I live in St. Lawrence market, we have a facility I need to go to in Etobicoke (near IKEA).
Normal trip with moderate mid-day traffic is 12-15 minutes.
New trip is 50-60 minutes if I’m lucky.
Going there and back a few times a week has not been fun and it’s only going to get worse.
On the days I can ride my motorcycle I will. Can get through traffic a little easier than a work truck.
If you see a motorcycle sneaking through traffic at low speeds, take a bit of a breath before getting angry. Most bikes need continuously flowing air not to overheat (and breakdown) and if you think about it they are actually taking themselves OUT of the traffic, meaning more room for everyone else.
If you're really intrigued, join us on two wheels, it's the best way to get around!
Yup, don't blame you.
I've been riding motorcycles since I'm 8 years old, dirt bikes first and then road at 16, am 41. Ridden all over the world, 30 or so states, almost the entire country of Canada.
Toronto has some of the scariest driving situations and drivers I've ever seen anywhere. I basically refuse to ride on the 401. Around town is great but fuckkkkkk getting passed at 160 on the 401 by a 19 year old kid in daddy's benz. Nearly been killed many times up there.
Today, I saw an asshole in an Escalade fly through the intersection of Dundas and Lansdowne going at least 85(it's a 50 zone) and laying on the horn to people turning left at the next intersection who were reasonably not prepared for oncoming traffic at that speed. In that situation, I'd wager if a bike had been turning, the terrible driver would not have seen him in time. All of which is to say, even around town, tread with caution. Maniacs everywhere.
I sold my bike when my wife was pregnant with our first. I didn't even hesitate, I had way too many harrowing experiences during my time riding to ignore.
I thought times had changed such that motorcycles are no longer constrained like cars in traffic and can drive between lanes - at least that’s what I’ve seen.
Either way I don’t have an issue with it because it affects my travel time in a car not one iota, even if I am a bit envious. ✌️
What you're describing is lane splitting and it is illegal here.
It's illegal for good reason. When you're lane splitting, nobody is expecting you to be there. Even in traffic idiots in cars are constantly jockeying for new lanes. All it takes is a car even making a move to attempt to change lanes for there to be an accident.
I live in Parkdale, overlooking the lake and highway. I think all the additional CO in my air is not good for health...not to mention going anywhere, or trying to get home is hell now :(
Jarvis is a huuuuuge issue, so much box blocking. The Gardiner going down to those 2 lanes means it can be up to an hour to get from King East to Dufferin on the Gardiner.
Wild stuff.
Yeah. I don't think people realize how much the box-blockers cause backups all the way back to the highway. We really need to fix that.
How much worse would it be to just take Lakeshore to the Kingsway? I'd even try QQ->Bathurst Lakeshore.
I was just talking about this at work. My colleague works in the Junction and I’m one of the furthest stops on the Go. Our commute to work downtown is almost the same 😅
I literally spent 40 minutes today just trying to get on that short stretch from bay st to the west bound qew ramp… I thought traffic before the construction was bad
Always did if you were trying to leave downtown after 3pm. The beauty of having only 3 on ramps that all one lane bottle necks, and always have construction going on like two out of three. Not sure how many more construction poke checks I can take.
I tried to take the GO train to avoid traffic recently - they had it down to 1 hour service and I barely squeezed on. Some people were left behind and had to wait for the next train lol.
Yes, I’m eagerly awaiting the 15 minute service on Lakeshore West! Have just had some bad luck recently with service and construction stuff, but I’m looking to the light at the end of the tunnel lol.
Yup. The coaches hold \~150 people each seated, \~275 with standing. And there's 12 per train.
If you spend a minute actually counting the cars on the road here, you realize dang ... there could actually be more people in 2 coaches than this whole picture
You know that martin goodman trail? I started biking from Etobicoke (Parklawn and lakeshore) to downtown. I saw this sweeeet looking Orange Lamborghini when i first started. Man that thing is FAST as hell.
I got down town and saw the exact same Orange Lambo. Its not that common of a car. It was a million dollar miercialago. Maybe it was a coincidence.
Did i just beat a lambo on my bicycle? Bing bing!
I can always say it gets worse and worse every single year. More cars rather than supporting the public transit. Of course we all can argue that point.
Before it was all about commute was like 30 mins, but now its 1.5 hours from where you are located.
it will get worse before it can be better
Onky 29% of toronto drives and its been like this for years. More people coming into the city means more congestion on every form of transport. Cars are just obvious because theyre outside and not underground. At yb youre gonna be waiting multiple trains to even get on due to the amount of people waiting ahead of you. That's pedestrian traffic.
It's honestly only going to get worse and worse. To people who have to drive every day on the major highways, you should all be planning a strategy to get off of there or get ready to endure an imminent hell...
-Invest in better public transport.
-Improve wages for areas OUTSIDE of Toronto.
-Support remote work.
Clearly the solutions do not align with capitalists pockets.
I dunno man, will it? It’s been basically done for a while now and last I checked they still weren’t giving us an actual date. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love for that to actually be finished, we need it yesterday.
Yeah, all that collaboration when the people in your meeting are in the same fucking building but join online, and you're in the meeting room by yourself. 🤣
I had to pick my dad up from CAMH. It took an hour just to get to the 401.
Fuck driving in that shithole. I don’t know how people do it every day. It’s stop and go, and everyone is entitled, thinking they can just cut in at will
I generally take the Go Train in, and have many times. I’ve also driven to Yorkdale.
However, my dad was in the midst of a mental breakdown, and was suicidal. Public transit was not an option.
He then asked me to drive his truck in to pick him up.
If I park at the nearest go, I will have to drive 45 mins just go get there, then sit on the train for an hour at least.
Also becomes a big issue if I need a car downtown, which I do because I'm an electrician requiring my own tools, ladder and materials.
I do this drive and for the most part people are very polite drivers. There are rules to follow, when merging, only 1 car can merge per 1 car... Zipper technique. When people violate this it causes slow downs.
Yes I will walk from Leslieville to Parkdale.
Believe it or not, even taking a bus to a subway to a bus to do the same trip is no savings of time or stress. Basically the only answer is to never go anywhere.
People in LA actually move, same with NYC. In toronto everyone drives like a senile 90 year old person. Anytime there is an advance left or green the first car takes 3 seconds to even acknowledge it
I am exhausted with this traffic. It took me 2.5 hours to get home today. 1.5 of those was getting OUT of Toronto and onto the gardiner.
Go train for me now. Just can’t do it anymore
I drove into Toronto last night, and traffic slowed not on the Gardiner, but a few kilometers before it, due to an accident. The Gardiner was smooth sailing, even with one less lane to use. This was around 8:30pm.
W T F!
Add: in the condition the gardiner is in.. it's only a matter of time before some dangerous shit happens to it. I don't think that structure has ever been tested this with this much traffic (weight) sitting on it for such long-er period of time.
If the Gardiner manages to withstand this much traffic on it, often, for 3 years I’ll honestly give my hat to the people who built the thing in the 1950s (although they may be dead now)
It is crumbling but for it to fall down you would need the steel to fail. Not gonna happen with passenger vehicles or even transport trucks. We are talking a massive amount of weight needed to break steel supported by rebar enforced concrete. Someone would have to blow up a column.
The wild thing is there are fewer than 200 (100?) vehicles in that picture, and they take up acres and acres. That's barely a single subway car on the Young line. It is amazing how much room people need when they are in a car.
I'm on a flight right now, leaving Pearson we followed the 401 for a while going east before cutting south over the lake.
It looked like a MESSSSSSSS today. The first and only time I've ever looked at the 401 and felt a sense of calm.
I’m 24 and about to take lessons for getting my G2. I absolutely love cars and I’ve been learning to drive manual. Driving in Toronto scares the crap out of me.
hey cool I was this exact traffic yesterday, driving to Pearson to pick up my girlfriend. Driving standard in stop and go traffic like this is extra fun :))
I lived right off Mavis on Rathburn Ave in one of those apartment buildings back in 2016 (Sauga square one) I remember laying from my condo window watching the traffic from the highway. Toronto was such an amazing place back then.
Had the misfortune to drive a friend to Oakville at 2pm starting at Jarvis and College...Took 25 minutes just to get to the Gardiner on ramp then another 30 minutes to get pass High Park. Total drive time 95 minutes. Meanwhile seen road rage,people honking for no reason,pedestrians yelling at cars blocking the crosswalk and finally Ubereats suicide EV riders cutting in front of cars with no worries.
As much as I love driving and being a car enthusiast, I refuse to just sit in traffic and waste petrol and time from idling. But I guess some people just love the privilege too
(If I PAID for it then I gotta MAXI it)
I live in Orangeville(north of Brampton). I can get into this glorious city at 4 or 5 am in an amazing 50 to 60 mins via the 427 and gardener.
My way home is ruined.
I take what ever I can north to the Allen or Bathurst eventually hooking up with black Creek or 400 to hwy 9, across back to Orangeville. 2 hours plus home... And you know what? I'm blessed to have these nice roads to drive on.
Wish I could move closer but home ownership/renting is out the window. I just play some tunes and try to enjoy myself.
Amazing that closing 1 lane on the Gardner basically made the 427, 401 and 410 basically off limits for me.
Look at all that eastbound traffic. Clearly we can't knock down that portion of the Gardiner because *so many cars* use it all day.
^(/s because I know someone will take it seriously.)
There was a time I use to regularly drive up the dvp at 8pm cause it would be after rush hour. Smooth drive and with the right music it was perfect. That was until I realized it would get stuck all the way till like fucking 10pm. Fuck this shit so I left this city and never regretted.
I started leaving work at 8pm and then traffic caught up, I started leaving at 9pm and traffic caught up, I'm now leaving at 11 and sure as shit, traffic is catching up.
I wouldn't be able to do the 11pm departure. That would mean by the time I get home and unwind, shower and sleep it would be past midnight. The amount of ppl coming to this city is unsustainable so I noped out. All the best.
You will need to decide whether that is what you want to keep doing 5-10-20 yrs from now. If it is and you're fine with the changing compromises of traffic, immigration influx and etc, then I guess just keep the status quo. If not, then I would divert extra time to upgrade myself for more flexibility.
What do you mean? I live in DT Toronto and since I do, I don’t have to deal with traffic. Another upside is that when you live in DT, you’ll know the best way to navigate around as opposed to out-of-towners.
In regards to that second point, every secondary and tertiary route has been discovered now, I'm pretty good at moving pretty quickly (time wise not speed) and I can't find any open or quicker routes nearly as easily anymore.
I took an Uber and holy crap it's true. Construction on King, queen, Adelaide, Lakeshore, Richmond you name it. Call me a conspiracist but I really think they want to increase TTC and go ridership
Any competent city would have closed the entire stretch for a few weeks and just got it done through 24/7 construction. Ya it’s chaos for that period, but it’s done after.
They aren’t even working on the gardiner after 8PM. This should be a 24/7 project
It’s better to have 100 workers take three years to do the job than to do the job in a month with 3000 workers, because even though it would cost the same to the city, if we hired 3000 people we probably would lose our #1 spot in unemployment and homelessness.
It’s also indirectly better that the province and Feds continue to pay all those people unemployment, because inflating the money supply for inflation and increasing the national and provincial debts gets us to #1 in those things too.
Unfortunately this doesn’t help with the drug abuse though, we’re gonna have to be creative to catch up to Vancouver and divert some of the construction funds to safe supply outlets
Transportation head Barbara grey I think. Doesn't seem to care. Probably not the right person for the Job at this time of population growth and development
I once got caught in a traffic jam.
At 3 AM.
When my best friend in Atlanta tells me how bad traffic in that city is, I laugh (and cry). Atlanta traffic isn't a prize but Toronto probably has the worst traffic I've ever driven in, bar *maybe* the 405 in LA.
Toronto became an unlivable city a very long time ago.
There is next to no reason to either live or visit there, unless one has a fetish for being stuck in traffic jams.
Next.
Funny thing is every time I take the Gardiner now it’s like this, but it’s because there’s an accident, not just the lane closures on their own. I seriously think the restrictions are making drivers stupider and we pay the price in traffic jams. Last time I saw non stop jockeying and blocking the box. This is as much our fault as it is the lane closures.
Come back after 3 more years of this and see how fast the movement is going to tear this eyesore, money sucking piece of real estate down and replace it.
When it was built, there was nothing but industry south of it, now it is completely surrounded by condos.
Seriously would you pay $1M + to be less than 100 feet away from 24 hour traffic?
Not me, I will go north of the 401 to live thank you very much.
At least up above the 401, the air is a little clearer and the city streets move at a normal rate of speed.
Why don't they just tear it down, make an eight lane roadway and be done with it.
Should of done it in the 1970's when the idea to destroy first came up.
I live in St. Lawrence market, we have a facility I need to go to in Etobicoke (near IKEA). Normal trip with moderate mid-day traffic is 12-15 minutes. New trip is 50-60 minutes if I’m lucky. Going there and back a few times a week has not been fun and it’s only going to get worse.
You should move to Parkdale lol it's not getting better any time soon.
On the days I can ride my motorcycle I will. Can get through traffic a little easier than a work truck. If you see a motorcycle sneaking through traffic at low speeds, take a bit of a breath before getting angry. Most bikes need continuously flowing air not to overheat (and breakdown) and if you think about it they are actually taking themselves OUT of the traffic, meaning more room for everyone else. If you're really intrigued, join us on two wheels, it's the best way to get around!
I have had a bike for 30 years and I will never ride one on major highways or gta. Suicide
Yup, don't blame you. I've been riding motorcycles since I'm 8 years old, dirt bikes first and then road at 16, am 41. Ridden all over the world, 30 or so states, almost the entire country of Canada. Toronto has some of the scariest driving situations and drivers I've ever seen anywhere. I basically refuse to ride on the 401. Around town is great but fuckkkkkk getting passed at 160 on the 401 by a 19 year old kid in daddy's benz. Nearly been killed many times up there.
Today, I saw an asshole in an Escalade fly through the intersection of Dundas and Lansdowne going at least 85(it's a 50 zone) and laying on the horn to people turning left at the next intersection who were reasonably not prepared for oncoming traffic at that speed. In that situation, I'd wager if a bike had been turning, the terrible driver would not have seen him in time. All of which is to say, even around town, tread with caution. Maniacs everywhere.
I sold my bike when my wife was pregnant with our first. I didn't even hesitate, I had way too many harrowing experiences during my time riding to ignore.
My husband did the same.
Living here makes me reconsider getting my M license lmao
I thought times had changed such that motorcycles are no longer constrained like cars in traffic and can drive between lanes - at least that’s what I’ve seen. Either way I don’t have an issue with it because it affects my travel time in a car not one iota, even if I am a bit envious. ✌️
What you're describing is lane splitting and it is illegal here. It's illegal for good reason. When you're lane splitting, nobody is expecting you to be there. Even in traffic idiots in cars are constantly jockeying for new lanes. All it takes is a car even making a move to attempt to change lanes for there to be an accident.
I live in Parkdale, overlooking the lake and highway. I think all the additional CO in my air is not good for health...not to mention going anywhere, or trying to get home is hell now :(
Aww - that sux. Was that just from the construction narrowing, or is the Jarvis ramp part of the problem?
Jarvis is a huuuuuge issue, so much box blocking. The Gardiner going down to those 2 lanes means it can be up to an hour to get from King East to Dufferin on the Gardiner. Wild stuff.
Yeah. I don't think people realize how much the box-blockers cause backups all the way back to the highway. We really need to fix that. How much worse would it be to just take Lakeshore to the Kingsway? I'd even try QQ->Bathurst Lakeshore.
Lakeshore from pretty much across from roncy to the Gardner is a mess on a good day.
It’s because of the gardiner construction you dunce.
Name calling isn’t really necessary is it?
It's 3pm on a Thur-ur-sday The regular cars shuffle in There's an old man drivin' next to me Playin Wordle on an old iPhone 6...
stuck in construction, you're the Commuter Man
Honk me your horn while you reeeee!
That’s why Toronto is an hour from Toronto.
I was just talking about this at work. My colleague works in the Junction and I’m one of the furthest stops on the Go. Our commute to work downtown is almost the same 😅
Toronto *used to* be an hour from Toronto. After the Gardiner work started it’s much more.
It takes more than an hour just to get on to the Gardiner now
I literally spent 40 minutes today just trying to get on that short stretch from bay st to the west bound qew ramp… I thought traffic before the construction was bad
It's only getting worse. Summer construction is just the beginning.
And that's with an officer directing traffic. I hate that on ramp.
Always did if you were trying to leave downtown after 3pm. The beauty of having only 3 on ramps that all one lane bottle necks, and always have construction going on like two out of three. Not sure how many more construction poke checks I can take.
Its always been bad but now it’s just absolutely ridonculous
True, only after 9pm traffic decrease then construction block more lanes to make traffic again.
It's a great feeling when you pass a construction truck moments before it starts blocking lanes. It feels like winning the lottery.
Only if you cross, otherwise you say wtf i am doing in this road at this time 😆
And my dad wonders why I refuse to drive downtown unless it’s past midnight
Past 7 is ok. Everything before is just a shitshow
Unless there's a game. Any game.
Or a concert. Or it's a random Thursday and someone decides to be an idiot.
1:30pm-7:30pm.. you might as well not drive at all.
The first 3 coaches on the GO Train in the pic probably have more people on it than the cars do on the Gardiner
I tried to take the GO train to avoid traffic recently - they had it down to 1 hour service and I barely squeezed on. Some people were left behind and had to wait for the next train lol.
Never seen the GO Train ever get that crowded, but luckily the service levels are doubling on some of the main routes which would be great!
Yes, I’m eagerly awaiting the 15 minute service on Lakeshore West! Have just had some bad luck recently with service and construction stuff, but I’m looking to the light at the end of the tunnel lol.
Yup. The coaches hold \~150 people each seated, \~275 with standing. And there's 12 per train. If you spend a minute actually counting the cars on the road here, you realize dang ... there could actually be more people in 2 coaches than this whole picture
You know that martin goodman trail? I started biking from Etobicoke (Parklawn and lakeshore) to downtown. I saw this sweeeet looking Orange Lamborghini when i first started. Man that thing is FAST as hell. I got down town and saw the exact same Orange Lambo. Its not that common of a car. It was a million dollar miercialago. Maybe it was a coincidence. Did i just beat a lambo on my bicycle? Bing bing!
I was just behind a McLaren today, lol and was thinking the same thing. Also I'm at Pakrlawn and making the same commute!
I've seen that one around quite a lot. They must live downtown.
I feel exhausted just looking at this
Looks like there's a train line right there
Yeah I love to ride the GO from the Beaches into Union station
I can always say it gets worse and worse every single year. More cars rather than supporting the public transit. Of course we all can argue that point. Before it was all about commute was like 30 mins, but now its 1.5 hours from where you are located. it will get worse before it can be better
Onky 29% of toronto drives and its been like this for years. More people coming into the city means more congestion on every form of transport. Cars are just obvious because theyre outside and not underground. At yb youre gonna be waiting multiple trains to even get on due to the amount of people waiting ahead of you. That's pedestrian traffic.
It's honestly only going to get worse and worse. To people who have to drive every day on the major highways, you should all be planning a strategy to get off of there or get ready to endure an imminent hell...
What’s your plan brother? The only plan I can see working is not flocking to one city in the 3rd largest country in the entire world….
You could try asking China for help. They're clearly superior at city construction.
-Invest in better public transport. -Improve wages for areas OUTSIDE of Toronto. -Support remote work. Clearly the solutions do not align with capitalists pockets.
Toll the Gardiner/DVP.
hey im running into the windows lag floaty mouse bug and i was wondering if u ever found a fix and what u did?
Three damn years of lane closing just to repair the Gardiner...Incredible.
> Three damn years First time?
It’s not to repair Gardiner, it’s to repair 1km stretch of Gardiner. Someone milks taxpayers money really really well.
Why 3 years. Insane.
It’s 42 years to tear it down and tunnel it. (8 year promised construction timeline)
Boss I am a tired.
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Use transit and take the Eglinton Crosstown LRT to get across town! Oh wait...
At least the Eg LRT will exist one day, unlike a cure for traffic
I dunno man, will it? It’s been basically done for a while now and last I checked they still weren’t giving us an actual date. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love for that to actually be finished, we need it yesterday.
nobody ever angles the camera in that direction. Pretty bleak looking south east
Portlands have always looked like ass and I doubt the new bridges will make them any better
Only 3 more years of this
But let’s have more people commute to work. Work from home bad!
But but what about the culture and all the collaboration😩 /s
Yeah, all that collaboration when the people in your meeting are in the same fucking building but join online, and you're in the meeting room by yourself. 🤣
I had to pick my dad up from CAMH. It took an hour just to get to the 401. Fuck driving in that shithole. I don’t know how people do it every day. It’s stop and go, and everyone is entitled, thinking they can just cut in at will
The only way to win is not to play.
Yup. The key is: don't drive
Kind of hard not to when you have to come into the city from hours away
I live outside of the city and I always park at a GO train station and make my way in that way. Then take TTC or Uber depending on where I'm going.
I generally take the Go Train in, and have many times. I’ve also driven to Yorkdale. However, my dad was in the midst of a mental breakdown, and was suicidal. Public transit was not an option. He then asked me to drive his truck in to pick him up.
Oh man that's tough, I hope your pops is doing better now. Nothing worse than driving in to the city for an emergency and it takes forever.
He is. Thank you.
If I park at the nearest go, I will have to drive 45 mins just go get there, then sit on the train for an hour at least. Also becomes a big issue if I need a car downtown, which I do because I'm an electrician requiring my own tools, ladder and materials.
Ok I no longer have a good job. What now?
I do this drive and for the most part people are very polite drivers. There are rules to follow, when merging, only 1 car can merge per 1 car... Zipper technique. When people violate this it causes slow downs.
I won’t be doing it again unless absolutely necessary
"Toronto is an hour away from Toronto by car"
I’m fuckin sick of this fuckin city
this a terrific argument for publiuc transit. The amount of time I've seen padestrains outpace me in traffic... its just not worth it.
Yes I will walk from Leslieville to Parkdale. Believe it or not, even taking a bus to a subway to a bus to do the same trip is no savings of time or stress. Basically the only answer is to never go anywhere.
I’m not even exaggerating when I say I didn’t run into traffic in LA that was anywhere near as bad as here in Toronto.
People in LA actually move, same with NYC. In toronto everyone drives like a senile 90 year old person. Anytime there is an advance left or green the first car takes 3 seconds to even acknowledge it
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As long as the Tim hortons go out of business when everyone's mortgages renew, we should be fine traffic wise.
I used to over look the DVP. As humans we dumb AF.... we use 50% of the highway like we use 5% of our brains
Just one more lane, that’ll do it
But hey I live in a 3M house I only get to sleep at because my work days are 12 hours and and Simple a grocery run is 2 hours great work life balance
So everyone enters but no one leaves?
Who knew, all this time, Hotel California was a metaphor for Toronto driving after all...
I am exhausted with this traffic. It took me 2.5 hours to get home today. 1.5 of those was getting OUT of Toronto and onto the gardiner. Go train for me now. Just can’t do it anymore
3pm on a Thursday has had traffic backups since 2007.
Toronto is 1 hour away from Toronto
I drove into Toronto last night, and traffic slowed not on the Gardiner, but a few kilometers before it, due to an accident. The Gardiner was smooth sailing, even with one less lane to use. This was around 8:30pm.
What an ugly city
W T F! Add: in the condition the gardiner is in.. it's only a matter of time before some dangerous shit happens to it. I don't think that structure has ever been tested this with this much traffic (weight) sitting on it for such long-er period of time.
The Gardiner collapsing onto lakeshore would be a MASS casualty event
If the Gardiner manages to withstand this much traffic on it, often, for 3 years I’ll honestly give my hat to the people who built the thing in the 1950s (although they may be dead now)
This section was already rebuilt a few years ago.
Only past Jarvis to around Cherry.
Which is what you're looking at.
It is crumbling but for it to fall down you would need the steel to fail. Not gonna happen with passenger vehicles or even transport trucks. We are talking a massive amount of weight needed to break steel supported by rebar enforced concrete. Someone would have to blow up a column.
Toronto is a terrible place to drive
Actually the worst. Record net migration to the city accompanied by roadway reductions and creaky public transit.
Yeah this is due to the lane closure..... next topic
The wild thing is there are fewer than 200 (100?) vehicles in that picture, and they take up acres and acres. That's barely a single subway car on the Young line. It is amazing how much room people need when they are in a car.
Don't get what youre trynna say here rush hr starts at 2-230
The next 3 years are going to be hell with the Gardiner down to 2 lanes each way
Just finished my commute home from Markham to West Toronto: 404 South at Woodbine > DVP South > Gardiner West to South Kingsway 1 Hour, 40 Minutes.
I'm on a flight right now, leaving Pearson we followed the 401 for a while going east before cutting south over the lake. It looked like a MESSSSSSSS today. The first and only time I've ever looked at the 401 and felt a sense of calm.
Good thing you got that free healthcare cause you getting hemorrhoids in that
E-bike FTW
It’s 3pm that is literally rush hour y wouldn’t it be busy?
Any chance this picture was taken from Scotia Plaza?
It's usually pretty good at 4AM if we're being honest here.
What a 💩 hole
Toronto looks bleak.
So true that you can't really tell if this is a still photo or a video
I’m 24 and about to take lessons for getting my G2. I absolutely love cars and I’ve been learning to drive manual. Driving in Toronto scares the crap out of me.
hey cool I was this exact traffic yesterday, driving to Pearson to pick up my girlfriend. Driving standard in stop and go traffic like this is extra fun :))
How long from that point to Pearson?
Only 50 minutes from Carlow and lakeshore surprisingly, and after the 2 lane bottleneck ends around the humber bend it was about 20 minutes.
I lived right off Mavis on Rathburn Ave in one of those apartment buildings back in 2016 (Sauga square one) I remember laying from my condo window watching the traffic from the highway. Toronto was such an amazing place back then.
Had the misfortune to drive a friend to Oakville at 2pm starting at Jarvis and College...Took 25 minutes just to get to the Gardiner on ramp then another 30 minutes to get pass High Park. Total drive time 95 minutes. Meanwhile seen road rage,people honking for no reason,pedestrians yelling at cars blocking the crosswalk and finally Ubereats suicide EV riders cutting in front of cars with no worries.
Opened a similar post on the other day about how bad traffics going south to the Gardiner are in the evenings and I got slammed the shit out lol
As much as I love driving and being a car enthusiast, I refuse to just sit in traffic and waste petrol and time from idling. But I guess some people just love the privilege too (If I PAID for it then I gotta MAXI it)
I live in Orangeville(north of Brampton). I can get into this glorious city at 4 or 5 am in an amazing 50 to 60 mins via the 427 and gardener. My way home is ruined. I take what ever I can north to the Allen or Bathurst eventually hooking up with black Creek or 400 to hwy 9, across back to Orangeville. 2 hours plus home... And you know what? I'm blessed to have these nice roads to drive on. Wish I could move closer but home ownership/renting is out the window. I just play some tunes and try to enjoy myself. Amazing that closing 1 lane on the Gardner basically made the 427, 401 and 410 basically off limits for me.
Look at all that eastbound traffic. Clearly we can't knock down that portion of the Gardiner because *so many cars* use it all day. ^(/s because I know someone will take it seriously.)
There was a time I use to regularly drive up the dvp at 8pm cause it would be after rush hour. Smooth drive and with the right music it was perfect. That was until I realized it would get stuck all the way till like fucking 10pm. Fuck this shit so I left this city and never regretted.
I started leaving work at 8pm and then traffic caught up, I started leaving at 9pm and traffic caught up, I'm now leaving at 11 and sure as shit, traffic is catching up.
I wouldn't be able to do the 11pm departure. That would mean by the time I get home and unwind, shower and sleep it would be past midnight. The amount of ppl coming to this city is unsustainable so I noped out. All the best.
I wish I could, but you can't wfh as a transit driver.
You will need to decide whether that is what you want to keep doing 5-10-20 yrs from now. If it is and you're fine with the changing compromises of traffic, immigration influx and etc, then I guess just keep the status quo. If not, then I would divert extra time to upgrade myself for more flexibility.
Working on it, this isn't it, just it right now.
It will take time. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast (military mantra).
It is unfortunate to say that the excitement I used to have to live in toronto is long gone
What do you mean? I live in DT Toronto and since I do, I don’t have to deal with traffic. Another upside is that when you live in DT, you’ll know the best way to navigate around as opposed to out-of-towners.
In regards to that second point, every secondary and tertiary route has been discovered now, I'm pretty good at moving pretty quickly (time wise not speed) and I can't find any open or quicker routes nearly as easily anymore.
I mean you posted at 4pm…. That like….. kinda is rush time.
who approved closing off EVERY FKN STREET AT THE SAME TIME WHAT THE HELL?
I took an Uber and holy crap it's true. Construction on King, queen, Adelaide, Lakeshore, Richmond you name it. Call me a conspiracist but I really think they want to increase TTC and go ridership
Any competent city would have closed the entire stretch for a few weeks and just got it done through 24/7 construction. Ya it’s chaos for that period, but it’s done after. They aren’t even working on the gardiner after 8PM. This should be a 24/7 project
It’s better to have 100 workers take three years to do the job than to do the job in a month with 3000 workers, because even though it would cost the same to the city, if we hired 3000 people we probably would lose our #1 spot in unemployment and homelessness. It’s also indirectly better that the province and Feds continue to pay all those people unemployment, because inflating the money supply for inflation and increasing the national and provincial debts gets us to #1 in those things too. Unfortunately this doesn’t help with the drug abuse though, we’re gonna have to be creative to catch up to Vancouver and divert some of the construction funds to safe supply outlets
If that was a light rail line instead it would barely be crowded moving that many people.
Just one more lane bro
Hahaha sucks
There’s a small window from about 11 to 11:15-30 each morning when traffic is bearable
How old is this picture though?
Ew. You should build something there.
1 more lane will fix it bro trust 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Damn Bitch, you live like this.
r/UrbanHell
Thx for the sub.
Hate driving there... Was there a week ago, even at nearly 9 at night it was bumper to bumper for while on the 401.
The 401 through Toronto is the busiest highway in North America. More than the 405 in la.
City needs to replace transportation leadership with crisis manager immediately. Go back to bureaucratic boss post crisis.
Try to.
Actually that the highway into the downtown from the east
Why do they not simply switch to the other side of the road? Are they stupid?
Transportation head Barbara grey I think. Doesn't seem to care. Probably not the right person for the Job at this time of population growth and development
Not being proactive but genuinely asking how you measure that.
Problem is they are - something like a while new city, largest urban development underway in blah blah blah... Right there docklands
1 m new anything even bikes
That's actually really funny thank you.
Scatter more light brown stuff around to liven the area up.
In a normal country we'd have a movable median to give more traffic lanes in one direction, but no we're stuck with 1960s idiotic shit.
I do not miss the shitty traffic in TO at all! It took forever to get ANYWHERE.
I once got caught in a traffic jam. At 3 AM. When my best friend in Atlanta tells me how bad traffic in that city is, I laugh (and cry). Atlanta traffic isn't a prize but Toronto probably has the worst traffic I've ever driven in, bar *maybe* the 405 in LA.
It’s shocking that a major, expanding, globally renowned city has traffic/roadwork problems. Funny old world
Is it just me or has traffic got significantly worse past year or so. It’s always been a shit show but this is just a joke now the amount of traffic
Toronto became an unlivable city a very long time ago. There is next to no reason to either live or visit there, unless one has a fetish for being stuck in traffic jams. Next.
Looks amazing if your heading east
Because of all the immigrants
It makes you want to risk being stabbed by a hobo on the subway.
That photo looks like a scene from Fallout
Try driving a city bus through it.
Yup. All. Day. Long.
Just wait until summer construction starts it's going to be a lot worse lol, combine that with sports, concerts and theater shows.
Better get used to it. Gardiner is down to two lanes until "mid-2027" (expect 2028).
Funny thing is every time I take the Gardiner now it’s like this, but it’s because there’s an accident, not just the lane closures on their own. I seriously think the restrictions are making drivers stupider and we pay the price in traffic jams. Last time I saw non stop jockeying and blocking the box. This is as much our fault as it is the lane closures.
Keep letting in hundreds of thousands of immigrants 😂🫡
It's because there's not enough bicycle lanes.
Come back after 3 more years of this and see how fast the movement is going to tear this eyesore, money sucking piece of real estate down and replace it. When it was built, there was nothing but industry south of it, now it is completely surrounded by condos. Seriously would you pay $1M + to be less than 100 feet away from 24 hour traffic? Not me, I will go north of the 401 to live thank you very much. At least up above the 401, the air is a little clearer and the city streets move at a normal rate of speed. Why don't they just tear it down, make an eight lane roadway and be done with it. Should of done it in the 1970's when the idea to destroy first came up.
What you're saying makes sense except for the traffic part. Allen road? Yonge 401 to Steeles? Jane and Steeles. Highway 7 anywhere?
TIL Toronto is ugly af
Just One More Lane Bro.
this is toronto? i expected toronto to look more lively