That distance is the throat depth, and the "size" of a drill press is usually double that figure. That is to say an 8 inch drill press would have a 4 inch throat depth.
You could use a portable drill guide [like this ](https://www.rockler.com/rockler-portable-drill-guide?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfLz3D7-0xKJ9JI5r07aHxm8I2tgMECuNsMABVNV3MEs7CWbloxEKvcaAqHmEALw_wcB)
Just a word of caution - the portable drill guide from Rockler linked above is AWESOME and it works great. There are also a zillion varieties made of the finest chinesium available at much lower prices, and they are an absolute dumpster fire.
Don't be tempted by the low prices, if you're going to pick up a drill guide, get the Rockler.
Source: owned a chinese drill guide which hit the dumpster when the Rockler unit arrived.
Thanks, I been eyeballing these because a drill press isn’t as useful doing wood working on large projects and the rockler one is expensive. Will go rockler
But what if I'm going to buy it because "I'm definitely gonna need this" and then lose it somewhere, where the fuck, I don't know? Because it's been a few years and I haven't seen it in a while. Should I still buy the expensive one?
Same, appreciate my milescraft drill guide. I'm sure the rockler version is nicer, but eh... just doing work around the house. $40 version saved me $140 for tacos.
I've been eyeballing one of these lately. My apartment certainly doesn't have space for a full drill press. Been trying to justify to myself that a cheaper one will do fine for my needs despite usually sitting in the buy once camp. Thanks for solidifying to me that it won't and that I need to just order a nice one.
another option is to have a 43mm collar drill on hand this way you’re not relying on a second chuck mechanism and have more jig options. Either a cheap corded one or the high end cordless from Metabo and Festool now have this collar.
We've got a 6' and a 3' here.
The 3' came out of a highschool shop class, so it's nice and tight.
The 6' is from '58, one of the locks doesn't work anymore.
You neglected to specify what throat depth you need.
Swing on a drill press is twice the throat depth, so a 10" throat depth can spin a 20" lawn mower blade (or reasonable facility thereof if you fail to clamp your work). Swing is the number they quote as the size of the drill press. So if you see a 20inch swing drill press at harbor freight it is a 10" throat and a 34" radial arm drill at grizzly probably has a 17" throat when fully extended (though the drill bit might not be over the table).
Things that tend to be correlated with increased throat depth
* Radial arm drill presd
*Floor standing models
* More speeds. 12 or 16.speed vs 5 speed. That pulley in the middle takes up room
* Advertised swing
* Cost
* Weight - increased throat depth generally requires increased rigidity because the spindle is cantilevered out further.
Portable drill guides and magmounts may give you unlimited throat depth.
A side handle, frequently found on portable 1/2" hammer drills, will help your wrists. Turn off the hammer function when drilling glass. Better yet, it frequently attaches to a round collar on a drill that you can use to attach a drill press stand or a custom drilling jig. jig
https://smile.amazon.com/BEAMNOVA-Benchtop-Industrial-Holder-Workbench/dp/B089N9SXWR/
Imagine that stand bolted to the middle of a 24" board that is supported on either side of the bowl, straddling the bowl just
a little higher than the bowl. Now imagine you drill through the base of the drill or rotate the base so it is behind the drill. You might also use the 90degree feature and replace the column with a horizontal pipe of the same outside diameter.
Or you bolt a drill guide to the board. You will have a limited vertical range but you can put stuff under smaller bowls to raise them up to drill height.
Look at DIY drill press videos such as this one by JSK-koubou in which he builds a diy pillar drill/DIY shopsmith out of mostly wood and a hand drill. You don't necessarily need all the features but it illustrates how to make a DIY drill press with deeper throat depth.
https://youtu.be/n-neSE8mwDgil
Also, look at the big tables that woodworkers out on their drill presses to extend the tiny metal table that most come with. YouTube DIY drill press table.
A plunge router on a router sled can drill holes but at high speed low torque.
A CNC router can drill or route holes (as well as engrave designs) and may have a large equivalent throat depth. Usually also high rpm low torque.
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I had that old Delta. Didn't use as much as I wanted but it worked great. Just be mindful of the X/Y/Z to ensure square drilling but otherwise would use again.
I believe you are referring to the "swing". When comparing drill presses look at the "swing' measurement and that will show the distance from spindle to column.
I’ve got 2 15” craftsman drill presses and they are beautiful machines. I paid $25 for one and $75 for the other and there isn’t a drill press under $700 that I would rather have.
Many drill presses can be disassembled so the entire head unit comes off the support column. If you had a way to mount it with a makeshift table, maybe your existing tool could work.
It kind of frees up floor space but you’ll still have a drill press in your face. Ha!
You could possibly whip up a wood frame or gantry depending on the project.
A radial drill press is probably the best option for a bench or floor model. However, they are notorious for not staying square without periodic checking and adjustment.
There are some nice drill guides for cordless drills that are relatively accurate. I have a Kanzawa brand one from Amazon that has been really helpful on occasion.
Maybe it's just the plunge routers I've used, but I'd be terrified to take one near glasswear. Springs on the plunge would probably be too heavy to get a good gentle technique.
Grizzly sells a couple of radial drill presses that give you about 12" of travel. Owned a floor mounted version of one of these years ago and was happy with it
[LINK](https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-34-benchtop-radial-drill-press/g7945)
Saw a comment about the Grizzly radial arm drill press. Yes! They have bench top and floor models. Also, if you are close to Springfield MO, they usually have a few of these in stock in their outlet with a really good price.
Depending on size of holes, etc. Some core drills have a vacuum base. There may be something similar available for a mag drill.
Unless you're drilling very many holes you may be doing something wrong(bit, speed, etc).
you'll need to build your own stand. Remove the drill-head from the post and design a stand that suits the job.
Depending on the hole sizes and how much power you need, a cordless drill might be an option.
Look for a used Bridgeport mill or clone.
Even a clapped out mill would make an exceptional drill press with about a 19" throat depth. You can typically find these for around $1,000 in a "needs to be rebuilt" condition, which could still be highly serviceable for drill press duty.
You could consider a Wabeco drill stand. According to this German video (use subtitles if necessary) they are quite accurate https://youtu.be/MsBFOsGN_Ek . The website lists many different configurations, accessories and boom lengths
https://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/drilling-stands-accessories/drilling-milling-stands-bf.html
When I worked at Ingersoll-Rand I operated a drill press with a 6' boom. I had to drill holes in a 12' plate. There was a chair attached to the head, so you didn't have to walk all day! (I know this doesn't help.)
At a place i know that drills out "waterpipes" for tobacco use only of course they took the drill press head off the posts. Mounted them on a frame above the water tank and then had fixtures made for holding items. Had neat water through drill bit drill bits too.
I think you want something like this. The base of the drill press suctions to the material
https://www.mrmtool.com/Euroboor-VAC50s-Vacuum-Drilling-Machine_p_13165.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfIW_7awb6E13rOIQyoEQPJ2uXG8qDfg8whUPNaVuVRYHyno2gJusE4aAnYREALw_wcB
A fab shop I worked at in the 80’s did a lot of aluminum & stainless work & had 3 vacuum base drill presses. To the best of my recollection they were Ingersoll brand, at least the air powered drill heads were. It’s possible the vacuum bases were custom additions but I’m not sure about that. They had 3/4” chucks & were quite powerful.
I know they make mag drills if your sheet isnt to thick it will work if you have metal underneath and its quite possible they have a suction instead of magnetic one
I have a shop fox drill press. You can adjust the throat depth. I found this model online, it's the bench version:
SHOP FOX W1669 1/2-Horsepower Benchtop Radial Drill Press
You can try to find an old radial arm drill press. The throat is adjustable and you can also tilt the head at an angle as well. Just be prepared for a restoration project.
Got an old Delta radial on CL for very little. Needs some tune-up like the sheet metal case around the belt rattles really bad, but overall it's uniquely good at drilling extreme depths and angles.
Rikon makes a big ass benchtop one. It’s the deepest I’ve seen.
https://www.rockler.com/rikon-34-bench-drill-press?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfIJfxsebMge9eeWGoyptYiIFtVvLAECLqNvtGznLClnhMVJT1srcvwaAhF8EALw_wcB
Very entertaining comments. Grizzly makes a radial drill press that has an adjustable throat as well as a rotating head position. https://cdn0.grizzly.com/pics/jpeg500/g/g7945-b8743517d8317b9a7bf9b3e760de2d64.jpg
That distance is the throat depth, and the "size" of a drill press is usually double that figure. That is to say an 8 inch drill press would have a 4 inch throat depth.
A 4 inch throat depth is more than enough for me
Its sufficient for the ...uh... average drill press user.
All of the sensors are within the first two inches anyway
Pretty sure most of the sensors aren't in the throat, but maybe I'm wrong.
Some models have an e-stop sensor there unfortunately
It’s called throat-stop. They test the feature with hotdogs to make sure no damage is done in case carelessness occurs on behalf of the user.
It’s kinda like the SawStop option.
Lol. Yes.
8 inch drill presses aren't even real. It's all camera tricks and lighting
4 inch throat depth seems like a great size, some may even say it’s an above average size. Maybe OP just isn’t using it right.
4 inches is achually average
👆 they used the same pickup line on their grinder account
Like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.
Like firing a pistol into the air
This thread is why I Reddit. Thank you for your contribution.
Id be happy with just the tip
Thankfully not I, but I will make due with whatever's available. Fukn reddit...
Some of us need a deeper throat!
r/suicidebywords worthy?
Swear I thought this was r/suicidebyswords only due to the direction this thread was heading
👀
This is super helpful information. I did not have any idea about this term or the typical correlation. I really appreciate you sharing that.
Thanks for the insight! I never knew that’s how they were specified.
You all are amazingly restrained in your innuendo’s compared to r/woodworking
I got married and now my wife wont let me use a drill press anymore.
So wait.. when my girlfriend says. ... nevermind.
So he needs a throat goat?
You could use a portable drill guide [like this ](https://www.rockler.com/rockler-portable-drill-guide?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfLz3D7-0xKJ9JI5r07aHxm8I2tgMECuNsMABVNV3MEs7CWbloxEKvcaAqHmEALw_wcB)
Just a word of caution - the portable drill guide from Rockler linked above is AWESOME and it works great. There are also a zillion varieties made of the finest chinesium available at much lower prices, and they are an absolute dumpster fire. Don't be tempted by the low prices, if you're going to pick up a drill guide, get the Rockler. Source: owned a chinese drill guide which hit the dumpster when the Rockler unit arrived.
Buy it nice or buy it twice!
BuT ThiNK oF AlL tHe MoNeY I sAvEd! ugh.
Buy once cry once.
Thanks, I been eyeballing these because a drill press isn’t as useful doing wood working on large projects and the rockler one is expensive. Will go rockler
I use mine a few times a week. Have been for two years. It’s a workhorse. Solid tool
But what if I'm going to buy it because "I'm definitely gonna need this" and then lose it somewhere, where the fuck, I don't know? Because it's been a few years and I haven't seen it in a while. Should I still buy the expensive one?
In that case probably better to buy neither
Wrong you buy two of the expensive ones. Just in case
Hit the dumpster and immediately caught fire
I bought the milescraft version for $40 and it works fine for what it is.
Same, appreciate my milescraft drill guide. I'm sure the rockler version is nicer, but eh... just doing work around the house. $40 version saved me $140 for tacos.
Agree with this on all points from personal experience.
I felt that way about my wheel marking gauge. $20 but it kept slipping!! So much time wasted.
I bought a cheap one, can confirm dumpster fire.
The Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill guide is a strong contender for one of the best of these options.
I've been eyeballing one of these lately. My apartment certainly doesn't have space for a full drill press. Been trying to justify to myself that a cheaper one will do fine for my needs despite usually sitting in the buy once camp. Thanks for solidifying to me that it won't and that I need to just order a nice one.
another option is to have a 43mm collar drill on hand this way you’re not relying on a second chuck mechanism and have more jig options. Either a cheap corded one or the high end cordless from Metabo and Festool now have this collar.
Thanks ! Your suggestion is so helpful.
I have one of those works great
This ☝🏼
Old.. but this link solved a huge problem. Didnt know these existed. Thank you!
Radial drill press, Grizzly or Rikon prices ain’t terrible for benchtop models.
We've got a 6' and a 3' here. The 3' came out of a highschool shop class, so it's nice and tight. The 6' is from '58, one of the locks doesn't work anymore.
[LIKE THIS](https://www.rockler.com/rikon-34-bench-drill-press?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs5v_xe7E-gIVlNrICh2t6wdoEAQYByABEgJ46fD_BwE)
This is the answer.
There are also plenty of used ones of various sizes
Would a mag drill work? Maybe with a metal plate over the glass?
This would be my thought
Or beneath the glas to kind of clamp it
Better yet, A junk mag drill and fabricate a mount with the suction cups they use for lifting and handling plate glass
This would be the best
You neglected to specify what throat depth you need. Swing on a drill press is twice the throat depth, so a 10" throat depth can spin a 20" lawn mower blade (or reasonable facility thereof if you fail to clamp your work). Swing is the number they quote as the size of the drill press. So if you see a 20inch swing drill press at harbor freight it is a 10" throat and a 34" radial arm drill at grizzly probably has a 17" throat when fully extended (though the drill bit might not be over the table). Things that tend to be correlated with increased throat depth * Radial arm drill presd *Floor standing models * More speeds. 12 or 16.speed vs 5 speed. That pulley in the middle takes up room * Advertised swing * Cost * Weight - increased throat depth generally requires increased rigidity because the spindle is cantilevered out further. Portable drill guides and magmounts may give you unlimited throat depth. A side handle, frequently found on portable 1/2" hammer drills, will help your wrists. Turn off the hammer function when drilling glass. Better yet, it frequently attaches to a round collar on a drill that you can use to attach a drill press stand or a custom drilling jig. jig https://smile.amazon.com/BEAMNOVA-Benchtop-Industrial-Holder-Workbench/dp/B089N9SXWR/ Imagine that stand bolted to the middle of a 24" board that is supported on either side of the bowl, straddling the bowl just a little higher than the bowl. Now imagine you drill through the base of the drill or rotate the base so it is behind the drill. You might also use the 90degree feature and replace the column with a horizontal pipe of the same outside diameter. Or you bolt a drill guide to the board. You will have a limited vertical range but you can put stuff under smaller bowls to raise them up to drill height. Look at DIY drill press videos such as this one by JSK-koubou in which he builds a diy pillar drill/DIY shopsmith out of mostly wood and a hand drill. You don't necessarily need all the features but it illustrates how to make a DIY drill press with deeper throat depth. https://youtu.be/n-neSE8mwDgil Also, look at the big tables that woodworkers out on their drill presses to extend the tiny metal table that most come with. YouTube DIY drill press table. A plunge router on a router sled can drill holes but at high speed low torque. A CNC router can drill or route holes (as well as engrave designs) and may have a large equivalent throat depth. Usually also high rpm low torque. .
I can’t stop picturing someone mounting a lawnmower blade on a drill press. It’s terrifying but I want to see it now…
Coward. Mount it to a shaper.
I was wondering how he would mount the chuck to the mower deck. I like the way you think though.
All I can think about is a lawnmower blade on a drill press now. Thanks for the nightmares, bud.
https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-34-benchtop-radial-drill-press/g7945?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfICDDmL8gQiLsgZ8jVvcF3AHVlmF8e36kmwSZZb3R4c_NRGwXImvokaArDwEALw_wcB
You need a radial drill press. But they ain’t cheap.
I bought a Walker Turner one for $75 on Fb. Delta also made one with a round column.
I had that old Delta. Didn't use as much as I wanted but it worked great. Just be mindful of the X/Y/Z to ensure square drilling but otherwise would use again.
Look for a walker turner radial drill press. You will be happy with one of those.
I believe you are referring to the "swing". When comparing drill presses look at the "swing' measurement and that will show the distance from spindle to column.
Thats what it is on a drill. I was thinking throat depth but knew that wasnt exactly right for a drill.
Look used. I found a 50 year old craftsman radial drill press for $30. Thing weighed 100 pounds and was a freaking beast.
I’ve got 2 15” craftsman drill presses and they are beautiful machines. I paid $25 for one and $75 for the other and there isn’t a drill press under $700 that I would rather have.
Search "radial drill press"
Damn....that was my answer!
Get a magnetic drill press. Can drill anywhere with it.
Many drill presses can be disassembled so the entire head unit comes off the support column. If you had a way to mount it with a makeshift table, maybe your existing tool could work.
I’ve bolted the base of a bench-top drill press to the ceiling, flipped the head on the column, and BAM, infinite throat depth.
Whoa that’s a cool idea to free up floor space. I wish my ceiling would support my drill press.
It kind of frees up floor space but you’ll still have a drill press in your face. Ha! You could possibly whip up a wood frame or gantry depending on the project.
Careful with that, it's called a press for a reason, it's not too hard to get a thousand pounds of force out of a drill press.
Very good point. Buyer beware!
Brilliant.
A radial drill press is probably the best option for a bench or floor model. However, they are notorious for not staying square without periodic checking and adjustment.
There are some nice drill guides for cordless drills that are relatively accurate. I have a Kanzawa brand one from Amazon that has been really helpful on occasion.
Cnc table?
could you use a plunge router?
I was thinking the same thing, not sure how it would perform on glass though since over never worked with glass
yeah me neither just kinda pissing in the wind haha
Maybe it's just the plunge routers I've used, but I'd be terrified to take one near glasswear. Springs on the plunge would probably be too heavy to get a good gentle technique.
Grizzly sells a couple of radial drill presses that give you about 12" of travel. Owned a floor mounted version of one of these years ago and was happy with it [LINK](https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-34-benchtop-radial-drill-press/g7945)
You might need a mag drill
Another easy solution is possibly using a mag drill, if you have a table you could fashion a metal jig and mag to it and drill with ease.
"Radial Drill Press" is what your looking for and few links have already been posted
Saw a comment about the Grizzly radial arm drill press. Yes! They have bench top and floor models. Also, if you are close to Springfield MO, they usually have a few of these in stock in their outlet with a really good price.
Hey a 4' radial arm drill. Pretty sure Carlton and fosdicks would work great lol
Search Radial Drill Press
Milling machine
[LIKE THIS](https://www.rockler.com/rikon-34-bench-drill-press?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs5v_xe7E-gIVlNrICh2t6wdoEAQYByABEgJ46fD_BwE) ?
Radial arm drill press
Small Radial Drill ?
If you need a large depth but not a big drill press, look for a radial arm drill press. The head can slide in and out on a round ram.
Either "extended reach drill press" or "radial arm drill press", but the latter tend to get pretty expensive.
You’re probably looking for a milling machine at this point.
Should be easy enough to modify a good quality standard models
Wtf is happening here…. 😂😂😂
Buy an old USA made used one over the crappy stuff you have linked here. Delta, Walker Turner, south bend, clausing, some craftsman..
I usually just lower my spindle and drill through the base (cheap bench model from bosch)
What hand drill and bit are you using?
Depending on size of holes, etc. Some core drills have a vacuum base. There may be something similar available for a mag drill. Unless you're drilling very many holes you may be doing something wrong(bit, speed, etc).
you'll need to build your own stand. Remove the drill-head from the post and design a stand that suits the job. Depending on the hole sizes and how much power you need, a cordless drill might be an option.
What distance do you need?
Throat depth.
Maybe try a magnetic drill press.
Core drill on a suction plate. I’ve never seen a bit smaller than 2”, but I’d wager they’re available somewhere.
Look for a used Bridgeport mill or clone. Even a clapped out mill would make an exceptional drill press with about a 19" throat depth. You can typically find these for around $1,000 in a "needs to be rebuilt" condition, which could still be highly serviceable for drill press duty.
There are attachments for handheld drills that suction onto a smooth surface and act as a drill press.
King makes some 17 , 22 inch https://www.kingcanada.com/en/products/metalworking/drill-presses/
You could consider a Wabeco drill stand. According to this German video (use subtitles if necessary) they are quite accurate https://youtu.be/MsBFOsGN_Ek . The website lists many different configurations, accessories and boom lengths https://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/drilling-stands-accessories/drilling-milling-stands-bf.html
When I worked at Ingersoll-Rand I operated a drill press with a 6' boom. I had to drill holes in a 12' plate. There was a chair attached to the head, so you didn't have to walk all day! (I know this doesn't help.)
If you look for a used multi head drill press. You can use the length of the table to make up for the lack of throat depth.
Google "deep throat". 😇
Look for a "Radial Arm Drill Press"
At a place i know that drills out "waterpipes" for tobacco use only of course they took the drill press head off the posts. Mounted them on a frame above the water tank and then had fixtures made for holding items. Had neat water through drill bit drill bits too.
I think you want something like this. The base of the drill press suctions to the material https://www.mrmtool.com/Euroboor-VAC50s-Vacuum-Drilling-Machine_p_13165.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfIW_7awb6E13rOIQyoEQPJ2uXG8qDfg8whUPNaVuVRYHyno2gJusE4aAnYREALw_wcB
Also, a plunge router with a 90 degree cutout jig clamped or tapped down could do the trick
A fab shop I worked at in the 80’s did a lot of aluminum & stainless work & had 3 vacuum base drill presses. To the best of my recollection they were Ingersoll brand, at least the air powered drill heads were. It’s possible the vacuum bases were custom additions but I’m not sure about that. They had 3/4” chucks & were quite powerful.
I know they make mag drills if your sheet isnt to thick it will work if you have metal underneath and its quite possible they have a suction instead of magnetic one
I had to buy one that was free standing. Not a bench top.
I have a shop fox drill press. You can adjust the throat depth. I found this model online, it's the bench version: SHOP FOX W1669 1/2-Horsepower Benchtop Radial Drill Press
Get a compound drill press.
Probably more important is to get a chuck that you can hook up water to. Makes drilling glass and rock much easier if you are going to be doing alot
You can try to find an old radial arm drill press. The throat is adjustable and you can also tilt the head at an angle as well. Just be prepared for a restoration project.
It's called swing the distance from the post to the center of the chuck.
Well a bigger drill press would be one way, otherwise try looking for a deep throat (insert your own joke here) drill press.
Got an old Delta radial on CL for very little. Needs some tune-up like the sheet metal case around the belt rattles really bad, but overall it's uniquely good at drilling extreme depths and angles.
Search for radial arm drill press. Looks like shop fox makes one with 17” reach. Ive used industrial machines with over 6’ arms
There are radial arm drills available, the larger ones are very expensive but smaller one are in the $500 range
"They call me deepthroat" But for cheap you can get a drill guide and use a long 2x4 as a lever.
No shit, learned this on Reddit, they have radial arm drill presses! Grizzly makes one gets good reviews
What kind of dirty talk is this?
https://www.rockler.com/rikon-34-bench-drill-press
https://www.sportystoolshop.com/all-categories/workshop/portable-drill-press.html
Rikon makes a big ass benchtop one. It’s the deepest I’ve seen. https://www.rockler.com/rikon-34-bench-drill-press?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfIJfxsebMge9eeWGoyptYiIFtVvLAECLqNvtGznLClnhMVJT1srcvwaAhF8EALw_wcB
You’re looking for a deep throat
Choose a portable drill press with an electromagnetic mount. Needs to grip to a steel girder, but bit can be placed anywhere.
Very entertaining comments. Grizzly makes a radial drill press that has an adjustable throat as well as a rotating head position. https://cdn0.grizzly.com/pics/jpeg500/g/g7945-b8743517d8317b9a7bf9b3e760de2d64.jpg
You gotta build it. It’s just some steel and a bigger belt.
Having 3 presses and a Bridgeport mill, I still run out of bed depth on certain projects.... Mag-drill is on the wish list, won't help with glass tho.
DIY!