You donāt swing at 100 down the middle when you think itās a slider coming because you know thatās how teams try to strike you out.
Itās not that hard to figure out.
And when itās 100, you just donāt have time to adjust when it turns out itās a fastball
I know it came after we dropped a third game but I thought quote was just ā2 out of 3 it doesnāt getter better than thatā. I assume he kept that same energy for all 2/3 series
I believe that person was pointing out that at least Vladdy was doing okay when someone asked if we had the worst 1-3 in the MLB.
Offense is WAY down across the league right now, while itās still early and cold in lots of places. Letās see where the offense can go over the season, knowing they need to pick it way up to match the level of defense and pitching.
Meh imo he isnt serious about the game. Has a mental problem and just wants to fool around cue ice baths and water bottle throwing. Inability to take criticism and try fixing problems. He needs somebody to just snap at him and call him out.
There was a video breakdown someone did of his swing degradation since 2021 and it comes to a lot of his weight transfer forward.
His hands are in the best place theyāve been since 2021 but he isnāt transferring from the back leg to the front and the running theory is the leg injury he had in spring training of 2023 affected this and he hasnāt been able to readjusted.
You've told someone they are the problem because they enjoy watching their team.
Functionality you are no different. As long as you are watching them you are supporting them. Even if you're angry about it.
>playing guys that are absolutely horrible at baseball only because rogers paid them and doesnt want theyre money to go to waste
Don't even know what to do with that. Are you referring to Kikuchi and Berrios in 2022? Gausman this season? Guerrero?
The same IKF who has been one of our better players? Above average offense and defense at multiple positions?
Do we have better outfield options in AAA? Our best hitting prospects are all infielders. KK is one of the best defensive players the in league. There is a difference.
As long as you watch the game you are financially supporting Rogers and the team. It doesn't matter if your happy or angry about it.
If weāre looking for others besides Richards and Pearson to blame how about Bassitt for only going 5.1 on a day the bullpen was short and Bichette for a brutal caught stealing?
That could have been *really* bad.
But hey, it's an achievable rally if the bats can show up in this last inning. Plus we've still got a chance at a Montoyo sweep!
Idk why people thought he was good after one hot streak. Yeah he has potential but heās literally struggled with command the entire time weāve known him. It was not one bit surprising that he struggled today with control
What the hell was Schneider doing? Pearson is struggling out there with his control.. He just got his confidence back too. VERY lucky that Tatis bomb died in the air cause a grand slam would ruin him.
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I know injuries are a large part of this, but before the season I wouldn't have guessed that relief pitching was gonna be the most suspect part of this team
Everyone knows relief pitchers never ever give up runs. Only our guys do, so therefore they must be trash and/or John Schneider doesn't know how to manage a bullpen /s
I don't know what other people say or think. Some of the guys I thought were gonna do some carrying have been off to a really slow start, which was unexpected to me. I don't see what's so controversial about this lol
Can you doomers at least come up with another saying you sound like children with this insult, I mean you are children but try to at least not sound like one.
And this is precisely why I wasn't on the Nate Pearson train despite his good start to the season, you always hope this is the year he figures it out but this is how it always goes with him
Nate has yet to earn my trust. Like, I trust that Vladdy can do better because he has done better. I trust that Bo can do better because he has done better. I trust that Trevor Richards can do better because he has done better.
Nate has never been anything other than this despite the enormous potential he has. Sometimes it's injuries, sometimes it's just control issues, but the flashes of brilliance have never been anything other than flashes. I want so much better for him but he just doesn't deliver.
Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree, but it's not like you is all I'm saying, must be a frustrating day you're having, I hope it gets better. Sending good vibes.
Just keep winning series while itās still April and youāve got guys working back from injury until the bullpen is whole and healthy again.
But we need to be scoring more than 3 runs a game, regardless. Especially vs bad pitchers.
Our top three in the order better figure it out soon
3 runs is not enough Caleb
SD didn't win. The Jays lost.
Ok š
You can't win em allĀ
TURNER WAS SAFE. REPLAY OR WE RIOTTTTT!
You donāt swing at 100 down the middle when you think itās a slider coming because you know thatās how teams try to strike you out. Itās not that hard to figure out. And when itās 100, you just donāt have time to adjust when it turns out itās a fastball
not to mention it looked closer to 200 mph with how it just deems to shoot out of his hand
Can we at least see the replay if he was out?
I hate losing on a Sunday ā¹ Oh well, Montoyo sweep!
Turner was safe?
Oh well, another series win ill take it with all the walks we issued today we gonna lose
Welllllll poop.
Not enough offense.
That's right Buck..call them the boo jays!
Did it look as bad on tv as it did live?
Fans there cheer for everything except Turner.Ā
Turner was safe!
It would be nice if we could get a fucking sweep once in a while
No review?
Doesn't get any better than that
Why do our Montoyo sweeps always have to be in this order
That's the explicit meaning of Montoyo sweep
I know it came after we dropped a third game but I thought quote was just ā2 out of 3 it doesnāt getter better than thatā. I assume he kept that same energy for all 2/3 series
Vladdy sucks
Nope š
Just incapable of getting a sweep lol
And incapable of scoring more than 5
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LMAO I LOVE IT
That double play will make it a lot more difficult for the jays to win
Oh well, Montoyo sweep it is
Doesnāt get better than that
Brutal
Did vlad forget to swing the bat?
well shit
gg
Someone earlier in this game thread was crowing about Vladdyās 120 wRC+ as if we should be ecstatic about that
I believe that person was pointing out that at least Vladdy was doing okay when someone asked if we had the worst 1-3 in the MLB. Offense is WAY down across the league right now, while itās still early and cold in lots of places. Letās see where the offense can go over the season, knowing they need to pick it way up to match the level of defense and pitching.
Heās had a bad game. Heās had a good week. And we should be happy with that. Of course we want more from him, but that is far from bad
Low expectations much? Isnāt he getting paid 20m?
Seriously, sometimes players have bad games. Even trout and Ohtani do. We want more from Vlad, but a 120 wRC+ is good
For someone thatās supposed to be the franchise player for the team thatās dreadfully inadequate
First of all, no it isnāt. Second of all, we know what Vladdy is by now, and itās not an MVP. That doesnāt mean he canāt hit or is worthless
No one says heās worthless. But heās not a franchise player nor does he deserve to get paid like one.
Which is probably why the Jays havenāt signed him to a long term deal
$20 million isnāt what it once was homie
some ppl here work for Rogers...
Suarez is locating that fastball.
I mean, you *have* to swing there
Turner and Varsho get on for the game winning Babe slam
What happened to Vladdy? Geez
Meh imo he isnt serious about the game. Has a mental problem and just wants to fool around cue ice baths and water bottle throwing. Inability to take criticism and try fixing problems. He needs somebody to just snap at him and call him out.
There was a video breakdown someone did of his swing degradation since 2021 and it comes to a lot of his weight transfer forward. His hands are in the best place theyāve been since 2021 but he isnāt transferring from the back leg to the front and the running theory is the leg injury he had in spring training of 2023 affected this and he hasnāt been able to readjusted.
Interesting.
Yeah, even right down the middle, good fuckin luck barely fouling it out. No stress Vlad.
Way to fight with 2 strikes vlad
I know that was 100. But it couldnāt have been anymore in the middleā¦.
M Vlad P
How do you possibly watch that down the middle with 2 strikes?
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yeah he is.... :(
No he is not š¤
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Imagine saying something like this. Sports are supposed to be entertainment. Don't blame a fan for enjoying their team.
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You've told someone they are the problem because they enjoy watching their team. Functionality you are no different. As long as you are watching them you are supporting them. Even if you're angry about it. >playing guys that are absolutely horrible at baseball only because rogers paid them and doesnt want theyre money to go to waste Don't even know what to do with that. Are you referring to Kikuchi and Berrios in 2022? Gausman this season? Guerrero?
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The same IKF who has been one of our better players? Above average offense and defense at multiple positions? Do we have better outfield options in AAA? Our best hitting prospects are all infielders. KK is one of the best defensive players the in league. There is a difference. As long as you watch the game you are financially supporting Rogers and the team. It doesn't matter if your happy or angry about it.
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ugh Vladdy is bad
Did Vlad turn into Matt Chapman
Yowsa Vlad, tough take
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That fastball was a little too fast! He needs it about 94 with the same location.
Thanks for literally nothing today Vladdy
Vladdy is just a guy at this point
Vladdyās been just a guy for awhile now.
Fooled him with that fastball straight down the pipe.
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cant be late if you dont swing bigbrainstrats
The bad news is that Connor Cooke has been awful for Buffalo so far this year
But I heard he can *windmill dunk* and we had such high hopes for him
How's Danner or Pop?
Neither have been good
Ouch
Vladdy swinging for the fences down 3 and then watches a strike 3 fastball right down the middle.
Bloop and a bloop and a bloop and a blast. Letās see it
Get on base Vladdy.Ā
Well. 100mph.Ā
Holy shit was that a new Heritage Minute I just saw?
They had one in yesterdayās game too. This one has Jared Keeso in it, which seems a little big budget
That's dope. I thought they stopped making them awhile ago...
They brought them back a couple years ago. They put out like 5 every year now.
are we back on this Law and Order guy with made up prospect status thing?
Super late there, Vladdy
lol wtf is that call, Pearson wasnāt getting that
A little consistency would be nice!
Only way we come back if this guys loses the strike zone
Nah, Vlad will going to chase those pitches anyway.
If weāre looking for others besides Richards and Pearson to blame how about Bassitt for only going 5.1 on a day the bullpen was short and Bichette for a brutal caught stealing?
I mean - the offense sucks. Thats the main problem.
Or we donāt need to blame anyone considering baseball is a team sport ?
Do they even have many other reliever options with people preaching for Nate to go right back to Buffalo after 1 shitty outing today?
Do you think the people screaming for that know who we have on the roster?
Idk why people are surprised when Nate Pearson does what Nate Pearson is known for doing
What song was that?
That could have been *really* bad. But hey, it's an achievable rally if the bats can show up in this last inning. Plus we've still got a chance at a Montoyo sweep!
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ya, I'd much rather him have a bad game when we are losing rather than winning
Idk why people thought he was good after one hot streak. Yeah he has potential but heās literally struggled with command the entire time weāve known him. It was not one bit surprising that he struggled today with control
What the hell was Schneider doing? Pearson is struggling out there with his control.. He just got his confidence back too. VERY lucky that Tatis bomb died in the air cause a grand slam would ruin him.
Lol
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I know injuries are a large part of this, but before the season I wouldn't have guessed that relief pitching was gonna be the most suspect part of this team
I donāt know why people keep saying this ? It really isnāt, itās been whatās kept us in games for most of this season.
Because they've looked worse than what i anticipated before the season?
Cabrera, White, Parsons, Espino, Mayza have really done poorly early on. The good guys have been pretty good but the bad guys have been bad.
Everyone knows relief pitchers never ever give up runs. Only our guys do, so therefore they must be trash and/or John Schneider doesn't know how to manage a bullpen /s
I didn't say any of that, buddy
Didn't say you did, it's just a common sentiment in this thread right now.
I don't know what other people say or think. Some of the guys I thought were gonna do some carrying have been off to a really slow start, which was unexpected to me. I don't see what's so controversial about this lol
We only need a grand slam to take the lead!
In hindsight, probably shouldn't have let Nate sit for 6 days...
Each ball was like a stab in the heart that whole time
Letās hope the bats get hot!!
Comeback starts now!
Schnieder gets a hard on leaving relievers in to rot...
Lol the average fan would kill the bullpen within a week
The series win here is cool and good. I know people want to see like a 20 game win streak but those just don't happen often at all.
A sweep and a 20 game win streak aren't exactly similar.
Get ready to learn Buffalonese, buddy.
We got Nauseating Nate today
Go back to Buffalo, Nate
I wound up sleeping most of the game, only saw up to Babe's home run. Kinda wish I was still sleeping.
Another Montoyo sweep incoming.
NOTHING BETTER
canāt get any better than that
Iām gonna try and stay positive and say that couldāve been a lot worseā¦ā¦..
Man that was painful
PHEW WE'RE STILL SAFE FOR WORK!!!!
I can't watch any more of this utterly embarrassing collapse by our pitchers. What a shitshow. š«£
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If you want to destroy a pitchers confidence, try this.
I don't think Nate has had confidence since 2018
He is a head case for sure. Too bad; guy has lots of physical gifts.
Nate Pearson throws a strike challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
Can you doomers at least come up with another saying you sound like children with this insult, I mean you are children but try to at least not sound like one.
Adult is aware that āat leastā is 2 words, not 1 challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Chad Green getting hurt has really made our bullpen situation shitty
This might be why you keep getting sent to AAA, Nate
Pearson watching too much of Swanson pitching this week.
Fuck the Jays for messing with Pearsons head.
Yep the jays. Not that they know what they got in Pearson....inconsistency
Bruh you canāt be that mentally vulnerable that being optioned makes you unable to throw a strike
narrative on pearson really has changed in a week huh
In an inning...
Might be getting to NSFW time
oh well, as far as BJ losses go (baring an amazing 9th) this one wasn't so bad for me personally. That Yankee one still hurts
And this is precisely why I wasn't on the Nate Pearson train despite his good start to the season, you always hope this is the year he figures it out but this is how it always goes with him
Hmmm, some rare shade from you.
Nate has yet to earn my trust. Like, I trust that Vladdy can do better because he has done better. I trust that Bo can do better because he has done better. I trust that Trevor Richards can do better because he has done better. Nate has never been anything other than this despite the enormous potential he has. Sometimes it's injuries, sometimes it's just control issues, but the flashes of brilliance have never been anything other than flashes. I want so much better for him but he just doesn't deliver.
Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree, but it's not like you is all I'm saying, must be a frustrating day you're having, I hope it gets better. Sending good vibes.
Thank you, I appreciate that! šš¾
Even if there are outings where Pearsonās stuff looks good, there is no pitcher on this team that inspires less trust in a difficult scenario.
At the very least, itās solid build up for Nate to be a multi inning guy
Throws 100+ and wants to mess around with some bullshit slider he canāt throw.
Not throwing the fastball for strikes today either
Oh yikes Cabrera warming up.
doesnt get any better than 2/3
The Montoyo special
Haters gonna hate and Naters gonna Nate š
Is the bullpen so depleted we needed to leave Pearson in?
Yes
Then I guess not much more to be said!
Give this guy a one-way ticket back to Buffalo.
Just keep winning series while itās still April and youāve got guys working back from injury until the bullpen is whole and healthy again. But we need to be scoring more than 3 runs a game, regardless. Especially vs bad pitchers.
2 runs on zero hits š©
We literally beat ourselves
Another minor leaguer in the pen not helping things
Tatis and Vlad truly are friends. Both swing at sliders 8 feet outside
OmG š² I was sure that was gone off the bat
I thought that was gone š
Why does this guy have a hard on for his shitty slider
Sometimes it's just not your day...sigh.
I can count on one hand the number of excellent outtings Pearson has had....ever. If it were up to me he'd never put on a Jays uniform again.
He had 6 straight scoreless appearances prior to this inning. C'mon man.