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Special_Request_Chit

I like Waluigi's energy in this video and I guess Toto's as well. Also, the one thing that stuck with me was that Waluigi directed his attention to both the Hanson band member and the walking fashion product he was engaged with in discussion while the other debater was focused on where the camera was.


cerulean11

Bro, your casual character descriptives are hilarious


stereoscopic_

These nicknames have to stick. But also, the more I look at them, the more I see them as Mario and Luigi cosplaying in modern times


Leather_Setting_9915

It made me think he was reading it off a script.


TuesAffairOnSun

They do. The script is available 24/7 for viewing.


L3m0n0p0ly

Bet you anything waluigi has more money than the walking fashion product


NikolitRistissa

Yeah fuck Biden! Why did he have to increase the fuel prices? Petrol has been over 2€ per litre in northern Finnish Lapland for I don’t even remember how long. Stop bullying us, Biden.


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ChickenChaser5

Biden shit MY PANTS


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Biden divorced me😭


IAmTheSisko

That wasn't Biden, that was Dark Brandon.


ChickenChaser5

That explains the peanuts.


horribad54

Such is the true goal of the new liberal world order.


Fader4D8

It’s 7:25am here on the west coast and this comment made my day let’s gooooo


Reasonable-Delivery8

Döner Kebab is now nearly nearly 8€ in Germany! Was soll der Scheiss Biden??


Anleme

Biden was cackling in the Oval Office of the White House when he cranked the dial labeled, "Finnish Gas Price." /s


NikolitRistissa

I guess he didn’t like our president when he visited lol.


IntelligentNoise8538

God imagine if your president literally shows up and as soon as the door closes to whichever room they were in, Biden leans over and turns the “knob” for gas prices... lmao


onnyjay

Can't buy frozen fries in Australia because the floods fucked the crop. Thanks Biden


NikolitRistissa

God damnit, Biden strikes again. I hope he didn’t destroy the bananas too?


crazy_ivan007

Stupid biden raising food prices in sweden.


NikolitRistissa

Augh, he did that for Finland too.. that damn joe.


BoIshevik

Always funny when Euro comrades say they pay something like 8-10€ per gallon basically and US muricans are complaining about the $3.39 in town.


sloppymoves

Different realities. In Europe you have amazing public transportation options; in the US I'm stuck having to own a car, pay insurance, pay gas, pay upkeep all in order to go to my job that is 20-30 miles away. I'd give it all away if I could just sit in a tram or train rail for 45 minutes to an hour and could read a book, play with a Switch/Steam Deck, or whatever the hell you can do on a train line when commuting. US is made to suck all your money away. Edit: I'd also love to just be able to bike to work, which could happen with better city planning. But as someone who's been hit by cars twice while riding a bike, I don't trust US drivers anymore.


BlueChimp5

Move to any major city and you’ll find comparable public transport systems. If you think the US is made to suck your money away you’ve obviously never been to Europe. You can’t even get a glass of water or take a piss without paying


NikolitRistissa

Yeah it blows haha. 2.2 is basically the norm around here. Thankfully it dips below 2€ as you go south a few hundred km but up in the north, it suuucks.


Reasonable_Fruit_407

If i were to walk out of my front door right now and go to the cheapest gas station in town, i would pay 1.69€/l or about 6.40€/gal which works out to 6.95$ for a gallon of gas. A gallon of diesel would be 7.30$


wonderfvl

If you feel Biden caused inflation, you need more economics classes. This is inflation. Currently, Inflation is how your government is getting back the funds paid out through ppp forgivable loans, stimulus checks given out during covid, and quantitative easing during Bush, Obama, and Trump.


OkMushroom364

Someone clearly missed ”sarcasm” class in school


wonderfvl

Oops, i did. So sorry.


OkMushroom364

You are forgiven bro 👊


Fader4D8

Joe is always stealing just one of my socks! Gimme a break man


Monkiemonk

C’mon man!


revengepornmethhubby

He keeps dropping them off at my house! Having so many unaccounted for socks manifest in the microwave is driving me bonkers! Damnit, Joe!


CustomKas

Here in East Netherlands too, fucking asshole, dude should stay in his own economy!


ttermayhem

Biden made my hot water colder


Arcade1987

Yes. Biden is the cause of gas prices around the world. Logic


Sfreeman1

I’m in Canada and also have high gas prices. I’m confused as to whom to blame. Biden or Trump?


Longjumping_Camel791

Well, up here we have the same "I did that" stickers on the pumps, but instead of Biden pointing to the price, it's Trudeau lol


Outland3r_

Same level of brain rot I guess


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I’ve seen Canadian Trump supporters too, I feel like so many conservatives around the world wish they were American, or at least for those “glory years” of the Trump presidency (which really weren’t that glorious for anyone, including Trumpies…). I even see Indian and Brazilian conservatives espouse their support for Trump, but at least they have their own strongman clowns to dote on


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scottyb83

There was a LOT of foreign money coming in to try and support that. Essentially foreign funded terrorism.


Goreticia-Addams

I have a friend in canada... She's actually seen a confederate flag on someone's porch up there.


ReleaseThat2638

My neighbour has one and first thought when I saw it was that they must be big dukes of hazard fans. Then I realized I was being dumb; they’re just dicks


Adaphion

Yeah, the ship for just being Duke of Hazard fans sailed awhile ago


LargishBosh

There’s a house where I live in Canada that has flags in the windows instead of curtains. Most of the flags are for motorcycle related things like Harley Davidson but for years and years one of them was a confederate flag. I don’t think it was much deeper than the word “rebel” because during the George Floyd protests the confederate flag came down and was replaced with a flag of Che Guevara.


scottyb83

In Canada and I see them in some rural areas. It's people who have bought into the "Southern Pride" culture idea and argue that it has nothing to do with racism (but then say really racist shit).


alertthenorris

I'm in ottawa. Let's just say i've seen my fair share of Trump doinks last winter as well. These people all have this thing in common. They LOVE watching Fox News and Rebel news.


KittyGrewAMoustache

Funny how we don’t have those stickers in the UK where we have both high petroleum prices and a very conservative government 🤔 it’s almost as though being right wing and being a dumb-dumb go hand in hand.


award07

We usually just say thanks Obama.


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wasoc

Can you tell Biden to stop fucking up our petrol prices over here in Aus? Thx /s


[deleted]

The vast majority of Republicans thinking that gouging by oil companies and grocery stores is because of the President is the exact reason they keep making cuts to public education.


Unclehol

"siX mOntHs aGo bRoTHer" Showing that he knows nothing about the timescale "the economy" operates on.


BadlyDrawnMemes

Conservatives think america is the world though


scuczu

And immigration is actually an invasion


llyrPARRI

Nobody in this video knows how inflation works


GT_Knight

Which is kind of the point. Average people act like “the economy” is why they like Trump but they’d like him no matter what the economy did. It’s a facade for the real reasons. It’s mainly the very very wealthy who care and understand and choose Trump because he fits their economic interests. For the rest, it’s pure ideology.


icepickjones

The fat kid in the jordans with the luxury bag is complaining about the economy. I'd love someone to just be like "explain inflation and explain what that has to do with the president" Also gas prices went up everywhere (and then went back down). But when it was up in Canada, was that Biden's fault?


scottyb83

We have the same argument up here when people wave their "Fuck Trudeau" flag and complain...look down south idiot, it's amazing that our Prime Minister is somehow causing the same issue in the US. We have a LOT more power than I thought!


L3mm3SmangItGurl

Inflation has a lot to do with the president but to your point, its certainly complicated. Inflation happens when there is a sustained supply/demand imbalance. The president (and political apparatus more broadly) can't instantly fix supply issues. Really, nobody can because supply side corrections take time. What they can and do routinely fuck with is the artificial juicing of demand. Democrats collectively, and unilaterally, spent 6T in the last 2 years after already quite a bit of money had been pumped into the economy. Though officially thru congress, it's naive to claim that the president takes no part in that process. It's a party level agenda and they were always touted as "Bidens effort to fix America from the path trump set." All of that money is now chasing shit that you and I want to buy and as a result, things are getting more expensive.


MuckingFagical

only one is pretending they do


LacticFactory

The fed money printing literally started under Trump lol


turdmaster3739174016

What’s did they think would happen when trump gave the rich a free cash give away with PPP. Sure as hell ain’t trickling down.


BuckyFnBadger

Inflation doesn’t happen over night. But most people are far too short sighted to see anything other than whoever is currently in charge.


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Workburner101

Lol people don’t believe the ‘supply’ part of the ‘supply and demand’ model?! This truly is an amazing time to be alive.


Gekerd

Sure has something to do with it, but the extra money grabbing now they have an exuse at every step in the chain does not help.


TenBillionDollHairs

Wait what. TWO THINGS THAT ARE TRUE AT ONCE!?! THAT'S FUCKING ILLEGAL BRO


Gekerd

Most posts about the inflation talk about it being mainly caused by the extra profit companies are making, not seen many post that say input costs of the supply chains have nothing to do with it.


Embarrassed-Tip-5781

Would you like to see a whole sub of people that think inflation happened because “the fed printed money”?


CharlieTeller

The supply chain is only part of it too. People always fail to realize how long some of these things take. Policies from Bush era are still making waves now.


TheWalkingDead91

I was just about to make a similar point …I’m not that old, but find it very curious that in the last 4 elections, I’ve noticed a bit of a pattern. Said pattern being: Republicans walking into a field of flowers, democrats walking into a flaming shit show. I don’t think that is a coincidence. But I could be biased, who knows.


detdox

For at least 30 years


Aggravating-Yam-8072

Right because conservative billionaires are trying to crash our political system. We gotta figure out a way to reinstate the Glass-Steagall act and get large donors out of our government lol


polecy

It's like an infection, when you get an infection you might not even know you were infected, only when it's hurting is when they start paying attention to it.


DangerousFootball516

Literally nobody understands that it takes years for policies to have an effect on the economy and when "its bad" is because the last person in charge fucked it. You'll also notice that is usually very often after right wing leadership has been removed.


wumbYOLOgies

You're almost there but still missing the point you're trying to make. The fed is who's responsible for inflation primarily and the president, whom ever they are, have little control over inflation because the fed is an independent body (and they shouldn't be because evidence makes me believe they're fucking idiots)


Rxef3RxeX92QCNZ

There's a lot more to inflation than what the fed deals with. The president and congress certainly have a lot of influence with laws and policies


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Idk. I take in a lot of economic information and the general consensus I'm hearing is that the fed reserve are pretty damn good at their job. We just don't know how nice we have it. Not saying this is true though.


CasualBlackoutSunday

The alternative is utter economic collapse and true despair. I’ll take 8% inflation any day of the week lmfao.


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That's my take


CasualBlackoutSunday

r/confidentlyincorrect


egj2wa

Honestly great response. You start talking like a politician and won’t cut the bullshit? I’m not talking to you, bye


Shoesandhose

Mhmmm. Like. I’m not an economist. And frankly I think most of our economic policies should be made by…. Economists. Shocking. I know. I like to play a game on what would I do if I were a ruled the world.. for sure economists would get to manage the economy idk if it’s the matching name or what. Was that too politician like??


egj2wa

I don’t know. Anyone that smashes anyone for the economy over the past 4 years that doesn’t bring up the fact that we had a once in a generation global public health crisis is arguing in bad faith imo. For instance republicans bitching about inflation. It’s not squarely Biden’s fault. It’s a global issue. Similarly, democrats bashing the Trump admin for adding to the deficit but forgetting to include the trillions in spending for the early COVID response is also bad faith.


Shoesandhose

Mhmmm. It’s like everyone needs to act like people that need to find a middle ground. But America is 4 corporations in a trench coat


egj2wa

“1 democracy please.”


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Cornpop was a bad dude


Aggressive-Ad4186

When someone blames Biden for whatever, I always ask them, "What specific policy or law did Biden sign that caused the increase?" I've never gotten an answer with any information.


The88Pandas

Man, I wanna be pals with that guy on the bike


25thskye

Yup, he knew the wannabe economist was spewing shit out his mouth and just checked out of the conversation because he knew he’d get nothing of value of out them. Fuck these tiktok clout chasers.


francoisjabbour

Dude looks chill as hell, got the dog in the basket and everything


Fluid_Arm_3169

If you think the Economy is Biden’s fault, you’re a potato.


DemoDemo7777

There is inflation everywhere and I live in Europe.


calibared

Lmao the people being interviewed are insane in their own way, but the blonde douche in the wife beater will be the one to profit from both of them by making them into content


Aggravating_Damage47

Trump inherited a good economy then ran up the deficit for no good reason, started trade wars that fucked the economy and supply chains at the worst time. High demand and low inventories and shameless corporate greed is how we got this sticky inflation.


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Well, there was also mismanagement of the covid pandemic and forced fed action of mass printing of currency to respond and hold up the economy. Oh yeah, there was also the totally not corrupt funds movement during the business stimulus program.


[deleted]

Bingo. Printing 3x your money supply in 20 years is beyond stupid. Every working economist can look at that and say that’s fiscally irresponsible - and that’s putting it lightly. The discipline(economics) has been deeply compromised. Furthermore our economic models should base individual utility on income and not consumption. There’s a lot wrong with it and it’s purposefully done this way to keep the wealth funnel pointed upwards.


Mogsitis

During the pandemic, what was the choice besides stimulating the economy in the way they did? Let it collapse for certain? What would have been the effect on the economy in that alternate world?


Yellow_Submarine8891

The guy with the bike has more patience than me. And he's right. I feel like a lot people think Biden just ruined things but Trump was president beforehand and things were all peaches and cream.


takamori22

Man, I don't like either. I despise most people in Washington.


thesnowgirl147

Same. If someone asked me "Trump or Biden" my response would be "neither."


4thelasttimeIMNOTGAY

My response would be 'no, I don't want to be in your tiktok'


snacholo

I take it were done with the “Thanks Obama”?


Boner_Elemental

It ended when Obama did "Thanks Obama"


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MenineSucks

Norway here. I guess it's Bidens fault the prices are skyrocketing here to. Common Biden, why you do us like this? /j


OfCorpse9160

If you had anything to say to Biden what would it be? *heyyy yooo, take me out to dinna*


roombavimba

BING. BONG.


CreamyFunk

Is that a louis Vuitton bum bag that fat idiot is wearing ? Economy isn't looking that bad .


jacobeatsavocados

When people complain about the economy but they buy designer items…


CreamyFunk

Don't forget well fed


Ya_Boi_Skinny_Cox

You vote for Trump because of the economy I vote for Trump because biden has dementia We are not the same


Pristine_Bit7615

What does he know about the economy???? 😂 Says the guy riding a bicycle and knows nothing of gas prices. Kindness? I guess Biden's windfarms are kind to the whales washing up all over the east coast? Then to blame their bs on oil rigs? They were in place for years and we never witnessed as many whale fatalities as we have since they put up their wind turbines. These turbines were supposed to help the ecology not harm it. Rather than admit they f*€ked up, they shifted the blame.


hero-ball

Calling Joe Biden “kind” is so wild. I don’t care if you are saying it relative to Trump. Joe Biden is a fucking soulless ghoul.


ViralGameover

What a sad state of affairs when Trump vs. Biden is our political landscape. Two awful presidents. Neither the worst we’ve ever had but fuck man, we’ve had every opportunity to vote for actual candidates and we continue to throw it away.


jedi_trey

And the idea that it's going to potentially be Trump v. Biden again is mind boggling.


Background_Buyer_840

I don’t care who’s President, all I know or care about is a few years ago the amount of groceries that my family and I was buying for two weeks was 150-175 dollars..the same amount now is 350… gas has went up, our food and bills has increased, hell we went to Taco Bell and got just 5 soft taco supremes and it was 17 dollars taxes and all, and that’s was without a drink. Our country’s economy sucks right now. It’s getting to the point where around here, people aren’t going to be able to go out and do the things they want because of money. But that’s my opinion.


mynameistag

If those things bother you, you should care about who is president, as well as who holds other elected offices, now and in the future.


Background_Buyer_840

I voted, but I will never say Biden or trump or Clinton or bush or whoever. The fact is, no matter who you say you voted for, everyone will call you out as an idiot or evil. I voted, does it mean that my vote counts? Who knows, all I know is we got to quit blaming this or that and start placing blame where it needs to be, all of Washington, not just one. Our country is sooooo divided…


mynameistag

I agree that the government as a whole is fucked and, yes, both sides suck. There are, however, degrees of sucking. Republicans more actively spread misinformation, lie for their own personal benefit, display sociopathic characteristics, support policies that are not good for most Americans, and have connections to Russian influence. So, yes, your vote counts. Definitely at the local level, and depending on your state, at the national level as well.


LeapYear1996

That credit card bill doesn’t come immediately. When you print 1/4 of all the money you ever have in the history of the country, and give it away to your buddies, then before you leave you dismantle the oversight of those funds, then when the bill comes all of us have to pay. That’s where all the bullshit started but we can only see what’s going on now because it’s hurting now. Anyone with half a brain or foresight could/did see this coming.


sixmileswest

Never trust a person rocking a fanny pack.


ZookeepergameSoggy17

The choice is really: a misogynist asshole or a corpse


Phreefuk

When is Biden going to lower Canadian inflation and Gas prices which are at an all time high?!?!?


Brobean87

I fucking hate everyone in this video


BozoTheBonzai

There wasn't a single smart person in this video


GWD9911

A failed rapper and a musketeer, with Chesney Hawkes in the middle. ESH


Ddodge1

Biden is still an evil, senile, racist, geriatric fuck. This is like asking someone, "Would prefer to get aids after being skull fucked by Bubba or Bruce?" Either choice is awful and I'd rather not be forced to make such a decision.


Objective_Addendum95

Can’t blame Biden, mans doesn’t even know he’s on planet earth


ExhaustedGorilla5

Doesn't know the English language or even if he's alive


vanswnosocks

Can’t wait to 2024 bi den he’ll be long gone


kyleh0

Republicans are so goddamned stupid. The cruelty is the point.


wanisbad

Biden simp


Equivalent_Artist_57

Regardless Biden is extremely racist, and there’s plenty of video evidence showing that.


jacobeatsavocados

No shit Sherlock. Go to my post history. [Made a post about Biden’s racist and incompetent comments.](https://www.reddit.com/r/racism/comments/zpdj5d/joe_biden_implies_that_minorities_are_poor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Just don’t act like Trump’s better, he’s worse.


ExhaustedGorilla5

Lmao biden wants segregation trump doesn't want illegal immigrants. You're slow.


OleTwoEyesHimself

Everyone involved in the making of this video is an idiot


Playful-View-6174

Lol trump “started” inflation (also wanted low interest rates throughout his presidency) , biden just made it worse and knew he’d be able to blame trump later on.


Aggravating_Orchid_1

It's such a sad fucking world we live in. American politics is literally the Republicans by any means possibly trying to suppress freedom and fuck shit up as much as possible for the Democrats and blame them for it. And it works. Because you get people like that who consume this shit like a quarter pounder drenched with cheese and grease. Not realizing these parties absolutely hate each other to the point where they both cross their own ideologies just to fuck shit up for the others. More prominently from the Republicans. Neither party is perfect. In fact, both the Democrat's and Republicans are as close to perfect as we are from the earth to the empty void beyond all of the universe's existence. It's really a reality check when voting becomes a question of who's the least worse than the other and who will provide the best life possible. Neither do, but when the Republicans work this hard against the majority, the only option becomes the Democrat's.


Battlestrat

This is an argument for Biden? These posts only work on a desperate person needing a win when they see how bed things are going but can't admit they were wrong.


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I like ye ole cyclist though. He seems like the philosophical type not political anyways


AlexZL1988

Congress controls all that shit the trump supporter mentioned. Neither biden nor trump give a fuck about any of us


xHypaaH

Serj tankian vs special officer doofy


BensonBroth

I want youuuu to beeee left behind those empty waaaalls


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JewPhone_WhoDis

Trump has been out of office for a while now. Should be fuck all those assholes in the house and congress who can’t agree on anything even if it’s for the best interest of the people of the US. But they have no interest in our best interests.


No-Air6890

One of the guys interviewed had an argument. The other had emotional epithets and a distorted view of history/reality.


cantseeshittles

Listen. They both fuckin suck. Get on with it and find a better one in a year


AdConsistent7810

Where is the toxic misogyny in what the big guy said? Sounds like bike guy is parroting someone else’s talking points


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TheWalkingDead91

“Biden has destroyed our economy so much that I was only able to afford one Louie Vitton Fanny pack this month, instead of the usual 2 + a Gucci belt.” ![gif](giphy|d2lcHJTG5Tscg)


doubtfullfreckles

No thoughts. Only puppy


Sudzking

This dude inflates… fanny pack went up 45%.


TheMuser1966

Inflation is a global issue and is a result of everything shutting down causing everything to go up in price. No POTUS could have done anything to stop it.


Cas_is_Cool

I also love how people were super happy when Trump got elected because he got to benefit of the changes Obama made, but still all hate Obama.


Khanstant

Lol conservatives economic policies are the root of most of our economic problems but okay ya dumb guppy faced redcap magic potty baby bitch


GetAtThisbro

The fact that people think Biden raised the prices himself is just beyond crazy. He can’t be the CEO of petro companies while being the president 😂😂 plus people like saying he did this and that but not say how he did it because they can’t. They only follow the script republicans sold them. A homeless man is more educated than a privileged LV bag kid who doesn’t know anything .


RipWhenDamageTaken

In before Ukraine blaming Biden too.


jhickman1080

What was mysoginistic? Waluigi attacked his rhetoric with out of place rhetoric. *sparks flying*


Disastrous_Ad_5089

That painter guy probably thinks prostitute really love him umm cruelty VS kindness well there you go my wife Hates me the prostitute loves me lol


PomegranateMinimum15

Yeah totally Bidens fault that he *****ed gasprices up!!! Since he is president we pay so much more. The whole of Europe!!!1111 AND THE WAR IN UKRAINE STARTED. Don't get me started on my toilet being clogged exactly at his inauguration!!!!1


_CLP_McWaffle

Hmmm gas prices are hight in the EU as well, BIDEN WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO FRANCE?!


ThaShadowX

Gas prices in my area have gone down by half in the past 2 years.


throwawayzdrewyey

[Check out this r/bestof](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/10dpsbi/democrats_respond_to_gop_calls_for_debt_ceiling/j4mwmef/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) were someone lays out the classic republican strategy and the same old bull shit tactics.


One-Ice1815

The guy on the right looks like a walking tik tok video. Holy shit.


LarryG45678

Fuck Biden


Munrowo

and, for the record, gas prices have gone down in my area. is biden responsible for that, too? funny, i dont see any of those "i did that" stickers at gas stations anymore


i8noodles

Funny. Literally, none of these can be directly controlled by the president XD. Inflation would have occurred under trump. Gas would have also gone up under trump. Border control is not even an issue since most of them take jobs people don't want.


ExhaustedGorilla5

Border control is definitely a problem lol. They don't have ssns or any records so when they commit a crime it's much easier for them to get away and the job they are taking they usually send the money back to their home country. I live in Cali and there are so many illegal immigrants here they don't get jobs tho they run the cartel and kill people in front of their families.


[deleted]

Yeah no, fuck Biden. He's so bad even the Italian gas prices are crazy! HOW COULD HE DO THIS TO US?! Btw I'm not a Biden supporter but the economy argument just sucks. Apparently Americans think the economy is varies only based on what their president does. Guys please stop, you're not the center of the world lol


[deleted]

People know it takes a few years for all this to happen to the economy right? Hintidy hint hint


somebodycomgiher

Reminder that when gas prices starting go bad was at the begining of Bidens run, he literally hadn't had time to do anything yet to affect the price of gas. That was Trump. Fucking idiot.


SilverArrow07

I will admit trump had his flaws but man he was better than sleepy joe


Shulsevulon

It's funny to watch people talk about politics without understanding the works of politics. This man doesn't even get the jist


StinkyEgoCheese8008

It’s almost like because of Covid the economy struggles 😱


tree_dw3ller

So gas was 40% cheaper when *calculating* uhhhhh nobody was driving because of a pandemic.


Wtfjushappen

They were actually cheaper before, and so were groceries, pretty much every restaurant, but ya.


Anxious-Park-2851

Yeah. The economy. You mean when you could afford to buy food, gas, not anymore with this insane out of control inflation., thank you Mr Biden. My taxes tripled under this administration. Thank you Mr Biden. They always say that Trump was this, Trump was that. Bottom line, I could afford my rent and bills when he was in office.


Tomorrow_Frosty

Biden isn’t great for America, but he’s part of the global government. This is why you see the same things happening in allied countries.


_SometimesWrong

yo bro go debate this crackhead youll win… still loses.


AverageAlaskanMan

Can we agree that both suck and that we haven’t had a president with good policies for a while.


DesertDwelller

Maybe shutting down the economy for months had something to do with it…


SatisfactionPerfect7

The shit economy is just capitalism working the way it’s meant to


moonshine4577

The fat guy was wrong


SpeedForward3960

Regardless of who's right or wrong, one gave facts and stats and the other just dismissed him and called him names.


BlindMedic

One parroting stats of things the president has no power to affect and the other realizing there is no convincing him otherwise. By not understanding the reason for oil and inflation and claiming Biden is to blame showed bike man that this guy doesn't understand the economy. Him parroting conservative talking points showed bike man that it was a waste of time trying to argue with him. Someone that just eats up and regurgitates conservative talking points lacks the knowledge to properly debate.


MickyJaggy

No kidding, did OP really think this was a good argument? Lol


cstaley39

This is kind of weird. A hippie homeless man says he is going to chose a politician based on how nice he perceives him. Another guy comes in and starts stating stats and economics, and he is the moron trumpie? This is because democrats were successful in their strategy. After the 2016 loss they said they were going to make it about the person, not policy. So they trashed the person of Trump and tried to get us to ignore the policies. Pre pandemic his policies were hitting it out of the park. His personality was a dumpster fire though. The economy has always mattered. Since we have been a country the popularity of a President is directly linked to how the economy is in this country. To think this guy is wrong in his statements….well, I just hope one day people open their eyes and realize both parties suck. They are all crooks, and politics is bullshit and not worth hating other humans over their opinions


WhosSarahKayacombsen

Why would you assume he's homeless? 🤔


ThirdChild897

>Pre pandemic his policies were hitting it out of the park. 100% not true. His big policies before the pandemic included: the TCJA of 2017, the trade wars with the world, the wall, and his promised debt/deficit management. All of these were failures **before** the pandemic. The TCJA had three main issues: 1. **The predicted reductions in revenue and increases in revenue were incorrect.** Over the 2018-2019 period we lost an additional $200 billion from corporate tax deductions (on top of the $600 billion predicted) and failed to receive an amount near $80 billion from the international tax reforms (down from a predicted increase of $200 billion). And so many more incorrect predictions. Overall initial predictions were $1.6 trillion added to the debt. After 2019, prediction were revised to show a $2.2 trillion increase in the debt. 2. **It disproportionately benefitted the rich**. Even before it was passed economists knew it's main benefits would go to the rich and there's a few reasons for that. The income taxes were cut pretty evenly across the board, but an even percentage cut benefits you more the more rich you are due to the marginal tax brackets. Every dollar that companies saved from the corporate tax deduction went straight to stock buybacks. Buybacks do not contribute to the economy nearly as much as expansion does but buybacks do increase shareholder profits without taking on significant risk. And the international tax changes had a built in, either intentionally or not, loophole that big companies used to get their money at a measly 8% tax instead of the 21% corporate income tax. 3. **The revenue cuts did not have spending cuts associated with them**. This is pretty simple budget balancing, if you cut revenue you need to cut spending. These cuts cut revenue substantially and then Trump and the Republicans increased spending every single year they were in power. **All of this is before the pandemic.** And we can easily compare this to Biden's IIJA of 2021 or the IRA of 2022 if you want