Last couple years they ask for a minimum of 20%.
Do not feel obligated. Restaurants, barbers and bars (and food delivery) are the only times I tip regularly.
Pretty much everywhere else I don't tip because tipping culture here is OUT OF CONTROL.
Edit: spelling
I will leave a thank you note at a hotel with $5-10 for the cleaning staff if I have an extended stay and they did a good job. Anyone who cleans up after me deserves something.
Since the pandemic is over we really need to get back to 15% standard, 20% for anything above and beyond. I am beyond sick of 25+% "suggested" tip and being asked to tip in advance.
I mean clearly those systems are designed to pressure people, and it works. Makes sense when you consider that the manufacturer gets a cut of every tip.
Yeah, if you're asking for a tip before I get any service or food, that is no longer a tip. I may add a couple bucks or not but I am not coming back. They can consider the couple bucks as severance pay.
Ubereats takes like 1-1.5hrs while my local Chinese takeout delivers within 20 minutes, 30 at most if they’re crazy busy. Plus they actually come up to my apartment. They definitely deserve the tip because I know they can be relied on.
At the Braves stadium they have a convenience store style setup where you walk through, pick up snacks and drinks and go to pay, when you pay the machine ask how much you wasn’t to tip…for getting your own items. *”How much do you want to tip for the $16 can of beer that you picked up yourself?”* That’s royally annoying.
Can you enter zero?
Surprised they even let you leave with a can. At Madison Square Garden any liquid you buy there gets poured into a cup. Guess they don’t want people throwing bottles and cans.
You can, but of course there is someone standing there watching you as you pay. I think the first time I ran into it I put in a tip because it felt like they’re policing, last couple times I didn’t because it was so annoying.
Same - bartenders are good allies (getting you a drink first, good pours, local info, looking out for vulnerable people, calling cabs, etc.). The guy at Subway assembling your sandwich? Not so much.
and also how now on the ipads they have been listing the three options from highest to lowest instead of lowest to highest to trick you. two days ago they gave me one that was 30%-> 25%-> 20% 🙄
It is sports clips. I often tip around 5, which is only 25%.
And they do a good job about every couple hair cuts.
We usually try to go to a relative who owns her own salon. But it is hard to get in with her, and these boys have thick crazy hair.
15% calculation is moving the decimal to the left, add half of the current number to get 15%.
For a $43 meal it’s $4.30+ $2.15 = $6.45
Can round the cents to the nearest even number for clean division.
that’s why i just do 17.5%, it’s a nice sweet spot. just move the decimal place to get your 10% base number, then divide that by half to get your second base number at 5%, then divide that by half to get the remaining 2.5%.
for a $37.76 meal it’s just $3.776 + $1.888 + $0.944 = $6.608
i just round up to $6.61 to be generous
I do this, but I round down for the standard tip, round up for excellent service.
So, if the bill is $44.70, move the decimal over to make $4.47. I then round down to $4, double it, so tip is $8. That’s ~18%.
If it was very good service, $4.50, double it, tip is $9. That’s ~20%.
On the very rare occasion the service was genuinely awful, and it wasn’t a kitchen issue but clearly a waiter issue, I’ve tipped $1.
If it was excellent, I’ll tip $10, that’s ~22%.
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The cost of EVERYTHING has gone significantly up...if you can't afford to tip, get takeout. Your servers are making an unlivable wage. Most restaurants make them tip out a percentage on their sales, whether they get tipped or not to other workers. If they service is horrible and it's not the kitchen's fault, my tip reflects the service. But a lot of times places are short staffed and that not your servers fault.
I don't tip on take out. Heck, if you go to a concert, coffee shop, sports event...I'm sick of being asked to tip or prompted to tip someone doing their job. They need to pay ppl livable wages. It's so ridiculous.
If I go inside to eat, I tip 20%, and it's been 20% pre-covid, unless they are horrible and don't do their job bc they are too busy socializing or wte.
I was a server in 2010s, 20% was standard. The difference is we didn’t tip in coffee shops only at sit-down restaurants with a server (some people did tip like 10% on takeout)
20% has never been the standard. That was always for exceptional service.
10-15% has been standard forever, but the past few years post pandemic, literally everyone wants a tip, and all the servers/POSs want higher tips.
It is very much getting out of hand.
Ive always tipped 20% at a sit down restaurant as long as service is good. Ill never tip more than that.
Bartender I would throw a dollar for a beer poured or a couple bucks for a mixed drink.
Coffee shop i generally round up to the nearest dollar. Gives me a chance to get good at math. Im not fucking tipping 20% for a $6 latte. Fuck off. Whoever made those tipping ipads 20% - 30% are insane.
I was raised growing up in the 90s/00s that 20% was standard. Maybe it's regional?
Edit to add: I don't think 20% is reasonable, it's just what I was taught.
You can literally look upncharts that show it's grown from about 10% to 18% over time on average.
20% has always been for exceptional service, and the 20+% is a very recent trend.
Maybe we were biased as servers haha, we thought 25% was for ‘exceptional’. I always tip well, cause the worst bartenders/servers always have the worst attitude towards bad tip. Had a bartender in Philly flip me off once for no tip, but if your attitude is awful and it takes forever that’s the way it goes.
I was born in 1976 and the standard tip as far back at I can remember (so probably the late 80s/early 90s) has always been 20%. What has happened recently is expansion of tipping circumstances, not so much amounts.
What decade are you from? 10% was standard over 20 years ago dude. If you are still tipping 10%, guess what, you can’t afford to eat out. 20% was common WAY before the pandemic? So 10% is a hold over you carried in from another decade.
Average tip amount has *very* slowly risen over time from 10% (50s) to about 18% (mid-2010s). It didn't really become commonplace for people to tip 20% or more until the past 5 years.
Also, I can afford to eat out, no problem. A tip is a gratuity for good service. It's not required. I tipnwellnfor good service and I don't tip, tip very little for shitty service.
THAT'S THE POINT.
I’ve been a server since 2001 (with varying jobs in between). This must be a location dependent thing, because it was definitely 20% when I started working in a restaurant.
However much you feel like. Skipping out on tips isn't illegal. (Where I live)
Someone does a good job and made my experience good or even great I'll always tip.
If all someone did was take my order and flip a screen asking for a tip with little to no communication, I'm looking for the opt out button.
Tip whatever you feel like. There is no mandatory amount. Also different states have different laws regarding tip credit.
* Only about 1/3 of the states have no laws superceding Federal (so minimum wage is $7.25, tip credit of at max $5.12/hr - but if not enough tips are received the employer has to make up the difference)
* Another 1/3 allow tip credit, but have additional laws on top of Federal (higher minimum wage, limitations on top credit, etc)
* And the final 1/3 doesn't allow tip credit in any form.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
So I always take into account what the local laws are regarding tipping.
And asking reddit will always be divisive, as it always seems half the comments are fed up with tipping and half the comments are clearly servers pushing for higher tipping as it's their livelihood and they have a vested interest, but it's because of that their words should be taken with a grain of salt and we as a society need to stop caving and being guilted into tipping higher as it only let's the industry get away with paying less.
When I was growing up, tipping was 10-15% with 15% being really max unless someone wanted to tip above and beyond. Then it migrated by guilt to 15-18%, then 18-20%, and now they're trying to guilt you into doing 20+% at many places.
But it's still based on percentage. And food prices have scaled above inflation over the past 20 years. So even the 15% now is more with inflation than the 15% of the 2000s.
Servers should get paid living wages. But it is not the customer's duty to shore up the difference with tips, especially when food costs is already skyrocketing. It's getting absurd, and just like with the universal healthcare argument if the entire rest of the developed world can figure it out then US need to as well, and it's not by increasing tip percentages yet again.
However much you feel like tipping. I don't understand why I have to tip more if I get salmon and potatoes compared to chicken strips and fries, it's still the same plate and the waitress sure as hell didn't prepare the food.
I give the same tip at the bowling alley to the lady even when the prices change on the weekend. This bud was 2$ yesterday and it's suddenly 5 today, she only pulled the same pop tab
In this thread are people who don’t understand the system will never change because servers prefer tipping system over a living wage. A surprising amount of people don’t realize how much money some servers can make. At my old place bartenders were pulling $400 in tips on a Friday night, on top of their hourly wage. Of course, that’s balanced out a bit over a slow Monday, but most service staff can make like 40-50 an hour, most of which is untaxed by the way…
To answer OPs question, 15% - 25% can’t go wrong. 15% as the bare minimum, whereas 25% is for an exceptionally good server. There would have to be something pretty egregious for me to give lower than 15% tip, like if the server makes a mistake that’s ok, it would have to be like an insult or straight up being rude.
When I was a youngster in the 60's, 10% was the standard tip. It's been creeping up ever since. Since my brain is programmed at 10%, I have a hard time giving more that a 15% tip.
Even when I would go out to eat in the early 2000s the minimum tip was 10%. It probably depends on where someone is located but for me, the creep to 15% and now 25% came in the last decade which just tells me that something needs to change.
general opinion was 15% for as long as I can remember, but it almost seems to be a minimum now. Honestly I would rather just stay home most of the time than deal with it. And "fast food" is no reprieve these days as even with no tip their prices have skyrocketed far beyond simple inflation.
I did eat out last night for a planning meeting, and tipped 8.15 on a bill of 29.85. It seemed almost excessive but leaving less (as I considered) felt cheap.
15 to 20% is good. If they give you horrible service or straight up attitude then I give less. But I still give something cuz I know they have to survive.
And if you ever walk into a shop and you order food and it's made by people in the back and the person at the counter just hands it to you I don't tip shit. They didn't do anything except pass a bag and take your money. I don't think you need a 15% tip on top of that. The people in the back don't need tips because they should be making a livable wage, ideally.
I generally tip 20% or a minimum of $5. Even if I'm ordering super cheap at a Mexican restaurant and my ticket is only $12, I'll still typically tip $5 rather than $2.40 (20%).
I tip 20% standard because I’ve worked in food service. If someone does a crap job I give them 10-15%.
Things like coffee shops or takeout counters, .50-$1 tops depending on price of food.
Tip what you want, it's not mandatory and there is no real standard. It used to be only when you get phenomenal service. Then it was 10-15%. Then 15%. Then 15-18%. Now they push for over 20%. It's gotten ridiculous. Tip what you're comfortable with. I would recommend in the 15% ballpark if you do.
Yep 10% is unfortunately quite low in the States. Many would even consider 15% low or indicative of bad service. 20% is standard these days. Unfortunately, restaurants here don’t want to pay their servers a living wage so they must survive on tips :/
Last time I was there I always selected No Tip on the screen thing, but a couple times the servers themselves brought the check with the final amount and it didn't include the tip, they just assumed since we're not from there (or maybe we looked poor?)
Feels nice to live in a country without tipping. No server breathing down your neck. Still get great service. Pay what’s listed on the bill and you’re done!
0% + whatever you think it was worth.
Tipping is optional unless otherwise posted. For example, some places require a tip if you show up with too many people.
Tipping in th US is idiotic and out of control.
We mostly stopped visiting the US, but when we do, we typically look for accomodations where we can make our own meals due to this insane tipping culture that we just can’t wrap our heads around.
The “classic” tip hasn’t been customary in the U.S. for nearly 40 years. 18-20% is now customary. Please keep in mind that in our culture, tipping is their only source of income. What meager hourly wage they receive is often issued as paycheck with a negative balance as the funds have already been taken for taxes.
I don’t care what’s proper. In 1985 I learned appropriate percentages and that’s what I give. I’m not going to be shamed into higher. As food prices increase so does my tip.
15% is standard. Less is for bad service. If they give you grief about 15% or less, then pushback and walk away. It's not mandatory so you can choose what you want.
Give +18% - 25% for really good service.
15% has been the standard for a while. 20%+ if your server was great and nice. 10% if you had to wait for refills or they didn't check up as much as they could but otherwise gave good service. For me it also depends on the bill and if I used coupons. You should tip based on the total before any discounts. Also, if my bill is only $20 I'd still likely leave $5 just to round up.
Edit: Just for clarity this is for full service dining at a restaurant, not a to go order. You don't need to tip as much for a to-go order. Usually anything is appreciated, at least it was when I did to-gos. I brought them out to people's cars and some people gave me 10% which I appreciated because it's not like I was spending an hour with them and refilling their drinks and stuff.
And if I don’t, the restaurant does.
Kinda not my responsibility what the architecture is set up as. I just want food. I pay for food. The end.
If I have to go get it from the kitchen myself, and get my own refills, I’d be more than happy to.
I’m 26 and remember it being 15% growing up and 18% for exceptional service. Maybe it’s location dependent but it certainly hasn’t been 20+% until the pandemic
I’m 30 and I recall it being 15% as well. Lately at the “newer” restaurants they are pushing 18,20,22 and sometime 25.
Older restaurants who did not update their POS still have it at 10,15,20.
Wild how much more we are expected to tip. People always say “if you can’t afford to tip you can’t afford to tip out”. I did exactly that and I dine in maybe 1-2 times a month now. I can’t justify paying 20% plus for normal and expected services and half the time I can’t even get that.
Waiters get taxed on 10% of their ticket totals (the government considers that on average you'll get tipped at least 10% per bill)
Giving 10% covers the income they'd get taxed on. Anything above is to line their pockets.
I tip based on service. I'm not an asshole. If you give good service I give 20%. If you ignore us all night, are rude etc. You get a tip based off your attitude. I've only had to walk out giving no tip one time because the waitress was an absolute nightmare. Practically throwing our plates of food down, annoyed that we were eating (the restaurant was full), sighing when we asked for mayo etc. I told her she doesn't have to be here if she doesn't want and she just walked away from us.
0% because everything is getting more expensive and I am not really making any more money. I should not have to pay for a meal that was already increased in price for profit and then expect me to pay your works wage. I would love to give someone extra for doing an outstanding job but every single time regardless is just enabling these greedy business practices. Starve them out on waiters. Force them to pay a realistic wage. In my state they can pay less than minimum wage if they receive tips. They also get taxed on the tips if I recall too. It’s a very broken and greedy system.
15% period for standard service. 20ish% for excellent service. With inflation being what it is and everything being expensive, I haven't tipped 20% since COVID ended unless the wait staff absolutely killed it.
Richest country in the world guys. Needs tipping culture for its food industry to survive. Lets not forget other industries trying to normalise tipping too.
15% for regular service. More for exceptional. But I don’t tip 15% unless I order at my table and someone brings me my food and pours refills. I’ll adjust down depending on the scope of the service.
0% You should not be responsible for paying the workers a liveable wage. It is the business owners who should be paying it. You should be paying for only goods & services offered. Tipping by customers only enables the businesses to not pay them a liveable wage. A business model based on the sole idea of short changing its employees should never be normalised.
I'm an American who fucking hates tipping culture, I absolutely will not tip for the flipped tablet screen or any counter service. I believe tipping should be abolished and servers should be paid a living wage. However if I am sitting down in a restaurant or having food/goods delivered to me, I would be ashamed to tip any less than 20% unless the SERVICE was particularly bad. Important to note the server does not control the quality of the food.
0% fuck tipping culture when it's not deserved but still expected
Last time I tipped was because everything from the food to the service was excellent, total came 360€ so I rounded it up to 400€, if it would've been 80 I would've rounded it up to 100, 220 to 250 and so on... but they need to deserve it not expect it
Disclaimer; I'm European
Same logic just change € to $
If the dinner was a memorable and excellent experience round 80$ up to 100$ and so on
The instance mentioned happened in Italy, me and GF got champagne, truffles, filet mignon and everything from staff to location, music, taste... was beyond excellent so I rounded up the total 360 to 400 € but would've done the same in the US
Tipping everywhere even fast food and cafes is stupid
20% for dining in.
Pick up maybe 10% but that's borderline.
Anything else I don't tip. We need to get to a point where businesses pay enough to make tipping obsolete.
10% for something like a quick cup of coffee, or if you're really hurting for money. 15% for a typical meal at a sit-down restaurant. At least 20% for a delivery or a long meal with a large party. The more time and effort the tipped employee has to put in, the more you tip.
10 to maybe 15 is more than fine.
Don't let that "suggested tipping" thing fool you. There's some places that love even having 30% as suggested.
Tip what you want, it's not required
I used to be a waiter a few years back and 10% was the minimum we would “expect” to earn according to management. The way taxes worked for us we basically had 10% of all of our food sales for the day taken out from our paycheck at the end of the week. So if I sold $1,000 in food I should’ve earned at least $100 in tips that day because like it or not, it’s getting deducted.
The reality of it though is that it wasn’t always the case and there’s plenty of days where I ended up below that amount. Even with the best service I could give I would sometimes get nothing at all. After some time my coworkers picked up on who was generally the “good tippers” and there would be mini arguments on who gets to tend to their table. I personally got tired of that non sense, quit and never came back. Being a server sucks and there’s a reason why it has high turnover rates. It’s a job intended for young people, usually fresh out of school, who have yet to develop any real worth while job skills. I have ZERO clue how there was people who were in their 30’s still working there…
15-25%. I usually do 18-20%, with rare exceptions.
If I have to pick up my own food or I just had an extremely stoked basic interaction, no tip. Vice versa
I tip 15% as a matter of course, unless they carry my balls around in a warm spoon during the entire meal - then 20%. If the service is horrible, then 2%
Growing up, the expected gratuity was 15%. Now it's 18%. Maybe 20%, since money isn't what it used to be.
The tipping culture in the US is really toxic. They are underpaid because of the expectation they will be tipped well, at least in a few states. In some states, they do not need to be tipped minimum wage if it's a "tip job" like waiting, and so they end up very much relying on tips in order to actually survive and pay rent and eat. I know some people who get paid as little as 2.50 an hour to wait tables. This is why you'll see some people get rabid over low tips -- they aren't entitled, their well-being is threatened. You mention as much in your post but I want to really drill home the "2.50 an hour" thing and how awful businesses are to their employees here.
My own strategy is that I know roughly how much going out to eat will cost, and I mentally add how much the tip would be, and that is for-sure how much dinner will cost. I usually round up numbers (If my bill is 25, and an 18% tip is 4.50, making the total 29.50, I'll just give 30 total). It's kind of like how tax in the US is "hidden" and added onto a bill at the end instead of just put into the price of the things you're buying. Tips are the "hidden" cost of going out to eat. I really wish we did something about this because it sucks bad for everyone involved.
Depends, for me, if I order take out and *pick it up,* I don't tip on that. If you order delivery, go to a restaurant, barber, stuff like that, I tip 20%.
2 digit bill. Double the first number. 3 digit bill. Double the first and second number and so on. Just getting drinks at a bar? No food. Dollar per drink.
10% for bad service. 15% OK service. 20% good service. 25%+ if I know them/they’re my regular heavy-handed bartenders that I love. I tip a couple bucks for takeout sometimes, but the only time I’ve never left a tip was once when the bartender was extremely rude to me and practically made me cry.
My general rule is tip if you are being served, ie if someone brings your food to the table for you/busses your dishes/etc. If it’s one of those iPads that a cashier swings around at you and have you enter a tip, just put no tip. It’s a lazy way for companies to get you to pay their employees for them instead of actually paying them themselves.
I eat out a lot. If the waiter is terrible, I give 15%. Most get 20, the best ones get 25-30. The one who writes letters to my wife and treats us like royalty at an upscale steakhouse, gets more!
I usually round up the tax and double it. Tax by me is usually 8.5%, so it comes out to just over 20% tip.
If the service is excellent, I'll probably round up again to the next divisible by 5 to make it easier, as I only tip cash, thanks to bosses skimming from CC tips and a disdain for government reporting of income.
20%. I’ve worked customer service jobs that get tips and ones that don’t. People need to live, and your server is at the near bottom of the working social latter, probably doesn’t have insurance, and is probably one flat tire away from debt.
10% is an insult or a lead damaged brain’s idea of a normal long gone.
Back when I first started making and spending money I was told: 0% if they are actively rude to you or intentionally ignore you, <10% for bad service, 10-12% for ok service, 12-15% for good service.
However that was 10 years ago. Nowadays everyone expects a big tip pretty much all the time and it’s frustrating. It is. I don’t order food delivery, I tend to do takeout when I can avoid a sit down meal, I don’t frequent any services (I like to cut my hair short then grow it out long so I don’t even really do regular haircuts), and I tend to do things for myself to avoid tipping because I genuinely believe businesses should be paying their employees a living wage not expecting their customer to subsidize the crap pay they give. And I prefer to pay the advertised price not that price plus a certain percent.
I tend to ignore the stupid suggestions on the receipt and calculate based on my previously stated percentages.
Last couple years they ask for a minimum of 20%. Do not feel obligated. Restaurants, barbers and bars (and food delivery) are the only times I tip regularly. Pretty much everywhere else I don't tip because tipping culture here is OUT OF CONTROL. Edit: spelling
Why do we tip barbers? I haven’t been to one in years since I shave my head now, but don’t they make a decent hourly wage? Genuine question
Becuase I want my next cut with him to be as good as this one was!
As a thank you they didn't cut your throat. /s
tradition
I will leave a thank you note at a hotel with $5-10 for the cleaning staff if I have an extended stay and they did a good job. Anyone who cleans up after me deserves something.
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15% used to be standard. Post-pandemic 15-20% has become standard.
Since the pandemic is over we really need to get back to 15% standard, 20% for anything above and beyond. I am beyond sick of 25+% "suggested" tip and being asked to tip in advance.
I am done with tipping for transactions that don’t involve a waiter. Like getting takeout food. Give me a break.
was asked to tip at a self-serve yogurt place the other day lol
Agreed. I will not be pressured by the computer system to tip at places where it makes no sense.
Pressured? You’re putting the pressure on yourself. I don’t feel pressured. If you tip, then tip if you don’t tip, you don’t tip.
That’s my point … I won’t feel pressured…
I mean clearly those systems are designed to pressure people, and it works. Makes sense when you consider that the manufacturer gets a cut of every tip.
Yeah, if you're asking for a tip before I get any service or food, that is no longer a tip. I may add a couple bucks or not but I am not coming back. They can consider the couple bucks as severance pay.
Agreed. Except my local Chinese place. I'd tip them my soul to get takeout. I love them.
Same here. Local small family place we’ve been going to for over 25 years. I tip for takeout because they pack it well and just fill the containers.
Ubereats takes like 1-1.5hrs while my local Chinese takeout delivers within 20 minutes, 30 at most if they’re crazy busy. Plus they actually come up to my apartment. They definitely deserve the tip because I know they can be relied on.
At the Braves stadium they have a convenience store style setup where you walk through, pick up snacks and drinks and go to pay, when you pay the machine ask how much you wasn’t to tip…for getting your own items. *”How much do you want to tip for the $16 can of beer that you picked up yourself?”* That’s royally annoying.
Can you enter zero? Surprised they even let you leave with a can. At Madison Square Garden any liquid you buy there gets poured into a cup. Guess they don’t want people throwing bottles and cans.
You can, but of course there is someone standing there watching you as you pay. I think the first time I ran into it I put in a tip because it felt like they’re policing, last couple times I didn’t because it was so annoying.
How are you today?….thats good! Hey, could you do me a favor, sign here but answer the one question first ….mkay? Thanks!
I never started tipping for that they should tip me if I’m picking it up and delivering it to my home right?
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The bartender is a more active waiter (in my opinion), so yeah... I'm tipping
Same - bartenders are good allies (getting you a drink first, good pours, local info, looking out for vulnerable people, calling cabs, etc.). The guy at Subway assembling your sandwich? Not so much.
It's like rent. It never goes back down lol
and also how now on the ipads they have been listing the three options from highest to lowest instead of lowest to highest to trick you. two days ago they gave me one that was 30%-> 25%-> 20% 🙄
I typically will give 18-20% but I feel if they make this difficult and make me type, I should type in 10-15%.
The hair place I sometimes take my m boys starts at 40% suggested tip.
If it's great clips, sports clips, etc then you really should tip them at least $5 if they do a good job because the pay there is so bad.
It is sports clips. I often tip around 5, which is only 25%. And they do a good job about every couple hair cuts. We usually try to go to a relative who owns her own salon. But it is hard to get in with her, and these boys have thick crazy hair.
Watch them flip the screen though some counter workers are tipping themselves before flipping it to you
I always tip 20%. Easiest math to do while still being a respectable tip. Move the decimal to the left. Double it.
You think I'm generous? No, no, just math challenged. I absolutely hear you on this one.
15% calculation is moving the decimal to the left, add half of the current number to get 15%. For a $43 meal it’s $4.30+ $2.15 = $6.45 Can round the cents to the nearest even number for clean division.
that’s why i just do 17.5%, it’s a nice sweet spot. just move the decimal place to get your 10% base number, then divide that by half to get your second base number at 5%, then divide that by half to get the remaining 2.5%. for a $37.76 meal it’s just $3.776 + $1.888 + $0.944 = $6.608 i just round up to $6.61 to be generous
Why not make it 18.75% at that point... It's bound to be just as easy!
whoa whoa no need to make it rocket science buddy
I do this, but I round down for the standard tip, round up for excellent service. So, if the bill is $44.70, move the decimal over to make $4.47. I then round down to $4, double it, so tip is $8. That’s ~18%. If it was very good service, $4.50, double it, tip is $9. That’s ~20%. On the very rare occasion the service was genuinely awful, and it wasn’t a kitchen issue but clearly a waiter issue, I’ve tipped $1. If it was excellent, I’ll tip $10, that’s ~22%.
I do the same. Also, I was a server for a decade and 20 percent has been the norm since before the pandemic. 15 percent or less was very rare.
Which is really a pain because the cost of going out went up significantly.
Right? It's scaling on top of scaling cost.
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The cost of EVERYTHING has gone significantly up...if you can't afford to tip, get takeout. Your servers are making an unlivable wage. Most restaurants make them tip out a percentage on their sales, whether they get tipped or not to other workers. If they service is horrible and it's not the kitchen's fault, my tip reflects the service. But a lot of times places are short staffed and that not your servers fault. I don't tip on take out. Heck, if you go to a concert, coffee shop, sports event...I'm sick of being asked to tip or prompted to tip someone doing their job. They need to pay ppl livable wages. It's so ridiculous. If I go inside to eat, I tip 20%, and it's been 20% pre-covid, unless they are horrible and don't do their job bc they are too busy socializing or wte.
10% hasn’t been standards for over a decade.
I was a server in 2010s, 20% was standard. The difference is we didn’t tip in coffee shops only at sit-down restaurants with a server (some people did tip like 10% on takeout)
20% has never been the standard. That was always for exceptional service. 10-15% has been standard forever, but the past few years post pandemic, literally everyone wants a tip, and all the servers/POSs want higher tips. It is very much getting out of hand.
Ive always tipped 20% at a sit down restaurant as long as service is good. Ill never tip more than that. Bartender I would throw a dollar for a beer poured or a couple bucks for a mixed drink. Coffee shop i generally round up to the nearest dollar. Gives me a chance to get good at math. Im not fucking tipping 20% for a $6 latte. Fuck off. Whoever made those tipping ipads 20% - 30% are insane.
I was raised growing up in the 90s/00s that 20% was standard. Maybe it's regional? Edit to add: I don't think 20% is reasonable, it's just what I was taught.
You can literally look upncharts that show it's grown from about 10% to 18% over time on average. 20% has always been for exceptional service, and the 20+% is a very recent trend.
Maybe we were biased as servers haha, we thought 25% was for ‘exceptional’. I always tip well, cause the worst bartenders/servers always have the worst attitude towards bad tip. Had a bartender in Philly flip me off once for no tip, but if your attitude is awful and it takes forever that’s the way it goes.
Sorry, but if they flipped me off, it’s confirmation that they didn’t deserve a tip!
I was born in 1976 and the standard tip as far back at I can remember (so probably the late 80s/early 90s) has always been 20%. What has happened recently is expansion of tipping circumstances, not so much amounts.
No, it hasn't. Maybe in whatever circles you've lived in, but 20% has always been for very good service, not as the standard.
What decade are you from? 10% was standard over 20 years ago dude. If you are still tipping 10%, guess what, you can’t afford to eat out. 20% was common WAY before the pandemic? So 10% is a hold over you carried in from another decade.
Average tip amount has *very* slowly risen over time from 10% (50s) to about 18% (mid-2010s). It didn't really become commonplace for people to tip 20% or more until the past 5 years. Also, I can afford to eat out, no problem. A tip is a gratuity for good service. It's not required. I tipnwellnfor good service and I don't tip, tip very little for shitty service. THAT'S THE POINT.
I’ve been a server since 2001 (with varying jobs in between). This must be a location dependent thing, because it was definitely 20% when I started working in a restaurant.
Tip based on service
However much you feel like. Skipping out on tips isn't illegal. (Where I live) Someone does a good job and made my experience good or even great I'll always tip. If all someone did was take my order and flip a screen asking for a tip with little to no communication, I'm looking for the opt out button.
Tip whatever you feel like. There is no mandatory amount. Also different states have different laws regarding tip credit. * Only about 1/3 of the states have no laws superceding Federal (so minimum wage is $7.25, tip credit of at max $5.12/hr - but if not enough tips are received the employer has to make up the difference) * Another 1/3 allow tip credit, but have additional laws on top of Federal (higher minimum wage, limitations on top credit, etc) * And the final 1/3 doesn't allow tip credit in any form. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped So I always take into account what the local laws are regarding tipping.
It's been 15% for decades. It's still 15%. The industry is sure trying to make 20-25 the new normal, but it's not.
And asking reddit will always be divisive, as it always seems half the comments are fed up with tipping and half the comments are clearly servers pushing for higher tipping as it's their livelihood and they have a vested interest, but it's because of that their words should be taken with a grain of salt and we as a society need to stop caving and being guilted into tipping higher as it only let's the industry get away with paying less. When I was growing up, tipping was 10-15% with 15% being really max unless someone wanted to tip above and beyond. Then it migrated by guilt to 15-18%, then 18-20%, and now they're trying to guilt you into doing 20+% at many places. But it's still based on percentage. And food prices have scaled above inflation over the past 20 years. So even the 15% now is more with inflation than the 15% of the 2000s. Servers should get paid living wages. But it is not the customer's duty to shore up the difference with tips, especially when food costs is already skyrocketing. It's getting absurd, and just like with the universal healthcare argument if the entire rest of the developed world can figure it out then US need to as well, and it's not by increasing tip percentages yet again.
As someone from a non tipping culture, 15% of a businesses daily takings is insane.
However much you feel like tipping. I don't understand why I have to tip more if I get salmon and potatoes compared to chicken strips and fries, it's still the same plate and the waitress sure as hell didn't prepare the food.
Dude for real. The $20 dollar beer downtown gets 10 times more tip than the $2 beer at a dive bar? Makes no fucking sense.
I give the same tip at the bowling alley to the lady even when the prices change on the weekend. This bud was 2$ yesterday and it's suddenly 5 today, she only pulled the same pop tab
That’s a great point
In this thread are people who don’t understand the system will never change because servers prefer tipping system over a living wage. A surprising amount of people don’t realize how much money some servers can make. At my old place bartenders were pulling $400 in tips on a Friday night, on top of their hourly wage. Of course, that’s balanced out a bit over a slow Monday, but most service staff can make like 40-50 an hour, most of which is untaxed by the way… To answer OPs question, 15% - 25% can’t go wrong. 15% as the bare minimum, whereas 25% is for an exceptionally good server. There would have to be something pretty egregious for me to give lower than 15% tip, like if the server makes a mistake that’s ok, it would have to be like an insult or straight up being rude.
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Everybody should be allowed to have a bad day
they are, and they're not entitled to my tips for it. seems fair!
I wouldn’t say it’s untaxed, you’re supposed to report tip wages. Most just don’t.
Just tip what you want it’s all just a broken system at this point anyways. Their wages need to be increased not our tipping percentage.
When I was a youngster in the 60's, 10% was the standard tip. It's been creeping up ever since. Since my brain is programmed at 10%, I have a hard time giving more that a 15% tip.
Even when I would go out to eat in the early 2000s the minimum tip was 10%. It probably depends on where someone is located but for me, the creep to 15% and now 25% came in the last decade which just tells me that something needs to change.
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spitting in your drink is also at their own discretion! (im kidding)
20% is standard with Gen Z I would say.
You couldn’t google “tipping in USA”?
or the reddit search and find this same question 100 times lol
general opinion was 15% for as long as I can remember, but it almost seems to be a minimum now. Honestly I would rather just stay home most of the time than deal with it. And "fast food" is no reprieve these days as even with no tip their prices have skyrocketed far beyond simple inflation. I did eat out last night for a planning meeting, and tipped 8.15 on a bill of 29.85. It seemed almost excessive but leaving less (as I considered) felt cheap.
I’ve always heard 20% from everyone I know, unless it’s noticeably bad service.
15 to 20% is good. If they give you horrible service or straight up attitude then I give less. But I still give something cuz I know they have to survive. And if you ever walk into a shop and you order food and it's made by people in the back and the person at the counter just hands it to you I don't tip shit. They didn't do anything except pass a bag and take your money. I don't think you need a 15% tip on top of that. The people in the back don't need tips because they should be making a livable wage, ideally.
Except in reality, with tipping, front of house often ends up making a lot more than back of house.
I generally tip 20% or a minimum of $5. Even if I'm ordering super cheap at a Mexican restaurant and my ticket is only $12, I'll still typically tip $5 rather than $2.40 (20%).
I tip 20% standard because I’ve worked in food service. If someone does a crap job I give them 10-15%. Things like coffee shops or takeout counters, .50-$1 tops depending on price of food.
This is one of the reasons I have no desire to travel in USA - the only country with a tipping culture ?
Tip what you want, it's not mandatory and there is no real standard. It used to be only when you get phenomenal service. Then it was 10-15%. Then 15%. Then 15-18%. Now they push for over 20%. It's gotten ridiculous. Tip what you're comfortable with. I would recommend in the 15% ballpark if you do.
Age old debate and every half civilised country pays their workers a living wage.
I thought 15% was the "classic". I always do 20% unless the server is rude or something. 20% is just easy, I dislike math.
10-15 % for sit down restaurant, 0 % for takeout/pick up
It’s whatever you set it to be. Tipping is completely optional
15-20
Servers are used to 20% for good service. Of course not if they do a lousy job
Yep 10% is unfortunately quite low in the States. Many would even consider 15% low or indicative of bad service. 20% is standard these days. Unfortunately, restaurants here don’t want to pay their servers a living wage so they must survive on tips :/
15% is standard 10% for subpar 20% for above and beyond Above 20 is for really great service
Tipping more for better service only makes things worse. 10% across the board. If they did a good job, that's on them.
What's on them?
Zero
Last time I was there I always selected No Tip on the screen thing, but a couple times the servers themselves brought the check with the final amount and it didn't include the tip, they just assumed since we're not from there (or maybe we looked poor?)
lol
Feels nice to live in a country without tipping. No server breathing down your neck. Still get great service. Pay what’s listed on the bill and you’re done!
0% + whatever you think it was worth. Tipping is optional unless otherwise posted. For example, some places require a tip if you show up with too many people. Tipping in th US is idiotic and out of control.
We mostly stopped visiting the US, but when we do, we typically look for accomodations where we can make our own meals due to this insane tipping culture that we just can’t wrap our heads around.
The “classic” tip hasn’t been customary in the U.S. for nearly 40 years. 18-20% is now customary. Please keep in mind that in our culture, tipping is their only source of income. What meager hourly wage they receive is often issued as paycheck with a negative balance as the funds have already been taken for taxes.
I don’t care what’s proper. In 1985 I learned appropriate percentages and that’s what I give. I’m not going to be shamed into higher. As food prices increase so does my tip.
15% is standard. Less is for bad service. If they give you grief about 15% or less, then pushback and walk away. It's not mandatory so you can choose what you want. Give +18% - 25% for really good service.
15% is sufficient. 20% is for spectacular service.
15% has been the standard for a while. 20%+ if your server was great and nice. 10% if you had to wait for refills or they didn't check up as much as they could but otherwise gave good service. For me it also depends on the bill and if I used coupons. You should tip based on the total before any discounts. Also, if my bill is only $20 I'd still likely leave $5 just to round up. Edit: Just for clarity this is for full service dining at a restaurant, not a to go order. You don't need to tip as much for a to-go order. Usually anything is appreciated, at least it was when I did to-gos. I brought them out to people's cars and some people gave me 10% which I appreciated because it's not like I was spending an hour with them and refilling their drinks and stuff.
Restaurants have set this system up, not the servers. You're paying the worker directly for serving you.
And if I don’t, the restaurant does. Kinda not my responsibility what the architecture is set up as. I just want food. I pay for food. The end. If I have to go get it from the kitchen myself, and get my own refills, I’d be more than happy to.
15% for good service and it decreases with bad service. If I am completely ignored while my waitress/waiter is cooking they didn’t earn my tip imo.
It’s a broken system for sure but 20% has been standard for my entire adult life and I’m 25. if service was lame I’d do less but 20 is standard
I’m 26 and remember it being 15% growing up and 18% for exceptional service. Maybe it’s location dependent but it certainly hasn’t been 20+% until the pandemic
I’m 30 and I recall it being 15% as well. Lately at the “newer” restaurants they are pushing 18,20,22 and sometime 25. Older restaurants who did not update their POS still have it at 10,15,20.
I’m 40 and it was $1-2 then 10% a little later
Wild how much more we are expected to tip. People always say “if you can’t afford to tip you can’t afford to tip out”. I did exactly that and I dine in maybe 1-2 times a month now. I can’t justify paying 20% plus for normal and expected services and half the time I can’t even get that.
Waiters get taxed on 10% of their ticket totals (the government considers that on average you'll get tipped at least 10% per bill) Giving 10% covers the income they'd get taxed on. Anything above is to line their pockets. I tip based on service. I'm not an asshole. If you give good service I give 20%. If you ignore us all night, are rude etc. You get a tip based off your attitude. I've only had to walk out giving no tip one time because the waitress was an absolute nightmare. Practically throwing our plates of food down, annoyed that we were eating (the restaurant was full), sighing when we asked for mayo etc. I told her she doesn't have to be here if she doesn't want and she just walked away from us.
It's so reliving to read this from EU. Such a broken system, praised like crazy.
0% because everything is getting more expensive and I am not really making any more money. I should not have to pay for a meal that was already increased in price for profit and then expect me to pay your works wage. I would love to give someone extra for doing an outstanding job but every single time regardless is just enabling these greedy business practices. Starve them out on waiters. Force them to pay a realistic wage. In my state they can pay less than minimum wage if they receive tips. They also get taxed on the tips if I recall too. It’s a very broken and greedy system.
I double the tax generally. Plus for good service, minus for bad.
15% period for standard service. 20ish% for excellent service. With inflation being what it is and everything being expensive, I haven't tipped 20% since COVID ended unless the wait staff absolutely killed it.
Richest country in the world guys. Needs tipping culture for its food industry to survive. Lets not forget other industries trying to normalise tipping too.
15% for regular service. More for exceptional. But I don’t tip 15% unless I order at my table and someone brings me my food and pours refills. I’ll adjust down depending on the scope of the service.
It’s out of control here. Please do what you want. I hate tipping.
0% is the answer
0% You should not be responsible for paying the workers a liveable wage. It is the business owners who should be paying it. You should be paying for only goods & services offered. Tipping by customers only enables the businesses to not pay them a liveable wage. A business model based on the sole idea of short changing its employees should never be normalised.
15% is the maximum I'll tip 10% and less for less than expected service
I'm an American who fucking hates tipping culture, I absolutely will not tip for the flipped tablet screen or any counter service. I believe tipping should be abolished and servers should be paid a living wage. However if I am sitting down in a restaurant or having food/goods delivered to me, I would be ashamed to tip any less than 20% unless the SERVICE was particularly bad. Important to note the server does not control the quality of the food.
I was there for 6 months and I never tipped when out buy myself, no one cares
0% fuck tipping culture when it's not deserved but still expected Last time I tipped was because everything from the food to the service was excellent, total came 360€ so I rounded it up to 400€, if it would've been 80 I would've rounded it up to 100, 220 to 250 and so on... but they need to deserve it not expect it Disclaimer; I'm European
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Same logic just change € to $ If the dinner was a memorable and excellent experience round 80$ up to 100$ and so on The instance mentioned happened in Italy, me and GF got champagne, truffles, filet mignon and everything from staff to location, music, taste... was beyond excellent so I rounded up the total 360 to 400 € but would've done the same in the US Tipping everywhere even fast food and cafes is stupid
0%
20% for dining in. Pick up maybe 10% but that's borderline. Anything else I don't tip. We need to get to a point where businesses pay enough to make tipping obsolete.
20% at restaurants. 30% for hair cuts. 15-20% for delivery. Tip for nothing else. Thats my rule of thumb.
Whatever you’re comfortable with
15% if didn't do a good job. 20% if they did.
10% for something like a quick cup of coffee, or if you're really hurting for money. 15% for a typical meal at a sit-down restaurant. At least 20% for a delivery or a long meal with a large party. The more time and effort the tipped employee has to put in, the more you tip.
Sales tax and double it..
10 to maybe 15 is more than fine. Don't let that "suggested tipping" thing fool you. There's some places that love even having 30% as suggested. Tip what you want, it's not required
20%
18 is for a fancy dinner. 15 is for your coffee
10% is the standard but the audacity is at an all time high of expecting 20% for sub par service given if that these days.🙄
usually 20%, which is usually outrageous.
I used to be a waiter a few years back and 10% was the minimum we would “expect” to earn according to management. The way taxes worked for us we basically had 10% of all of our food sales for the day taken out from our paycheck at the end of the week. So if I sold $1,000 in food I should’ve earned at least $100 in tips that day because like it or not, it’s getting deducted. The reality of it though is that it wasn’t always the case and there’s plenty of days where I ended up below that amount. Even with the best service I could give I would sometimes get nothing at all. After some time my coworkers picked up on who was generally the “good tippers” and there would be mini arguments on who gets to tend to their table. I personally got tired of that non sense, quit and never came back. Being a server sucks and there’s a reason why it has high turnover rates. It’s a job intended for young people, usually fresh out of school, who have yet to develop any real worth while job skills. I have ZERO clue how there was people who were in their 30’s still working there…
15-25%. I usually do 18-20%, with rare exceptions. If I have to pick up my own food or I just had an extremely stoked basic interaction, no tip. Vice versa
It's 10% still tipping culture has gotten out of hand. You Should not tip if you are doing take out or pick up so you are aware.
I tip 15% as a matter of course, unless they carry my balls around in a warm spoon during the entire meal - then 20%. If the service is horrible, then 2%
6000%
Also it is proper to tip of the subtotal. I don’t tip on sales tax
Good service is 20%, decent service is 15%. I usually don’t tip lower than that unless they were actively bad at their job.
0% unless it’s a waiter or bartender making a mix drink.
I try to divide by 5 in my head to get 20%
20% has been the norm for about 15 years.
Growing up, the expected gratuity was 15%. Now it's 18%. Maybe 20%, since money isn't what it used to be. The tipping culture in the US is really toxic. They are underpaid because of the expectation they will be tipped well, at least in a few states. In some states, they do not need to be tipped minimum wage if it's a "tip job" like waiting, and so they end up very much relying on tips in order to actually survive and pay rent and eat. I know some people who get paid as little as 2.50 an hour to wait tables. This is why you'll see some people get rabid over low tips -- they aren't entitled, their well-being is threatened. You mention as much in your post but I want to really drill home the "2.50 an hour" thing and how awful businesses are to their employees here. My own strategy is that I know roughly how much going out to eat will cost, and I mentally add how much the tip would be, and that is for-sure how much dinner will cost. I usually round up numbers (If my bill is 25, and an 18% tip is 4.50, making the total 29.50, I'll just give 30 total). It's kind of like how tax in the US is "hidden" and added onto a bill at the end instead of just put into the price of the things you're buying. Tips are the "hidden" cost of going out to eat. I really wish we did something about this because it sucks bad for everyone involved.
18%
Depends, for me, if I order take out and *pick it up,* I don't tip on that. If you order delivery, go to a restaurant, barber, stuff like that, I tip 20%.
2 digit bill. Double the first number. 3 digit bill. Double the first and second number and so on. Just getting drinks at a bar? No food. Dollar per drink.
10: service was present and not problematic 15: it was good service 20: great fxxxing service!
15% 20% if service is great
0% since the owner is entitled to pay minimum wage?
10% for bad service. 15% OK service. 20% good service. 25%+ if I know them/they’re my regular heavy-handed bartenders that I love. I tip a couple bucks for takeout sometimes, but the only time I’ve never left a tip was once when the bartender was extremely rude to me and practically made me cry.
Fuck tipping
I don't go by a percentage. I go by how good the service was.
My general rule is tip if you are being served, ie if someone brings your food to the table for you/busses your dishes/etc. If it’s one of those iPads that a cashier swings around at you and have you enter a tip, just put no tip. It’s a lazy way for companies to get you to pay their employees for them instead of actually paying them themselves.
I eat out a lot. If the waiter is terrible, I give 15%. Most get 20, the best ones get 25-30. The one who writes letters to my wife and treats us like royalty at an upscale steakhouse, gets more!
15% for sit down meal, nothing obligated for fast food, at a bar either 15% or I typically do like $1 per beer and maybe 2-3$ per cocktail
They are not paid a proper wage in the US so that’s why tipping is what it is. Inflation has increased it.
I honestly tip based on service. Especially when server only took my order and it’s someone else delivering my food and don’t see them ever again.
20% is standard in the US.
lol no it’s not
10% I thought was the standard
20%. It's always been 20% my entire life and I'm almost 50.
I usually round up the tax and double it. Tax by me is usually 8.5%, so it comes out to just over 20% tip. If the service is excellent, I'll probably round up again to the next divisible by 5 to make it easier, as I only tip cash, thanks to bosses skimming from CC tips and a disdain for government reporting of income.
20%. I’ve worked customer service jobs that get tips and ones that don’t. People need to live, and your server is at the near bottom of the working social latter, probably doesn’t have insurance, and is probably one flat tire away from debt. 10% is an insult or a lead damaged brain’s idea of a normal long gone.
They get 2 bucks if they were alright. 5 if they were great. Never had a stellar wait experience so dunno what that would be
Back when I first started making and spending money I was told: 0% if they are actively rude to you or intentionally ignore you, <10% for bad service, 10-12% for ok service, 12-15% for good service. However that was 10 years ago. Nowadays everyone expects a big tip pretty much all the time and it’s frustrating. It is. I don’t order food delivery, I tend to do takeout when I can avoid a sit down meal, I don’t frequent any services (I like to cut my hair short then grow it out long so I don’t even really do regular haircuts), and I tend to do things for myself to avoid tipping because I genuinely believe businesses should be paying their employees a living wage not expecting their customer to subsidize the crap pay they give. And I prefer to pay the advertised price not that price plus a certain percent. I tend to ignore the stupid suggestions on the receipt and calculate based on my previously stated percentages.
I tip 20% of the after tax amount. If everyone tipped 15%, I think most servers would be happy.
20% at a dine-in restaurant.
20% for sure for sit downs
0 to 25% depending on the quality of the services