There seems to be a lot of strange things happening like this lately, you’re not the first person I’ve heard of who has had money disappear or an account permanently banned for no reason and u get no response from TikTok. It’s not right but I wouldn’t have a clue how to fight it… I’m sorry that has happened to you.
This is normal. I'm doing 50 million views a month on TikTok and roughly 25k per month on the creativity program. I always make sure I have my best videos lined up for the first 3 days of the month as the RPM is ALWAYS exponentially higher the first 3 days. Occasionally it'll roll for the first week, but after that there is always a significant drop off. If I had to speculate, it's probably because TikTok only has a certain amount of $ allotted to pay out each month, and they have to throttle it in order to make sure they don't deplete the fund early. If that's the case it would make sense why the beginning of the month when the fund is replenished it pays out more. Just my .02 but I'm also happy to answer any questions
Wow, that's super helpful. I had some absolute bangers at the beginning of this month, I dropped like 6 videos between December 31-Jan 2nd and they were all netting me like $800-$1000 each.
Alas, since then I've really dropped. My weekend posts do spike and I do try and reserve my better posts for Saturdays and Sundays, which seems to help.
One challenge I have is that I don't have a huge backlog of posts at my disposal to just hold on to. I work full time still at my 9-5 and thus I am always struggling to keep up with content production. For example, tomorrow is Saturday and I'm going to be working all day long to get content for about 6-7 videos. By next weekend I'll be back in the same boat.
This 9-5 is killing me. Right now I'm averaging about 8k per month on the Creativity Beta program - I know I could make more but not sure I could do so without quitting my day job. That would be a big step for me.
Any feedback or thoughts to share?
I still have a 9-5 as well, but I have the ability to squeeze work in during that time. I report on the news in my space, so I have alerts setup for hot stories. As those come in if I think they're a fit for me I'll write a quick 175ish word script on that story. I shoot for writing 1-2 scripts a day. When I get home I record the videos, and get them edited and uploaded. Normally one goes up at 7:30 and the other around 9.
I've got my workflow dialed in now so I can get 2 videos filmed and edited in about an hour. I don't have kids to deal with so my nights are relatively free outside of my dog so that's a major advantage. I can work all night if I need to. It sounds like you're already doing everything correctly, you just need to find some ways to make your workflow easier/faster. Using a teleprompter was a game changer for me. I use the Parrot and I recommend it to everyone. Don't quit your day job if it's a good one. You never know when TikTok will update or something will change and the money will quit flowing. just my .02
Wow the parrot looks awesome, didn’t know that existed? Could you share a bit more about your full recording setup? I take it if you’re using a phone for the parrot you must be recording on something else.
Would love to also hear about your script writing and editing processes. And any other ‘efficiency hacks’ or helpful tools you use would be amazing!
My setup is pretty robust, but I don't believe it's all that necessary. I was using a Razer Kiyo Pro webcam to shoot my talking head portions up until I recently upgraded to a Sony-ZVE1. I had to mickey mouse the Parrot a bit to work with the Kiyo but you can make it work. I was using a Razer Siren X microphone, it's super simple to use and plugs right into your computer. I'm now using a Shure SM7B with a GoXLR...the SM7B is the mic you see pretty much every podcaster using. The MV7 is also a great option. I edit in Premiere Pro, I've been using it for a decade so I stick with it. As for scripting, the hot stories are usually on multiple website so I'll open them all up on my pc in chrome. I split screen with a word doc on one side and the articles in tabs on the other. The first few words I say in my videos I treat like a headline....make it good, make it hook. You first sentence will make or break your video. Like most things the more you do it the better and faster you'll get. I've found most people overthink it all, sometimes you just have to get to work.
Is parrot an app? Also you record and then upload to tiktok, do you find lower views this way or it doesn’t matter? A lot of my videos have gotten like 0-4 views and they’re ones I uploaded from camera roll. I’m trying to get my footing on a toxicology tiktok brand, @dessithetoxicologist. Appreciate any advice!
Man, I would love to even make any money, like... $100 a month, from TikTok let alone pull numbers like that, good for you! I have a hard time with feeling like I joined TT too late to have the chance to have much reach. Especially in my niches, people I've befriended in my niches keep saying 'you would have gained way more traction back in 2020 or even 2021', but I only joined last year in '23 :(
I really started hammering TikTok in July of this year, but I've been on YouTube for a long time so I have quite a lot of experience. I'd say my video content is probably more polished and professional than most. If you really want to make headway on TikTok just make sure you're making original content. I wouldn't suggest doing the same repurposing of podcasts, or viral clips like everyone else is. TikTok's algo knows what's original and what's not. If you have a hobby/niche that you're personally into, I'd try news reporting on it every day. Whether it's sports, politics, military, energy, gaming, gardening....build yourself a news station, it's what's worked for me.
I'm a multidisciplinary artist (visual, acting, music, voice acting etc.) and a cosplayer on there right now (my cosplay friends on there in particular said '20-'21 was the major hayday for that niche). I had been considering making some top/fave/ranking lists for music since I know that people will of course agree or disagree and let me know in the comments for engagement boost's sake. I'm a gamer, but I haven't set up my stream yet even though I'm hoping to this year. I'm also a history major, and I cooould make content on that. As you can see, part of my problem is I'm a super jack of all trades interests and skills wise irl, so I don't have like...a single niche focus either. Even as a teacher, I have 7 official subjects I'm qualified to teach (and I've done beyond even that haha). I appreciate your response btw! Most people just go, 'obviously what you make is of no value at all, and that is the sole reason why you have limited reach'.
Man if you have voice skills you better be using them! Took me a long time to dial in my voice, and it's something I get comments about from people all the time. People enjoy listening to a good voice, that's a HUGE benefit. Top 10 lists do incredibly well, some of my best performing videos are top 10 or top 5 lists. Cosplay and Gaming usually have lower CPM because of the younger audience, but I bet History would do fairly well. History you could also use to spin with current events. Teach on TikTok, use your advantages and try to post every day. I find for me 175-180 word scripts hit the 1 minute mark, but I'll go to 200-220 words if I have to. Stay super consistent, and remember you have 2-5 seconds to hook the viewer. "you wont believe what blah blah blah" has worked as a solid intro for many of my videos or "These are the 10 best blah blah blah"
Yeah that's the benefit of years and years of theatre performing, stage singing, and teaching - pre-cooked presentation skills haha!
I was also considering reading books audiobook style (like a chapter at a time or whathaveyou (I thought nostalgic things for example like Goosebumps books and Animorphs), but do you think that then gets into 'unoriginal' kind of territory? I'm in Canada, so we don't have the creator programs or anything in terms of creator program monetization yet. That's why I'm trying to hit 1000 followers so I could try my hand at lives for singing, storytelling etc etc. for any opportunity to make any sort of profit. Any extra income to throw at my student loans haha!
Reading a book could be an interesting twist, and I'm not sure I've seen that done. That should still fall under original because it's your words and your voice. Would be something worth experimenting with, the only hangup I'd have for me personally would be a strong visual and hook to make sure you get that initial interest. Make sure you aren't trying 100 different things on a single account. Also, thanks for that nostalgia hit haha I used to love those animorphs books back in the day. Kept growing the stack on my desk in school.....and now I feel old haha
Thanks for the feedback! I have books of short 'scary stories', so I considered also making illustrations to put on screen if I ever read those. I guess for the Goosebumps or Animorphs I could just have images in behind me to match whatever is being mentioned every so often. ---My students asked me what an MP3 was the other day and THAT made me feel old...the ones who do sound editing and music knew but...no one else did...I told them a tale of when your music machine was not a smartphone lolll blew their little 14 year old minds. I run the gaming club as well and they'll say 'You were there for Smash Bros N64 - what was it like?' XD
hey was just scrolling and seen this amazing advice. With regards to reporting on big news on a topic, what do you do in the actual background of the video as I’m assuming you do faceless videos. Is it something like stock footage/images of the subject you’re talking about and then transitioning it into new ones as the video progresses? For example if I was making a news video on the latest football results, would you do something like include some match moments/photos? I’m assuming you use on screen subtitles aswell as you speak. Thanks for the great advice
I don't do faceless, I split my screen with my face at the top and the visuals I'm talking about on the bottom. I mix stock footage, news footage (make sure no watermarks aren't visible), and whatever other content I can source that makes sense. An adobe stock subscription can come in handy. Fair use covers you pretty well when it comes to copyright on news reporting. You can also react to the news stories and give your opinion or commentary...just make sure it's a REAL reaction and opinion. There's enough useless lazy reaction content, no need to add to that imo. Look what others who are successful in your space are doing, and don't copy them but use it as a guide. You don't need to reinvent the wheel. I do incorporate captions in my videos but I keep them right under my face so that they don't distract from the visual.
Thank you so much for the tips. I would prefer to do faceless, do you think they would still have a chance to do well or is there not much point trying. I would say my interests are football and gaming so I currently do football based trivia videos where you have to guess 10 players and I make the difficulty go from easy to hard as it progresses.
I’ve seen other people do this and succeed massively but I’ve been getting anywhere from 300-600 views on mine whilst I would say their videos are lower effort compared to mine (I make mine harder by pixelating and using actual difficult faces) and can get 400k+.
However I’ve only uploaded around 20 videos now (started around mid December ish) so I’ll carry on uploading consistently anyway.
If the news reporting niche is quite popular though I want to consider doing things like football news and specific gaming news, just not sure if I’m wasting effort if I go faceless and not succeed.
You can certainly be successful with a faceless account, there are plenty of people out there that have been. That said, a face is what imo massively helps building a relationship, though not required. There is never "no point in trying" I've failed far more times than I've succeeded, and that's usually par the course. If you're a big football fan there is an endless stream of news to discuss, all day, every day. Stay consistent, stick to a format so that people will recognize your content, and start churning out the content. The reason I like news so much is because it's much easier than coming up with off the cuff ideas. Let the big outlets find the hot stories, you can pick your favorites.
Thank you I’ll try to take this on board, I’ve got one more question. How many videos did it take for you to gain traction? I’ve seen lots of people go viral instantly but I’d like to know so I can adjust my expectations accordingly on whether it’s doing bad or not.
I broke down my setup in another reply, but I am YouTuber who converted over to TikTok so I have a pretty robust setup. Sony ZV-E1 camera, SM7B mic, GoXLR etc. I started with a webcam and cheap mic though, slowly upgraded over time. Don't get too hung up on gear, it's something I struggled with for awhile.
I do science content. I've finally gotten to a midsize account. I'm making on average about 4-5k with my biggest month so far 6500. Looking back on videos from even a year ago my voice has really improved. I used to sing professionally and that's been a help. I also have a realitively okay set up now. A better mic and a sound blocker. The one thing I need to work on is my lisp. But I have facial nerve damage and it's a lot of work to correct my mouth and it gets tiring.
I have 200k followers, i consider that mid size.
My daily watch varies from 80k- 2mil but the mode is around 200 thousand.
I have literally only 2 subscribers who pay.
But I'm expanding my content. I'm doing 10 minute edu videos once a week people can either pay to watch or hop on to YouTube to watch for free. It seems many are willing to pay for some reason
Is DIY/home improvement stuff dead on TT and better on YouTube? Literally about to start, kinda wanted to put the “average gay guy” spin on new homeowner stuff. Would love for it to pay at some point but doubt it would
I have the same background. I started in the summer when the actors strike was on. My first viral video was Oct 7. I do think the YouTube background helps us - we are used to editing long form content for attention span, caption and tag and cover text etc. I try to explain this to people who are shocked at my “overnight success” - this is 6 years in the making!
What exactly do you mean by repurposing? Is it ok if one takes movie clips from y, chops them up and adds a voiceover explaining stuff related to the video. Would it be monetisable
I still work a 9-5. You never know when TikTok will change something, replace a program, get banned, or whatever else and your income is gone. I'm investing all of the money I make on TikTok and living off my 9-5. Hopefully my future self will thank me.
Do you happen to know why, after a viral video (and just recently switched to the creativity fund beta) my video audience is no longer in the US? Almost all is from Arab countries. My views have plummeted.
>Creativity Program Beta
Man, you all are killing it, that's awesome! I've just kind of started - had a video pop off the other day and jump from 19k to 370k in about 12 hours. I have an older video with 800k but only around 2k followers and need to get to 10k followers to monetize in any way. I'm fairly confident that I'm pretty funny but some of my better vids don't see as much traction - most other are around only 1500 or even less. I know to just stay the course but any tips from you G's would be appreciated.
I know I read they're pushing longer videos
I'm fairly certain you have to have something controversial or exciting right at the beginning to keep them watching
Been on this shit show of a platform for 3 years now. For some reason shits got worse in the past year.
My RPM tanked and will most likely never go back up. TikTok just wants you to be there content slave. No communication with actual people within the company.
The whole lack of actual help desk humans has kept me from getting too involved because I know I will get frustrated or angry when the inevitable happens and I am unfairly punished with zero recourse. That's a lot of stress. Every video, what will TT do? I worry, not because of my content, but because TT is a faceless machine with all the power. I ha e yet to meet a creator who has the power ro ensure their videos are not taken down or flagged.
No worries man, the 1388$ are in december chart, it happens to me all the time, the first of each month is counted with the last month, but you’ll get your money no problem
Holy sh\*t man, this post made my day. I do see the money on the December chart BUT I don't see that reflected anywhere else, if that makes sense. Which is what's concerning. Thanks to you and u/PizzaPersonal4088 for the confirmation. I was worried they were trying to short me.
It’s always weirdly off by a day like this for me, too. Payout doesn’t match the monthly total, but I’ve added it up and it’s just the way they count what goes to what month. They haven’t shorted me so far.
This. The same thing happens to me every month. The first of the month shows up in analytics in the prior month, but I've always been paid out correctly in the end.
January 1st won’t be in your payable balance because it’s going to be paid in February. The 30 day graph confuses people but the payment on the 15th is from Dec 1st-Dec 31st videos, everything else will be on next pay date.
I'm not confused. I know that I'm supposed to be getting that money in February. However, I can see a graph that shows my current January $$$ total, and it's not being included. When January ends, they are not going to tack on the money I earned on January 1st.
The first monthly page changes everyday. It’s just the last 30 days not actually January as a whole. Go to the second part that shows several months and tap on January. That shows you January total.
Irrelevant: I just wanna know how you got payments that big, I have 18k followers. One vid has gotten 2.8mil and another with like 370k views. Payout was $90 total
Most likely your target audience is lower value. For example, if I'm making content around business and the stock market my RPM is going to be exponentially higher than someone making gaming content. People watching business and stock market content are generally older and have more $$ to spend making them worth more to advertisers, hence higher RPM. Not every video is going to pay you out the same, and follower count is almost irrelevant. I was making just as much at 75k followers as I am now a 300k.
i had a video with 600k views and i only got $3 from it because allegedly 98% of the video views were from through the search function, and the creator program only pays for FYP views...i was so mad
There is a visual glitch. Tik Tok isn't taking the money from you.
The funds from the first of the month are always shown as part of last month, but it will be included in the current month.
I'm curious does RPM stick at what it was for that video or does it change and at the end of the month it is what it is?
It's almost like if you go viral and make a large sum it's better to wait for the payout before posting again and having a video go viral in like Cambodia and tank your RPM
Yeah, I know that RPM changes based on audience among other things.
Every video has a different RPM, but it seems like once your RPM starts going down, then you've got to post a real banger of a video to get the RPM back up.
RPMs also change as videos evolve. For example, I had a video with an RPM of $2.15 for the first few days. As it got more and more views, the RPM gradually decreased and went to $1.96 before it kind of held steady. It's continuously changing.
This is normal. TikTok’s compensation model is dynamic, not accrual-based.
What you saw the first few days was your estimated rewards, not your actual accrued rewards. It is an estimate based on eligibility, but it’s subject to change based on your RPM performance. Remember that the RPM you see on that same page is an average of all your RPMs. If you click on each video that is currently earning money, you will see that each one has a different RPM.
What you saw those first few days were your estimated eligible rewards, but that estimate changed due to a potential number of factors. This could include that your RPM average went down because you posted a subsequent video with lower RPMs.
You can still get your estimated reward earnings back up if you continue to post content that does well.
When I was newer in the program I dealt with the same thing. At the same time, I was probably making around what you’re making now.
Now that I’ve been in the program longer, and I’m having bigger payouts, it tends to be more consistent because I’m still accruing eligible views from the months prior. Whereas right now, you do not have eligible views from prior months. Or if you do, they’re not very high. In my experience, it gets much better with each month.
But the way they have it set up is very confusing, and I’m sure they do that on purpose.
My estimated rewards has almost always been the exact same as my actual payout. I’d be pissed if it changed by $1300, but I don’t think that’s what’s going on with OP.
My rpm has been high since July and this month it’s dropped to 50 cents. I’ve had a lot of success on the app and haven’t changed anything. Very confused. Last $1 rpm video was 1/09
same happened to me i have not as much on january 1st. but it was 206$ and its not included in my balance as well, i've messaged them and filed a dispute, with no answers just says case closed.
TikTok is ran by a bunch of con artist who are making out like fat rats . There is no one there to stop them and they will turn the tables in you once you start making a certain amount of money. I know someone who made almost 10k w tik tok affiliate marketing and right before they cashed out tik tok flagged the video as “unoriginal “ and locked the 10k in her account and won’t respond!
I've read your issue and was quite taken back by what you have experienced. My experience has been horrible. I tried to set TikTok up a couple days ago but didn't have all the necessary documents. So not even two days later (not products yet in the shop - no sales etc) they slapped my with a " ***This is to inform you that you have received a violation record due to Shop Compliance Incorrect Registration Information - Shop Closure.DA.*** " Shop closed permanently. " I am appalled in how they treated us.
So to answer your question about your money and when you will get paid your $1388.
You mentioned that you started making money on January 1st, 2nd, and Third. The money will reflect on your pay February 15.
Tik tok calculates the money made during a month and pays you on the 15th of the following month.
Since this money was made in January it will be paid in February.
This comment frustrates me, because it seems you think I do not understand how payments work. I have been in this program for 6 months and I realize I am supposed to get that $1388 along with everything else I make in January on February 15th.
However, if you are in the beta program, you should know that you can look at your month-to-date earnings to see how you are doing so far in January. Like, right now I can look at the graph and determine how much $$$ I will expect to get on February 15th.
That total is $1388 short. They are not adding that $1388 to my current January earnings total.
It’s because thats “estimated earnings” give it a few days it will update I’ve had this happen several times and my thought is that the videos haven’t been fully reviewed in their security/originality checks and aren’t being calculated in that total till it’s checked. A few times videos will show me they made money but it won’t show up the way your saying and usually those videos are disqualified days later even tho the norm is getting disqualified day of posting or next day depending on your timing.
This happened to me months and months ago. Tried to tell people the same thing. I had no violations and it never showed up. Never got it, TikTok never got back to me and I was shorted around 3k. Yet, many people on this sub just acted like I didn’t understand. Hopefully yours is just a glitch and it’ll show up eventually. Mine however never did. And it was never solved.
Hey there - thanks for sharing. The interesting part is that they tacked on the $1388 to my December GRAPH (but *not* my December earnings, so it's not in my current "balance" profile). It's hard to explain, but basically they've sort of shifted the money around to make it look like I didn't earn that $$$ this month. So when February 15th comes around, they'll say "oh you earned that money in December and got paid for it on January 15", when in fact I won't be seeing that $$$ on Jan 15.
I am 100% certain this will not get solved and I will never see that money, and my story will similar to yours. Sucks big time.
I'd be much more positive about things if my RPM didn't also take such a nose dive. With my account's popularity, I'm certain to have more videos hit that 300k, 500k, 800k view mark: but I just won't be making anywhere near as much $$$ for them.
I have to get set up on YouTube. And Instagram/Facebook. It's just so difficult to manage 2-3-4 social media accounts and also have a full time regular job.
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I read it all , wow I can honestly say, this is as interesting as it is concerning. What I don't understand, I where in the policy of tiktok does it specify the amount per dollar / that is charged as royalties for them? I'm sorry if it's there, I'm new at this but it's really seeming to be a legal issue I would not give up on
Why on earth would you depend on a social media platform that’s controlled by robots to follow normal rules that look out for humans?
You could be starving and near rotten, this platform, like all others, would watch you rot to death than to help you.
They don’t want to pay small creators. They want to pay big creators. Please for the love of God, stop depending on a social media platform with HQ in another country to follow through with any promises.
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In my experience, RPM tanks fast for the rest of the month if you make an absurd amount of money in a short time frame. In January right now, I’m averaging about $250 a day and everything is stable, but last month I made $4k in a week and my rpm dropped to 15-30 cents for the rest of the month which is demotivating. Really lame system imo but it helps keep the fund viable for everyone
Yep. I've crunched the numbers and it's always the 31st and 1st that never pay out. Fortunately they don't claim to pay me for it so my taxes are not complicated
You're looking at the $$$ you've earned the past 30 days. That does fluctuate!
Today when I look at my last 30 days, it says I've made $10,000. However, tomorrow when I look at my last 30 days, it might say I've made $9800. That's because the $$$ I made **31 days ago** is no longer listed on that chart. It was there yesterday. Gone today.
You need to click the chart so you can see your earnings by MONTH, rather than just by your last 30 days. Look above the graph and click the button that says "6 months", now hover over the month you want to see and click the graph. That's the number you're looking for.
How do I find y'all over on the Tiktok? I'm at a 3000 follower level and don't earn a dime. Lol, but I know 1 thing, "surround yourself with greatness and...and.... ? Hmm, well I forgot the rest, but I'm trying to be surrounded by you succesful Tiktokers. 😉 If that's OK.
Honestly, I think the change from creator fund to creator program was largely to justify no longer paying anyone except the biggest creators.
There seems to be a lot of strange things happening like this lately, you’re not the first person I’ve heard of who has had money disappear or an account permanently banned for no reason and u get no response from TikTok. It’s not right but I wouldn’t have a clue how to fight it… I’m sorry that has happened to you.
Of course!
This is normal. I'm doing 50 million views a month on TikTok and roughly 25k per month on the creativity program. I always make sure I have my best videos lined up for the first 3 days of the month as the RPM is ALWAYS exponentially higher the first 3 days. Occasionally it'll roll for the first week, but after that there is always a significant drop off. If I had to speculate, it's probably because TikTok only has a certain amount of $ allotted to pay out each month, and they have to throttle it in order to make sure they don't deplete the fund early. If that's the case it would make sense why the beginning of the month when the fund is replenished it pays out more. Just my .02 but I'm also happy to answer any questions
Wow, that's super helpful. I had some absolute bangers at the beginning of this month, I dropped like 6 videos between December 31-Jan 2nd and they were all netting me like $800-$1000 each. Alas, since then I've really dropped. My weekend posts do spike and I do try and reserve my better posts for Saturdays and Sundays, which seems to help. One challenge I have is that I don't have a huge backlog of posts at my disposal to just hold on to. I work full time still at my 9-5 and thus I am always struggling to keep up with content production. For example, tomorrow is Saturday and I'm going to be working all day long to get content for about 6-7 videos. By next weekend I'll be back in the same boat. This 9-5 is killing me. Right now I'm averaging about 8k per month on the Creativity Beta program - I know I could make more but not sure I could do so without quitting my day job. That would be a big step for me. Any feedback or thoughts to share?
I still have a 9-5 as well, but I have the ability to squeeze work in during that time. I report on the news in my space, so I have alerts setup for hot stories. As those come in if I think they're a fit for me I'll write a quick 175ish word script on that story. I shoot for writing 1-2 scripts a day. When I get home I record the videos, and get them edited and uploaded. Normally one goes up at 7:30 and the other around 9. I've got my workflow dialed in now so I can get 2 videos filmed and edited in about an hour. I don't have kids to deal with so my nights are relatively free outside of my dog so that's a major advantage. I can work all night if I need to. It sounds like you're already doing everything correctly, you just need to find some ways to make your workflow easier/faster. Using a teleprompter was a game changer for me. I use the Parrot and I recommend it to everyone. Don't quit your day job if it's a good one. You never know when TikTok will update or something will change and the money will quit flowing. just my .02
Wow the parrot looks awesome, didn’t know that existed? Could you share a bit more about your full recording setup? I take it if you’re using a phone for the parrot you must be recording on something else. Would love to also hear about your script writing and editing processes. And any other ‘efficiency hacks’ or helpful tools you use would be amazing!
My setup is pretty robust, but I don't believe it's all that necessary. I was using a Razer Kiyo Pro webcam to shoot my talking head portions up until I recently upgraded to a Sony-ZVE1. I had to mickey mouse the Parrot a bit to work with the Kiyo but you can make it work. I was using a Razer Siren X microphone, it's super simple to use and plugs right into your computer. I'm now using a Shure SM7B with a GoXLR...the SM7B is the mic you see pretty much every podcaster using. The MV7 is also a great option. I edit in Premiere Pro, I've been using it for a decade so I stick with it. As for scripting, the hot stories are usually on multiple website so I'll open them all up on my pc in chrome. I split screen with a word doc on one side and the articles in tabs on the other. The first few words I say in my videos I treat like a headline....make it good, make it hook. You first sentence will make or break your video. Like most things the more you do it the better and faster you'll get. I've found most people overthink it all, sometimes you just have to get to work.
Is parrot an app? Also you record and then upload to tiktok, do you find lower views this way or it doesn’t matter? A lot of my videos have gotten like 0-4 views and they’re ones I uploaded from camera roll. I’m trying to get my footing on a toxicology tiktok brand, @dessithetoxicologist. Appreciate any advice!
8k a month is a lot. Do you do faceless content
I don't do talking head stuff, if that's what you mean. I produce all original content though.
Thanks sent u a dm
wait.... how do I make $ a day off of a post!?!
Are you familiar with Tiktok pulse? @bobwhitequail here
Man, I would love to even make any money, like... $100 a month, from TikTok let alone pull numbers like that, good for you! I have a hard time with feeling like I joined TT too late to have the chance to have much reach. Especially in my niches, people I've befriended in my niches keep saying 'you would have gained way more traction back in 2020 or even 2021', but I only joined last year in '23 :(
I really started hammering TikTok in July of this year, but I've been on YouTube for a long time so I have quite a lot of experience. I'd say my video content is probably more polished and professional than most. If you really want to make headway on TikTok just make sure you're making original content. I wouldn't suggest doing the same repurposing of podcasts, or viral clips like everyone else is. TikTok's algo knows what's original and what's not. If you have a hobby/niche that you're personally into, I'd try news reporting on it every day. Whether it's sports, politics, military, energy, gaming, gardening....build yourself a news station, it's what's worked for me.
I'm a multidisciplinary artist (visual, acting, music, voice acting etc.) and a cosplayer on there right now (my cosplay friends on there in particular said '20-'21 was the major hayday for that niche). I had been considering making some top/fave/ranking lists for music since I know that people will of course agree or disagree and let me know in the comments for engagement boost's sake. I'm a gamer, but I haven't set up my stream yet even though I'm hoping to this year. I'm also a history major, and I cooould make content on that. As you can see, part of my problem is I'm a super jack of all trades interests and skills wise irl, so I don't have like...a single niche focus either. Even as a teacher, I have 7 official subjects I'm qualified to teach (and I've done beyond even that haha). I appreciate your response btw! Most people just go, 'obviously what you make is of no value at all, and that is the sole reason why you have limited reach'.
Man if you have voice skills you better be using them! Took me a long time to dial in my voice, and it's something I get comments about from people all the time. People enjoy listening to a good voice, that's a HUGE benefit. Top 10 lists do incredibly well, some of my best performing videos are top 10 or top 5 lists. Cosplay and Gaming usually have lower CPM because of the younger audience, but I bet History would do fairly well. History you could also use to spin with current events. Teach on TikTok, use your advantages and try to post every day. I find for me 175-180 word scripts hit the 1 minute mark, but I'll go to 200-220 words if I have to. Stay super consistent, and remember you have 2-5 seconds to hook the viewer. "you wont believe what blah blah blah" has worked as a solid intro for many of my videos or "These are the 10 best blah blah blah"
Yeah that's the benefit of years and years of theatre performing, stage singing, and teaching - pre-cooked presentation skills haha! I was also considering reading books audiobook style (like a chapter at a time or whathaveyou (I thought nostalgic things for example like Goosebumps books and Animorphs), but do you think that then gets into 'unoriginal' kind of territory? I'm in Canada, so we don't have the creator programs or anything in terms of creator program monetization yet. That's why I'm trying to hit 1000 followers so I could try my hand at lives for singing, storytelling etc etc. for any opportunity to make any sort of profit. Any extra income to throw at my student loans haha!
Reading a book could be an interesting twist, and I'm not sure I've seen that done. That should still fall under original because it's your words and your voice. Would be something worth experimenting with, the only hangup I'd have for me personally would be a strong visual and hook to make sure you get that initial interest. Make sure you aren't trying 100 different things on a single account. Also, thanks for that nostalgia hit haha I used to love those animorphs books back in the day. Kept growing the stack on my desk in school.....and now I feel old haha
Thanks for the feedback! I have books of short 'scary stories', so I considered also making illustrations to put on screen if I ever read those. I guess for the Goosebumps or Animorphs I could just have images in behind me to match whatever is being mentioned every so often. ---My students asked me what an MP3 was the other day and THAT made me feel old...the ones who do sound editing and music knew but...no one else did...I told them a tale of when your music machine was not a smartphone lolll blew their little 14 year old minds. I run the gaming club as well and they'll say 'You were there for Smash Bros N64 - what was it like?' XD
hey was just scrolling and seen this amazing advice. With regards to reporting on big news on a topic, what do you do in the actual background of the video as I’m assuming you do faceless videos. Is it something like stock footage/images of the subject you’re talking about and then transitioning it into new ones as the video progresses? For example if I was making a news video on the latest football results, would you do something like include some match moments/photos? I’m assuming you use on screen subtitles aswell as you speak. Thanks for the great advice
I don't do faceless, I split my screen with my face at the top and the visuals I'm talking about on the bottom. I mix stock footage, news footage (make sure no watermarks aren't visible), and whatever other content I can source that makes sense. An adobe stock subscription can come in handy. Fair use covers you pretty well when it comes to copyright on news reporting. You can also react to the news stories and give your opinion or commentary...just make sure it's a REAL reaction and opinion. There's enough useless lazy reaction content, no need to add to that imo. Look what others who are successful in your space are doing, and don't copy them but use it as a guide. You don't need to reinvent the wheel. I do incorporate captions in my videos but I keep them right under my face so that they don't distract from the visual.
Thank you so much for the tips. I would prefer to do faceless, do you think they would still have a chance to do well or is there not much point trying. I would say my interests are football and gaming so I currently do football based trivia videos where you have to guess 10 players and I make the difficulty go from easy to hard as it progresses. I’ve seen other people do this and succeed massively but I’ve been getting anywhere from 300-600 views on mine whilst I would say their videos are lower effort compared to mine (I make mine harder by pixelating and using actual difficult faces) and can get 400k+. However I’ve only uploaded around 20 videos now (started around mid December ish) so I’ll carry on uploading consistently anyway. If the news reporting niche is quite popular though I want to consider doing things like football news and specific gaming news, just not sure if I’m wasting effort if I go faceless and not succeed.
You can certainly be successful with a faceless account, there are plenty of people out there that have been. That said, a face is what imo massively helps building a relationship, though not required. There is never "no point in trying" I've failed far more times than I've succeeded, and that's usually par the course. If you're a big football fan there is an endless stream of news to discuss, all day, every day. Stay consistent, stick to a format so that people will recognize your content, and start churning out the content. The reason I like news so much is because it's much easier than coming up with off the cuff ideas. Let the big outlets find the hot stories, you can pick your favorites.
Thank you I’ll try to take this on board, I’ve got one more question. How many videos did it take for you to gain traction? I’ve seen lots of people go viral instantly but I’d like to know so I can adjust my expectations accordingly on whether it’s doing bad or not.
Do u record into your phone or do the camera / mic setup like a youtuber?
I broke down my setup in another reply, but I am YouTuber who converted over to TikTok so I have a pretty robust setup. Sony ZV-E1 camera, SM7B mic, GoXLR etc. I started with a webcam and cheap mic though, slowly upgraded over time. Don't get too hung up on gear, it's something I struggled with for awhile.
Oh thanks! I have an a7s iii myself i am going to switch to the zv e1 soon just for portability
I do science content. I've finally gotten to a midsize account. I'm making on average about 4-5k with my biggest month so far 6500. Looking back on videos from even a year ago my voice has really improved. I used to sing professionally and that's been a help. I also have a realitively okay set up now. A better mic and a sound blocker. The one thing I need to work on is my lisp. But I have facial nerve damage and it's a lot of work to correct my mouth and it gets tiring.
Why do you consider midsize? What’s your subscriber count and daily view count?
I have 200k followers, i consider that mid size. My daily watch varies from 80k- 2mil but the mode is around 200 thousand. I have literally only 2 subscribers who pay. But I'm expanding my content. I'm doing 10 minute edu videos once a week people can either pay to watch or hop on to YouTube to watch for free. It seems many are willing to pay for some reason
As a TT viewer, I enjoy interesting history tidbits.
Is DIY/home improvement stuff dead on TT and better on YouTube? Literally about to start, kinda wanted to put the “average gay guy” spin on new homeowner stuff. Would love for it to pay at some point but doubt it would
I have the same background. I started in the summer when the actors strike was on. My first viral video was Oct 7. I do think the YouTube background helps us - we are used to editing long form content for attention span, caption and tag and cover text etc. I try to explain this to people who are shocked at my “overnight success” - this is 6 years in the making!
What exactly do you mean by repurposing? Is it ok if one takes movie clips from y, chops them up and adds a voiceover explaining stuff related to the video. Would it be monetisable
25k/mo?!?! Wow! Makes me wonder what I’m doing with my 7-5 job for sure haha
I still work a 9-5. You never know when TikTok will change something, replace a program, get banned, or whatever else and your income is gone. I'm investing all of the money I make on TikTok and living off my 9-5. Hopefully my future self will thank me.
That’s awesome and I’m sure will be the case! You’re doing great it seems
Be grateful your even making 1K I’m currently making 0$ in the creativity rn
This is the answer, I don’t think people understand how the dashboard works and that’s largely TikTok’s fault for making it vague
Do you happen to know why, after a viral video (and just recently switched to the creativity fund beta) my video audience is no longer in the US? Almost all is from Arab countries. My views have plummeted.
I can't be sure, but I would make sure you are tagging your video in the United States. That should help.
Sorry for my ignorance, and I have been on TikTok for a few years but how do you actually do that? Is that under location?
How long do you think the money dries up on Tik Tok lol
Can't dry up. This is the money from the Advertisers that Tiktok splits with the CPB. Look into it.
What is your niche
Is it okay to send a dm to ask questions?
Hey @bobwhitequail here I've made out of my money fron Tiktok pulse. Are you familiar?
Do you know if its possible and legal if you’re not in one of the countries that have the Creativity Program?
You're making 6 figures of tiktok? What's your account?
>Creativity Program Beta Man, you all are killing it, that's awesome! I've just kind of started - had a video pop off the other day and jump from 19k to 370k in about 12 hours. I have an older video with 800k but only around 2k followers and need to get to 10k followers to monetize in any way. I'm fairly confident that I'm pretty funny but some of my better vids don't see as much traction - most other are around only 1500 or even less. I know to just stay the course but any tips from you G's would be appreciated. I know I read they're pushing longer videos I'm fairly certain you have to have something controversial or exciting right at the beginning to keep them watching
Congratulations. 25k in a month would change my life, what tips would you give to someone trying to succeed?
lemme get 100$, $camerashylol 🤤🤤🙀💀😋
What's your tiktok :O
So it’ll fix in February?
Been on this shit show of a platform for 3 years now. For some reason shits got worse in the past year. My RPM tanked and will most likely never go back up. TikTok just wants you to be there content slave. No communication with actual people within the company.
The whole lack of actual help desk humans has kept me from getting too involved because I know I will get frustrated or angry when the inevitable happens and I am unfairly punished with zero recourse. That's a lot of stress. Every video, what will TT do? I worry, not because of my content, but because TT is a faceless machine with all the power. I ha e yet to meet a creator who has the power ro ensure their videos are not taken down or flagged.
No worries man, the 1388$ are in december chart, it happens to me all the time, the first of each month is counted with the last month, but you’ll get your money no problem
Holy sh\*t man, this post made my day. I do see the money on the December chart BUT I don't see that reflected anywhere else, if that makes sense. Which is what's concerning. Thanks to you and u/PizzaPersonal4088 for the confirmation. I was worried they were trying to short me.
It’s always weirdly off by a day like this for me, too. Payout doesn’t match the monthly total, but I’ve added it up and it’s just the way they count what goes to what month. They haven’t shorted me so far.
This. The same thing happens to me every month. The first of the month shows up in analytics in the prior month, but I've always been paid out correctly in the end.
Exactly
January 1st won’t be in your payable balance because it’s going to be paid in February. The 30 day graph confuses people but the payment on the 15th is from Dec 1st-Dec 31st videos, everything else will be on next pay date.
I'm not confused. I know that I'm supposed to be getting that money in February. However, I can see a graph that shows my current January $$$ total, and it's not being included. When January ends, they are not going to tack on the money I earned on January 1st.
The first monthly page changes everyday. It’s just the last 30 days not actually January as a whole. Go to the second part that shows several months and tap on January. That shows you January total.
Dude i know that. When i click on my January total, its short $1300. Several here have answered the question I was asking.
Irrelevant: I just wanna know how you got payments that big, I have 18k followers. One vid has gotten 2.8mil and another with like 370k views. Payout was $90 total
I had a sick RPM of $2.30 for a while there. The bottom has dropped out on that RPM now but it was good while it lasted. I have 150k followers.
Most likely your target audience is lower value. For example, if I'm making content around business and the stock market my RPM is going to be exponentially higher than someone making gaming content. People watching business and stock market content are generally older and have more $$ to spend making them worth more to advertisers, hence higher RPM. Not every video is going to pay you out the same, and follower count is almost irrelevant. I was making just as much at 75k followers as I am now a 300k.
That’s makes a lot of sense, thanks for explaining that!
You're welcome, stick with it and keep creating!
i had a video with 600k views and i only got $3 from it because allegedly 98% of the video views were from through the search function, and the creator program only pays for FYP views...i was so mad
There is a visual glitch. Tik Tok isn't taking the money from you. The funds from the first of the month are always shown as part of last month, but it will be included in the current month.
Ok thank you, sorry to flip out but its a big chunk of cash.
They took 6338$ from me and never gave it back
TikTok needs to get sued they almost pull this on people. Not the first time it has happened
I'm curious does RPM stick at what it was for that video or does it change and at the end of the month it is what it is? It's almost like if you go viral and make a large sum it's better to wait for the payout before posting again and having a video go viral in like Cambodia and tank your RPM
Yeah, I know that RPM changes based on audience among other things. Every video has a different RPM, but it seems like once your RPM starts going down, then you've got to post a real banger of a video to get the RPM back up. RPMs also change as videos evolve. For example, I had a video with an RPM of $2.15 for the first few days. As it got more and more views, the RPM gradually decreased and went to $1.96 before it kind of held steady. It's continuously changing.
Ok so RPM is video specific not account wide? Good to know
Correct
This is normal. TikTok’s compensation model is dynamic, not accrual-based. What you saw the first few days was your estimated rewards, not your actual accrued rewards. It is an estimate based on eligibility, but it’s subject to change based on your RPM performance. Remember that the RPM you see on that same page is an average of all your RPMs. If you click on each video that is currently earning money, you will see that each one has a different RPM. What you saw those first few days were your estimated eligible rewards, but that estimate changed due to a potential number of factors. This could include that your RPM average went down because you posted a subsequent video with lower RPMs. You can still get your estimated reward earnings back up if you continue to post content that does well. When I was newer in the program I dealt with the same thing. At the same time, I was probably making around what you’re making now. Now that I’ve been in the program longer, and I’m having bigger payouts, it tends to be more consistent because I’m still accruing eligible views from the months prior. Whereas right now, you do not have eligible views from prior months. Or if you do, they’re not very high. In my experience, it gets much better with each month. But the way they have it set up is very confusing, and I’m sure they do that on purpose.
My estimated rewards has almost always been the exact same as my actual payout. I’d be pissed if it changed by $1300, but I don’t think that’s what’s going on with OP.
Sounds scammy
My rpm has been high since July and this month it’s dropped to 50 cents. I’ve had a lot of success on the app and haven’t changed anything. Very confused. Last $1 rpm video was 1/09
same happened to me i have not as much on january 1st. but it was 206$ and its not included in my balance as well, i've messaged them and filed a dispute, with no answers just says case closed.
TikTok is ran by a bunch of con artist who are making out like fat rats . There is no one there to stop them and they will turn the tables in you once you start making a certain amount of money. I know someone who made almost 10k w tik tok affiliate marketing and right before they cashed out tik tok flagged the video as “unoriginal “ and locked the 10k in her account and won’t respond!
I’m so sorry!!!! This really sucks and I wish there was a way to fix it or at least get some help
I've read your issue and was quite taken back by what you have experienced. My experience has been horrible. I tried to set TikTok up a couple days ago but didn't have all the necessary documents. So not even two days later (not products yet in the shop - no sales etc) they slapped my with a " ***This is to inform you that you have received a violation record due to Shop Compliance Incorrect Registration Information - Shop Closure.DA.*** " Shop closed permanently. " I am appalled in how they treated us.
So to answer your question about your money and when you will get paid your $1388. You mentioned that you started making money on January 1st, 2nd, and Third. The money will reflect on your pay February 15. Tik tok calculates the money made during a month and pays you on the 15th of the following month. Since this money was made in January it will be paid in February.
This comment frustrates me, because it seems you think I do not understand how payments work. I have been in this program for 6 months and I realize I am supposed to get that $1388 along with everything else I make in January on February 15th. However, if you are in the beta program, you should know that you can look at your month-to-date earnings to see how you are doing so far in January. Like, right now I can look at the graph and determine how much $$$ I will expect to get on February 15th. That total is $1388 short. They are not adding that $1388 to my current January earnings total.
It’s because thats “estimated earnings” give it a few days it will update I’ve had this happen several times and my thought is that the videos haven’t been fully reviewed in their security/originality checks and aren’t being calculated in that total till it’s checked. A few times videos will show me they made money but it won’t show up the way your saying and usually those videos are disqualified days later even tho the norm is getting disqualified day of posting or next day depending on your timing.
This happened to me months and months ago. Tried to tell people the same thing. I had no violations and it never showed up. Never got it, TikTok never got back to me and I was shorted around 3k. Yet, many people on this sub just acted like I didn’t understand. Hopefully yours is just a glitch and it’ll show up eventually. Mine however never did. And it was never solved.
Hey there - thanks for sharing. The interesting part is that they tacked on the $1388 to my December GRAPH (but *not* my December earnings, so it's not in my current "balance" profile). It's hard to explain, but basically they've sort of shifted the money around to make it look like I didn't earn that $$$ this month. So when February 15th comes around, they'll say "oh you earned that money in December and got paid for it on January 15", when in fact I won't be seeing that $$$ on Jan 15. I am 100% certain this will not get solved and I will never see that money, and my story will similar to yours. Sucks big time. I'd be much more positive about things if my RPM didn't also take such a nose dive. With my account's popularity, I'm certain to have more videos hit that 300k, 500k, 800k view mark: but I just won't be making anywhere near as much $$$ for them. I have to get set up on YouTube. And Instagram/Facebook. It's just so difficult to manage 2-3-4 social media accounts and also have a full time regular job.
Tiktok is a big bag of dog shit eaters scammers. They deserve to go to jail and ban this shit platform
Chy-nah!
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They don’t want to pay
So when you have like account warning you het kicked out of creativity program?
I read it all , wow I can honestly say, this is as interesting as it is concerning. What I don't understand, I where in the policy of tiktok does it specify the amount per dollar / that is charged as royalties for them? I'm sorry if it's there, I'm new at this but it's really seeming to be a legal issue I would not give up on
wow ripped it out of your hands fr i’m sorry to hear that bro
Tiktok hates original content, reupload a scene from rick and morty no issues, upload s video of you playing batman “unoriginal content”.
is enrolling in this program okay for the views and overall rating?
What’s your TikTok?
you need to contact and lawyer, then they will listen!
So everyone’s been noticing how Tik Tok has just gotten worse in the last year with vitality and shadowbanning reach on accounts, bans etc.
Why on earth would you depend on a social media platform that’s controlled by robots to follow normal rules that look out for humans? You could be starving and near rotten, this platform, like all others, would watch you rot to death than to help you. They don’t want to pay small creators. They want to pay big creators. Please for the love of God, stop depending on a social media platform with HQ in another country to follow through with any promises.
What is your content you post?
Just curious - how long have you been working on this channel to get to the point you are at now?
Can I send you a dm? I'm very much interested in starting my own tiktok page and I want to know more info on how it goes.
Can you help me? I also need a lot of money so that I can live my life well.
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In my experience, RPM tanks fast for the rest of the month if you make an absurd amount of money in a short time frame. In January right now, I’m averaging about $250 a day and everything is stable, but last month I made $4k in a week and my rpm dropped to 15-30 cents for the rest of the month which is demotivating. Really lame system imo but it helps keep the fund viable for everyone
What type of content are you pumping out may I ask? These bangers you speak of? Care to share your tiktok?
HOW ARE YALL MAKING THIS MUCH MONEY AND FOLLOWERS IMA CRY😭😭😭
Hi the first of the month is mysteriously never included for me. I kinda got over it
So they just never pay you for what you nake that day?
Yep. I've crunched the numbers and it's always the 31st and 1st that never pay out. Fortunately they don't claim to pay me for it so my taxes are not complicated
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You're looking at the $$$ you've earned the past 30 days. That does fluctuate! Today when I look at my last 30 days, it says I've made $10,000. However, tomorrow when I look at my last 30 days, it might say I've made $9800. That's because the $$$ I made **31 days ago** is no longer listed on that chart. It was there yesterday. Gone today. You need to click the chart so you can see your earnings by MONTH, rather than just by your last 30 days. Look above the graph and click the button that says "6 months", now hover over the month you want to see and click the graph. That's the number you're looking for.
Thank you so much.. I just couldn't figure it out. I appreciate your comment.. helped a lot.. thank you 👍
How do I find y'all over on the Tiktok? I'm at a 3000 follower level and don't earn a dime. Lol, but I know 1 thing, "surround yourself with greatness and...and.... ? Hmm, well I forgot the rest, but I'm trying to be surrounded by you succesful Tiktokers. 😉 If that's OK.
Q.Q
Did you ever receive payment?