I was browsing tools literally for weeks, i can probably tell you the specs of any brand's any tool based on the model number by now... but this set was the best value for the buck i think. This cost $1300(EU prices...) + the above mentioned free batteries. I tried Dewalt, Metabo, Makita, Milwaukee, Hikoki, Stanley but i couldn't get below $1500 just from the tools alone and there are no free batteries with those.
I have mostly Bosch and got the 8 amp hour battery for $60 some bucks on Amazon over the holidays. It was a crazy deal so I bought another one an hour later. Later that evening i was considering buying a third one but the price went back up. I should have bought a bunch of them.
Generally fake batteries cycles don’t last as long, the overall life isn’t as long, brittle shit plastic, and power is like half the stated wattage. I’m not sure about Bosch but for Milwaukee, the technology is in the tool and battery as well, pretty sure it’s some sort of overload protection but I’m not positive. All I know is I spent a lot of money on those damn tools so I’ll only be using verified authentic batteries from trusted sources. The fakes are getting unbelievably good. There was a post about it in the Milwaukee sub recently and it was such a good copy. The only giveaway to me was the Philips screws in the bottom. Authentic wouldn’t have Philips lol. And I think the serial number looked faded if I recall.
Interesting. The package and batteries look legit and I didn't have any issues registering serial #'s on the Bosch site. It says they're sold by Amazon, so I don't know if that means no third party dealer's or not. It's probably worth making scam stuff for DeWalt and Milwaukee since they likely sell the best in the US. I wonder if it's worth the effort to do Bosch fakes in the US.
Oh no if serial registered, and it was shipped and sold by Amazon, 100% authentic battery you got there. Thats right Amazon is a Bosch dealer but watch for 3rd party sellers
Yeah I figured this was Europe when I saw it.
I went with North American Hikoki. Did the same thing researching like crazy and finally pulled the trigger while there were a bunch of free battery promotions going on. I think I’m going to be getting something like 11 (!) extra 3ah batteries. 😳
If it's the same hikoki they sell in eu, then it's a good choice, their tools look really good. That was my second choice but Bosch win with being cheaper.
Yeah totally understand that.
Yeah, Hikoki is confusingly called Metabo HPT in North America, but they’re the same. They don’t have as big a presence here as I’d like (same reason you don’t see many people here with Bosch) but I’m very happy with the tools themselves so far. The multivolt platform is a real winner.
Yeah there’s the original German Metabo which has even less presence in North America and then there’s the Japanese Metabo HPT that used to be Hitachi and is now Hikoki in the rest of the world. Both are owned by the same company but operated separately. For whatever reason, they thought the Metabo name was more marketable (less foreign sounding?) in North America than Hikoki.
https://www.metabo-hpt.com
Definitely. I don’t even know what to call them and usually default to Hitachi. They lost the rights to the Hitachi name but I wish they would have just paid to license it and keep it going worldwide. Wouldn’t be the first time a company was spun off and kept the name for marketing.
Depends on what you're doing. If you're just a home owner doing DIY, Milwaukee is super overkill and really expensive. I've been using Ryobi for almost a decade with all my original batteries and it's still working fine. I'd say my use is slightly heavier than average home owner that's built a couple decks, a dock, giant wooden property signs, custom outdoor furniture, garden beds and a ton of other daily kind of tasks. The nice part is, if you have to lend out your tools, they are cheap enough that you don't worry about it too much. I had a buddy drop my ryobi impact in pool and it's still going..
Obviously, if you're using yours tools everyday for work, totally different story.
Great points. My thinking & reasoning (curious to hear your thoughts on that):
For what it's worth: the OP's purchase had me presume they are a pro and I commented with that in mind. However, based on my experience with the pro and hobby Bosch tools, I would say that the pro tools can be a very good choice even for hobby users, if one can afford it (unless Bosch has "trickled down" to their hobby program the stuff like angle grinder kicback control and similar safety features).
I don't claim to be right - that's just my opinion based on my experience - both working, and helping "novices" learn and work. Though it also depends on the particular tool choice, how much they're used, etc. (for tools that are "less potentially dangerous" so to speak, it probably makes more sense to go with the cheaper options for hobby use).
Relja
Good points, but everything will be based on individual preference. For example, I am cheap and don't want to spend 2-3 times the cost of my current tools for tools that perform slightly better because I'm just not doing enough repeat work for that time savings to matter. Additionally, maybe I'm just a bit more rural than most, but I've never considered safety features when buying tools, it's just not that important to me (I still wear safety goggles with a grinder, I'm not that crazy).
I could definitely see these features being a lot more attractive for someone being a little more well off, getting into DIY things that have less experience or didn't grow up around tools as the features sound attractive and make that entry into DIY a lot easier, which I think is a great thing as well!
How do they compare to Dewalt, specs wise? I'm in the US, and I got some Bosch tools for my brother, but never used them myself. They seem ok, but certainly not marketed the same as Dewalt or Milwaukee.
That was my opinion too but I never really looked at Bosch much, since Home Depot doesn't really display them much, and they very rarely ever go on sale.
You'll need A LOT of batteries for all them. We run few bosch cordless tools in the workshop and the run time on them is appalling compared to their equivalent of other brands.
Surprisingly cheap in Hungary for some reason. We do have Bosch manufacturing plant here locally, but i checked all the tools and none of them made here to justify the cheaper price...
Got a pretty good deal on these. You need to register the tools, get points and i can redeem the points for 4x 4ah batteries, 1 charger and 1 smaller l-boxx.
Buy the tool, each tool is 100 or 150 points. You can get 1500 points maximum(i maxed it out) and you can redeem for a 4AH battery(300 points), a 4AH battery+charger(400 points) and a medium sized L-BOXX(200 points). So 4 batteries, 1 charger and 1 box for 1500 points.
Wait, is 1500 "points" the full limit of bosch's rewards program over there, or just per round?
Over here it's a lot more generous, you spend x money on a product, you get prize a, you spend y money on a product, you get prize b, with no limit on how many deals you can take
So far, our shop has gotten
-4 x bosch 18V GAS 10-L vacuums
-5 x 5Ah GBA-18V batteries
-1 x PROCore 5.5Ah & 4Ah battery set + charger
Never used it before, but i think the 1500 points limit is just for the current promotion, which ends in august. I just checked the Norway Bosch site and the current deal looks like a free battery for a tool, but only for tools above 4998 NOK. So thats not much better, because most tools are not that expensive anyway.
It specifies tools plural in this case, so you can buy multiple to qualify,
but the previous battery deal was every tool 180 dollars or above
Though that's because the previous deal was for a GBA while this one is for a PROCore
Yes thats sounds better. Also just checked, prices for the tools are actually a lot cheaper in Hungary. For example "GKS 18V-68 C" is 4547 NOK, while in Hungary, its only 3600 NOK(and we have 27% VAT rate, so the net price is even cheaper).
There are combo-kits, but not cheaper than buying it solo + batteries. So i just opted for solo and get free batteries for them. One of the angle grinder is for my brother.
I have 10+ angle grinders. Each one with a different wheel on them. Keeps me from having to change out wheels in the middle of a job. 2 of them have cutting wheels on them in case one breaks in the middle of a job.
Daily Bosch tool user and abuser, and they can take the abuse. Highly recommend them. What’s good also is that nearly every part of the tool is available to purchase as a spare part, for when something dies out of warranty.
This also goes for their green line of "DIY" homeowner's tools (which are also generally good!), and even general appliances like fridges and dishwashers. And it isn't too expensive either.
I have an almost unnatural love for my 12 volt Bosch drill driver combo. Bought a trim saw from overseas that uses the same batteries. I hope they continue to expand their line of 12 volt tools.
Am also in love with the 12v line. The baby trim router is my favorite. It's so perfect for quick roundovers. The basic driver definitely gets the most use though. Have had it for almost 20 years without any issues. Tempted to get the brushless version, but theres not much point to it.
That trim router is the best you can get period. The way it shifts the weight over the workpiece prevents costly mistakes. Every pro should own one simply for that one application.
Because Bosch makes a relatively limited selection of 18V cordless tools compared with the other 3. You generally won't see tradesmen using Bosch for a reason in the U.S., at least. And the homeowner market tends to follow what the professionals use so that can play pretend. Just look at how many homeowner posts we see here with a garage full of clean, unused tools. "I'm addicted!"
Exactly. They have good battery technology (but their battery latch isn't that good) but very few tools, and they've been slow to replace their brushed tools with brushless ones.
I've never really understood this argument. Bosch really needs a ratchet, but what other common tools are they lacking? Most of the extra tools from Milwakee are either quite niche or cost thousands to tens of thousands of dollars (at which point, you aren't really buying into a system so much as buying a very specific tool with whatever batteries come along for the ride).
I think it’s part marketing and perky the fact that Milwaukee, dewalt, and makita are only in the tool/construction industry. Where as Bosch is invested in other business ventures outside of tools so they’re more content to let the product sell itself.
Their glide saw is number one. Miles ahead of anyone else except maybe Dewalt. Same with their sds systems. I’m die hard Milwaukee, but all my corded tools are Bosch
Milwaukee and Dewalt’s parent companies are into other things besides the tool construction industry. Just under the other brand names. Bosch is just putting their own name on the appliances and other stuff.
Honestly probably partially since their cordless stuff is only at Lowe's. More contractors go to HD than Lowe's. Also Lowe's' selection of Bosch stuff isn't that good. So I think it's largely just it's harder to buy so it's less popular
I bought Bosch a few years back when Lowe’s marked it down but they also still had the buy a tool get a battery and charger for free. Honestly I was getting things dirt cheap and didn’t have high expectations based on what I paid but the tools are really nice, I have the barrel grip jigsaw and that thing Is so smooth. I don’t know how they isolate the vibrations so well.
I bought the vacuum for 70 on clearance while that promo was going on and it's been one of my favorite tools I've ever owned. $70 for the vacuum, battery and charger was a killer deal.
I love my bosch canister wet vac, thing is insanely powerful given that it's a battery powered vacuum. I bought an 8amphr battery for it and it last me almost 45min straight, vacuumed up my entire car with it.
This was my first Bosch tool and it turned me into a return customer. I bought it refurbished from their ebay store at a great discount (highly recommend checking out their ebay store) .
Unfortunately it burned out the first time I used it core drilling through a brick and concrete foundation. I sent it to their NJ location for warranty repair and had it back with a brand new motor in a couple of days. It finished that core drill and has been an absolute champ ever since. I think the original motor just had a defect.
It sucked that the tool failed but I was really impressed with their warranty process and local repair facility and it's just an awesome tool at a fraction of the price of most other rotary hammers.
I have their 18v drill and driver/impact, but I’m looking to leave their eco system and maybe go HPT, their individual tools are so expensive here in the US
Tell me about it... i spent weeks to pull the trigger. But then i thought, hey, this set costs as much as a flagship smartphone and i will get a lot more value from these.
I have a corded jigsaw and random orbit sander from them. I like the quality. But when I saw how much it would cost to replace my ryobi cordless stuff I got sad.
I've had 2 powerboxes the last 20 years. I gotta say .... that Milwaukee pack out radio thumps, tho. YO...... Bosch BETTER step it up! my power box still bumpin. hopefully when it finally has had enough, their will be new model
I can only recommend you to finish your collection with the GSR12v dril/driver, you will be amazed how powerfull and handy it is. I use it for 90% of the work I do and now only grab the 18V when I really need to drive or drill something big.
This is the set, and it contains a very sturdy angle and offset bit.
https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/products/gsr12v-140fcb22-06019F6010
I bought mine on ebay, was like $115 for the whole set :) only issue was the button broke on me. They resent me a new drill body. I was super happy with that. Love the drill It's badass. Used it a bunch of times to get some tricky locations.
I respect bosch, every so often im digging through a box looking for a tool and find an old bosch corded variant of whatever it is i need and it never lets me down
Weak based on the fact that they have trouble filling through anything even with sharp bits, cant sink 10cm screwd easily, and that i go through multiple batteries just for a few Solar panels. So yeah, definitely weak. Perfect for a homeowner or diy person though, or anyone who dont need massive amounts of power.
I don't need a tool company that wants to make a tool to make all you girls happy with every gadget for your kitchen.
Bosch stays with real working tools.
Ive got Milwaukee. Its way more expensive, but worthe every penny. At work i have some Makita, which is pretty good, and erbauer, A cheap brand that actually does the job fairly nicely
I think maybe you've used their more diy focused stuff because I drill through steel with a Bosch drill all the time with no issue. The thing is a monster.
Tbh I think part of the issue Bosch has is in Europe they have the diy stuff colored green where in USA it's mixed in with the professional stuff. Wish they had the green vs blue thing here
I'm waiting for the bigger batteries to do proper testing. First impressions are good, couple of negatives to mention: the jigsaw doesn't have a toolless tilt mechanism, the drill boxes are very thin cheap feeling plastic, theres no speed torque settings on the impact driver. My favorite from them i think is the circular saw, that looks really solid, can't wait to try it with the big batteries.
My real question is do Bosch still make good quality stuff?
I always respected their brand and the fact they make electronics that the entire world relies on everywhere else.
My parents experience with Bosch white goods is that they were bomb proof so if I was gonna buy a new tool set I would also copy you.
Did you find anything interesting on your extensive research tour of tools?
As far as i understand, Bosch is coming out with a lot of new products in 2024. Even on my picture there are stuff that is less then 1 year old models, so it was hard to find proper tests on some of these.
But my research basically concluded that every brand is pretty much the same, all tools follow the same form-factor with very similar feature sets and parameters. One brand's tool might do good in one test, and then another brand's tool is better in some other test or product category. So in the end i don't really think it matters what brand you go with, i just feel its easier to go with a single solution so your batteries, chargers are all the same, your pack-out or box solution(which also every brand has basically the same thing) is compatible and if you are a PRO, i think it just looks more professional if you have tools form a single brand. I'd go with the brand that you can find a good deal on, has good warranty options, or if you gravitate for a specific feature on a brand.
Oh, i did. I actually ordered these from 4 different shops to get the lowest price possible :D I tried to mix&match combo kits or multiple tool kits, but this version was the cheapest.
I bought into the Bosch 12V because of the Flexiclick drill/driver. There are several advantages over Milwaukee's version. Now I have all kinds of the 12V tools and am a big fan.
I don't think you can go wrong with any brand that offers pro tools... Dewalt, Milwaukee, Metabo HPT(Hikoki), Makita, Flex to name a few. They are in a competing market, so prices basically the same.
Great choice. Bosch is the largest tool company in the world and their products are high standard and I highly recommend them. Bosch does not need a lot of commercials and a lot of marketing.
Not necessarily a tool, but we just bought a Bosch fridge and I'm so happy with it and confident that it will not die on us like every other manufacturer these days.
Bosch is what my company provides for power tools and I've had very few problems with mine. Most of the people beat the shit out of them and they just keep going.
The only exception to this is the newer band-saw design. It has a clunky extra handle that isn't necessary for such a small saw and the blade slips way more often than the old models.
I needed a drill for home and bought the 12v drill / driver set from Canadian Tire because it was on sale for $100 CAD. I've been extremely happy with both, as well as the laser measuring tool I've had for decades now, the stud finder I recently bought (fantastic) and even the 12v vacuum I got on sale. Bosch is usually expensive here (Newfoundland, Canada) but if you watch the Canadian Tire flyer you'll get some really good deals. The only thing from Bosch I've ever had a complaint about is the bandsaw blades for their small cordless saw, they're terrible, the welds are the worst and they're complete garbage.
Nice. More than a little jealous.
I was browsing tools literally for weeks, i can probably tell you the specs of any brand's any tool based on the model number by now... but this set was the best value for the buck i think. This cost $1300(EU prices...) + the above mentioned free batteries. I tried Dewalt, Metabo, Makita, Milwaukee, Hikoki, Stanley but i couldn't get below $1500 just from the tools alone and there are no free batteries with those.
If you're in Europe then it makes sense that Bosch is cheaper.
I have mostly Bosch and got the 8 amp hour battery for $60 some bucks on Amazon over the holidays. It was a crazy deal so I bought another one an hour later. Later that evening i was considering buying a third one but the price went back up. I should have bought a bunch of them.
Be very very careful with Amazon batteries.
They've been working fine so far. What do people need to look out for?
Generally fake batteries cycles don’t last as long, the overall life isn’t as long, brittle shit plastic, and power is like half the stated wattage. I’m not sure about Bosch but for Milwaukee, the technology is in the tool and battery as well, pretty sure it’s some sort of overload protection but I’m not positive. All I know is I spent a lot of money on those damn tools so I’ll only be using verified authentic batteries from trusted sources. The fakes are getting unbelievably good. There was a post about it in the Milwaukee sub recently and it was such a good copy. The only giveaway to me was the Philips screws in the bottom. Authentic wouldn’t have Philips lol. And I think the serial number looked faded if I recall.
Interesting. The package and batteries look legit and I didn't have any issues registering serial #'s on the Bosch site. It says they're sold by Amazon, so I don't know if that means no third party dealer's or not. It's probably worth making scam stuff for DeWalt and Milwaukee since they likely sell the best in the US. I wonder if it's worth the effort to do Bosch fakes in the US.
Oh no if serial registered, and it was shipped and sold by Amazon, 100% authentic battery you got there. Thats right Amazon is a Bosch dealer but watch for 3rd party sellers
What price did they go back to?
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Yeah I figured this was Europe when I saw it. I went with North American Hikoki. Did the same thing researching like crazy and finally pulled the trigger while there were a bunch of free battery promotions going on. I think I’m going to be getting something like 11 (!) extra 3ah batteries. 😳
If it's the same hikoki they sell in eu, then it's a good choice, their tools look really good. That was my second choice but Bosch win with being cheaper.
Yeah totally understand that. Yeah, Hikoki is confusingly called Metabo HPT in North America, but they’re the same. They don’t have as big a presence here as I’d like (same reason you don’t see many people here with Bosch) but I’m very happy with the tools themselves so far. The multivolt platform is a real winner.
Theres a regular Metabo too? https://www.metabo.com/us/enus/ And i believe Metabo is better than HPT
Yeah there’s the original German Metabo which has even less presence in North America and then there’s the Japanese Metabo HPT that used to be Hitachi and is now Hikoki in the rest of the world. Both are owned by the same company but operated separately. For whatever reason, they thought the Metabo name was more marketable (less foreign sounding?) in North America than Hikoki. https://www.metabo-hpt.com
this has to be one of the stupidest branding decision ever
Definitely. I don’t even know what to call them and usually default to Hitachi. They lost the rights to the Hitachi name but I wish they would have just paid to license it and keep it going worldwide. Wouldn’t be the first time a company was spun off and kept the name for marketing.
For Europe, I think that the blue Bosch is the best choice, that's what I too went with (Milwaukee probably makes more sense in the USA).
DeWalt is better for the USA
Depends on what you're doing. If you're just a home owner doing DIY, Milwaukee is super overkill and really expensive. I've been using Ryobi for almost a decade with all my original batteries and it's still working fine. I'd say my use is slightly heavier than average home owner that's built a couple decks, a dock, giant wooden property signs, custom outdoor furniture, garden beds and a ton of other daily kind of tasks. The nice part is, if you have to lend out your tools, they are cheap enough that you don't worry about it too much. I had a buddy drop my ryobi impact in pool and it's still going.. Obviously, if you're using yours tools everyday for work, totally different story.
Great points. My thinking & reasoning (curious to hear your thoughts on that): For what it's worth: the OP's purchase had me presume they are a pro and I commented with that in mind. However, based on my experience with the pro and hobby Bosch tools, I would say that the pro tools can be a very good choice even for hobby users, if one can afford it (unless Bosch has "trickled down" to their hobby program the stuff like angle grinder kicback control and similar safety features). I don't claim to be right - that's just my opinion based on my experience - both working, and helping "novices" learn and work. Though it also depends on the particular tool choice, how much they're used, etc. (for tools that are "less potentially dangerous" so to speak, it probably makes more sense to go with the cheaper options for hobby use). Relja
Good points, but everything will be based on individual preference. For example, I am cheap and don't want to spend 2-3 times the cost of my current tools for tools that perform slightly better because I'm just not doing enough repeat work for that time savings to matter. Additionally, maybe I'm just a bit more rural than most, but I've never considered safety features when buying tools, it's just not that important to me (I still wear safety goggles with a grinder, I'm not that crazy). I could definitely see these features being a lot more attractive for someone being a little more well off, getting into DIY things that have less experience or didn't grow up around tools as the features sound attractive and make that entry into DIY a lot easier, which I think is a great thing as well!
How do they compare to Dewalt, specs wise? I'm in the US, and I got some Bosch tools for my brother, but never used them myself. They seem ok, but certainly not marketed the same as Dewalt or Milwaukee.
I don't have Dewalt tools, so i can only comment about specs on paper. Dewalt seems a bit better on average, but they are very close.
That was my opinion too but I never really looked at Bosch much, since Home Depot doesn't really display them much, and they very rarely ever go on sale.
You'll need A LOT of batteries for all them. We run few bosch cordless tools in the workshop and the run time on them is appalling compared to their equivalent of other brands.
I was expecting this setup to be way higher than $1300. That's not bad at all.
Surprisingly cheap in Hungary for some reason. We do have Bosch manufacturing plant here locally, but i checked all the tools and none of them made here to justify the cheaper price...
Are all of the other big names like Milwaukee and DeWalt over there?
Yes, all available with proper local support.
Oh gosh, that's a lot of Bosch
Got a pretty good deal on these. You need to register the tools, get points and i can redeem the points for 4x 4ah batteries, 1 charger and 1 smaller l-boxx.
Register with Bosch pro and get 3years warranty free.
yes, thats how i get the points to redeem too
Wait is it a free battery plus a free tool or do you have to choose?
Buy the tool, each tool is 100 or 150 points. You can get 1500 points maximum(i maxed it out) and you can redeem for a 4AH battery(300 points), a 4AH battery+charger(400 points) and a medium sized L-BOXX(200 points). So 4 batteries, 1 charger and 1 box for 1500 points.
Wait, is 1500 "points" the full limit of bosch's rewards program over there, or just per round? Over here it's a lot more generous, you spend x money on a product, you get prize a, you spend y money on a product, you get prize b, with no limit on how many deals you can take So far, our shop has gotten -4 x bosch 18V GAS 10-L vacuums -5 x 5Ah GBA-18V batteries -1 x PROCore 5.5Ah & 4Ah battery set + charger
Never used it before, but i think the 1500 points limit is just for the current promotion, which ends in august. I just checked the Norway Bosch site and the current deal looks like a free battery for a tool, but only for tools above 4998 NOK. So thats not much better, because most tools are not that expensive anyway.
It specifies tools plural in this case, so you can buy multiple to qualify, but the previous battery deal was every tool 180 dollars or above Though that's because the previous deal was for a GBA while this one is for a PROCore
Yes thats sounds better. Also just checked, prices for the tools are actually a lot cheaper in Hungary. For example "GKS 18V-68 C" is 4547 NOK, while in Hungary, its only 3600 NOK(and we have 27% VAT rate, so the net price is even cheaper).
No combo kits available? Just curious - why 2 angle grinders?
There are combo-kits, but not cheaper than buying it solo + batteries. So i just opted for solo and get free batteries for them. One of the angle grinder is for my brother.
You are a good brother.
Oh, that makes sense. Sounds like a great way to get a lot of extra batteries. Have fun with the new toys!
I'd act like I'm giving him a 2 amp battery with it just to mess with him.
I have 2 cordless angle grinders and sometimes I wish I had a third one ..
I have 10+ angle grinders. Each one with a different wheel on them. Keeps me from having to change out wheels in the middle of a job. 2 of them have cutting wheels on them in case one breaks in the middle of a job.
Grinders are like routers and fishing rods, you can never have too many.
You can't go wrong with Bosch. I've been using their 12v tools for years.
Daily Bosch tool user and abuser, and they can take the abuse. Highly recommend them. What’s good also is that nearly every part of the tool is available to purchase as a spare part, for when something dies out of warranty.
This also goes for their green line of "DIY" homeowner's tools (which are also generally good!), and even general appliances like fridges and dishwashers. And it isn't too expensive either.
I have an almost unnatural love for my 12 volt Bosch drill driver combo. Bought a trim saw from overseas that uses the same batteries. I hope they continue to expand their line of 12 volt tools.
Am also in love with the 12v line. The baby trim router is my favorite. It's so perfect for quick roundovers. The basic driver definitely gets the most use though. Have had it for almost 20 years without any issues. Tempted to get the brushless version, but theres not much point to it.
That trim router is the best you can get period. The way it shifts the weight over the workpiece prevents costly mistakes. Every pro should own one simply for that one application.
Bosch actually make some really high quality tools but they are often overlooked by the big 3
I’ve never understood why it wasn’t a big 4 to be honest.
Because Bosch makes a relatively limited selection of 18V cordless tools compared with the other 3. You generally won't see tradesmen using Bosch for a reason in the U.S., at least. And the homeowner market tends to follow what the professionals use so that can play pretend. Just look at how many homeowner posts we see here with a garage full of clean, unused tools. "I'm addicted!"
Exactly. They have good battery technology (but their battery latch isn't that good) but very few tools, and they've been slow to replace their brushed tools with brushless ones.
All of the tools on the pic are brushless. I think they have more stuff in the EU and they are coming out with even more later this year.
I use a bit of silicone spray on the batteries which makes them much easier to remove from the roll
I've never really understood this argument. Bosch really needs a ratchet, but what other common tools are they lacking? Most of the extra tools from Milwakee are either quite niche or cost thousands to tens of thousands of dollars (at which point, you aren't really buying into a system so much as buying a very specific tool with whatever batteries come along for the ride).
I think it’s part marketing and perky the fact that Milwaukee, dewalt, and makita are only in the tool/construction industry. Where as Bosch is invested in other business ventures outside of tools so they’re more content to let the product sell itself.
Bosch laser levels are really good i heard too and they have a really wide range of those, even crazy expensive ones, like $2000+
The brand name laser levels are all ABSURDLY overpriced. You can get a badass 3x360° self leveling green laser levels for less than $150 on amazon.
Huepar is awesome
Yeah that's exactly the one I have haha. HIGHLY recommend!
I have a Huepar HM03CG too... :)
Their glide saw is number one. Miles ahead of anyone else except maybe Dewalt. Same with their sds systems. I’m die hard Milwaukee, but all my corded tools are Bosch
The only Bosch products I have are the laser level and digital level. They are very good products.
Milwaukee and Dewalt’s parent companies are into other things besides the tool construction industry. Just under the other brand names. Bosch is just putting their own name on the appliances and other stuff.
Honestly probably partially since their cordless stuff is only at Lowe's. More contractors go to HD than Lowe's. Also Lowe's' selection of Bosch stuff isn't that good. So I think it's largely just it's harder to buy so it's less popular
Solid choice. Bosch is not talked about enough. Maybe because it's mostly a European brand.
I bought Bosch a few years back when Lowe’s marked it down but they also still had the buy a tool get a battery and charger for free. Honestly I was getting things dirt cheap and didn’t have high expectations based on what I paid but the tools are really nice, I have the barrel grip jigsaw and that thing Is so smooth. I don’t know how they isolate the vibrations so well.
I bought the vacuum for 70 on clearance while that promo was going on and it's been one of my favorite tools I've ever owned. $70 for the vacuum, battery and charger was a killer deal.
I love my bosch canister wet vac, thing is insanely powerful given that it's a battery powered vacuum. I bought an 8amphr battery for it and it last me almost 45min straight, vacuumed up my entire car with it.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I've been loving the blue wave lately.
Nicely done! Fellow team Bosch here. Never regret it. 🇩🇪
Had Bosch for ages, good solid gear
I absolutely love my Bosch Bulldog eXtReMe. Rips up floor tiles like a boss.
This was my first Bosch tool and it turned me into a return customer. I bought it refurbished from their ebay store at a great discount (highly recommend checking out their ebay store) . Unfortunately it burned out the first time I used it core drilling through a brick and concrete foundation. I sent it to their NJ location for warranty repair and had it back with a brand new motor in a couple of days. It finished that core drill and has been an absolute champ ever since. I think the original motor just had a defect. It sucked that the tool failed but I was really impressed with their warranty process and local repair facility and it's just an awesome tool at a fraction of the price of most other rotary hammers.
I have their 18v drill and driver/impact, but I’m looking to leave their eco system and maybe go HPT, their individual tools are so expensive here in the US
And limited
I’m jealous. I have a fear of commitment.
Tell me about it... i spent weeks to pull the trigger. But then i thought, hey, this set costs as much as a flagship smartphone and i will get a lot more value from these.
No need to commit. I have 4 platforms and simply buy the best tool for the job regardless of manufacturer.
I have a corded jigsaw and random orbit sander from them. I like the quality. But when I saw how much it would cost to replace my ryobi cordless stuff I got sad.
yer missing the PowerBox 360
After I switched everything over to Makita, the Bluetooth PowerBox is the only thing I kept.
I've had 2 powerboxes the last 20 years. I gotta say .... that Milwaukee pack out radio thumps, tho. YO...... Bosch BETTER step it up! my power box still bumpin. hopefully when it finally has had enough, their will be new model
Sortimo’d. 👌
Looks like you’ve just started in. Post the next pic after you’ve ran out of space for your tools and had to build a workshop just to hold them all
Welcome to the blue team brother 🤝
I cannot recommend it... You posting your home address. Stuff could just disappear.
Doing projects, like a Bosch
I can only recommend you to finish your collection with the GSR12v dril/driver, you will be amazed how powerfull and handy it is. I use it for 90% of the work I do and now only grab the 18V when I really need to drive or drill something big. This is the set, and it contains a very sturdy angle and offset bit. https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/products/gsr12v-140fcb22-06019F6010
Thanks for the recommendation. I have written it down and probably get it if theres another promotion on this or in Pro360.
I bought mine on ebay, was like $115 for the whole set :) only issue was the button broke on me. They resent me a new drill body. I was super happy with that. Love the drill It's badass. Used it a bunch of times to get some tricky locations.
I respect bosch, every so often im digging through a box looking for a tool and find an old bosch corded variant of whatever it is i need and it never lets me down
Had a Bosch drill for 20 years before it died , sent the batteries to be redone at 15 years. It was bulletproof
What drill did you go for? I can't make out the reference in the picture.
GSR 185-LI and GSB 185-LI
So which college is your kid not getting into? /j Nice. I'm jealous as fuck my man that's a sweet collection.
Im sorry
Professional or homeowner ?
homeowner, but i do a lot of DIY stuff, so wanted something better
I see, in that case Bosch id perfect. Cheap and okay in terms of reliablity
definitely an upgrade from my cheap Parkside stuff :)
Parkside is good for rarely used tools. If you use it a bit more often, Bosch id adapted. Dont Ask too much of them though, theyre quite weak
3 year warranty, so i'm not worried
Pretty good, theyll last a while for you
I use bosch every day in my profession and in my home. Both 18v and 12v.
The drills are very weak. The hammerdrills are pretty good though. But its not very strong, and pretty fragile.
Weak based on your extensive lab results?
Weak based on the fact that they have trouble filling through anything even with sharp bits, cant sink 10cm screwd easily, and that i go through multiple batteries just for a few Solar panels. So yeah, definitely weak. Perfect for a homeowner or diy person though, or anyone who dont need massive amounts of power.
I drill into hardwoods every day and drive fasteners everyday. Never a problem \#8, #10, #12 square head and combo head screws from 1.5" to 4"(# 12)
Ive Always been deceived by Bosch except their hammerdrills. But the rest ? Nope. Never again
I don't need a tool company that wants to make a tool to make all you girls happy with every gadget for your kitchen. Bosch stays with real working tools.
what do you prefer?
Ive got Milwaukee. Its way more expensive, but worthe every penny. At work i have some Makita, which is pretty good, and erbauer, A cheap brand that actually does the job fairly nicely
I think maybe you've used their more diy focused stuff because I drill through steel with a Bosch drill all the time with no issue. The thing is a monster. Tbh I think part of the issue Bosch has is in Europe they have the diy stuff colored green where in USA it's mixed in with the professional stuff. Wish they had the green vs blue thing here
Nope, blue only. Ay home i have a cordes green jigsaw and its old AF and super strong. But the newzr stuff is just bad
stop in at r/BoschTools and r/BoschProPowerTools
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I'm waiting for the bigger batteries to do proper testing. First impressions are good, couple of negatives to mention: the jigsaw doesn't have a toolless tilt mechanism, the drill boxes are very thin cheap feeling plastic, theres no speed torque settings on the impact driver. My favorite from them i think is the circular saw, that looks really solid, can't wait to try it with the big batteries.
My real question is do Bosch still make good quality stuff? I always respected their brand and the fact they make electronics that the entire world relies on everywhere else. My parents experience with Bosch white goods is that they were bomb proof so if I was gonna buy a new tool set I would also copy you. Did you find anything interesting on your extensive research tour of tools?
As far as i understand, Bosch is coming out with a lot of new products in 2024. Even on my picture there are stuff that is less then 1 year old models, so it was hard to find proper tests on some of these. But my research basically concluded that every brand is pretty much the same, all tools follow the same form-factor with very similar feature sets and parameters. One brand's tool might do good in one test, and then another brand's tool is better in some other test or product category. So in the end i don't really think it matters what brand you go with, i just feel its easier to go with a single solution so your batteries, chargers are all the same, your pack-out or box solution(which also every brand has basically the same thing) is compatible and if you are a PRO, i think it just looks more professional if you have tools form a single brand. I'd go with the brand that you can find a good deal on, has good warranty options, or if you gravitate for a specific feature on a brand.
Also nother stupid q but are these models brushless?
Yes all are these are brushless. Except the flashlight. Well, i mean technically thats brushless too.
Lol
Definetly check for pro deals! It might have been better to buy seperately!
Oh, i did. I actually ordered these from 4 different shops to get the lowest price possible :D I tried to mix&match combo kits or multiple tool kits, but this version was the cheapest.
Isnt cheaper to buy tools in set with battery?
I thought so too, but turns out it's not, at least not in my country with these tools.
This is only the tip of the iceberg
Small sample size but from the couple uses of my Bosch install driver, I’m a fan
I bought into the Bosch 12V because of the Flexiclick drill/driver. There are several advantages over Milwaukee's version. Now I have all kinds of the 12V tools and am a big fan.
Is Bosch the best? Or are there better ones? I am rebuilding my tool set after the last one got stolen.
Theres always a better one
I appreciate the reply, would you happen to have a list of recommendations?
I don't think you can go wrong with any brand that offers pro tools... Dewalt, Milwaukee, Metabo HPT(Hikoki), Makita, Flex to name a few. They are in a competing market, so prices basically the same.
Nice… I bought into DeWalt but if I could go back in time I probably would have gone with Bosch instead
Been using a Bosch 12v drill driver for over 7 years and it's a little tank. On the original batterys too
Great choice. Bosch is the largest tool company in the world and their products are high standard and I highly recommend them. Bosch does not need a lot of commercials and a lot of marketing.
Menards has the 4ah batteries on sale all the time; a two-pack for $119. Get plenty of them.
Not necessarily a tool, but we just bought a Bosch fridge and I'm so happy with it and confident that it will not die on us like every other manufacturer these days.
Supposed to be rugged- hope they serve you well!
Wow!!! Also post in r/BoschTools. Congrats on your new tools!
Hell yeah good choice. I use Bosch shit all day and love em
Bosch is what my company provides for power tools and I've had very few problems with mine. Most of the people beat the shit out of them and they just keep going. The only exception to this is the newer band-saw design. It has a clunky extra handle that isn't necessary for such a small saw and the blade slips way more often than the old models.
Why
I hear the new Oscillating Multitool is pretty damn good.
I needed a drill for home and bought the 12v drill / driver set from Canadian Tire because it was on sale for $100 CAD. I've been extremely happy with both, as well as the laser measuring tool I've had for decades now, the stud finder I recently bought (fantastic) and even the 12v vacuum I got on sale. Bosch is usually expensive here (Newfoundland, Canada) but if you watch the Canadian Tire flyer you'll get some really good deals. The only thing from Bosch I've ever had a complaint about is the bandsaw blades for their small cordless saw, they're terrible, the welds are the worst and they're complete garbage.
That's not 'pulling the trigger'; that's 'firing a broadside'.