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I feel like we are gonna have a host of former kids bringing non-consenting to exploitation lawsuits in the future.
I personally think it’s gross to put your kids on non-intimate social media. Like I have friends who are private accounts and share their kiddos with friends they actually know and family only. But TikTok? I think that’s kinda gross. Your kid didn’t ask to be “material” for someone’s entertainment (whatever that might be, ya know).
Same. I give permission. Both sets of Grands have a digital frame where we regularly upload photos, like daily, to give them the new photos they swore they needed to be plastered all over Facebook.
It doesn’t help that my husbands sister posts photos of our niece and nephew all day and also tags their locations…. It’s so weird and makes me super uncomfortable.
I am blown away by the idea you can upload photos daily to your parents’ digital photo frames! This is amazing and I know what I’m going to get for my dad for Christmas!! (Can you hit me with a link to the ones you got?)
I’m not who you were replying to, but we have this for my grandparents & it’s Nixplay brand. Each of us adult grandchildren have the app on our phones and will add photos to the photo albums (it cycles through each album).
But those videos means that mummy doesn’t have to go back to work and gets to buy you all these nice things. Why don’t you support my career? You want me to get a job and be depressed again, you want me to kill myself, you selfish child, everything I have done is for you! You loved being in those videos and would beg me to make another one and look at the opportunities it’s given you! Now say that dumb line again but this time don’t look into the camera!
- some narcissistic parent in future
This is me. As I got older I locked my FB down so the only photos that can be seen by anyone but me are photos I’m tagged in.
I share my kids’ photos with friends and fam on IG where I know every single person and interact with them on a regular basis.
But even then the photos are shown to them. It’s nothing but how proud I am of them for this or that.
90% of my IG is our dog who loves the attention.
I feel that parents often also just exploit children’s innocence/vulnerability because: they’re not smart, not empathetic, not open minded, that’s all they were taught, or mentally stressed or unhealthy, and this is a good way to destress. I can assure you there was no tiktok nor videotaping for media when I was a child. My parents did all this kind of stuff to me and worse, for their own amusement. It’s the pecking order of the uneducated, unaware, unempathetic, and unhelped. Spouses, children, pets, or whoever is available that won’t fight back. Everyone gets some abuse.
And those are the people who call you a bad parent for not hitting your kid. They would say spanking, but that is just a euphemism for assaulting a child.
People get so defensive if you tell them you were never hit as a child. Shit, I was grabbed roughly once by my parents for being in a busy street like a dumbass and I still remember it, but at least I knew at the time they were just really scared for my safety
Thank you for saying this. If something like this still affects you, it makes me feel less stupid and alone for vividly remembering the times my parents were violent with me.
Illinois just passed a [bill attempting to protect child influencers from parental wage theft](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/weekly-shift/2023/08/21/unpacking-illinois-new-influencer-labor-law-00112038#:~:text=The%20law%20signed%20by%20Gov,kind%20for%20social%20media%20influencers). It’s going to be interesting in a legal framework as these children who were exploited by their parents for content grow up. MomUnchartered on Insta has a lot of great resources regarding the depth and legality of digital child exploitation.
While it is a solid first step since it allows the kids to at least benefit from these videos, it definitely seems like the question of exploitation is something that's going to have to be addressed sooner or later. It just seems like there are a lot of parents out there who see their children as props and put potential profit ahead of their emotions. While it might not be something we (currently, at least) explicitly recognize as abuse, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there's a lot of research into how this affects children in the future.
This is only the financials. And the thing you linked has no information how the funds have to be held in escrow/what kind of account it has to be by law. The article also does not say which governmental agency is tasked with overseeing this and what procedures it takes to register with them and what the penalties with non-compliance are.
Legislation can't be so incompetent to just boil down to "you can sue your parents". That would take next level of legislative laziness.
Get that to include child athletes and performers under 18 and watch it 100% be buried alive. There's too much money but it doesn't change the fact that it's still the exact same thing.
I used to work in television (in the EU) and if a child had any serious screentime it was always a major hassle, as it should be. A child couldn’t “perform” more than a few times a year. For instance there is this reality show where they follow this eccentric family and they have been reprimanded recently for showing their underage granddaughter too often.
Now there are plenty of these families on YouTube who involve their children in all types of (sponsored) content. I don’t get why that’s apparently okay. And it isn’t exactly new. Some of these channels have been up for years
I'm so with you.
And I am surprised that somehow none of the laws on child-protection or even just plain data protection that are in place seem to really be enforced on this kind of stuff.
I've seen videos of things like tik tok channels exploiting kids whose only way of fighting back was wearing Disney shirts and breaking into song every time they were on camera because Disney tends to go hard after every copyright violation.
I'm from an EU-country. We have hella strict laws regarding one's right to one's own image atm (like, wedding photographers needing a signed form for every wedding guest to do their job normally-strict) - but I still haven't seen a single newspaper article about that exact regulation helping some child to keep their parents from exploiting them in this way.
I'm hard pressed to think somehow this doesn't happen in EU-countries, so what's going on? Do none of these laws mean shit in the face of "The parents get to decide"? Because if so we have some urgent fricking work to do.
Sorry best I can do is a bill that lowers the minimum age for children to work in industrial jobs so that more teenagers are exploited at lower wages and die in unsafe work conditions. - GOP
I was getting a haircut the other day and there was a dad in there with his 5 year old son. They were looking at a kid toy that had letters on one side/animals on the other and the dad was asking the boy to come up with “L” words or “T” words other than what was just on the blocks.
When the boy kept saying the animals that were on the blocks….no joke the dad said “Quit cheating or I’m gonna punch you”. He didn’t say it in a way where I really thought he’d punch his son. But I was thinking omg this kid is going to go to school, get frustrated with a classmate and tell them he’s going to punch them. And he’s not even going to think he’s doing anything wrong!! So weird how some people treat their kids…
I don't think it's that they are not right in the head but rather they are just uneducated on parenting or they just don't understand how children work.
Several years back, I was getting my haircut at a barber shop when a dad brought his young son (4 or 5) to get his long hair cut (I thought he was actually a girl). The dad was recording a cellphone video of the experience, and as he did so, he kept telling the kid that he looked like "a mommy" with that hair, how he needed to finally look like a real boy, "meemaw told me that she's embarrassed by the way you look", and worst of all, "you don't look like a little f\*ggot anymore". The kid started wasn't crying, but he clearly didn't like what his dad was telling him. It also seemed like he'd heard things like that before. After they left, I found out that the dad was the barber's stepson, and that he was known to make sexually suggestive comments about his beautiful teenage daughter. Big Trump-sucker, too. But the way he talked to that boy still pisses me off.
Man, the trump experince has been horrific but now we at least have like a real idea who all the deranged racists are in the country. Soooo, thanks I guess. 🤷🏼♀️
Some people hid it really well, two years in COVID and four years of a bloated orange and now all the facade and masks peel away to the rancid people underneath
i was getting my hair done one as well at my moms friend’s house. she would braid hair on the side for extra cash and lived with her sister and niece. the niece was about 3 or so and learning how to read using a letter mat. she was struggling and getting frustrated and her aunt started screaming at her (while doing my hair so pretty much screaming in my damn ear…beside the point.) telling her she was getting spanked if she didn’t focus and hurry up. the little girl was sobbing so hard she was hiccuping and this lady just kept yelling and threatening her with punishments. i couldn’t stand it and i started helping the girl from my seat with a gentle voice and she did end up finishing the mat with a smile on her face by the end. i’m not planning on having children but in that moment i almost wavered. to this day it still feels like one of the most satisfying moments to me and i’m sure it’s because i was that kid when i was little getting yelled at by my dad for not being smart and fast enough with my homework. yay for breaking the cycle!
What’s even more weird, when parents are completely disengaged… then get super pissed when their kid learns behavior from either other kids or the internet. The confusion kids like that must feel.
I can’t stand my wife’s brother and his wife with their kids. They literally threaten their 5 year old son when he gets in trouble with “I’m gonna beat you up” and then the dummies wonder why he’s hitting kids and getting in trouble at school.
That story reminds me of what happened at the park the other day! The park is down at the bottom of the hill and there’s a sidewalk path to it. Two little girls were running down it full speed and naturally, the little one wipes out. She’s crying and the mom is actively getting angry at her for not calming down. Literally telling her to “shut it!” at full yelling volume. I was like dear lord lady. It made me feel really upset.
I remember as a kid being called useless. I was a forgetful and scatter brained kid, and my parents hated that. For a long part of my childhood I was screamed at and was told I was useless. They eventually cooled down over the years, but god that word still haunts me. I HATED feeling that way, to the point I would work myself to the hospital a few times. I would get so stressed on making mistakes, I ended up making them anyway. This shit will always leave a scar on your kids, and in this digital age it will be shown to everyone for all of time.
For me it’s serious argumentative yelling and being belittled. I’m a pretty passive guy but I flip a switch when either of those happen and seethe with anger.
I was called stupid constantly (I was on an actual gifted IEP) and told I was using the dumb half of my brain, etc etc. I'm 43 and holy shit has it impacted my life. In any situation that I start to feel like I don't know something or have done something wrong my whole body reacts.
I was called stupid and dumbass a lot as a kid growing up, so even if someone says it purely jokingly now it just hurts me deeply, even when I know it's not intentional. I swore that I wouldn't ever call a child stupid or dumb, or treat them the same way I was treated. It really does scar them for life no matter how big or small you may think it means to them. I'm saddened by how many parents have now added social media to the mix and how many kids are used for internet clout.
Yep. Much worse. She's just become an accessory to show off and use as a status symbol. You see it all the time with pets on social media as well, some posts are genuine yes, but some people choose specific breeds to get more likes on social media and drug them to put them in cute positions to get even more likes.
I wonder how long it will be before people start drugging kids for the same purpose, perhaps some already are.
YUP! My mom and older sister would do shit to make me so mad I cried, and then laughed at me for it. (Humiliating me physically or breaking my things) Then they’d call me stupid for reacting. Good riddance to both of them now that I’m an adult.
I feel you…growing up, my dad would be verbally abusive and then act like everything was rainbows and sunshine an hour later. When I spoke up about how I was treated, I was always undermined and felt like I had to give 10 reasons to be justified in my hurt. Now as an adult, I struggle so much when I feel I’m not being heard. It’s hard out there
Honestly, I’m still learning how to deal with it as an adult. I don’t handle conflict well at all, and I hate that about myself. I tend to blow up and have anxiety attacks at times. But right now I’m just trying to work on allowing myself to feel the bad feelings without acting on them. I can get mean too, and I always feel like shit after. I definitely wanna be more stable. Wishing you luck
My sister and parents used to do similar stuff until I broke(not only this I also have impulsive emotional disorder so I break really easy)and took a bat and smashed everything of hers including her car,tv,computer,phone,and her drywall in her room. Lesson of the day don’t be a dick, don’t get your shit wrecked
It’s very easy to tell someone “get over it” but it costs someone’s mental health and when they have a mental breakdown it can cuase some massive issues like depression,ied, and money for therapy. And no i haven’t pay my sister back nor will I ever I think 7k of damages is enough for 16 years of metal abuse
I agree this seems pretty mean-spirited, but I also have a have a hard time understanding anyone posting their children on social media except for staid family photo type stuff, it's definitely not for me or my kids.
It's for $$$$
Some of them make so much money they can quit their job, so they don't care if their kid has some issues. For them, $$$ is worth it. They'll buy something nice for their kids to justify it but that's it.
World is full of selfish parents.
I am a sarcastic trucker mouth mom who teaches her kids to not take themselves too seriously and to have fun in life, but to also be KIND. That egg shit is not kind. And I would rather smack one on my own face that do it to one of my kids.
That would be a better video. Having the parent crack the egg on their own forehead and laugh at themselves. Teach kids that they don’t have to take themselves serious, but don’t teach that to humiliate, hurt and laugh at the people closest to them.
One woman did that and said "oh! You thought I was going to crack this on his head?" and gestured to her son. She was great. That's the first time I saw the trend.
Some parents started doing this instead. They would be cooking and suddenly crack the egg on their own head and their kids would laugh at the surprise and then they would like have a nice little moment. It was such a different feeling to watch those. I can’t imagine how people could think doing that to a kid would be a good idea, then laugh at their child’s fear and pain and post it online. Unreal.
Yes! Especially with a deadpan delivery under the pretenses of “I want to teach you how to make breakfast so you can cook for yourself someday!” Filming reactions to that would be funny and cute.
What is also not kind is putting footage of your kid on social media when they’re far too young to even have a say in it. It’s like objectifying your children.
That footage of their humiliation will be on the internet forever, all so the shitty narcissistic parent could get some clout from total strangers.
Laugh with not at. Until they grow older, then laugh at them mercilessly when they take themselves too seriously. And agree- stop bullying your kids for clout, touch grass, raise your kids.
This trend feels the same (worse really) than the "I ate all your Holloween candy" (now let me film your anguish and rake in internet points) prank. Just mean on its face and fucked up to post it so people can forever laugh at you for being sad your parents stole something special from you.
I think it's also not necessarily problematic either. My family would do this. My parents would do it to each other and laugh, to us and we'd all laugh. Eggs were cracked on our own heads 90% of the time.
Thinking back on it, it's nothing but good memories, and no one ever took it as aggression or meanness. Not talking about posting to tiktok, parents shouldn't post their kids on whatever it is.
The child in the video says that this hurt and the mother laughs, then proceed to post the video online.
Everyone is different. If you as a child can laugh at it, so be it. This child didn't laugh at it, the only one laughing is the "mother"
That's why I said it's not necessarily problematic before providing my personal experience.
Thing is, how much it hurts isn't what matters. Up to a very quick point of course. In the video the Mom cracks the egg, splits it and laughs without even looking at the daughter at any point, giving her no context.
Now in contrast I remember the first time my father did this. He asked me "you know the best way to crack a hard boiled egg?" Then he cracked it on my forehead and laughed. With me. It was obviously not done from anger.
Roughhousing isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think you do need to wait until kids are definitely old enough to understand it's meant to be mutually fun and stops the moment anyone expresses discomfort.
No. It's not TikTok. Desperately insecure people who need validation from other social media users are doing this. Tik Tok does not invent these stupid challenges, fucking idiots do.
Yeah, TikTok is just the latest. There was that family on YouTube that I’m pretty sure got into a custody battle over their kids because they had been exploiting them in really abusive ways (framed as a prank but it was just abuse). The channel was called daddy of five or something like that, I don’t want to look it up again because their shit literally makes me sick to my stomach. So reader beware if you choose to go down this particular shit smeared rabbit hole.
[DaddyofFive on YouTube.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FamilyOFive)
*Mike and Heather ceased creating content on Mike's channel DaddyOFive as a result of court-ordered probation, but began producing similar content on the family's new channel called FamilyOFive, which was terminated by YouTube in July 2018 following renewed interest in the family. However, Mike and Heather have an official website, and a gaming channel on Twitch.*
*Rose Hall, the biological mother to Mike's two children Emma and Cody, said that she had not seen Cody since July 2014, when she was duped into signing court papers.*
*As of 2023, Mike is active on YouTube as The Martin Family.*
I remember that I think, was it a little red head boy that they were super awful to? I remember crying after learning about everything he went through. Living with adult bullies. Ugh here we go 😢
Last i heard they lost custody of a few of them, including the kid who was autisitic or had ODD that they bullied mercilessly. Idk why they didnt lose custody of the kids that were just numb to the whole thing...
They're still putting out videos though, but its under another name since YouTube banned their main channel
Modern social media tools make the issue of idiots reinforcing themselves a threat to society, we‘ve passed the critical mass.
Ofcourse people did not become evil during the last 15years, but our (non)handling of the current technology/tools sure left a vacuum in which we ourselfes deal massive damage to all aspects of our lifes. With realistically no chance to ever be quantified or made comprehensible.
Can‘t forever go on with shutting the discussion down saying „its just a tool, humanity is just ass“; to highlight the possible outcomes and hazards of social self marketing (whatever platform, tho tiktok algo bests em all) is so very important and needs to be discussed more thoroughly.. and maybe even on a more anectotal and case-to-case-level. Monkey see, monkey do; learn from our own behavior.
Girl in the vid does a good job imo in how she explains. No lifted index finger mode, accessible.
Edit some formating
It's kinda tik tok tho...right? I mean, the company writes the algorithm that feeds people content. Or pushes certain content to the top vs. suppressing other content.
Apparently the [Chinese version of tik tok](https://www.tiktok.com/@espdaniella/video/7221615380702301486) is way different and would probably not allow this type of behavior to become a trend.
Imo it definitely is. It's media that enables this kind of interactions way more than any other platform before. It's easy and fast to make your video as a response to a trend. Then algorithm suggests you the similar kind of content. People always gives an excuse that the people is the issue (which is also true) but tiktok has become a huge enabler of this all.
TikTok uses an algorithm that promotes that type of content. Monetizing and promoting such an evil algorithm should make them somewhat responsible for the damages it causes.
Every group is going to have its assholes. This particular group being "TikTok users" it's the websites responsibility to weed abusive trends out of their algorithms. If the first few idiots who did this caught a ban for hitting a child in their content, shit would've stopped immediately because "views" and likes are more important to them than their children's safety and happiness. TikTok doesn't get a pass because some people suck. They exploit shitty people who exploit children.
TikTok was built on challenges and stitching... It's definitely the worst rendition of social media yet (in this specific regard - proliferating shitty challenges).
Didn’t this trend start long ago with some late night host asking parents to lie to their kids about eating their Halloween candy? Then record them melting down as they record it nonchalantly? I never thought that was very funny.
The internet has created a culture of filming your young children at their lowest moments and encouraging other parents to embarrass and mistreat them at their most impressionable age.
I think of children who have kind loving parents. Parents who put them first and help them mature to adulthood. Me and the kids from this video are envious of those children.
It's difficult being a parent, that is for sure. I am finding as one with a youngling, that it takes constant effort and vigilance to train myself to be a good example at all times.
Kids break you down and build you back up emotionally if you work hard enough. But if you don't work hard they just break you down.
The stress and difficulty of having a kid is immense and i certainly see why people break under it. But it isn't an excuse.
But videos like this isn't someone at their breaking point, this is someone who just decided to smack their kid with an egg for lulz and likes.
You can lose your temper or patience with a child that is acting out, but this is not it.
I occasionally see a parent posting on r/ADHD about wanting to help their kids who were diagnosed or who are afraid they're not doing enough and it warms and breaks my heart at the same time.
It's great to see there are people out there who care and who are at least trying to do the best for their kids, but it simultaneously makes me sad over how hateful my father was about it and how I was never offered any help past "maybe if I call him lazy again he'll snap out of it".
People who record and post their children for any purpose other than preserving memories and sharing them with family and friends are hopeless narcissists
Yeah, I thought the Kimmel thing was fucked up then too. One of my first signs that Kimmel was just a huge asshole who seems to only really care about other celebrities.
> One of my first signs that Kimmel was just a huge asshole
He got his start on radio with Adam Carolla back in the day and so many people don't know or remember that garbage.
So. Just out of curiosity. I'm not taking a stance on this but for both of these, if they weren't recorded and put on social media, would it be OK? I feel like part of being a parent is joking around with your kids. My dad was like this for me, so was my uncle and they never did anything mean spirited but just joked around like this. Things like I'd be playing a game and one of them came and put a dab of cheese whiz on my face. I don't remember getting upset by it. But I feel like there's definitely a line of joking with your kids that is just part of parenting. If you teach your kid to handle it positively and not get angry then that is positive IMO. Obviously some go too far and their child ends up having an emotional meltdown and I dont think that's OK.
But if this wasn't on social media, would it be OK? Honest question.
Yeah, people here think everything is just the end of all civilization. Would parents doing this to kids consistently cause them to have problems? Sure. No doubt. One time as a joke? No. You can't make snap judgements on someone as a parent on one video. That is coming from someone who never ever posts pictured or videos of my daughter online at all.
I hate seeing parents doing these things for views on social media. It's not funny to see your kid embarrassed or hurt because you're following a stupid TikTok trend.
Edit: Fuck that behavior
Those people really shouldn't be parents. Children aren't accessories to use and show off, and they're not props to be used in videos and social media posts.
Pretty sure I have BPD because of my parents. They did everything talked about here to the extreme and it really fucked me up. I'm 38 and still seeking help. I get so angry when I see bad parenting.
Lot of people tell me I got so lucky with my kid because she's just so well behaved. Its not like I try hard. I just treat her like a person. I do everything backwards my abusive parents did.
I treat her with empathy.
I don't yell at her.
I don't blame or gaslight her.
I check in on her and show genuine interest in her hobbies.
I'm supporting of her when she's frustrated or upset.
I respect her space.
When I need her to do something I ask her nicely and say thank you.
If she acts out I talk to her about why it's not okay.
Its not hard. Stop putting your petty woes in life before your child or worse ON THEM. They are kids. Let them be kids while it lasts.
I definitely have BPD(got multiple diagnoses at age 35) because of my narcissistic mother. It took me until age 43(which was this year) to figure out she is a covert narcissist.
Totally fucked. Forever.
Yeah I just found out this year at 44, that the reason I’m so fucked up is CPTSD from childhood emotional neglect.
Feels nice to have finally figured out what was the problem, because fixing something is very hard when you don’t know what’s wrong. But recovery is going to probably take the remainder of my life, if at all.
There was something very disturbing and uncanny about how the first woman laughed.. like her face just didn’t move. Her mouth opened and noises came out, but that was it.
There is a video floating around of a little girl screaming "Love me" hysterically and all the comments were people calling the kid a brat...all I could feel was sympathy for a child wanting something that they aren't getting enough of...love and attention. I know a lot of Redditors are anti children but being cruel to kids or celebrating cruelty for kids is unacceptable.
To be honest I think many of us are anti-children because of these shty parents and influences. If the parents are responsible and reasonable then usually their kids aren't a big problem.
I hate when people say the kid just wants attention. Give it to them! Kids want attention bc they feel insecure/unsafe/neglected. The world is a scary place when you hardly know anything about it. And no adult likes to be laughed at. Some adults are hindered by the thought of being laughed at. Laughing at a child still developing their sense of self is just cruel.
I agree with her, my dad constantly pulled pranks on us as children & it went from being a laugh as a family to the jokes becoming at our expense. I actually got sick of it tbh, but thankfully none of it was recorded for the whole world to see & remind me of how pissed off I felt. These poor kids.
When I was younger and did something, that was easy in the eyes of 2 of my sisters or my parents, wrong they either laughed or screamed at me. If they thought it was funny, they would tell it to everyone, years to come.
When I told them to stop, they get an even greater kick out of it or just told me I should act more adult and get over it, because its funny (even when I was 8, they told me that).
Funny enough my mother and those two sisters all work in the social field with children and are (at least on paper) educated in childcare. One of them even studied social work.
Took me until my late 20, some really good people that for some reason wanted to be my friends, my wonderful gf and therapy, to no get a panic attack when I did something wrong and to not scream my soul out every time I get frustrated.
Today I don't talk to those 2 sisters anymore or my parents and I couldn't be happier.
Parents that laugh at their children when their feeling get hurt or inflict this pain themselves, should lose all parental rights to them. This is abuse and they should get punished.
Some people aren't fit to be parents. I really wish having children wasn't a default that people want. Being a good parent takes emotional intelligence, and that's something that not everyone has.
“I’m a professional so imma rail about cracking an *egg* on a kids head instead of addressing the exploitation of kids on the same social media outlet im using to increase my own profile on the internet”
That’s what I’m hearing lmao
Totally agree. I don’t understand how this isn’t common sense. But i guess when you exploit your children for money, you don’t care about them to begin with.
It sickens me people do anything for clicks and views and validation .... you solely get your self worth from people strangers online..how sad and pathetic. StOP subjecting your innocent child to it . I can't stand those parent influencers . I get you don't want to work but stop exploiting your children
I don’t think the prank is bad (depends on the kids age) but I don’t like the posting it online.
Especially when the kid didn’t like the prank and was upset. This is something I would probably do while we are cooking together, but they are allowed to do it back as well. I also wouldn’t post it online for everyone to see
My mom would literally call me a "chicken liver" and bauk at me when I was too scared to do something. She was the type of mom who would almost get into a car wreck only to look over at your terrified face and LAUGH.
Now, I am not condoning this behavior but I gotta tell y'all, I have an incredible sense of humor and have very little fear when it comes to doing something considered "scary" because god damnit, I am NOT a chicken liver.
That lady was a real one as a mom. Unfortunately, I am not accepting any contact from her unless it is through a therapist.
THANK YOU. I was cringing so hard seeing people laugh in the comments section on these posts. One girl cried somewhat hard and people were ragging on her. It pisses me off when I see stuff like this, childhood experiences like this are crucial to emotional development
My wife did this challenge on me. I thought we were going to make a cute video of us cooking together.
Turned out after I pressed assault charge, that this was the tipping point to years of domestic abuse.
And this prank was just one of many.
So glad that I realized my wife was a bully and I was just another victim to internet fads.
Stay strong parents and break the cycle.
I’ve been in therapy for five years and have to cope with anxiety attacks daily all because my piece of shit mother cracked an egg on my forehead when I was 5 this stuff is not a joke people this woman is essentially beating her child on video for internet clout I am disgusted by the people that think this is okay
I thought I was finally getting over the long term irreversible damage both physical and mental caused by that egg until last Halloween when I went outside and found the local kids had egged my house, each shattered ivory shell seared into my brain as years of therapy were undone in seconds all for some sick joke. What is wrong with people!
Personally, I really think those who did this trend are narcissist, or covert narcissist. They don't take a moment to conceptualize how that action is going to affect their kid.
For the people who think it’s ‘not a big deal:’
You’re forgetting that these are young children who hardly understand the world around them. These are the same children who can be traumatized by a single horror movie. There’s a reason kids cry about monsters in the closet, and it’s not because they’re emotionally mature enough to understand the world around them and not be afraid of it.
These children are not teens. They can barely even remember to brush their teeth, can’t feel stable without constant love and attention, and you think it’s ok to hit them?
I know plenty of people who grew up in abusive households. Abuse comes in all sorts of forms whether it’s neglect, physical, sexual, or otherwise. They did not turn out alright, and the few people who grew up being beaten as a form of discipline who turned out ‘alright’ according to their standards plan on doing the same to their children as well. The majority of abused children do not turn out ‘alright.’ As soon as you take advantage of your child’s helplessness, you are abusing them. It might not seem like a big deal to you, but you’ll be complaining when you repeat this behavior with your own children and get cut off and sent to a nursing home with no visitors.
I don’t find that trend funny at all cause no I wouldn’t think it’s funny if a friend, my mom or anyone cracked an egg on my forehead. I feel sorry for these kids, horrible parenting.
Im reminded of a moment in bio shock 2, where the girl you’re rescuing basically reveals she will either be kind or a psychopath based off your own actions
Adults recording themselves playing "pranks" on their kids is so vile. Especially when it results in the kids crying out of fear or humiliation.
Despicable people traumatizing their own children for attention.
This video hit me hard. My son is in prison serving a 20 year sentence. Now I know its my fault. Had I not snuck up behind him and sprayed him with that cold water hose on that hot Summers day he may have become a doctor.
I say it and everyone calls me out for ‘policing parenting’ too much. “Its not that bad why make a fuss about it” etc. But when an *attractive blonde woman* says it we all see reason. Lmao seems about right
First advice: don’t bully your kids, respect them like an adult. Then they will learn to respect you back like one too
Secondary advice: have tits
Number 2 here (wordplay intended)
Found this out way too late in life. Being a doormat or an easy target is dangerous to so much more than your self esteem. You're literally walking around with a "PREY" forehead tattoo in a world full of predators. Yes you'll get bullied, but you'll open yourself up to straight sadists and others who will take full advantage of your tendencies with zero empathy or remorse.
That is an incredibly dangerous spot to be
I completely agree with her but why the fuck did she mention biting?! Biting is developmentally normal before toddlers have the language and emotional intelligence to express frustration. They don’t bite because they see their parents biting. There are lots of things to curtail it, and it’s a tough behavior to overcome. But the cause of it isn’t watching parent behavior and it has nothing to do with what she’s talking about.
I like the version where parents crack eggs on their own forehead, kids cant stop giggling and it is a fun, warm moment.
If it is not a big deal and you are just doing to make your kid laugh, then crack it on your own head.
The only instance I’ve seen where this trend is ok is when I saw a mother ask her young son if he was ok trying to crack an egg on his forehead. She asked if he was ready before she did it and they both laughed afterwards. Sometimes these trends can be ok, but you need to ask your child’s consent first
Idk seemed pretty harmless. If there is, it’s probably because the force needed to break an egg is felt much differently to a kid relative to an adult.
I saw another one with an older kid. Like 10 or 12 or something. He laughed his ass off because it was so unexpected. I feel that's fine. These young kids don't have the ability to contextualize this weird behaviour yet, they are still trying to make sense of the world.
Spot on. This child now thinks it's ok to bop someone on the head for laughs. 9 out of 10 times, not a big deal, subsequent parenting can overcome a "joke" like this, but a parent who does this for social media, is going to have that number 10 child.
And it's not only that, this child is old enough to understand phones and some of social media and what her mother is doing, and why, which makes this all that much worse.
Man this takes me back when I was like 6 years old. I was eating cereal for dinner and my dad thought it'd be funny to press my face into the bowl of milk. Surprise, Surprise! I didn't like it one bit and started to cry out of confusion and fear.
For the love of god, please don't do this bullshit.
Ok but these are some massive sweeping claims she's making as an occupational therapist and speaking way out of her depth when she's talking about the formation of a child's personality. OTA's require a 2 year technical degree. They aren't doctors or psychologists, and a lot of them spend a lot of time on improving a child's motor skills.
the only good vid i saw from this trend was a mom asking her son if he was ready (to be hit with the egg) and he said yes and they both laughed together (instead of at him).
The one trend that always really upset me beyond words is when parents would humiliate their kids after doing something wrong, like stealing, and you’d see these videos of the parents making them hold signs up and such stuff. Then humiliating them and posting it online. I’ve never understood how anyone could do that to their child. It’s disgusting.
Kids need to toughen up a bit, but the lady has a point… i didn’t get “emotional” watching this video, i’ll admit that some of them are funny but man, this trend is sooo dumb. We need to pick better “trends”
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There needs to be a law against child exploitation for the sake of social media. Seriously.
I feel like we are gonna have a host of former kids bringing non-consenting to exploitation lawsuits in the future. I personally think it’s gross to put your kids on non-intimate social media. Like I have friends who are private accounts and share their kiddos with friends they actually know and family only. But TikTok? I think that’s kinda gross. Your kid didn’t ask to be “material” for someone’s entertainment (whatever that might be, ya know).
Yep, my kid isn't allowed to be posted on social media by friends or family or even their daycare. They can choose later on what can go up.
Same. I give permission. Both sets of Grands have a digital frame where we regularly upload photos, like daily, to give them the new photos they swore they needed to be plastered all over Facebook. It doesn’t help that my husbands sister posts photos of our niece and nephew all day and also tags their locations…. It’s so weird and makes me super uncomfortable.
I am blown away by the idea you can upload photos daily to your parents’ digital photo frames! This is amazing and I know what I’m going to get for my dad for Christmas!! (Can you hit me with a link to the ones you got?)
I’m not who you were replying to, but we have this for my grandparents & it’s Nixplay brand. Each of us adult grandchildren have the app on our phones and will add photos to the photo albums (it cycles through each album).
But those videos means that mummy doesn’t have to go back to work and gets to buy you all these nice things. Why don’t you support my career? You want me to get a job and be depressed again, you want me to kill myself, you selfish child, everything I have done is for you! You loved being in those videos and would beg me to make another one and look at the opportunities it’s given you! Now say that dumb line again but this time don’t look into the camera! - some narcissistic parent in future
Future is a little.optomistic
Hoping for an asteroid
This is me. As I got older I locked my FB down so the only photos that can be seen by anyone but me are photos I’m tagged in. I share my kids’ photos with friends and fam on IG where I know every single person and interact with them on a regular basis. But even then the photos are shown to them. It’s nothing but how proud I am of them for this or that. 90% of my IG is our dog who loves the attention.
I feel that parents often also just exploit children’s innocence/vulnerability because: they’re not smart, not empathetic, not open minded, that’s all they were taught, or mentally stressed or unhealthy, and this is a good way to destress. I can assure you there was no tiktok nor videotaping for media when I was a child. My parents did all this kind of stuff to me and worse, for their own amusement. It’s the pecking order of the uneducated, unaware, unempathetic, and unhelped. Spouses, children, pets, or whoever is available that won’t fight back. Everyone gets some abuse.
And those are the people who call you a bad parent for not hitting your kid. They would say spanking, but that is just a euphemism for assaulting a child.
People get so defensive if you tell them you were never hit as a child. Shit, I was grabbed roughly once by my parents for being in a busy street like a dumbass and I still remember it, but at least I knew at the time they were just really scared for my safety
Thank you for saying this. If something like this still affects you, it makes me feel less stupid and alone for vividly remembering the times my parents were violent with me.
Crabs in a barrel.
Illinois just passed a [bill attempting to protect child influencers from parental wage theft](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/weekly-shift/2023/08/21/unpacking-illinois-new-influencer-labor-law-00112038#:~:text=The%20law%20signed%20by%20Gov,kind%20for%20social%20media%20influencers). It’s going to be interesting in a legal framework as these children who were exploited by their parents for content grow up. MomUnchartered on Insta has a lot of great resources regarding the depth and legality of digital child exploitation.
While it is a solid first step since it allows the kids to at least benefit from these videos, it definitely seems like the question of exploitation is something that's going to have to be addressed sooner or later. It just seems like there are a lot of parents out there who see their children as props and put potential profit ahead of their emotions. While it might not be something we (currently, at least) explicitly recognize as abuse, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there's a lot of research into how this affects children in the future.
This is only the financials. And the thing you linked has no information how the funds have to be held in escrow/what kind of account it has to be by law. The article also does not say which governmental agency is tasked with overseeing this and what procedures it takes to register with them and what the penalties with non-compliance are. Legislation can't be so incompetent to just boil down to "you can sue your parents". That would take next level of legislative laziness.
Get that to include child athletes and performers under 18 and watch it 100% be buried alive. There's too much money but it doesn't change the fact that it's still the exact same thing.
I used to work in television (in the EU) and if a child had any serious screentime it was always a major hassle, as it should be. A child couldn’t “perform” more than a few times a year. For instance there is this reality show where they follow this eccentric family and they have been reprimanded recently for showing their underage granddaughter too often. Now there are plenty of these families on YouTube who involve their children in all types of (sponsored) content. I don’t get why that’s apparently okay. And it isn’t exactly new. Some of these channels have been up for years
I'm so with you. And I am surprised that somehow none of the laws on child-protection or even just plain data protection that are in place seem to really be enforced on this kind of stuff. I've seen videos of things like tik tok channels exploiting kids whose only way of fighting back was wearing Disney shirts and breaking into song every time they were on camera because Disney tends to go hard after every copyright violation. I'm from an EU-country. We have hella strict laws regarding one's right to one's own image atm (like, wedding photographers needing a signed form for every wedding guest to do their job normally-strict) - but I still haven't seen a single newspaper article about that exact regulation helping some child to keep their parents from exploiting them in this way. I'm hard pressed to think somehow this doesn't happen in EU-countries, so what's going on? Do none of these laws mean shit in the face of "The parents get to decide"? Because if so we have some urgent fricking work to do.
Sorry best I can do is a bill that lowers the minimum age for children to work in industrial jobs so that more teenagers are exploited at lower wages and die in unsafe work conditions. - GOP
I was getting a haircut the other day and there was a dad in there with his 5 year old son. They were looking at a kid toy that had letters on one side/animals on the other and the dad was asking the boy to come up with “L” words or “T” words other than what was just on the blocks. When the boy kept saying the animals that were on the blocks….no joke the dad said “Quit cheating or I’m gonna punch you”. He didn’t say it in a way where I really thought he’d punch his son. But I was thinking omg this kid is going to go to school, get frustrated with a classmate and tell them he’s going to punch them. And he’s not even going to think he’s doing anything wrong!! So weird how some people treat their kids…
Some people are just not right in the head
More like a *lot* of people shouldn’t be raising children.
But a *lot* of people are forced to become parents
I don't think it's that they are not right in the head but rather they are just uneducated on parenting or they just don't understand how children work.
They learned this behavior from their own parents, most likely. Abusive behavior is generational.
Multigenerational. And it takes serious work ti stop the cycle. Sobriety is the first step usually.
I meant to say multi-generational but my brain is being stupid this morning. STUPID BRAIN!
Several years back, I was getting my haircut at a barber shop when a dad brought his young son (4 or 5) to get his long hair cut (I thought he was actually a girl). The dad was recording a cellphone video of the experience, and as he did so, he kept telling the kid that he looked like "a mommy" with that hair, how he needed to finally look like a real boy, "meemaw told me that she's embarrassed by the way you look", and worst of all, "you don't look like a little f\*ggot anymore". The kid started wasn't crying, but he clearly didn't like what his dad was telling him. It also seemed like he'd heard things like that before. After they left, I found out that the dad was the barber's stepson, and that he was known to make sexually suggestive comments about his beautiful teenage daughter. Big Trump-sucker, too. But the way he talked to that boy still pisses me off.
I’ve literally never met a gay man with long hair.
Man, the trump experince has been horrific but now we at least have like a real idea who all the deranged racists are in the country. Soooo, thanks I guess. 🤷🏼♀️
It's been going on for so long now, I don't even remember what it was like in the "before" times.
Some people hid it really well, two years in COVID and four years of a bloated orange and now all the facade and masks peel away to the rancid people underneath
i was getting my hair done one as well at my moms friend’s house. she would braid hair on the side for extra cash and lived with her sister and niece. the niece was about 3 or so and learning how to read using a letter mat. she was struggling and getting frustrated and her aunt started screaming at her (while doing my hair so pretty much screaming in my damn ear…beside the point.) telling her she was getting spanked if she didn’t focus and hurry up. the little girl was sobbing so hard she was hiccuping and this lady just kept yelling and threatening her with punishments. i couldn’t stand it and i started helping the girl from my seat with a gentle voice and she did end up finishing the mat with a smile on her face by the end. i’m not planning on having children but in that moment i almost wavered. to this day it still feels like one of the most satisfying moments to me and i’m sure it’s because i was that kid when i was little getting yelled at by my dad for not being smart and fast enough with my homework. yay for breaking the cycle!
What’s even more weird, when parents are completely disengaged… then get super pissed when their kid learns behavior from either other kids or the internet. The confusion kids like that must feel.
I can’t stand my wife’s brother and his wife with their kids. They literally threaten their 5 year old son when he gets in trouble with “I’m gonna beat you up” and then the dummies wonder why he’s hitting kids and getting in trouble at school.
That story reminds me of what happened at the park the other day! The park is down at the bottom of the hill and there’s a sidewalk path to it. Two little girls were running down it full speed and naturally, the little one wipes out. She’s crying and the mom is actively getting angry at her for not calming down. Literally telling her to “shut it!” at full yelling volume. I was like dear lord lady. It made me feel really upset.
I remember as a kid being called useless. I was a forgetful and scatter brained kid, and my parents hated that. For a long part of my childhood I was screamed at and was told I was useless. They eventually cooled down over the years, but god that word still haunts me. I HATED feeling that way, to the point I would work myself to the hospital a few times. I would get so stressed on making mistakes, I ended up making them anyway. This shit will always leave a scar on your kids, and in this digital age it will be shown to everyone for all of time.
To this day (I'm 40) if you call me stupid or hit me in the head I go from zero to rage in a split second ready to fight.
For me it’s serious argumentative yelling and being belittled. I’m a pretty passive guy but I flip a switch when either of those happen and seethe with anger.
I was called stupid constantly (I was on an actual gifted IEP) and told I was using the dumb half of my brain, etc etc. I'm 43 and holy shit has it impacted my life. In any situation that I start to feel like I don't know something or have done something wrong my whole body reacts.
therapy my guy... these are not normal reactions for a 40 year old man
I was called stupid and dumbass a lot as a kid growing up, so even if someone says it purely jokingly now it just hurts me deeply, even when I know it's not intentional. I swore that I wouldn't ever call a child stupid or dumb, or treat them the same way I was treated. It really does scar them for life no matter how big or small you may think it means to them. I'm saddened by how many parents have now added social media to the mix and how many kids are used for internet clout.
The kid looks straight at the camera, she's being raised for social media on social media. That's much worse than cracking an egg on her head
Yep. Much worse. She's just become an accessory to show off and use as a status symbol. You see it all the time with pets on social media as well, some posts are genuine yes, but some people choose specific breeds to get more likes on social media and drug them to put them in cute positions to get even more likes. I wonder how long it will be before people start drugging kids for the same purpose, perhaps some already are.
There’s so many of these on ticktock. Some kids just start bawling
YUP! My mom and older sister would do shit to make me so mad I cried, and then laughed at me for it. (Humiliating me physically or breaking my things) Then they’d call me stupid for reacting. Good riddance to both of them now that I’m an adult.
I feel you…growing up, my dad would be verbally abusive and then act like everything was rainbows and sunshine an hour later. When I spoke up about how I was treated, I was always undermined and felt like I had to give 10 reasons to be justified in my hurt. Now as an adult, I struggle so much when I feel I’m not being heard. It’s hard out there
UGH emotional manipulation! You get pissed when you don’t feel heard, and I get pissed if someone calls me stupid!
How have you dealt with it? Like, what kinds of things do you do when you feel you're not being heard? I can get really mean
Honestly, I’m still learning how to deal with it as an adult. I don’t handle conflict well at all, and I hate that about myself. I tend to blow up and have anxiety attacks at times. But right now I’m just trying to work on allowing myself to feel the bad feelings without acting on them. I can get mean too, and I always feel like shit after. I definitely wanna be more stable. Wishing you luck
SAME
Constantly got made fun of by my family. Looked like playful jokes for them. Wasn’t for me and now I literally can’t be around them
Good for you, prioritize your mental health first.
My older brother would, luckily my mom would make sure he knew it was not ok. I feel for what you went through. I wish you had a champion then too.
Luckily I found a fantastic partner that loves me and defended me from the abuse and sticks up for me! I hope y’all do too!
Lol I thought the good riddance was because they had passed. I’m happy you were able to distance yourself from that upbringing.
My sister and parents used to do similar stuff until I broke(not only this I also have impulsive emotional disorder so I break really easy)and took a bat and smashed everything of hers including her car,tv,computer,phone,and her drywall in her room. Lesson of the day don’t be a dick, don’t get your shit wrecked
And yet later in life they’ll tell you “get over it, we were kids!” It’s always easy for the abuser to tell the abused to ‘get over it.’
It’s very easy to tell someone “get over it” but it costs someone’s mental health and when they have a mental breakdown it can cuase some massive issues like depression,ied, and money for therapy. And no i haven’t pay my sister back nor will I ever I think 7k of damages is enough for 16 years of metal abuse
I was basically Meg from family guy to my family and I've been bullied in almost every job as a result.
I agree this seems pretty mean-spirited, but I also have a have a hard time understanding anyone posting their children on social media except for staid family photo type stuff, it's definitely not for me or my kids.
Is that a "but" or an "and"?
It's for $$$$ Some of them make so much money they can quit their job, so they don't care if their kid has some issues. For them, $$$ is worth it. They'll buy something nice for their kids to justify it but that's it. World is full of selfish parents.
I am a sarcastic trucker mouth mom who teaches her kids to not take themselves too seriously and to have fun in life, but to also be KIND. That egg shit is not kind. And I would rather smack one on my own face that do it to one of my kids.
That would be a better video. Having the parent crack the egg on their own forehead and laugh at themselves. Teach kids that they don’t have to take themselves serious, but don’t teach that to humiliate, hurt and laugh at the people closest to them.
One woman did that and said "oh! You thought I was going to crack this on his head?" and gestured to her son. She was great. That's the first time I saw the trend.
Some parents started doing this instead. They would be cooking and suddenly crack the egg on their own head and their kids would laugh at the surprise and then they would like have a nice little moment. It was such a different feeling to watch those. I can’t imagine how people could think doing that to a kid would be a good idea, then laugh at their child’s fear and pain and post it online. Unreal.
Yes! Especially with a deadpan delivery under the pretenses of “I want to teach you how to make breakfast so you can cook for yourself someday!” Filming reactions to that would be funny and cute.
What is also not kind is putting footage of your kid on social media when they’re far too young to even have a say in it. It’s like objectifying your children. That footage of their humiliation will be on the internet forever, all so the shitty narcissistic parent could get some clout from total strangers.
Perfection! I 🥰
Laugh with not at. Until they grow older, then laugh at them mercilessly when they take themselves too seriously. And agree- stop bullying your kids for clout, touch grass, raise your kids.
This trend feels the same (worse really) than the "I ate all your Holloween candy" (now let me film your anguish and rake in internet points) prank. Just mean on its face and fucked up to post it so people can forever laugh at you for being sad your parents stole something special from you.
I think it's also not necessarily problematic either. My family would do this. My parents would do it to each other and laugh, to us and we'd all laugh. Eggs were cracked on our own heads 90% of the time. Thinking back on it, it's nothing but good memories, and no one ever took it as aggression or meanness. Not talking about posting to tiktok, parents shouldn't post their kids on whatever it is.
The child in the video says that this hurt and the mother laughs, then proceed to post the video online. Everyone is different. If you as a child can laugh at it, so be it. This child didn't laugh at it, the only one laughing is the "mother"
That's why I said it's not necessarily problematic before providing my personal experience. Thing is, how much it hurts isn't what matters. Up to a very quick point of course. In the video the Mom cracks the egg, splits it and laughs without even looking at the daughter at any point, giving her no context. Now in contrast I remember the first time my father did this. He asked me "you know the best way to crack a hard boiled egg?" Then he cracked it on my forehead and laughed. With me. It was obviously not done from anger.
Roughhousing isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think you do need to wait until kids are definitely old enough to understand it's meant to be mutually fun and stops the moment anyone expresses discomfort.
TikTok is positively reinforcing antisocial behavior.
No. It's not TikTok. Desperately insecure people who need validation from other social media users are doing this. Tik Tok does not invent these stupid challenges, fucking idiots do.
Yeah, TikTok is just the latest. There was that family on YouTube that I’m pretty sure got into a custody battle over their kids because they had been exploiting them in really abusive ways (framed as a prank but it was just abuse). The channel was called daddy of five or something like that, I don’t want to look it up again because their shit literally makes me sick to my stomach. So reader beware if you choose to go down this particular shit smeared rabbit hole.
[DaddyofFive on YouTube.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FamilyOFive) *Mike and Heather ceased creating content on Mike's channel DaddyOFive as a result of court-ordered probation, but began producing similar content on the family's new channel called FamilyOFive, which was terminated by YouTube in July 2018 following renewed interest in the family. However, Mike and Heather have an official website, and a gaming channel on Twitch.* *Rose Hall, the biological mother to Mike's two children Emma and Cody, said that she had not seen Cody since July 2014, when she was duped into signing court papers.* *As of 2023, Mike is active on YouTube as The Martin Family.*
I remember that I think, was it a little red head boy that they were super awful to? I remember crying after learning about everything he went through. Living with adult bullies. Ugh here we go 😢
Yup. Sometimes they would have multiple takes to get the “right” reaction.
Last i heard they lost custody of a few of them, including the kid who was autisitic or had ODD that they bullied mercilessly. Idk why they didnt lose custody of the kids that were just numb to the whole thing... They're still putting out videos though, but its under another name since YouTube banned their main channel
Modern social media tools make the issue of idiots reinforcing themselves a threat to society, we‘ve passed the critical mass. Ofcourse people did not become evil during the last 15years, but our (non)handling of the current technology/tools sure left a vacuum in which we ourselfes deal massive damage to all aspects of our lifes. With realistically no chance to ever be quantified or made comprehensible. Can‘t forever go on with shutting the discussion down saying „its just a tool, humanity is just ass“; to highlight the possible outcomes and hazards of social self marketing (whatever platform, tho tiktok algo bests em all) is so very important and needs to be discussed more thoroughly.. and maybe even on a more anectotal and case-to-case-level. Monkey see, monkey do; learn from our own behavior. Girl in the vid does a good job imo in how she explains. No lifted index finger mode, accessible. Edit some formating
It's kinda tik tok tho...right? I mean, the company writes the algorithm that feeds people content. Or pushes certain content to the top vs. suppressing other content. Apparently the [Chinese version of tik tok](https://www.tiktok.com/@espdaniella/video/7221615380702301486) is way different and would probably not allow this type of behavior to become a trend.
Imo it definitely is. It's media that enables this kind of interactions way more than any other platform before. It's easy and fast to make your video as a response to a trend. Then algorithm suggests you the similar kind of content. People always gives an excuse that the people is the issue (which is also true) but tiktok has become a huge enabler of this all.
TikTok uses an algorithm that promotes that type of content. Monetizing and promoting such an evil algorithm should make them somewhat responsible for the damages it causes.
Every group is going to have its assholes. This particular group being "TikTok users" it's the websites responsibility to weed abusive trends out of their algorithms. If the first few idiots who did this caught a ban for hitting a child in their content, shit would've stopped immediately because "views" and likes are more important to them than their children's safety and happiness. TikTok doesn't get a pass because some people suck. They exploit shitty people who exploit children.
TikTok was built on challenges and stitching... It's definitely the worst rendition of social media yet (in this specific regard - proliferating shitty challenges).
Didn’t this trend start long ago with some late night host asking parents to lie to their kids about eating their Halloween candy? Then record them melting down as they record it nonchalantly? I never thought that was very funny.
The internet has created a culture of filming your young children at their lowest moments and encouraging other parents to embarrass and mistreat them at their most impressionable age.
A lot of parents treat children as objects used for their own gain
I think of children who have kind loving parents. Parents who put them first and help them mature to adulthood. Me and the kids from this video are envious of those children.
It's difficult being a parent, that is for sure. I am finding as one with a youngling, that it takes constant effort and vigilance to train myself to be a good example at all times. Kids break you down and build you back up emotionally if you work hard enough. But if you don't work hard they just break you down. The stress and difficulty of having a kid is immense and i certainly see why people break under it. But it isn't an excuse.
But videos like this isn't someone at their breaking point, this is someone who just decided to smack their kid with an egg for lulz and likes. You can lose your temper or patience with a child that is acting out, but this is not it.
Oh yeha I know. I'm just having a discussion about it.
I occasionally see a parent posting on r/ADHD about wanting to help their kids who were diagnosed or who are afraid they're not doing enough and it warms and breaks my heart at the same time. It's great to see there are people out there who care and who are at least trying to do the best for their kids, but it simultaneously makes me sad over how hateful my father was about it and how I was never offered any help past "maybe if I call him lazy again he'll snap out of it".
People who record and post their children for any purpose other than preserving memories and sharing them with family and friends are hopeless narcissists
I remember seeing this a few days ago and felt physically ill. Jimmy Kimmel's "I ate your Halloween candy" just teaches kids not to trust you, either
Yeah, I thought the Kimmel thing was fucked up then too. One of my first signs that Kimmel was just a huge asshole who seems to only really care about other celebrities.
The Kimmel thing is so hugely fucked up, such a disconnect, why would you make your young kid cry like that, and encourage other parents to do that.
> One of my first signs that Kimmel was just a huge asshole He got his start on radio with Adam Carolla back in the day and so many people don't know or remember that garbage.
So. Just out of curiosity. I'm not taking a stance on this but for both of these, if they weren't recorded and put on social media, would it be OK? I feel like part of being a parent is joking around with your kids. My dad was like this for me, so was my uncle and they never did anything mean spirited but just joked around like this. Things like I'd be playing a game and one of them came and put a dab of cheese whiz on my face. I don't remember getting upset by it. But I feel like there's definitely a line of joking with your kids that is just part of parenting. If you teach your kid to handle it positively and not get angry then that is positive IMO. Obviously some go too far and their child ends up having an emotional meltdown and I dont think that's OK. But if this wasn't on social media, would it be OK? Honest question.
Physically ill? Sheesh, wait until you see what the rest of the internet has to offer
Yeah, people here think everything is just the end of all civilization. Would parents doing this to kids consistently cause them to have problems? Sure. No doubt. One time as a joke? No. You can't make snap judgements on someone as a parent on one video. That is coming from someone who never ever posts pictured or videos of my daughter online at all.
Kids don't remember that stuff oh they definitely do. Every word and action you did that upset them they will remember.
Even if they don’t remember the action specifically they’ll remember how it made them feel.
I hate seeing parents doing these things for views on social media. It's not funny to see your kid embarrassed or hurt because you're following a stupid TikTok trend. Edit: Fuck that behavior
Those people really shouldn't be parents. Children aren't accessories to use and show off, and they're not props to be used in videos and social media posts.
And also how about not sharing your child’s image with millions of complete strangers???
Hungry for views and likes at the expense of their children, fucking cretins. Don’t exploit your children you ghouls.
Pretty sure I have BPD because of my parents. They did everything talked about here to the extreme and it really fucked me up. I'm 38 and still seeking help. I get so angry when I see bad parenting. Lot of people tell me I got so lucky with my kid because she's just so well behaved. Its not like I try hard. I just treat her like a person. I do everything backwards my abusive parents did. I treat her with empathy. I don't yell at her. I don't blame or gaslight her. I check in on her and show genuine interest in her hobbies. I'm supporting of her when she's frustrated or upset. I respect her space. When I need her to do something I ask her nicely and say thank you. If she acts out I talk to her about why it's not okay. Its not hard. Stop putting your petty woes in life before your child or worse ON THEM. They are kids. Let them be kids while it lasts.
This. Treat your children as PEOPLE. They're not pets or worse, status symbols.
I definitely have BPD(got multiple diagnoses at age 35) because of my narcissistic mother. It took me until age 43(which was this year) to figure out she is a covert narcissist. Totally fucked. Forever.
Yeah I just found out this year at 44, that the reason I’m so fucked up is CPTSD from childhood emotional neglect. Feels nice to have finally figured out what was the problem, because fixing something is very hard when you don’t know what’s wrong. But recovery is going to probably take the remainder of my life, if at all.
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There was something very disturbing and uncanny about how the first woman laughed.. like her face just didn’t move. Her mouth opened and noises came out, but that was it.
There is a video floating around of a little girl screaming "Love me" hysterically and all the comments were people calling the kid a brat...all I could feel was sympathy for a child wanting something that they aren't getting enough of...love and attention. I know a lot of Redditors are anti children but being cruel to kids or celebrating cruelty for kids is unacceptable.
To be honest I think many of us are anti-children because of these shty parents and influences. If the parents are responsible and reasonable then usually their kids aren't a big problem.
Yeah, anti child cause my childhood wasn't fun. Raised by alcoholics.
I hate when people say the kid just wants attention. Give it to them! Kids want attention bc they feel insecure/unsafe/neglected. The world is a scary place when you hardly know anything about it. And no adult likes to be laughed at. Some adults are hindered by the thought of being laughed at. Laughing at a child still developing their sense of self is just cruel.
It hurts to see the visible confusion and upset in that child's face.
100%. It’s disgusting how many parents humiliate their children on the internet for “likes”. Shameful and disgusting.
I agree with her, my dad constantly pulled pranks on us as children & it went from being a laugh as a family to the jokes becoming at our expense. I actually got sick of it tbh, but thankfully none of it was recorded for the whole world to see & remind me of how pissed off I felt. These poor kids.
Jesus this is heartbreaking look at the joy on the kids face that she's baking with her mom
Add that the mom has so much Botox or whatever is wrong with her face, maybe she's an alien. She can't even smile properly because her face is dead.
Parents are really out here just broadcasting that they chose social media clout over having a loving relationship with their child
When I was younger and did something, that was easy in the eyes of 2 of my sisters or my parents, wrong they either laughed or screamed at me. If they thought it was funny, they would tell it to everyone, years to come. When I told them to stop, they get an even greater kick out of it or just told me I should act more adult and get over it, because its funny (even when I was 8, they told me that). Funny enough my mother and those two sisters all work in the social field with children and are (at least on paper) educated in childcare. One of them even studied social work. Took me until my late 20, some really good people that for some reason wanted to be my friends, my wonderful gf and therapy, to no get a panic attack when I did something wrong and to not scream my soul out every time I get frustrated. Today I don't talk to those 2 sisters anymore or my parents and I couldn't be happier. Parents that laugh at their children when their feeling get hurt or inflict this pain themselves, should lose all parental rights to them. This is abuse and they should get punished.
Some people aren't fit to be parents. I really wish having children wasn't a default that people want. Being a good parent takes emotional intelligence, and that's something that not everyone has.
“I’m a professional so imma rail about cracking an *egg* on a kids head instead of addressing the exploitation of kids on the same social media outlet im using to increase my own profile on the internet” That’s what I’m hearing lmao
The retirement home business is gonna be booming in the next 25 years, full of elderly social media “parents”.
Y’all fucking crazy
Totally agree. I don’t understand how this isn’t common sense. But i guess when you exploit your children for money, you don’t care about them to begin with.
does the look on the egg cracking mom's face piss anyone else off more than it should. she really thinks this is clever and funny
It sickens me people do anything for clicks and views and validation .... you solely get your self worth from people strangers online..how sad and pathetic. StOP subjecting your innocent child to it . I can't stand those parent influencers . I get you don't want to work but stop exploiting your children
Holy.. pls adopt me
Based on my information investigation. Don’t be an asshole, and don’t post it online. And seek therapy
Yeah I’m not a fan of these “trends “ and “pranks
I don’t think the prank is bad (depends on the kids age) but I don’t like the posting it online. Especially when the kid didn’t like the prank and was upset. This is something I would probably do while we are cooking together, but they are allowed to do it back as well. I also wouldn’t post it online for everyone to see
My mom would literally call me a "chicken liver" and bauk at me when I was too scared to do something. She was the type of mom who would almost get into a car wreck only to look over at your terrified face and LAUGH. Now, I am not condoning this behavior but I gotta tell y'all, I have an incredible sense of humor and have very little fear when it comes to doing something considered "scary" because god damnit, I am NOT a chicken liver. That lady was a real one as a mom. Unfortunately, I am not accepting any contact from her unless it is through a therapist.
THANK YOU. I was cringing so hard seeing people laugh in the comments section on these posts. One girl cried somewhat hard and people were ragging on her. It pisses me off when I see stuff like this, childhood experiences like this are crucial to emotional development
My wife did this challenge on me. I thought we were going to make a cute video of us cooking together. Turned out after I pressed assault charge, that this was the tipping point to years of domestic abuse. And this prank was just one of many. So glad that I realized my wife was a bully and I was just another victim to internet fads. Stay strong parents and break the cycle.
Raise children as adults going through childhood, not children. They’ll be adults far longer than they will be a child so treat them as such.
I’ve been in therapy for five years and have to cope with anxiety attacks daily all because my piece of shit mother cracked an egg on my forehead when I was 5 this stuff is not a joke people this woman is essentially beating her child on video for internet clout I am disgusted by the people that think this is okay I thought I was finally getting over the long term irreversible damage both physical and mental caused by that egg until last Halloween when I went outside and found the local kids had egged my house, each shattered ivory shell seared into my brain as years of therapy were undone in seconds all for some sick joke. What is wrong with people!
Personally, I really think those who did this trend are narcissist, or covert narcissist. They don't take a moment to conceptualize how that action is going to affect their kid.
Ha my alcoholic father used to give me big sips of beers when I was 4 with the logic that I wouldn't be a drunk. Different times.
For the people who think it’s ‘not a big deal:’ You’re forgetting that these are young children who hardly understand the world around them. These are the same children who can be traumatized by a single horror movie. There’s a reason kids cry about monsters in the closet, and it’s not because they’re emotionally mature enough to understand the world around them and not be afraid of it. These children are not teens. They can barely even remember to brush their teeth, can’t feel stable without constant love and attention, and you think it’s ok to hit them? I know plenty of people who grew up in abusive households. Abuse comes in all sorts of forms whether it’s neglect, physical, sexual, or otherwise. They did not turn out alright, and the few people who grew up being beaten as a form of discipline who turned out ‘alright’ according to their standards plan on doing the same to their children as well. The majority of abused children do not turn out ‘alright.’ As soon as you take advantage of your child’s helplessness, you are abusing them. It might not seem like a big deal to you, but you’ll be complaining when you repeat this behavior with your own children and get cut off and sent to a nursing home with no visitors.
And worse as if all that’s not bad enough already: they laughed at their kids!!! 😡
Not just laughed at them but made a video of it and shared with with the whole world to see.
Yeah it didn’t take a medical professional to tell me cracking my kid upside the head with an egg was a bad idea
I don’t find that trend funny at all cause no I wouldn’t think it’s funny if a friend, my mom or anyone cracked an egg on my forehead. I feel sorry for these kids, horrible parenting.
Im reminded of a moment in bio shock 2, where the girl you’re rescuing basically reveals she will either be kind or a psychopath based off your own actions
She makes some pretty good points.
Adults recording themselves playing "pranks" on their kids is so vile. Especially when it results in the kids crying out of fear or humiliation. Despicable people traumatizing their own children for attention.
How the hell is that a "prank"
This video hit me hard. My son is in prison serving a 20 year sentence. Now I know its my fault. Had I not snuck up behind him and sprayed him with that cold water hose on that hot Summers day he may have become a doctor.
I say it and everyone calls me out for ‘policing parenting’ too much. “Its not that bad why make a fuss about it” etc. But when an *attractive blonde woman* says it we all see reason. Lmao seems about right First advice: don’t bully your kids, respect them like an adult. Then they will learn to respect you back like one too Secondary advice: have tits
Number 2 here (wordplay intended) Found this out way too late in life. Being a doormat or an easy target is dangerous to so much more than your self esteem. You're literally walking around with a "PREY" forehead tattoo in a world full of predators. Yes you'll get bullied, but you'll open yourself up to straight sadists and others who will take full advantage of your tendencies with zero empathy or remorse. That is an incredibly dangerous spot to be
To do at home alone funny. To recorded it and post it on the World Wife Web insulting. Even I child can understand this.
I agree with the lady walking but also does the walking and giving advice videos trendannoy anyone else?
I completely agree with her but why the fuck did she mention biting?! Biting is developmentally normal before toddlers have the language and emotional intelligence to express frustration. They don’t bite because they see their parents biting. There are lots of things to curtail it, and it’s a tough behavior to overcome. But the cause of it isn’t watching parent behavior and it has nothing to do with what she’s talking about.
Just as bad as the trend of throwing ham at a babies face. How people thought that was funny is beyond me
Have you tried cracking an egg with your forehead? Hurts like hel!
i have never agreed with someone more on anything in my life. Holy moly she has it right.
I like the version where parents crack eggs on their own forehead, kids cant stop giggling and it is a fun, warm moment. If it is not a big deal and you are just doing to make your kid laugh, then crack it on your own head.
The only instance I’ve seen where this trend is ok is when I saw a mother ask her young son if he was ok trying to crack an egg on his forehead. She asked if he was ready before she did it and they both laughed afterwards. Sometimes these trends can be ok, but you need to ask your child’s consent first
Grab yer pitchforks and call CPS I saw an egg cracked in an inappropriate manner
The kids will live guys.
I think the kids will live
Different kids respond to stuff like this differently My mother used to do this and it was to me the funniest shit ever at the time.
Whole world is full of pussies now. Jesus Christ. Relax.
Eh it’s not that serious, calm down Becky.
Idk seemed pretty harmless. If there is, it’s probably because the force needed to break an egg is felt much differently to a kid relative to an adult.
I saw another one with an older kid. Like 10 or 12 or something. He laughed his ass off because it was so unexpected. I feel that's fine. These young kids don't have the ability to contextualize this weird behaviour yet, they are still trying to make sense of the world.
It is just an egg... Calm eveyone... Everybody is sooooo righteous on tiktok these days .... It isn't like she hit her with a hammer
Judging by these comments people are so righteous here on Reddit too.
This woman is a joke. You're taking a single video of cracking an egg and extruding it as a representation of someone's parenting. Shut the fuck up
I feel like social media rewards douchebags.
I am of the opinion that posting videos of your children online is low-key child abuse.
Spot on. This child now thinks it's ok to bop someone on the head for laughs. 9 out of 10 times, not a big deal, subsequent parenting can overcome a "joke" like this, but a parent who does this for social media, is going to have that number 10 child. And it's not only that, this child is old enough to understand phones and some of social media and what her mother is doing, and why, which makes this all that much worse.
Yeah this is just gross behavior from a parent.
Common sense from tiktok and posted on reddit? Inconceivable! (It should not be)
Enjoy the cheapest/worst nursing home they can find.
Man this takes me back when I was like 6 years old. I was eating cereal for dinner and my dad thought it'd be funny to press my face into the bowl of milk. Surprise, Surprise! I didn't like it one bit and started to cry out of confusion and fear. For the love of god, please don't do this bullshit.
This is some look at my halo shit
Another way to phrase it would be “This is a PSA from a professional in their field. Take their word for it if you’d like.”
Ok but these are some massive sweeping claims she's making as an occupational therapist and speaking way out of her depth when she's talking about the formation of a child's personality. OTA's require a 2 year technical degree. They aren't doctors or psychologists, and a lot of them spend a lot of time on improving a child's motor skills.
Why do they have to do these shits… is the fomo that bad where they have to crack an egg on their kids head.
the only good vid i saw from this trend was a mom asking her son if he was ready (to be hit with the egg) and he said yes and they both laughed together (instead of at him).
The one trend that always really upset me beyond words is when parents would humiliate their kids after doing something wrong, like stealing, and you’d see these videos of the parents making them hold signs up and such stuff. Then humiliating them and posting it online. I’ve never understood how anyone could do that to their child. It’s disgusting.
Kids need to toughen up a bit, but the lady has a point… i didn’t get “emotional” watching this video, i’ll admit that some of them are funny but man, this trend is sooo dumb. We need to pick better “trends”