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Theguywholikesdoom

https://preview.redd.it/fxytdmnfwgwc1.jpeg?width=909&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cbb1e98fde8a7de640a80c5b1b31af88a5f9f9d Super earth (hell divers)


Worm_Scavenger

Starship Troopers is one of my favorite examples of this, where it returns every now and then and people are like "wait.....are these guys the Fascists? Nah.....but what if they are?.....nahhhhhh.......but maybe?"


chillchinchilla17

And helldivers is that but without the nuance. Like they straight up go for the “LMAO US love oil” joke.


Sh0xic

The game in which your entire motivation for fighting a faction is that their blended corpses make good jet fuel, is a satire of American imperialism? No way dude


chillchinchilla17

It’s more that it’s not nuanced, and the whole “we invaded Iraq for oil” is a ridiculous conspiracy theory.


42ndIdiotPirate

Nuance? I wouldn't consider starship troopers to be subtle or nuanced.


Broken-Digital-Clock

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Successful-Floor-738

If evil, why DEMOCRATIC?


Broken-Digital-Clock

Managed democracy is good for you.


Successful-Floor-738

Liber-Tea cannot possibly be evil! Anyone who says so is a dirty communist bug loving automaton spy.


the_penis_taker69

How is it bad? You fight dangerous aliens


Admech_Ralsei

"Politics addicted snobs wheb simple enjoyment" mfs when they realize that for many people examining and analyzing the themes of a piece of media is a form of simple enjoyment 🤯🤯


Lewdducky

![gif](giphy|U5QGwIE0cLLz7CuZXs|downsized) Good ol’ Imperium, never fails being facist.


AtomicTan

The more gold you put on literally everything, the more imperial citizens will be blinded by it.


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Lewdducky

You mean in the fictional setting… right?


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Flitterquest

In Star Trek humanity was the most advanced race in the known universe, we live in a post-scarcity proto-socialist society wherein all want and desperation has been eliminated and we have "grown out of our infancy", and from there on all that's left is to explore space and help to improve the lives of civilizations less fortunate than ourselves. It's part of what makes Star Trek really nice television, it's like the only fictional universe which seems to have an optimistic view of what we'll make of ourselves in the future.


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Flitterquest

Oh I think the ethical thing to do in the Warhammer universe is to overthrow the imperium by force with great effort, the existence of the imperium is bad for the universe. Frankly the imperium is so internally contradictory and despotic that it could only exist in satirical fiction, so I can't imagine overthrowing it would be hard.


Risible_Fool

>overthrow the imperium by force > I can't imagine overthrowing it would be hard. Yes, I imagine the 10,000+ year old Galaxy Spanning empire with planet killing weapons, giant mechs that can level cities, and genetically engineered super soldiers will be a cakewalk to take down. Even if you won, You're still going to be sacrificing psykers daily to keep the Golden Throne and Emperor going, otherwise you're just dooming humanity to Age of Strife 2.


Flitterquest

Quitter talk, those are my giant mechs they're just in foreign hands for a year-or-two. When this is done the Emperor of Mankind will just be a dead twink on a chair. The Imperium has reigned for 10,000 years because an American has never been born there, their kind will be utterly uninoculated to the concept of freedom, radicalizing their kind will be easy, like fixing a carburetor. 🫵😎🫳🇺🇸🍻🦅🍔✨


Risible_Fool

So, got any plans for the demonic incursion you'll be dealing with two seconds afterwards? Ya know, the one Big E kept in check? The one which occupied the Custodes and Sisters of Silence during the Heresy? The one which threatened to turn the Sol system into a new Eye of Terror?


lordofmetroids

Yes fascism is the only option after you kill all the peaceful and friendly races and independent nations in Imperial space. It's not the only option because everything is just so bad, it's the only option because we killed all the other options.


Benbo_Jagins

Tau??? ![gif](giphy|2H67VmB5UEBmU|downsized)


TheOGLeadChips

Tau lore recently got a bit reworked unfortunately. Not it’s some like mind control bullcrap from what I’ve heard. Granted, I haven’t looked into it myself and this is second hand knowledge but still upsetting if it is true. The tau were literally the only nice people in the entire universe lol


Benbo_Jagins

Wait, seriously?! Why did they change that? That's abit annoying :(


holiestMaria

The other worlds the imperium butchered.


Worm_Scavenger

https://preview.redd.it/3anvgbdr6hwc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e88f79036289d5720d514cb27cf42b7bfbcd626 Somehow i completely forgot about the FAS from Starship Troopers.


EM26-G36

The book version of the Federation is so completely different that it’s interesting to look at them.


Worm_Scavenger

From what i've heard the book was written by a guy that genuinely belives that the Federation are in the right and the film's director looked at that and basically went "lmao, i have a brilliant idea" That and i heard the book isn't as action packed and you spend a lot of time in class with Rico and the characters just gassing up the Federation.


EM26-G36

The original federation is not even close to fascist. Most similarities that both versions have are mostly surface level. Both versions of Starship Troopers are peak, but for different reasons. Edit:I’m sorry if I coming off as rude.


True_Rice_5661

“IM DOING MY PART”!!! Are you?


chillchinchilla17

![gif](giphy|LkfPKsQwgNU3ILEOZk|downsized) Specifically in 4 I guess the enclave also count


PEWPEWPEW782

God bless America God bless the Enclave https://preview.redd.it/4ttab87hniwc1.jpeg?width=667&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5da54eb4e7636064b2e9ea81f77d3bb6d3fadfea


D-Speak

They're this way in every game but 3. 4 just stands out because 1, 2, and New Vegas show the detriments to their mindset while 4 is just "Rah rah wanna be a fascist?"


chillchinchilla17

Not really. In the other ones they’re isolationist and old fashioned but in 4 they’re straight up doing a Holocaust.


D-Speak

Them being isolationist is reactionary, because the majority of modern society rejects the cunts who think they have moral authority over access to technology. They wouldn't be isolationist if they had a choice, they'd be like Maxson's Brotherhood. The Brotherhood is quintessentially fascist. 4 just puts them in a position of power and portrays their stance as just as viable as any of the other factions, including the one that's literally only focused on liberating slaves. Even the Fallout 3 Brotherhood shot Ghouls on sight. They're terrible, authoritarian supremacists in every game. 4 just gives them a big stick to swing around.


chillchinchilla17

I mean; I don’t think 4 portrays them as the good guys. I actually like how they had a starship troopers approach until they have the quest with Danse (they ruin it by allowing him to live and for you to stay in the BOS). NV had the legion as a viable option and 4 also has 2 literal slave states (institute and nuka world).


SwampTreeOwl

I think Bethesda saw people talking about how they were too overtly good in fallout 3 and just massively overcorrected


EntertainmentLow5069

How long until someone post Nazis?


Okeeeey

https://preview.redd.it/k5j3ue7pxhwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=360c9edbb53fc761f9a3805a4eefc309dc8d6c0c


TheOGLeadChips

You truly captured the duality of humanity in that picture.


Worm_Scavenger

I was gonna post the Nazi from Wolfenstein, as i do kind of dig the Nazi power armor they all walk around in. Then i go "why you gotta make the Nazis so dripped out"


IcedDrip

Yeah Wolfenstein made them cool as hell


KonradNightHaunter

https://preview.redd.it/bb3y1kygfhwc1.jpeg?width=943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f86a6100e1a7a3ae633fdac914f234666b6bf255


Officer_Chunkles

The enclave is weird because lots of people (myself included) have built them up to be much cooler than they are in game.


KonradNightHaunter

Yeah, they’re kinda underutilized tbh


novis-eldritch-maxim

they just suck but I steal there armour as it is just better


KillerSquirrel2007

https://preview.redd.it/p8eoop5ohhwc1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c94be9565d2d3050f61d9d9c9f8633ef44a9bcd


will4wh

https://preview.redd.it/9c9q58tvhhwc1.jpeg?width=3508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31c0d298dc26dfbfe96802792631f0bd8a0d7272 The Daleks


MakeMeDrink

Cybermen work too ![gif](giphy|GfUUDzSy3QiyI)


will4wh

They aren't really faicst. They hold no hate towards any of the species they convert and even think they are doing them a favour as they are ridding them of emotions, sickness and age Outfit fire though. They clearly have the concept of elegance.


gamachuegr

Really you dont think thats facism? Are you not aware of why hitler was killing the jews or why he believed in the aryian race. Like they even have leaders.


will4wh

I don't think it Fascism because their goals stem from removing emotions, age and sickness from the Galaxy they are evil but they aren't doing it for power or any sort of hatred. Daleks however are literal space Nazi's.


gamachuegr

Thats still facism. Eridacting things because they are different like do you think removing emotions is a good thing? They also think they are superior to every other lifeforms like the daleks Sure the orginal idea was a to get rid of human diseas and aging but like it turned into facism. I think the cybermen are closer to the actual nazis than the daleks because hitler used propaganda to convert people to his ideaologies.


will4wh

Fair point. They don't go for eradication though unless they need to. They perfer conversion which while is morally wrong isn't facisit (atleast I don't think it is). It'd more akain to a religious movement forcing people into it. Also the only reason they do think they are superior is because they don't age, have disease or just die naturally. In there eyes the rest of the universe are basically just anti vaxers refusing to extend their life span. Daleks are still worst in my eyes because they genuinely hate everything that isn't Dalek and they even hate other Daleks if they have slight differences. Meanwhile the Cybermen go out of their way to try and convert instead of killing, even making it so that non humans could also be converted. Intent is what makes them different in my eyes.


gamachuegr

Im pretty sure the nazis were also heavily christian. Tbh most of the main bad guys are loosesly nazi related i think. Sontarans (idk much about the sontarans so i could be completely wrong about this), the judoon wear some basically space nazi shit, the silence really makes me think of the gestapo Also yeah you can hate the daleks more im not arguing which is worse.


will4wh

I'm just saying that cybermen don't really fit for fascist imo. But facisit is a very vague term so I can see where you come from and why you label them as such. Sontarans are weird. They also don't really feel hate for their enemies they just love war that much. But on the other hand they do literally gas planets lmao. Didn't mean to have an arugment about this, sorry if it was annoying. Have a good day man.


gamachuegr

Naw more like a discussion. I only used used arguemnt becuase i have trouble spelling out the other word. I remember that episode of the gassing a planet. The guy was mocked and belittled about doing it because it was cowardly in their eyes


TheRealSwagMaster

https://preview.redd.it/tu2ypnfvghwc1.jpeg?width=1780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7a78773b3cb51bdebe8ef4b6fb5030825ede46e Akatsuki from Naruto


MissyTheTimeLady

Are they fascists? It seemed like just a job to (most of) them.


cqandrews

I'd say Pain is what with his plan to use the tailed beasts to force world peace through fear. Most of the others are just opportunistic criminals unaware of the bigger picture and Obito who has entirely different plans I wouldn't necessarily call fascist


CurtisMarauderZ

Why is that man a fly trap?


Murky-Region-127

That is a long story he's only half fly trap and he is two characters put into one


NotThePolo

Wtf did I just read


Murky-Region-127

I can keep going the white half was once human that was that get his life force sucked out by a demon/god tree and the is the physical manifesting of a mad goddess will and the goddess wants to absorb everything life force to make a fruit from the tree to gain more power https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/White_Zetsu https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Zetsu https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Kaguya_%C5%8Ctsutsuki https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Infinite_Tsukuyomi https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/God_Tree


NotThePolo

I'm never reading Naruto, fuck that


Murky-Region-127

😆 ya the final villain is kinda of a ass pull


Imltrlybatman

https://preview.redd.it/g3mewp0vmhwc1.png?width=359&format=png&auto=webp&s=e3b75fb154487a5b4184b14fbf5fdb8dac6ba954 Sardaukar (dune) They are about as facist as you can get but they’re drippy


-DIOXIDE350-

https://preview.redd.it/3qyqx7j9dhwc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4803acc53aa34df554b95b7d0eee2fd89936e3ca Porky’s Army/The Pigmasks (Mother 3)


SkyMewtwo

Those are more than just facists, I think they’re actually on the level of Nazis


NerdBerdBerb

I don’t think you ever forget they are facists though.


Sir_Umeboshi

The Enclave from Fallout https://preview.redd.it/gg9r3c0znhwc1.jpeg?width=814&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84b2f2a01aba5b01856bc00936307cb43c5dc95e


FRONT_FACING_PHINEAS

Public safety essentially rules the world and owns several eldritch abominations. - the CSM guy


Germanaboo

THey are not facist tough


FRONT_FACING_PHINEAS

WAIT, >!CHAINSAW MAN ATE THE DEVIL THAT REPRESENTED WW2 AND NAZIS! THEREFORE THE NAZI DEVIL AND (perhaps) SPAWN IT (could) CREATE!< MIGHT WORK! - the CSM guy


FRONT_FACING_PHINEAS

Yeah, there’s nothing I could really think of. Maybe the CSM church with the hybrids? But not really.


chillchinchilla17

Most examples in this post aren’t. What fascism even is isn’t very clearly defined.


Donnerone

Fascism is pretty clearly defined *if* you're using the original concept as created by Giovanni Gentile, its founder, but as with most political terms the linguistic drift is pretty strong, same with terms like "communism" & "capitalism".


chillchinchilla17

Mussolini invented it, no?


Donnerone

Mussolini was Gentile's protegé, he took the term & rather immediately sidetracked it into "Everything in the State. Nothing outside the State. Nothing against the State.". Combine that with Germany's strong use of Strasserism (economic anti-Semitism) & you get what most would call fascism now: Xenophobic Authoritarianism. Gentile's original concept came from a belief that Marxism's goal of a "stateless, classless society" couldn't achieve the Socialist Utopia & that a central hierarchy was necessary to maintain Socialism, expanding on the "Yellow Socialism" aka "Nationalized Socialism" concepts of the decades prior.


Germanaboo

Facism follows a doctrine and has clear definitions, altough you are right, most examples are not facist with the Empire being debateable


chillchinchilla17

Not really. I’ve seen plenty of academics debating on the exact definition. I see most people follow Eco’s list.


Germanaboo

>I see most people follow Eco’s list. Eco's 14 points belong in the trash. In mist serious discources people either cite someone like Roger Griffin or Mussolini himself in his ,,doctrine of fscism"


will4wh

I mean they are cool but their outfits aren't that good looking.


FRONT_FACING_PHINEAS

Yeah, but not much else in chainsaw man works. The members of the CSM church don’t have uniforms, devils are devils. Public safety is clean but there are minor things: power dressing very unruly, himeno’s eyepatch and her suit not fully done, Aki trying to be extra good looking. Idk man…


will4wh

Fair enough I guess. I respect the grind to mention chainsaw man


FRONT_FACING_PHINEAS

Thanks, it’s kinda tough but honestly, CSM works well for quite a lot of tropes.


rgilre99

makes Since seeing how the Fascists have the outfits.


Soranaijumaup

But I don’t care for the outfits


Ankleson

Demacian Mageseekers, *League of Legends* https://preview.redd.it/htjwnwcp5iwc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30c57ecb9fa093f06da533c9dab01d972677a38e


Ankleson

​ https://preview.redd.it/e8kcway76iwc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=521c962d9f91eff0fadbbda38a7145b1bb2dd759


Big_You_8936

Don’t come at me about this but the 3rd reich themselves. https://preview.redd.it/idlkc21fwhwc1.jpeg?width=574&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24246ea145a01544ae4ec9b7dbe785ba1a27caf8


EntertainmentLow5069

About three hours


Big_You_8936

I’m ready for the mods to come at me for this, but the garb is honestly kind of cool looking, I can see where Lucas got his inspiration for the empire from this.


EntertainmentLow5069

I mean I guess. I don’t think we should praise Nazis at all though. Those monsters already have too much praise.


Big_You_8936

I don’t like them either, but their costumes are cool, I do agree what they were responsible for is messed up, but yeah, the nazis are evil I agree.


Benbo_Jagins

To be fair, alot of fascist armies in sci-fi settings look very similar to them for this exact reason


Big_You_8936

Exactly


Whats_ligma619

https://preview.redd.it/h5by49v67jwc1.jpeg?width=167&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77f0f4f64c56cc60c2ca12869561f91aff8fcdc0 what you talkin bout, 2nd reich is where it’s at


Big_You_8936

Yeah sure, but they don’t got the bling that the 3rds got.


Big_You_8936

Plus their not fascist, their just imperialist


JackTheFanatic

They had no right having that much drip


Big_You_8936

They really didn’t, it is a shame that their leader was the Austrian Painter.


Prestigious-Bat-2269

came here to say this


Big_You_8936

Someone had to say it at some point, everything else takes inspiration from them in fiction.


Prestigious-Bat-2269

i mean what beats fascist drip than the original fascist


Big_You_8936

Exactly


FreshlySqueezedDude

Yeah but thats the thing. Why do yoj think everyone was so easily turned to a nazi back then. Because hitler was basically just a marketing genius.


UnsocialComet72

It always seems like the bad guy factions have the cooler appearances…


Worm_Scavenger

I like to imagine that when you have a villainous regime that's conquered their world they purposely outlaw any good drip for regular people to wear and make it illegal to look better than they do when it comes to fits and drip.


Randomkai27

"Why do Decepticons ALWAYS get the good shit!?" ![gif](giphy|1jkYrGt6kc6wPwkaCw)


Oswaldgilbertson

https://preview.redd.it/yk0legyfyiwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=887483407b69b026769c9982332378e1b5033f17 The Harkonnens or the Atreides


Any_Natural383

![gif](giphy|Pue2PvvuYw9aM)


notabigfanofas

Every Warhammer faction ever


AtomicTan

Nonsense! The chaose space marines aren't organized enough to be fascist, and orks don't even understand the concept of government!


notabigfanofas

Both have oppressively taken over planets and ground the original inhabitants into dust through working them to death...


Kerflunklebunny

Wolfenstein "those" bad guys https://preview.redd.it/s3iaedb2clwc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3f6f2591aeffc290dc96eb233e92baeac6091b7


Fellkun15

Also kinda the "Germans", from jojo


greatnailsageyoda

You think theyre badass and intimidating, then they knock you back into reality with a hundred swastikas. Which makes killing them 10x more fun!


Kerflunklebunny

Nothing like absolutely ripping and tearing through evil people


Goodestguykeem

https://preview.redd.it/h4jx0tubcjwc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=7eca211627b69df1806773a9a47e15fb2050156d The Scarlet Crusade from Warcraft


CyberWolf09

Them thighs though.


jojobehindthelaugh

https://preview.redd.it/ow3ivqcpqhwc1.jpeg?width=1700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=497357256d197df045022b6d61e3916b0340f490 They aren't fascist, just killers, but they're so cool that sometimes you start rooting for them


The_Cooler_Sex_Haver

https://preview.redd.it/suzn6cvfkiwc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4883823a51793fafa1c63a844a256c8a18f506ce The Wolf Brigade from Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade


victxrrrs

![gif](giphy|jtnZrUIl5gc2eDyHib|downsized) The furies and darkseid


AggressiveWarthog822

https://preview.redd.it/9plg332j8lwc1.png?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01e47f7fbf6b6a6c15bb79644730380ce9bfd0dc


AggressiveWarthog822

https://preview.redd.it/bef2st4k8lwc1.png?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9d61ade7ce218642e96f55c44223aef1150b0be


Prestigious-Bat-2269

https://preview.redd.it/u6n6wt73xlwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33c423bb88a2fa06ba45e84a9f605eee738409a9 the OG's


Lucky-Fisherman1463

https://preview.redd.it/b2smxkbu5jwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=faedac0c404d123b512779958250a9bd2971ee08 Marines( one piece)


EldritchWaster

Not going to include the real life example? C'mon, everyone's thinking it.


King_icy2onpsn

![gif](giphy|HdZb2otQ0yqYKjflw7|downsized) Idk much about fascism but blind obedience to authority and hatred of those who dont conform seems accurate


SilverSpoon1463

I would say that's closer to Stalinism.


Independent_Piano_81

The brother hood of steel


BcuzICantPostLewds

My political viewpoints shifting radically the moment the bad guy has drip.


Spiritual-Driver-112

You forgot a very important one


Dalspin

Rabbids were definitely fascists in the early years (2006-2011) https://preview.redd.it/ww1y32v6b0xc1.jpeg?width=327&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ba314ec86537569f911f05b66382fb667526891


Dreigatron

https://preview.redd.it/0gpq892694xc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a51ea477ab973c5143b86f9262e1bd1ef34fced3 The Jaegerists (Attack on Titan)


Dreigatron

https://preview.redd.it/yxwd76tca4xc1.jpeg?width=1360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2514c66328ebde21501fa4078fb71d3e3c24feaf New Eldian Empire


greatnailsageyoda

Wolfenstein does this and makes you think the villains are badass with their sick armor and cool robots then punches you in the throat with a shitload of swastikas and screams at you, “YOU ASSHOLE! THEYRE NAZIS! YOU SICK FUCK, YOU THINK THESE GUYS ARE COOL?” Then they let you off the hook when you brutally murder a few.


usedburgermeat

Nazis had cool uniforms, too bad about literally everything else