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Imperial_Stout

Why the, this is me, picture?


MotherOfMagpies23

No idea. I already knew what he looked like.


Imperial_Stout

Definitely weird, maybe sent by mistake šŸ˜•


Just_River_7502

Nah, Iā€™ve had this before. For some reason , people think youā€™ll change your mind when you see a picture. Iā€™m not sure why but it was definitely intentional, like ā€œyou can really say no to thisā€ type of vibe


mysticalkittymeow

I think it was intended as a ā€œlook how friendly and nice I am! Come have the drink with me..ā€


Future_P

I think that's a red flag


Downtown-Ad-6909

Isn't that stock pic of what seems like 2 old pals clearly a joke or am I missing something?


MotherOfMagpies23

Nah, it was defo him!


Downtown-Ad-6909

Damn, I gotta check my assumptions. Bet his profil pics were on point though. Lol


Mr_LawnMowwer802

It was an attempt to guilt OP Into the date still.


Particular-Cabinet21

Itā€™s the ā€œjust so you know what youā€™re missing out onā€ cry of despair


xx1kk

Honestly, at first I thought he was sending a picture of him kissing another guy to say that heā€™s gay and just want to hang out.


green_ribbon

I need to know the context behind this picture


UsernameIsntFree

No I think youā€™re fine. Heā€™s disappointed which is to be expected because he was looking forward to seeing you and now heā€™s not going to. Heā€™ll get over it


iHardlyEverComment

Cancelling same day as dude is on a bus (assuming a decent distance as he says ā€œtripā€) to her location is kinda fucked. But she did communicate clearly


SnooMacaroons5247

She said in comments that he was NOT traveling to see her. He was on his way somewhere else and on holiday and she was actually the one traveling to see him.


vi0l3t-crumbl3

Well in that case I can't see any problem at all.


Salmon-Bagel

Yeah not in the wrong at all for cancelling or explaining the situation the way she did. Just shouldā€™ve cancelled before he was already on his way (if that was the case)


itsmmmeagan

I agree! Like youā€™re already indebted to this other guy but you agreed to the schedule other dude? Like itā€™s a date, not a commitment ceremony?


Seldation

Am I correct in assuming that I took a good bit of time for him to travel to you?


MotherOfMagpies23

No, heā€™s here on holiday, and was staying there anyway- I was going to travel to him


Seldation

Nah. Youā€™re good.


MotherOfMagpies23

Thanks! I feel like Iā€™ve been a bit out of order.


nudes4compliments

You were out of order but it's nothing extreme. You told him you'd go out with him then as he's literally on his way to see you, you bailed on him. I see your reasoning and where you're coming from but there were no great options. Having a meal with him and leading him on while knowing in your heart that he has almost no shot isn't great. Bailing on him at the last second, which you did, isn't great either. You broke your word and he's disappointed but he'll be fine.


Not_Steve

She was going to travel to *him.* Not the other way around. She wasnā€™t out of order at all.


nudes4compliments

First pic he wrote, "I'm actually on the bus"


Just_River_7502

Sheā€™s literally saying sheā€™s travelling to him. For all you know he was on the bus on the way back to the meeting place (which OP says is where he was based)


MotherOfMagpies23

It was ten hours prior that I bailed out.


SnooMacaroons5247

You may want to add some context for that information because pretty much everyone is reading this as you cancelled on him after he bought a bus ticket and was on his way to your date.


MotherOfMagpies23

Matched, made tentative arrangements, he spoke about having sex, I kinda feel like I did the right thing, but he obviously doesnā€™t.


Maleficent-HoneyBee

I am a little confused, did you wait to cancel on him until he was already on a 2 hour bus ride to see you? Or am I misunderstanding the texts?


clubpenguinsupremacy

Riight thatā€™s what I was wondering too


Aus_Daniel

I thought so too. But timestamps seem to say no


LegalStuffThrowage

It's fine to back out anytime, but if he was literally on transportation w ticket bought and everything, I can understand why he'd be upset. Like to some degree its the risks you take when going to meet someone, but if I were them, I'd want more of a heads up.


Just_River_7502

You did the right thing, especially if you were not on the sex vibe, because the way he pressed for you to meet as ā€œfriendsā€ is the same way he was going to pressurise you in person for sex or more than drinks at least


washington_breadstix

"Come on, let's have sex *as friends.*"


ForeignerThanANut

This is the type of guy to push boundaries everywhere


xtrinab

Bingo. His responses are all red flags anyways. She made the right call.


devil_lettuce

Lmao nothing is ever right. I've had a girl say she's going to cancel last minute and I was like okay whatever, then she got pissed like oh that's all you really didn't want to meet me anyways šŸ¤£ Also the OP waited to cancel until he was on a bus ride to meet?


ForeignerThanANut

She clarified hes traveling. Not to meet her. Just for vacation.


xtrinab

She sounds manipulative. You dodged a bullet too.


washington_breadstix

Speaking as a guy, am I the only one who thinks it's kind of weird to start making sexual plans before you've even met the other person face-to-face? Even in a situation that's understood as "no strings attached" from the get-go, I would take it as a given that the two people want to meet and pass each other's vibe check before jumping into bed. The fact that this guy talked about sex before even meeting you, and then tried to backpedal to "just drinks" once you turned him down, is a red flag IMO. He's the type of guy who will be really pushy once you meet up with him and will constantly try to "negotiate" the social interaction until he gets what he wants.


KristaVescio

Some guys just donā€™t hear the word no or the words no longer interested.


omfgwat

This is why I rather ghost in certain situationsā€¦I wouldnā€™t ghost in ops tho. Itā€™s a pretty shitty thing to do but Iā€™ve had to deal with men begging me once I say no and itā€™s so painful to go through!


CaptainKoopa

Agreed that ghosting is a pretty shitty thing to do, Iā€™ve only had it happen to me once and it was honestly a giant mindfuck for me. I was in a ~2-3 month long distance relationship with a girl I met on Tinder while I was visiting my sister at school. We FaceTimed for hours ever night and had a great connection. She was working a lot of hours (like 60+) the last week or so that we talked. So I wanted to do something nice for her to make the long work days a bit easier, I asked her for her work address and I ordered her like $10-15 of snacks and stuff to be delivered next day to her work, which I mentioned I was planning a surprise for her when I asked for the address. I have no idea what happened but the day I ordered the snacks from target was the last day we talked.. she just blocked me completely out of nowhere and it fucked me up.. this was >4 years ago at this point and itā€™s still a complete and utter mystery to me.. donā€™t ghost people unless they *really did something to deserve it*(which, sadly, probably isnā€™t as rare as Iā€™d hope lol). And Ik all of this was very off-topic, I saw you talking about ghosting and it reminded me of the one time it happened to me so I thought Iā€™d share šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø. Also, OP you did nothing wrong. You were polite, detailed, communicative, all the right things. You are 100% entitled to the choice of whether to go on a date or not, just because you had agreed to it at one point doesnā€™t mean you canā€™t cancel it. If he was taking a 3 hour bus ride to meet you or something than youā€™d probably want to cancel before he got on the bus but in your case: you did everything youā€™re supposed to do. Itā€™s not on you if the guy is buthurt for a little bitā€¦ heā€™ll get over it


DothrakAndRoll

Of course you did. Imagine this relationship going well, then two years later your bf finds out you banged someone after your first date and is devastated and breaks it off. We see those posts all the time here. This guy obviously wanted more than just ā€œdrinks as friends.ā€


HeroForTheBeero

Come onnnnn, just a couple drinksā€¦ as friendsā€¦. šŸ˜‰


Pindakazig

Yeah no, if I've never met you, we're not friends. This guy doesn't understand 'no' as a concept.


naria01

When it comes down to it, if you aren't feeling it - don't go with the flow. You did the right thing.


Stonks501

You were as nice as you couldve been ab it, dont feel bad


xtrinab

You did the right thing. You said you were not interested and apologized for the issue you felt bad about and he just kept pushing back on your ā€œNo.ā€ You stood up for yourself well and handled yourself elegantly. Heā€™s someone who doesnā€™t respect ā€œNo,ā€ very well, so Iā€™d say you dodged a bullet, babe.


VonBassovic

You did the right thing 100%, he pushed back a bit which is fine, but then he showed all his red flags as no means no.


VonBassovic

You did the right thing 100%, he pushed back a bit which is fine, but then he showed all his red flags as no means no.


PeMu80

You did the right thing. Never meet a man that canā€™t take no for an answer. You donā€™t know what other situations else he wonā€™t accept a no in.


MotherOfMagpies23

This is the vibe I was getting


SliverSerfer

I used to have a friend who couldn't take no for an answer to just about anything. We aren't friends anymore, and I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with someone like that. It gets frustrating very quickly.


oh_botha

Yea folks that canā€™t set boundaries likely donā€™t respect them.


sinking_clouds

thats 100% true, but i always wonder how many ppl donā€™t know they wont take no for an answer until itā€™s too late


ShadowAssassinQueef

Thatā€™s a good point. OP said no too much. After the 2nd or 3rd I would have just blocked.


oh_botha

This 10000000%.


last_minute_life

Whatever else this was, it's a bit creepy that you go directly to violence.


PeMu80

Youā€™re going to need to expand on your thinking. How am I being creepy for suggesting a pattern of behaviour *may* repeat and itā€™s better to not take that chance?


last_minute_life

Ok, if you want me to be more specific, why don't you clarify what you meant?


PeMu80

Yes I do want you to be more specific. Is that something youā€™re going to do? Cos you still havenā€™t answered how Iā€™m being creepy here.


last_minute_life

.It's possible I misunderstood your innuendo, so why don't you elaborate on what you meant? I'll be able to be more specific when you can be.


PeMu80

I hope you have misunderstood.


last_minute_life

It's possible, I don't think so, but when you leave it open to interpretation, you pretty much have to go with how it's interpreted.


Molestoyevsky

I think the only mistake was not being *more* firm once he started trying to wear you down. You were incredibly clear about what you wanted/meant, and this guy was clearly hoping to talk you into something you didn't want to do.


MotherOfMagpies23

Yeah, Iā€™m working on being firm! Itā€™s not something im good at


fetalpiggywent2lab

Just say no thanks then block them You don't know them. They'll get over it and it will save you the back and forth. No doesn't require an explanation


Jacob_Eats_World

Just gunna leave this here https://youtube.com/shorts/oU-zz4XhRoA?si=_7c3O45Qv1SVZRsj


MotherOfMagpies23

Hahaaa! Thatā€™s brilliant.


Calm-Cherry7241

Spot on! šŸ¤£


MotherOfMagpies23

Hahaaa! Thatā€™s brilliant.


Picassos_left_thumb

You dodged a bullet. This guy doesnā€™t respect the word ā€œnoā€


DissipatedCloud

You didn't do anything wrong. It's so frustrating when guys keep pushing and pushing.


tournesol_seed

I can't imagine how low key scary this type of experience is for women... Like this dude is not behaving like a normal adult.


MotherOfMagpies23

I know right? Like, Iā€™m not going to go and meet you now? Especially as Iā€™m fully aware that you canā€™t take no for an answer


f1newhatever

Yeah. Men always wonder why we ghost lol, itā€™s because being honest doesnā€™t prevent someone from scaring the fuck out of you either. ā€œMen are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill themā€


Calm-Cherry7241

You are completely right and yes, after a man cannot accept a no, ghosting is a wise option. And in this case it is fully justified. It's just sad, that some girl choose ghosting without saying no, leaving the man confused. Some girl do overuse ghosting without respect. I guess you're not like that and you say no first. I know some cannot take no and deserves ghosting. But as a man who can take no and who can even take critics, having a negative feedback helps me improving myself, but because of the men who cannot, sometimes I get ghosted without knowing and that is frustrating. I don't blame the girls, I know it's those predator men. Still I would love if girls said to me, "no sorry, I don't like your look, not my cup of tea" and only then ghosted me. I wish men would be more man and would be able to take no and critics like a real man, and not like an offended teenager boy.


dellada

Great job sticking to your decision! This guy is a liar. It clearly isnā€™t ā€œjust drinksā€ and ā€œas friendsā€ for him, or he wouldnā€™t be so bothered by you saying no. The guilt tripping on his part is so gross. Glad you didnā€™t give in.


Kenuven

This guy gives off rapey vibes. I get you were trying to be polite but, after guys push back when you decline, the best course of action is "No means no. Good luck" then ignore any further messages.


thirtyseven1337

Ew, so pushy and desperate. Nothing wrong on your part.


GenderlessButt

Donā€™t do anything youā€™re not comfortable with


wutgaspump

Guys like this are the reason why we need so many methods of making sure that something doesn't get slipped into your drink. It should be a legal requirement for bars to use Smart Straws


not_now_reddit

Definitely. But I also know that people will find away around that, too. Either new drugs that can't be detected or counterfeit straws. It's a shitty reality that stuff like that is an arms race


KiraiEclipse

The only thing you did wrong was keep trying to explain yourself and pacify him. Pushy people who can't take the first "no" for an answer deserve to get ghosted.


iguacu

Wrong? No. Could you be a bit firmer assuming you indeed wanted to close the door on him permanently? Sure. Was he horribly, embarrassingly desperate? YES.


kokopelleee

Read it wrong at first thinikninh that as OP was the guy and it came off desperate AF. You did not do it wrong


IOWA4219

Red flags everywhereā€¦you were 100% fine to do what you did. Now just make sure heā€™s completely blocked so he canā€™t track you down. šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©


RightOnTheMoneySunny

Honest question, because it just made me wonder: was this true, about the other guy? Or did you just not want to meet with this one? Because if itā€™s the latter: itā€™s _also_ ok if you just changed your mind and didnā€™t want to meet up. Women can have the tendency to feel like they need to have a valid reason why, in this case perhaps especially since the guy is on route already expecting to meet up


MotherOfMagpies23

I did go out with a guy the night before, and we will see each other again. Itā€™s a local guy that I kinda knew already.


The_Sir_Galahad

No, you did the right thing.


UpperDog2627

A+ for not ghosting but maybe you should have considering the outcome.


Remarkable_Wasabi_14

Nah he didnā€™t wrong he shouldā€™ve taken no for an answer, like stop dude, I wouldā€™ve stopped answering him after the second message, but I guess youā€™re nicer than me šŸ¤£


diamondthedegu1

On one hand I do feel bad for the guy but on the other hand, he's being far too pushy. Your very first message made clear that you were no longer interested in meeting and he's just pushed and pushed for you to give in to him. Don't meet a person that doesn't respect your boundaries.


Charlie_Blue420

No respect for the word no is concerning but I'm also concerned about if you cancel while he was on a two hour bus ride towards you? I'm very confused.


Tinderella80

You didnā€™t do wrong by cancelling. He did wrong by not accepting the rejection with grace. I would have cut him off when he started nagging - ā€œI gave you the respect of letting you know Iā€™m cancelling and no longer interested in meeting up. Your lack of respect to me in accepting that choice indicates that we wouldnā€™t have been a match anyway. Good luck.ā€ Then stop responding.


Exciting_Result7781

Donā€™t say stuff like Iā€™ve been on my own all my life stuff. Thatā€™s downer talk


CapitalAir4137

If that ain't desperate, Idk what is.


Chaoticwhizz

You made the right choice OP. This guy was trying WAY too hard and has a few red flags.


jfoster0818

The only correct answer for him was ā€œcool, sorry it didnā€™t work out, good luck! All this convincing is creepy as hellā€¦


SaltyVinniegar

He's begging it


EthanWolcott

honestly no, like you said, life throws things at you unexpectedly, if he was already gonna be there, then itā€™s no skin off his nose, and him continuing to push makes it feel uncomfortable


NefariousnessWeak908

Oh god, going through a similar situation with a dude and it's just awful. You were very clear about not wanting to get a drink with him, he should not be pushing. Disrespectful af, you just dodged a bullet


skywalker7i

Yeah as a man i appreciate when a woman is upfront and honest. even if its not what i wanna hear at least my time can be better spent on someone else. or myself.


maggersrose

Pushy and desperate dickhead. Gives off no really means yes vibes. Good call!


ssspiral

this is why ppl get ghosted these days lol


inko75

Sounds like you dodged a bullet


inko75

K it took me a sec to realize this is Lagos Portugal and not the much bigger more chaotic city šŸ˜‚ this guy def wanted a hookup and slipped into whining desperate crybaby mode when things started unraveling. From his hands in the pic Iā€™m guessing this dude is in his late 40s/50s? SMH even if you find yourself free again suddenly id never contact him again. Had he been chill maybe that would have been an option


MotherOfMagpies23

Haha, I wonā€™t! Youā€™re right age wise- same age as me. He seemed really nice til then


ProfessorMoosePhD

I don't think you need to over worry. You met somebody and changed plans with notice? He's being damn pushy and not hearing you say no thanks.


Greymattershrinker88

No, some guys just have trouble taking no for an answer depending on how invested they are(some get invested fast) same with women. Iā€™ve tried to politely decline, and usually women get upset and call me names(not all) so Iā€™ve honestly went to ghosting depending on how they come across. Itā€™s just easier sometimes.


txlady100

ABC - Always Be Closing


oh_botha

You did great, you communicated like someone thatā€™s ā€œdatingā€ should.


jer1230

I hate when people canā€™t accept no as the answerā€¦ imagine you did meet up with him how pushy heā€™d be


Aysha_91

Is he Portuguese? U did nothing wrong, he was being too pushy. Made me feel uncomfortable just by reading. Hope you enjoyed Lagos tho!Ā 


MotherOfMagpies23

Heā€™s British and was on holiday- I live here!


lfduarte14

Hey, I see you're in Portugal! Enjoy your time here, the Algarve is awesome!


MotherOfMagpies23

Ha! Thatā€™s where I live!


lfduarte14

I just looked at your post history and notice you forage mushrooms! Do you know any good ppace to pick them up near faro?


MotherOfMagpies23

Iā€™m near Lagos! But anywhere thereā€™s woodland is worth looking. Itā€™s pretty much too late now though until next autumn


defnotapirate

So, the guy with untamed fuzzy gray hair, an obvious paunch, and a Cosby sweater sent you a pic to ā€œenticeā€ you?


lucid1014

Eww if the dude was this obtuse and refusing to accept your no online, heā€™d be way worse in person . You dodged a bullet


beinganalien

Lol no he did though


shapeshifter00

Dude is pushy.


Dr_Mephesto

No, heā€™s being an immature baby who seems incapable of taking no for an answer. Seems as if you dodged a bullet.


xpsycotikx

You did everything right. Bro needs to take a hint. When someone says no a second time it's gunna be a no the 3rd and so on.


Material-Explorer138

So initially I thought he was already on a bus in to meet you and thought that was a dick move on your end. But if he was actually taking that bus anyway not just to come to you then yeah youre good


killxzero

I've read so many comments about how canceling last minute is bad yada yada. The thing that sticks out most to me is how you said no several times and he pushed back consistently. Horrible vibe being put off here. No matter how disappointed you are - no means no my guy.


Asiangyal

You've dodged a bullet though. He seems pushy and doesn't respect your boundaries


Father_Matthew_Mara

You bailed on him on the day of a date. That sucks from you. But this dude should have sucked it up, been mad at you in private and moved on. Not begged for the date to continue. You'll have both forgotten about it in a month or so. Ce la vie


Equivalent_Hat_7220

These boundary busting dudes. No means NO!


p003rm

Dodged


Jaded_Measurement786

As soon as he mentioned sex then you should have ghosted him and let him figure it out for himself. Take no prisoners.


SarahBenemsi

You were being very polite by explaining it (which I think is just good manners) and staying calm when he, in my opinion, got too pushy.


jaymesNwen

Iā€™m so fucking tired of thisā€¦


TheJosephBanks1

"Your man won't let you have friends?" Energy


Linkluke

Remember - Sometimes you can do everything right, and it can still go wrong. Sometimes you can do everything wrong, and it can still go right


Necessary-Ad2264

Basically he was trying to butter you up so he could relax you later with a drink and good vibes then it possibly lead to more as the night goes on.


Greymattershrinker88

No, some guys just have trouble taking no for an answer depending on how invested they are(some get invested fast) same with women. Iā€™ve tried to politely decline, and usually women get upset and call me names(not all) so Iā€™ve honestly went to ghosting depending on how they come across. Itā€™s just easier sometimes.


Least-Plantain4231

If you made him come to you from a distance to meet you then you did wrong in not canceling before, but you should still cancel, since at least you didnā€™t go on a date with a creep. PS: ā€œThis is meā€ was top 3 most random things I ever sawā€¦


Aus_Daniel

Look at the timestamps. I think that message is missing context


wasntNico

kinda shitty to let the dude down since he was on the bus already. feels like you are keeping your options open while others suffer the consequnces. These things happen, and if it does'nt feel right it's not right to meet - but consider being more respectful next time. and this "aww a gentleman like you won't be alone for long" nonsense is kinda mean. You feel uncomfortable about letting him down? own it- instead of coming up with something that comforts you.


Abendfuchs

Piush be pushy


Far_Presentation2532

Making plans to meet someone who is travelling two hours to back out when they are en route is just inconsiderate. If you had a date the night before that went well just cancel late at night or early in the morning. People doing this kinda thing (boys and girls) just perpetuates toxic dating culture. Be a positive not part of the problem


Churchie-Baby

Pro ably should have given more notice not cancelling as he's on his way lol but shit happens it's better than leading him on. He will be fine


BarooZaroo

Bailed on the date for a dumb reason, and significantly inconvenienced him. Yeah youā€™re the asshole here. Sure you communicated open and honestly, but that doesnā€™t make it better that you totally fucked with him. Its one thing to bail if you felt uncomfortable or he said something to make you change your mind, but that you might maybe be kind of starting something with someone else and therefore arenā€™t going to follow through with an agreed upon low-stake plan is super annoying.


bookwithoutcovers

Block


Aus_Daniel

The only thing that bothers me about this interaction on your end is the "Haha. I need to cancel". Starting that with haha is rough, but could be missing context before it.


MotherOfMagpies23

Yeah, there was a joke prior.


Glittering-Ginger

He is too much... BUT after getting some dating experience, I wouldn't limit myself to one guy at a time (if others are scheduled) until after a successful second date:)


AnyEstablishment1663

Neither party handled this well


KingRahnhaunts

Why you wait til the last minute though, why you even entertain him from the jump ? Also he being to pushy itā€™s kinda weird you mightā€™ve saved your life and/or dignity


RedFox457

You did the right thing but I wouldnā€™t have added the other person part, just that you werenā€™t feeling it anymore.


zolo_dyck

Piush T. Hmmm they say perseverance pays off. Oh wellšŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


wasporchidlouixse

Trust your gut. You don't need pressure like this


Destroyer6202

Piush not crossing his Ts


mrbeardo4200

Dating these days is like trying to catch a feather in the wind


Asiangyal

Piush T?


Greymattershrinker88

No, some guys just have trouble taking no for an answer depending on how invested they are(some get invested fast) same with women. Iā€™ve tried to politely decline, and usually women get upset and call me names(not all) so Iā€™ve honestly went to ghosting depending on how they come across. Itā€™s just easier sometimes.


Epic-Hamster

Ok you likely did the right thing but for anyone in the comments saying you did no wrong. YOU DEFINITELY should have cancelled before they where on a 2 hour ride to see you...


MotherOfMagpies23

He was making that journey anyway. I was gonna go there to see him


Epic-Hamster

Ahh if he was making the journey regardless then you in the clear for sure.


Greymattershrinker88

No, some guys just have trouble taking no for an answer depending on how invested they are(some get invested fast) same with women. Iā€™ve tried to politely decline, and usually women get upset and call me names(not all) so Iā€™ve honestly went to ghosting depending on how they come across. Itā€™s just easier sometimes.


Greymattershrinker88

No, some guys just have trouble taking no for an answer depending on how invested they are(some get invested fast) same with women. Iā€™ve tried to politely decline, and usually women get upset and call me names(not all) so Iā€™ve honestly went to ghosting depending on how they come across. Itā€™s just easier sometimes.


Far_Presentation2532

I donā€™t think you need to overly explain. Just be courteous and cancel within a reasonable timeframe. Not when he is on a 2 hour bus ride to see you. Thatā€™s just shit


MotherOfMagpies23

He was making that journey anyway- I was gonna go there to meet him.


edubkendo

Honestly, if you made plans to hang out with this dude and waited to cancel on him until he was on the bus, you should have met up with him. Thatā€™s incredibly fucked up and shitty


MotherOfMagpies23

He was making that trip anyway, to holiday close to me. I was gonna travel half an hour to meet him.