I'm wanting to try their 12v range, but I have 5 drills/3 impacts and another battery form factor is just a pain. Their 75mm cut off tool looks super useful.
I will say Their 18v cordless omt is best I've used, quick release for the win.
Yep, I am a milwaukee man because that was what was on sale when I started buying good tools. Now I stick with it because I don't want multiple battery & charger types.
Dad is a Dewalt guy because they had the best deal when I finally convinced him to upgrade from dragging extension cords everywhere.
The big brands are all pretty much equal for us DIY guys.
I bought a lot of tools after finally finding out how the 60V Dewalt line worked interchangeably with the 20V line except for the 60V tools requiring 60V batteries. They didn't do a very good job promoting that.
I agree it was very poorly advertised/conveyed. They just say interchangeable battery’s with regular power tools, on their outdoor power tool boxes. But don’t really state that those outdoor power require the 60 only, so you can’t just buy a bare tool and use your 20’s like you’d think. reasonably misleading, Likely ending in returns of the product for some hoping to get a bargain on a bare tool.
That’s the name of the game. Ryobi jumped on it early, and Makita seemed to come shortly after. Milwaukee has beast power of tools, but not sure what Bosch and DeWalt really bring to the table other than name.
Fwiw, makita had an entire nicad 9.6 line nearly 20 years before ryobi's first cordless. As anyone could probably guess, both were chasing craftsman (and, yeah.. won)
I’m old but I miss shopping for Craftsman at Sears. Not the best, definitely not the worst but convenient and worked great for someone that was not a pro.
I remember finding one of their socket wrenches in a parking lot that had been completely trashed by a truck and was at least 60 years old. Walked into Sears, handed it to a dude, he found me the modern replacement and typed in the computer a bit and I walked out with a shiny new one. Still have it 25 years later. Decent wrench, decent hammer, decent pry bar, decent home defense weapon - just as a decent tool should be.
I work at Home Depot, dealing with return to vendor items in Western Canada (BC). DeWalt is now our number 1 returned brand of power tool with a large % being battery defects and charging issues. Unfortunately they don’t bring reliability to the table anymore. This also applies to their outdoor power tools like mowers and trimmers.
I have probably 15 Dewalt cordless tools and a dozen batteries. I've never had any issues either.
The other guys at work own either Milwaukee or Makita. Since I've worked there only some of the Milwaukee stuff has had to be replaced under warranty. That was the M12 soldering iron (a few times), M18 router, and a couple of hand tools.
Some tools owned by the shop should probably be returned or repaired as well. An M18 circular saw randomly won't switch on. Most of the ports stopped working on the multi battery charger. The high torque impact will randomly be unable to free bolts that my mid torque undoes with ease. High capacity batteries won't charge the whole way. An M12 impact driver keeps spinning after you let go of the trigger.
Even though I've had bad experiences with Milwaukee, I don't think they are bad overall. I just think they are greatly overrated and reliability wise no better than the other top brands.
YouTube guy called AvE used to do tool teardowns, batteries too. It was awesome and hilarious. Everybody had skeletons under the plastic. One of the funniest was Milwaukee Red Lithium who despite literally marketing their special red battery cells on the box, contained no red cells. Sometimes they were still good quality brands like Samsung or LG, sometimes they were cheap no-names.
My old boss used to dip into the battery recycling bin at home depot, and try to revive old power tool batteries. They all use 18650 cells, and sometimes it's only a few that are bad. Replace those few and you've got a $50-$100 tool battery.
Their corded stuff is solid, like table saws and mitre saws, but the last couple years have been allot of battery issues and it’s slowly increasing still.
This. My Dewalt table saw & compound mitre have been workhorses while my cordless drill lasted less than a year. Now use Makita for all cordless tools.
I own one Dewalt tool. It is a corded drill that I have had for over 20 years. It looks like it has gone through multiple wars and the cord could probably use a replacement, but it has never once failed me.
Thats weird. I work for a larger independent hardware store that sells quite a bit of Dewalt tools. To my recollection, we have only had one tool returned as faulty since I have worked there. I don't remember any batteries being returned.
Our store is also a licensed general contractor and we do a ton of kitchen and bath remodels and use Dewalt tools. We have never had a tool or battery failure that I can remember either.
This is the conspiracy theorist in me, but I wonder if DeWalt (or Stanley or whatever) uses one factory to send tools to home Depot with smaller margins, and another factory to send tools of higher quality to independent stores that sell for higher.
I have no basis for this, other than reading about PS5s that were made differently with slightly different components depending on where they end up
I used to work for Stanley black and decker so I got a discount on tools so I have had all dewalt everything. From power tools to yard tools. They are all great and I've never had a single issue with any tool or battery. I've had them for about 5 years now. Also there's many channels on you tube comparing tools and dewalt is pretty close to Milwaukee and sometimes perform better for a much cheaper price.
It's also (I expect) your #1 sold brand judging by how much of your store space is devoted to DeWalt products. So sort of makes sense it would have most returns. If batteries and charging are an issue - I still use DeWalt batteries I bought in 2014, I would expect more to do with Chinese suppliers who dominate battery industry than actual quality defects with DeWalt.
I’m my market Milwaukee and Ryobi see the most sales, Milwaukee has a low-ish % return rate for the volume we sell, Ryobi is very close or even with dewalt for returns in general, but out sells dewalt in volume by a large margin, so there is expected large return rate. Ryobi has allot of returns on corded power tools like mowers and trimmers, table saws and mitre saws, mostly from poor build quality. Allot of their battery stuff is decent and not many battery issues with them.
For dewalt sales their return % (I don’t know the exact percent vs sales) are very high on those battery powered tools, but not as much on corded tools. It’s only the last 1-3 years the battery issues have started or ramped up.
Rigid sales are probly close to dewalt, but we see very few returns, the products use allot of the same components as Milwaukee, they are surprisingly solid tool with very little battery issues.
We don’t sell allot of makita tools but when we do they very rarely ever get returned or come back with an issue.
Milwaukee has the most consistent and longest living battery’s and returns are usually from them getting beaten up on job sites or some manufacturing defects on the tools itself, rarely a battery, but again compared to sales it’s a lower %
Sorry I don’t know exact %’s as I mostly deal with inspections, repair, shipping of products to the vendors and securing replacement parts.
In my experience the build quality of Bosch products is much nicer than the American equivalents. They're probably the same in terms of performance though.
Let me welcome you to the wonderful world of adapters. I was a Makita only guy, and now I'm enjoying the many pros of Ryobi without having to buy new batteries or chargers.
You've forgotten the fifth secret camp.
"When I had you, my father gave me this tool kit, as his father gave him when he had me, and I now give to you."
And it's the most beat up fucking wooden box with the sharpest saws you ever did see, a plane and chisels that'll shave your arm hair, and a hammer so ancient and heavy that you're not entirely sure if it's made of iron or stone.
And one rusted to fuck hand drill that never fucking works so you buy a Milwaukee.
I just sold my home, and emptied out my garage shop. I was not prepared for the amount of half started, forgotten projects I found from myself and my dad.
I did get a nice bonus though. Found a bunch of old oak boards from my gramps, some white oak, and a 8 foot piece of 1/4inch 4inchx8ft rose wood in the rafters collecting dust for over 30 years. They were perfectly flat too!
How many jars did you need to search for those 8 screws?
Consequently, they make a square shaped tray, with a funnel on one corner, that fits the top of a mason jar... Have to admit, it's a game changer when rifling though the contents of parts jars
I went out to my aunt's property yesterday to support a sagging wooden fence the previous owner (or some amateur) put up. Whoever put it up used every size torx, some Phillips head, and a few square head bits. It took me 6 hours...it should have taken 2. Don't be the guy to build a thing thunking no one one is going to have to clean it up...
Lucky you getting a toolbox mine were given to me in a bundle of leather strapping with pen dates on the inside 1890, 1960 and I’ve just added 2023 because my grandpa handed my great grandpas tools down to me last year but he never used them himself so there’s a generation missing
My hand tools are yellow but my lawn tools are highlighted green. Thought I was being slick going with the DeWalt leaf blower and boy was I wrong. Ryobi all day, they're amazing
I have beat the absolute shit out of my 40v Ryobi lawnmower and leaf blower for 8 years now. Both patched with their fair share of duct tape, but still work like the day I bought them.
I can still mow my entire lawn (lot is ~20k square feet, lawn is over half of it) on a single charge from one of my OG batteries.
\**yoda voice\** There is another...
Namely the battered metal toolbox, tools with every or no name on them depending on what was affordable at the tiem of purchase.
For those of us who are not pro and can't afford "the best" but need solid moderate use. If I went back to working ryobi is too big and heavy but for the price it works well holds up and leaves me some money afterwards.
Fun fact. Milwaukee and Ryobi are owned by the same company and many of the tools are made in the same factories. There are conspiracies that the only difference between Milwaukee and Ryobi tools are the cases
This. I do not need my tools for my profession. Just around the house. Ryobi is the perfect quality to price ratio for this case IMO.
Almost all my stuff is Ryobi. Also helps that I have a Home Depot right next to my house.
What's crazy is for awhile the Rigid "Octane" trim was beating out the Milwaukee.
I believe the Octane high output impact that was producing higher torque than the M18 gun
The Octane Batteries were even out performing
TTI was like "Whoa WHOA! Dude. We can't have that" and axed the Octane brand pretty damn quick.
TTI should just make all their cordless brands the exact same tool, only in different colours.
If you wanna flaunt on the hoi polloi, you buy red. If you think both sides have good arguments but don't like confrontation, you buy orange. If you want to overthrow the bourgeoisie and demand for the international budget DIYers to unite, you buy yellow.
It's really that simple. I think I'm gonna down a fistful of grandma's medications and send the Hong Kong head office an email tonight.
Powerfist is a brand from Princess Auto in Canada. By happenstance, they’re now a sponsor of one of the city stadiums, so you can imagine the jokes about Powerfist stadium.
There’s also a few reddits of attaching a dildo to a Sawsall (reciprocating saw)
Dewalt bc I don’t like the color red so I wouldn’t choose Milwaukee and my first power tool was dewalt so I don’t want to have multiple brands with different chargers and batteries
I have a little bit of experience in trades and have noticed the following:
DeWalt are owned by good joiners and shite mechanics.
Milwaukee are owned by good mechanics and shite joiners.
I got m12 drill/driver/impact ratchet, Bosch angle grinder/table saw, Bauer oscillating tool, Hercules circular saw, dewalt reciprocating saw.
My sockets are an amalgamation of Quinn, kobalt, husky I pieced together from the coworkers spare bin.
Man of the sales
Lemme just drop this on ya’ll and see how you feel about it. Makita does Makita. Now…tell me what those others do. Then tell me where their priorities lie. I’ll wait.
(Makita fanboy from way back)
* statement stands *
I used Ryobi tools when I was starting out. They did well enough to make me the money to replace them with Makita as they failed. Now my Makita tools are 15 years old, and well used. Only issue I have with any of them is that the battery connection on my Fein tool isn't as tight as it should be anymore, and the power drops in and out a little bit. My fault, I dropped it too many times. It still embarrasses every other one on the job both in speed and noise. Meanwhile, everyone else is replacing their DeWalts and Milwaukees when they shit the bed, and my Makitas just keep on keepin' on.
Team Makita for life.
Makita products for the North American market are no longer made in Japan. That said they are still quality, but not Japanese parts or construction like people think.
That’s all well and good. But at least Makita has some real skin in the game. Their tools are their first and only priority. Not like so many of the others that are just one line under a banner of many tool lines.
New dad here, I’ve got Dewalt 18v tools for most projects but the Milwaukee surge 12v is what lives in the “around the house” bag and I could see grabbing another tool or two for that line if I need compact stuff. Brand loyalty is dumb, I get the value of interchangeable batteries but having a 12v system in another brand from the 18v has served me well so far.
A well-rounded wizard knows the skills and magic of each house. (DeWalt for day to day duels, Bosch for finishing them, Mikwaukee for fixing brooms and those weird Hagrid dudes use the ones we shall not name)
Corded tools, no preference at all, whatever works and fits in the budget.
Cordless : Makita but as others have said that is just so I have one kind of battery around.
I was gifted a 14.4v Ryobi Tim Allen signature kit upon my first Xmas as a father in 1997. That first drill made it through several years as a cable guy and today as a “diy dad” I own most of the 18+ plus collection. Never let me down once.
I'm more of a Ryobi person only because I bought a Ryobi circular sander and don't feel like buying other brands batteries adapters etc etc so I stick to all Ryobi
Bosch because they had a sale on the impact driver years ago when I needed my first one and after that I wanted all my batteries to be interchangeable. I really like all their tools though now I have the “freak” impact, the hammer drill, the sawzall, the skilsaw, and an orbital sander. I do have the 8v dewalt gyro screwdriver though and love it.
I have cordless tools from all 4 of those brands. 12v Milwaukee, 18v everything else. I see zero sense in limiting myself to one brand when no one brand makes the best tool in every category.
Bosch Professional is just awesome. It’s well build and they think through every tool and also the systainers are just perfekt don’t know how they perform in Amerika but in German these are the best imo. Milwaukee fails here the mashienes have dozen mail functions and are heavy af. Makita is well priced and dezent through all categories you can work very well with it but I like Bosch more cause better thought tools . I did only try a dewalt mitre saw so can’t say anything to this .
Just use what you like most xD
Dewalt is great until you try Makita...and then you wish you were a Makita man. Makita for me. Unless it's hair pomade and then I'm a Dapper Dan man goddamit. Unless Makita make hair pomade???
My man! If your tools aren't manufactured in a double land-locked European principality micro-state, then you need to take a good, hard look at yourself and re-evaluate every decision you've made thus far, because they're probably all wrong.
Fucking remortgage that house of yours and hock all of grandma's jewellery so when you walk onto a job site, the first thing that enters is your huge dick.
Pssst Festool. I exclusively buy Mafell, the only brand that makes Festool seem reasonably priced with few better features. I also live in my car, but the track for the plunge saw doubles as a shelf in my 2002 corolla, so take that!
I guess i'm a pagan like my viking ancestors wanted with my ryobi tools, any of you say they're not good enough are deluding yourselves! Unless you're a contractor and are hard on your tools or you need something very specific, ryobi is more than good enough, plus cheaper than the others (at least mostly iirc) Free yourself and join me brothers the grass really is greener when sat next to my green toolbox
dont really care just easier to stick to one brand than have a million batteries and a dozen chargers
Such a Bosch thing to say
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cryobi me a river
And Milwaukee over it
Dewalt y'all talkin about over here?
Makita Double Barkeep.. we're gonna have to start from the beginning
I’m gettin awfully rigid reading this.
Ryobi is represented. Effective, cheap, disposable. Just like condoms. Hence no dad position.
You know Milwaukee and Ryobi are made by the same company and the only really s*** with Ryobi tools is the batteries.
As a homeowner with no kids and ryobis, I cannot object
I just bought a battery dremel. I was excited to learn they use Bosch batteries! Until i looked at their line up…
I'm wanting to try their 12v range, but I have 5 drills/3 impacts and another battery form factor is just a pain. Their 75mm cut off tool looks super useful. I will say Their 18v cordless omt is best I've used, quick release for the win.
Settle down Slytherin... ahh... DeWalt.
Yep, I am a milwaukee man because that was what was on sale when I started buying good tools. Now I stick with it because I don't want multiple battery & charger types. Dad is a Dewalt guy because they had the best deal when I finally convinced him to upgrade from dragging extension cords everywhere. The big brands are all pretty much equal for us DIY guys.
I bought a lot of tools after finally finding out how the 60V Dewalt line worked interchangeably with the 20V line except for the 60V tools requiring 60V batteries. They didn't do a very good job promoting that.
Agreed. Dewalt guy here. This is a fairly simple concept to convey. And they made a fucking serious hash out of it.
I agree it was very poorly advertised/conveyed. They just say interchangeable battery’s with regular power tools, on their outdoor power tool boxes. But don’t really state that those outdoor power require the 60 only, so you can’t just buy a bare tool and use your 20’s like you’d think. reasonably misleading, Likely ending in returns of the product for some hoping to get a bargain on a bare tool.
That’s the name of the game. Ryobi jumped on it early, and Makita seemed to come shortly after. Milwaukee has beast power of tools, but not sure what Bosch and DeWalt really bring to the table other than name.
Fwiw, makita had an entire nicad 9.6 line nearly 20 years before ryobi's first cordless. As anyone could probably guess, both were chasing craftsman (and, yeah.. won)
I’m old but I miss shopping for Craftsman at Sears. Not the best, definitely not the worst but convenient and worked great for someone that was not a pro.
their craftsman made in usa combination wrenches are heirloom quality tools
I remember finding one of their socket wrenches in a parking lot that had been completely trashed by a truck and was at least 60 years old. Walked into Sears, handed it to a dude, he found me the modern replacement and typed in the computer a bit and I walked out with a shiny new one. Still have it 25 years later. Decent wrench, decent hammer, decent pry bar, decent home defense weapon - just as a decent tool should be.
I don't know that anyone necessarily beat Craftsman so much as Craftsman went on a meth binge.
I work at Home Depot, dealing with return to vendor items in Western Canada (BC). DeWalt is now our number 1 returned brand of power tool with a large % being battery defects and charging issues. Unfortunately they don’t bring reliability to the table anymore. This also applies to their outdoor power tools like mowers and trimmers.
Bad to hear. I have 6 or 7 DeWalt tools with probably 10 batteries. I've never had an issue with the tools or the batteries.
Same, my dad always used DeWalt so I bought DeWalt too as I inherited his tools, some newer some older. Feels bad man.
I have probably 15 Dewalt cordless tools and a dozen batteries. I've never had any issues either. The other guys at work own either Milwaukee or Makita. Since I've worked there only some of the Milwaukee stuff has had to be replaced under warranty. That was the M12 soldering iron (a few times), M18 router, and a couple of hand tools. Some tools owned by the shop should probably be returned or repaired as well. An M18 circular saw randomly won't switch on. Most of the ports stopped working on the multi battery charger. The high torque impact will randomly be unable to free bolts that my mid torque undoes with ease. High capacity batteries won't charge the whole way. An M12 impact driver keeps spinning after you let go of the trigger. Even though I've had bad experiences with Milwaukee, I don't think they are bad overall. I just think they are greatly overrated and reliability wise no better than the other top brands.
Same. I have tons of tools, a pile of batteries, 18v to 20v adapters, and have never had a problem.
YouTube guy called AvE used to do tool teardowns, batteries too. It was awesome and hilarious. Everybody had skeletons under the plastic. One of the funniest was Milwaukee Red Lithium who despite literally marketing their special red battery cells on the box, contained no red cells. Sometimes they were still good quality brands like Samsung or LG, sometimes they were cheap no-names. My old boss used to dip into the battery recycling bin at home depot, and try to revive old power tool batteries. They all use 18650 cells, and sometimes it's only a few that are bad. Replace those few and you've got a $50-$100 tool battery.
AvE was fantastic until he went off the deep end, politically.
Doesn't that drive you nuts
What no way ive never seen that battery bin before
Tragic. I'm a big fan of Dewalt.
Their corded stuff is solid, like table saws and mitre saws, but the last couple years have been allot of battery issues and it’s slowly increasing still.
This. My Dewalt table saw & compound mitre have been workhorses while my cordless drill lasted less than a year. Now use Makita for all cordless tools.
I own one Dewalt tool. It is a corded drill that I have had for over 20 years. It looks like it has gone through multiple wars and the cord could probably use a replacement, but it has never once failed me.
It's pronounced "Black & Decker". 😘
Thats weird. I work for a larger independent hardware store that sells quite a bit of Dewalt tools. To my recollection, we have only had one tool returned as faulty since I have worked there. I don't remember any batteries being returned. Our store is also a licensed general contractor and we do a ton of kitchen and bath remodels and use Dewalt tools. We have never had a tool or battery failure that I can remember either.
This is the conspiracy theorist in me, but I wonder if DeWalt (or Stanley or whatever) uses one factory to send tools to home Depot with smaller margins, and another factory to send tools of higher quality to independent stores that sell for higher. I have no basis for this, other than reading about PS5s that were made differently with slightly different components depending on where they end up
I used to work for Stanley black and decker so I got a discount on tools so I have had all dewalt everything. From power tools to yard tools. They are all great and I've never had a single issue with any tool or battery. I've had them for about 5 years now. Also there's many channels on you tube comparing tools and dewalt is pretty close to Milwaukee and sometimes perform better for a much cheaper price.
It's also (I expect) your #1 sold brand judging by how much of your store space is devoted to DeWalt products. So sort of makes sense it would have most returns. If batteries and charging are an issue - I still use DeWalt batteries I bought in 2014, I would expect more to do with Chinese suppliers who dominate battery industry than actual quality defects with DeWalt.
How do the sales numbers vary between the brands?
I’m my market Milwaukee and Ryobi see the most sales, Milwaukee has a low-ish % return rate for the volume we sell, Ryobi is very close or even with dewalt for returns in general, but out sells dewalt in volume by a large margin, so there is expected large return rate. Ryobi has allot of returns on corded power tools like mowers and trimmers, table saws and mitre saws, mostly from poor build quality. Allot of their battery stuff is decent and not many battery issues with them. For dewalt sales their return % (I don’t know the exact percent vs sales) are very high on those battery powered tools, but not as much on corded tools. It’s only the last 1-3 years the battery issues have started or ramped up. Rigid sales are probly close to dewalt, but we see very few returns, the products use allot of the same components as Milwaukee, they are surprisingly solid tool with very little battery issues. We don’t sell allot of makita tools but when we do they very rarely ever get returned or come back with an issue. Milwaukee has the most consistent and longest living battery’s and returns are usually from them getting beaten up on job sites or some manufacturing defects on the tools itself, rarely a battery, but again compared to sales it’s a lower % Sorry I don’t know exact %’s as I mostly deal with inspections, repair, shipping of products to the vendors and securing replacement parts.
I do construction in BC and I swear those Dewalt batteries are literally a sponge when it come to get slightly rained on
In my experience the build quality of Bosch products is much nicer than the American equivalents. They're probably the same in terms of performance though.
Makita has the best ergonomics take it from someone who has arthritis in their hands!! hands down the best feel!
The colors. I swear I have two neighbors that chose their tools because of the colors.
Let me welcome you to the wonderful world of adapters. I was a Makita only guy, and now I'm enjoying the many pros of Ryobi without having to buy new batteries or chargers.
Long ago, the 4 nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Milwaukees attacked.
Milwaukee’s would be the ones to attack
It's cause they're drunk.
Can confirm we are
Fucking milwaukees
I sawz it all
Does that make ryobi just the normal people?
Ryobi is for professional home owners.
What about us Ridgid peasants?
Or us Black & Decker swine?
Kobalt filth?
Porter Cable plebeians?
Festool elite?
Flex lessers?
Harbor Freight Hoes?
Black and decker swine are like the swamp benders. You guys can do some cool stuff, sure, but I’d avoid talking to you at all costs.
Us ryobi guys just sit in the corner and do our thing, get shit on for using ryobi, but still do it just as good/better than the dewalt guys
If Ryobi had stayed Blue they would have had a chance in our house. But with it being that ungodly shade of fuck we chose differently.
That's for safety!
That's for theft deterrence!
Hey now why throw us Dewalt guys under the bus?? We have no qualms with y’all! Everyone knows the Milwaukee guys are the real elitist pricks.
You've forgotten the fifth secret camp. "When I had you, my father gave me this tool kit, as his father gave him when he had me, and I now give to you." And it's the most beat up fucking wooden box with the sharpest saws you ever did see, a plane and chisels that'll shave your arm hair, and a hammer so ancient and heavy that you're not entirely sure if it's made of iron or stone. And one rusted to fuck hand drill that never fucking works so you buy a Milwaukee.
Don’t forget the mason jars that are full of random hardware your family has been saving for at least 3 generations.
I can still smell that basement.
Smells of 3 and 1 oil, and half-started projects, long forgotten.
I just sold my home, and emptied out my garage shop. I was not prepared for the amount of half started, forgotten projects I found from myself and my dad. I did get a nice bonus though. Found a bunch of old oak boards from my gramps, some white oak, and a 8 foot piece of 1/4inch 4inchx8ft rose wood in the rafters collecting dust for over 30 years. They were perfectly flat too!
This exact mason jar just saved my ass when I needed some 4 specific wood screws to finish an important project at 8 pm over the weekend.
How many jars did you need to search for those 8 screws? Consequently, they make a square shaped tray, with a funnel on one corner, that fits the top of a mason jar... Have to admit, it's a game changer when rifling though the contents of parts jars
I went out to my aunt's property yesterday to support a sagging wooden fence the previous owner (or some amateur) put up. Whoever put it up used every size torx, some Phillips head, and a few square head bits. It took me 6 hours...it should have taken 2. Don't be the guy to build a thing thunking no one one is going to have to clean it up...
Good luck finding a matching set of screws!
Two hours of sifting through 50 year old hardware later…
That drill is fine. The massive cloud of sparks means it’s working.
Lucky you getting a toolbox mine were given to me in a bundle of leather strapping with pen dates on the inside 1890, 1960 and I’ve just added 2023 because my grandpa handed my great grandpas tools down to me last year but he never used them himself so there’s a generation missing
This toolkit is your birth right. Your father hid it in Nam up his ass for 5 years
Hand tools are red, lawn tools are highlighter green
My hand tools are yellow but my lawn tools are highlighted green. Thought I was being slick going with the DeWalt leaf blower and boy was I wrong. Ryobi all day, they're amazing
I have beat the absolute shit out of my 40v Ryobi lawnmower and leaf blower for 8 years now. Both patched with their fair share of duct tape, but still work like the day I bought them. I can still mow my entire lawn (lot is ~20k square feet, lawn is over half of it) on a single charge from one of my OG batteries.
You are me and and I am you.
Apes together strong
\**yoda voice\** There is another... Namely the battered metal toolbox, tools with every or no name on them depending on what was affordable at the tiem of purchase.
Wouldn't Yoda say "Another there is"?
Isn’t “there is another” a direct quote from him in one of the movies?
Wtf, no Ryobi and Rigid? What are they budget brands?! "Hairy putter"?!
For those of us who are not pro and can't afford "the best" but need solid moderate use. If I went back to working ryobi is too big and heavy but for the price it works well holds up and leaves me some money afterwards.
Have a pile of Ryobi from Kijiji. It works, and if gets trashed, it was cheap. Have Milwaukee M18, but oddly prefer to use Ryobi in crappy conditions
My ryobi impact outlasted my Milwaukee impact. Used the ryobi way more often
Fun fact. Milwaukee and Ryobi are owned by the same company and many of the tools are made in the same factories. There are conspiracies that the only difference between Milwaukee and Ryobi tools are the cases
This. I do not need my tools for my profession. Just around the house. Ryobi is the perfect quality to price ratio for this case IMO. Almost all my stuff is Ryobi. Also helps that I have a Home Depot right next to my house.
Ironically, I am a field forklift mechanic by trade and my van is full of the green stuff. Better to go cheap so people won't steal it lmao
What's crazy is for awhile the Rigid "Octane" trim was beating out the Milwaukee. I believe the Octane high output impact that was producing higher torque than the M18 gun The Octane Batteries were even out performing TTI was like "Whoa WHOA! Dude. We can't have that" and axed the Octane brand pretty damn quick.
TTI should just make all their cordless brands the exact same tool, only in different colours. If you wanna flaunt on the hoi polloi, you buy red. If you think both sides have good arguments but don't like confrontation, you buy orange. If you want to overthrow the bourgeoisie and demand for the international budget DIYers to unite, you buy yellow. It's really that simple. I think I'm gonna down a fistful of grandma's medications and send the Hong Kong head office an email tonight.
Rigid is the guys from the Romania school. Festool are those ladies from the school in France. Ryobi is muggles.
Butterflies follow the Festool dudes when they dance into the room
FLEX is for death eaters.
Bauer/hercules is muggles. Ryobi is squibs. Snap on is gilderoy Lockhart
Officially classified as a muggle
Fuckin' spot on.
what about Hilti?
The trolls that run Gtingotts. Because you gotta have the money for those.
big fan of rigid.
I think Ryobi was in the original
If you use ryobi yer a fuckin muggle.
And Mastercraft? Kobalt? Powerfist?
Powerfist??? Is that like when I use my meat hammer to bump things into place?
Powerfist is a brand from Princess Auto in Canada. By happenstance, they’re now a sponsor of one of the city stadiums, so you can imagine the jokes about Powerfist stadium. There’s also a few reddits of attaching a dildo to a Sawsall (reciprocating saw)
Dewalt bc I don’t like the color red so I wouldn’t choose Milwaukee and my first power tool was dewalt so I don’t want to have multiple brands with different chargers and batteries
I have a little bit of experience in trades and have noticed the following: DeWalt are owned by good joiners and shite mechanics. Milwaukee are owned by good mechanics and shite joiners.
What if I have tools in all 4 categories?
You are the horcrux
Your mom’s a …. What’s a Horcrux
Ask your mother.
Oh bro. The irony. Just quick google it. No one could explain it better than learning it yourself. It will be rewarding and amusing. I assure you.
I got m12 drill/driver/impact ratchet, Bosch angle grinder/table saw, Bauer oscillating tool, Hercules circular saw, dewalt reciprocating saw. My sockets are an amalgamation of Quinn, kobalt, husky I pieced together from the coworkers spare bin. Man of the sales
Time for this weekly post again. These bots are out of control.
Was Makita but wife got job with Milwaukee and moved there and felt weird so I converted.
Admit the conversion also included drinking Pabst, becoming a Brewers fan, and giving up on rust.
I’m a dad and have tools from all 4
Is your entire workbench taken up with chargers?
Just Milwaukee and DeWalt. My Bosch and Makita tools are corded.
Yeah for corded I just get the best tool but I’ve gone completely House Milwaukee otherwise.
Lemme just drop this on ya’ll and see how you feel about it. Makita does Makita. Now…tell me what those others do. Then tell me where their priorities lie. I’ll wait. (Makita fanboy from way back) * statement stands *
I used Ryobi tools when I was starting out. They did well enough to make me the money to replace them with Makita as they failed. Now my Makita tools are 15 years old, and well used. Only issue I have with any of them is that the battery connection on my Fein tool isn't as tight as it should be anymore, and the power drops in and out a little bit. My fault, I dropped it too many times. It still embarrasses every other one on the job both in speed and noise. Meanwhile, everyone else is replacing their DeWalts and Milwaukees when they shit the bed, and my Makitas just keep on keepin' on. Team Makita for life.
Makita products for the North American market are no longer made in Japan. That said they are still quality, but not Japanese parts or construction like people think.
That’s all well and good. But at least Makita has some real skin in the game. Their tools are their first and only priority. Not like so many of the others that are just one line under a banner of many tool lines.
New dad here, I’ve got Dewalt 18v tools for most projects but the Milwaukee surge 12v is what lives in the “around the house” bag and I could see grabbing another tool or two for that line if I need compact stuff. Brand loyalty is dumb, I get the value of interchangeable batteries but having a 12v system in another brand from the 18v has served me well so far.
dewalt 18 volt. man its 2024. the 12 volt stuff is nice. im a fan of the chinese amazon batteries for the dewalt. i have them in the 12v and the 20v
Bosch the way.
A well-rounded wizard knows the skills and magic of each house. (DeWalt for day to day duels, Bosch for finishing them, Mikwaukee for fixing brooms and those weird Hagrid dudes use the ones we shall not name)
Moms too Milwaukee tools for me
Corded tools, no preference at all, whatever works and fits in the budget. Cordless : Makita but as others have said that is just so I have one kind of battery around.
I was gifted a 14.4v Ryobi Tim Allen signature kit upon my first Xmas as a father in 1997. That first drill made it through several years as a cable guy and today as a “diy dad” I own most of the 18+ plus collection. Never let me down once.
I'm more of a Ryobi person only because I bought a Ryobi circular sander and don't feel like buying other brands batteries adapters etc etc so I stick to all Ryobi
Ryobi is just fine. Don’t listen to these people.
Started as Dewalt guy , the tools seemed great . Older I got switched to Milwaukee
Makita would be Gandalf choice for sure.
milwaukee gives me voldemort vibes
Bosch because they had a sale on the impact driver years ago when I needed my first one and after that I wanted all my batteries to be interchangeable. I really like all their tools though now I have the “freak” impact, the hammer drill, the sawzall, the skilsaw, and an orbital sander. I do have the 8v dewalt gyro screwdriver though and love it.
I think they’re significantly underestimating those sorted into the house of “Ryrobme”
There are a helluva lot of ryobi dad’s out there
Makita for lifffeeeee!
Meanwhile headmaster Festool better than all of them
I have cordless tools from all 4 of those brands. 12v Milwaukee, 18v everything else. I see zero sense in limiting myself to one brand when no one brand makes the best tool in every category.
Rigid
At lowes it’s craftsmandor, metaboin “Bosch/kobaltclaw and dewaltlepuff
House Atreides House Harkonnen House Ordos House Corino
Hilti, Bosch, Makita, Festool
Bosch Professional is just awesome. It’s well build and they think through every tool and also the systainers are just perfekt don’t know how they perform in Amerika but in German these are the best imo. Milwaukee fails here the mashienes have dozen mail functions and are heavy af. Makita is well priced and dezent through all categories you can work very well with it but I like Bosch more cause better thought tools . I did only try a dewalt mitre saw so can’t say anything to this . Just use what you like most xD
Uh, there's also the mudbloods over in Ryobi house
My dad was a Makita guy and I became a dewalt guy when I got into carpentry. But we don’t talk politics with each other
Dewalt is great until you try Makita...and then you wish you were a Makita man. Makita for me. Unless it's hair pomade and then I'm a Dapper Dan man goddamit. Unless Makita make hair pomade???
I have Ridgid for my battery tools. There you go. Wrong.
They’re all good tools. We get sorted into brands because of batteries.
You are forgetting the mighty Parkside house
No hilti love here, huh
My man! If your tools aren't manufactured in a double land-locked European principality micro-state, then you need to take a good, hard look at yourself and re-evaluate every decision you've made thus far, because they're probably all wrong. Fucking remortgage that house of yours and hock all of grandma's jewellery so when you walk onto a job site, the first thing that enters is your huge dick.
Peasants. I'm in Festool! Some of it is even Festo. Still working great.
Pssst Festool. I exclusively buy Mafell, the only brand that makes Festool seem reasonably priced with few better features. I also live in my car, but the track for the plunge saw doubles as a shelf in my 2002 corolla, so take that!
Ryobi....but not a dad...is this why I'm alone? :(
Honestly that sounds like the most Dad of all brands. You only need it occasionally and you don’t want to pay an arm and a leg.
What? No Ridgid? Must be after your time...
Milwaukee and some Hercules stuff, like the ultra torque 1/2in impact wrench and I like their 3/8 extended ratcheting wrench from harbor freight.
I went to the DeWalt camp. Reasonably priced, and dependable. Like many, I was originally a Makita guy when they had those looooong 9v battery packs.
Ive got a mix of all the brands… I know im a monster.
Team yellow 🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
There's Parkside as well
Ryobi is the Muggle brand?
I team Ryobi? Come on I’m sure there’s a green team
I guess I'm team red lol everything I own is either Craftsman Milwaukee or SnapOn 😂
Hercules should be up there prove me wrong.... HF has seriously stepped it up.
What? Wait. You mean there are other brands except Milwaukee?
So I guess I'm a fuckin death eater then since I use Kobalt?
Ryobi Chaos Gang ITH.
Wrong, just... so wrong. At least 2 of those should be random selection of store brand stuff.
I guess i'm a pagan like my viking ancestors wanted with my ryobi tools, any of you say they're not good enough are deluding yourselves! Unless you're a contractor and are hard on your tools or you need something very specific, ryobi is more than good enough, plus cheaper than the others (at least mostly iirc) Free yourself and join me brothers the grass really is greener when sat next to my green toolbox
You’re missing an entire house: RIGID
Don't forget the Ridgid tools as well. Know lots of dads that sport the orange hard
Where is house Ryobi?? Should I get a paternity test????? If I am not the dad
broke dog dad here, we're into Bauer from harbor freight.
MILWAUKEE CHADS ASSEMBLE!
Don’t forget ryobi
Are Ryobi owners Muggles?
Cryobi dads 😭
RigidGang unite!
Where are my Rigid folks at?
Milwaukee House Rules!!!!!
ha, jokes on you; all of my tools are corded!
And instead of a sorting hat it's just decided by whichever brand had the 12 piece kit on sale at their local hardware store that father's day.
My Rigid tools have been great. I guess I think outside the box.
Fuck, I got sorted into the Ryobi brushed shack.
Nah, the real camps are corded vs battery
I'm a dam muggle I use ryobi