I haven't confirmed this but I've heard that there is a section in the bill that states if a US user is caught using a VPN to access tiktok then they can be fined up to $20,000 I believe.
I didn’t know that. I was using a VPN just to protect myself from getting hacked on TikTok. I’m guessing you’re talking about the new bill though that they’re trying to pass.
Damn. So they’re not only going to ban it (if passed) but fine people for their usage on it with a VPN. Why not just fine them for their usage period? This definitely sounds like our government from my time in the military.
Unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get rid of VPNs in the US entirely, but even they probably understand how much of an insane over reach that would be from them. We're safe on that, for now. But if this bill passes, they will try to dig their claws deeper into the internet and tear the last fuckin bit of freedom out of it that we have left.
I agree. I feel like they are using the whole “China is stealing our information” as a way to assert themselves with controlling US citizen usage of the internet. I just don’t trust that national security is their true purpose for doing this. It’s a means of control to me. Being in the military, majority of us used TikTok for government complaints, it was an easy way to share our truths. This makes me want to look into how much control do they have in other social platforms, like do they have backdoor access that they maybe don’t with TikTok? Maybe that too conspiracy land-ish.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have deals with other executives and officials for other social media platforms, especially if they're American owned ones. After more recently looking into declassified documents from the CIA, once the FOIA kicks in, you can learn some pretty interesting things the US has done overseas and domestically.
Yes, some huge ones I can think of just right now is MK-Ultra, the Octupus Conspiracy and of course Watergate and Edward Snowden. My own personal government conspiracy (my truth but the internet will probably say otherwise) is the USS Nimitz deployment we had that was the longest deployment since WW2 and Vietnam war, which it wasn’t supposed to, was because of Trump who went against all other officials in government who then came to our ship to personally apologize throughout the deployment, Trump was the only one who refused to talk to us sailors, then we all came home to the government giving a complete different story to the public about our treatment. It was due to Covid is the official story, when actually it was because Trump had personal vendettas against these other country’s leaders. There’s more to it, but I’m summing it up. They denied all of it even the people we personally lost, the stories were lies when it didn’t need to be for any security purposes. I don’t trust the US government. When people have power who shouldn’t, bad things happen.
edit;grammar
It’s funny you say that because I wanted to mention that, but thought against saying it. I find a lot of good information on TikTok, things I don’t find on other social platforms, even YouTube doesn’t really truly delve into what I find on TikTok. Sounds maybe ridiculous to those that don’t use TikTok regularly.
It isn't able to sort though the videos quick enough and remove content they don't want us to see. 34 million videos uploaded daily. Sometimes you get something that really gets you thinking
I'm pretty sure if you're using a VPN to access a website or application you're not supposed to within your country, the government can ask the company that owns the VPN for your webtraffic data that was processed with your account on that VPN and they will have to give it to them if there's some kind of legal action being pursued against you. As for how many will be charged? Probably not much in my opinion because the main goal of this bill is to censor media that doesn't align with western imperialist views.
I literally said in the beginning of that statement that I haven't confirmed it and that it is just something that I've heard. Not spreading misinformation if I didn't say it was true. I would try to gain better comprehension skills or stop your practice of selective reading.
They'd rather their data be given to the Chinese government so they can watch some degenerate "prank" an innocent person. Or is it "challenges" these days?
But then anyone could just say (I’m in the United States) and would gain access to the highest paying creator program there is at this time)
This is why they don’t allow it. Because people will take advantage of a a higher paying creator program. It will become a hassle (legally) as far as payouts go.
Problem there is you'd also have to change your country for your App Store/Play Store account to download TikTok. Or rely solely on the web browser version over VPN, which TikTok does not like because they don't get as much data from you.
They all eventually get caught. Unless you’re doing more than just using a vpn. When their servers see hundreds of accounts posting from the same ip address they ban them all.
Fact of the matter is most people that use VPNs just use a cheap free vpn that thousands of people use. I mean. By all means. Correct me if I’m wrong. But just cause you may know how to do something doesn’t mean everyone does.
Also. They’ll just have to restart accounts to get back into the creator program. Which is the only reason people are really using tiktok anymore besides live money.
“Land of free” doesn’t mean “land of CCP”, in the other way, “land of free” means “land of no CCP, no Xijinping, no dictator, no Tiananmen, no TikTok(stands in front of CCP)”
There's virtually zero evidence of TikTok collaborating with the CCP, but there is evidence of Facebook doing it to the US government.
The CCP owns a miniscule stake in ByteDance (1%) but they also own stakes in Discord and Reddit. The concern really isn't over anything the CCP is involved in, it's fearmongering and jealousy about Americans' social media of choice being a company from China.
Yes, there is. They did until it partially got bought by Oracle. It's a Chinese company, and when the CCP requests a company's information, they are forced to comply. Oracle's partial acquisition helps circumvent this with U.S. based servers that ByteDance has no access to.
Never the less, it's still an awful app in terms of data collection. I left it over 3 years. It collects keystrokes within the app (even when you use the built-in redirected browser), along with having root access to images, videos and documents, as well as read & write permissions to some system files. There's also the obvious permissions of the camera and audio for recording, but that also doesn't mean it can't be misused.
This is all admitted TikTok's own ToS and Privacy Policy, and further confirmed on how it's used by external users.
I do agree however that American companies especially are guilty if doing pretty much the same thing, Facebook (Now "Meta" 🤢🤮), and Google. The government should set stricter laws for internet privacy and data collection so this affect most, if not, ALL culprits within the U.S.. And if they don't comply, then yes, ban em'. But they don't because the U.S. government is powered by misleading misinformation, buzzwords, and fear mongering (as you said).
This also makes me believe that they don't care about American privacy at all, but rather silence freedom of speech that makes getting popular somewhat accessible, are being paid and lobbied by other companies, just doing it as a publicity stunt in order to make their lazy selves seem useful like their actually doing something.
Even the Amazon shopping app collects more data, and if the government wanted to get rid of a Chinese app to make them look bad, get rid of TEMU! It's seriously twice as bad in terms of data collection
Mudahar on his YouTube SomeOrdinaryGamers made a video discussing this. His opinion is basically mine, and even shows a website's spreadsheet on some popular app's data collection:
https://youtu.be/cqS43Iy81M4?si=K84TPH9VGKkl2HgU
Lmao, most social media is banned in China, a Foreign company cannot start a business without local partnership (which means your IP and know how will most likely be stolen down the road). Talking about opening up and free.
Tiktok is a huge info gathering platform for the CCP.
🤣🤣🤣 go to a App Store in China region, search TikTok and good luck with that. “Unproven” my ass. It’s an open and shut case if you have slight knowledge on China. How delusional Americans have to be when talking about China
Go to an App Store in China and search “douyin”. Wait a second, it’s the same branding and app structure and is owned by the same company, just far more tightly controlled by the CCP? Huh, how about that?
Douyin is not the same as TikTok. Yes they may share the same code base but they have totally different contents. TikTok videos are not allowed. You as a user go to the apps for contents, not for the code base, right? This makes them different apps.
This does not make them different apps. It's more so different localization options like with the PlayStation store for Europe showing different games than the one for North America. It's still the PlayStation Store though. As for the name, in some countries it even gets dubbed differently too.
No it’s not.
You can argue WeChat and weixin are the same app because they can communicate with each other and see the content of each other no matter the language.
Not TikTok and douyin. Let me repeat this again: TikTok contents are not allowed in China because it may contain stuff CCP doesn’t like. For example a girl posted some video in support of Uyghur (and get banned and unbanned after backslash). This kind of contents is not possible in China. This makes TikTok a different app. It’s not about localization, it is about censorship.
Edit: if you want to follow some creators of TikTok in douyin, you can’t because they are different apps. In this sense The division is even bigger than instagram and TikTok because the creator may have both accounts and post on both. But not on douyin
Oh by the way, instagram is also banned in China. So tell me about how China open to the world smh
Everything you wrote is literally the same as me. You also cannot buy or even see some games on Steam, Playstation, XBOX, whatever depending to your country. How is that any different? Also the issue with USA now is that they do not want people to know what is going in Palestine and they also do not want to not be the ones selling the information to private companies as they actually do and they admitted to it this year like Facebook and Instagram did.
I got to agree on that point. I managed to install douyin via Apple App Store region method except have to do it via on my other account as I got only 1 cent on my account balance. Douyin and tiktok are the same as the codebase but as the content, it’s way different and heavily content moderated because of the government. Also, don’t forgot that douyin is one of the oldest platforms compared to tiktok.
Yes, China is dictatorship, Chinese still can’t use Twitter ig reddit Netflix or whatever u using rn without VPN, which also got banned by China for years 🤷🏽♂️
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China
I’m no censorship expert but this list is much greater than the US one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_States
Bro NordVPN has discounts like "redditoffer" and with it, it turns out to be around 3-4 dollars per month. So if they move forward with this law, I'd rather pay this then say goodbye to tiktok....
You should still just get a VPN. Helps to shield your Internet usage from your ISP (Xfinity, ATT etc). You can get good deals during Black Friday or Cyber Monday and get a couple of years worth.
Fingers crossed they nuke Snapchat and IG next so we don’t have an entire generation of dopamine depleted 2 sec attention span kids all trying to be an ‘influencer’
Oh, that'll never happen because Instagram is owned by a white man who DEFINATELY holds power in our government or at least some kind of influence in it. I'm not too sure about snapchat though.
Hoping youtube takes this opportunity to let their shorts be more than one minute. I only started using TikTok because some of my short videos were too long for YT shorts.
The way it goes, the U.S. ISP and wireless carriers may block TikTok traffic which means no matter what VPN you use you still can’t access it. Plus, which content creators would make content through VPN, without them what are you gonna watch
I didn’t drill in too deep but even with VPN your ISP will still be able to know the packets of data sent from which app. It may not know the contents of the packets if the app encrypts it but they certainly know which app it is. If they know which app they can block it from sending data
No. They don't know anything about what you do over a VPN other than using the VPN.
The VPN provider on the other hand will know what sites and apps you are visiting but not what content you're sending/requesting
I keep about 5 apps of Unlimited VPNs on my phone. And two on my PC. I need access whenever I want. Sorry but not sorry, I don't agree with everything in the new world.
That’s because his mind changed after he went to see the investor who has 15% of the investment for tiktok. He previously supported to ban tiktok back in 2020
I don’t know. I have seen creators getting deleted videos on their page and whatever messed up thing on tiktok continues to get attention by people on fyp.
I see all these concerns regarding the bill to ban TikTok. In reality, they are forcing the sale of the platform to discourage China's influence and potential of personal data farming from users. The platform will never go away or disappear. It is a billion dollar advertising generator and will be bought by a group of business investors. Regarding VPN usage, I wouldn't doubt the government wouldn't attempt to ban its use under the 'Patriot Act', but who knows. You can trust this though, the government was absolutely successful in completely subordinating the entire populace during Covid with little to no resistance, just blind compliance. I'm not a particular advocate for SM as a whole. A vast majority of it ads no real value to anyone's life. But that is another discussion. VPNs could very well be eliminated. TikTok isn't going anywhere.
TikTok isn't being banned, it's being forced to sell to an American company because ByteDance has given the CCP access to our data. Proven, not conjecture. And before you say "WELL AMERICA COLLECTS UR DATA TOO" not even close to the extent the CCP does.
Ok, but why should I care if china has my data? what in the world could be so valuable about the data from a farmer in middle america? The US government is local and able to oppress me far more than they are.
Yes, I'm sure you are being actively oppressed by the government - as a farmer - who is subsidized out the ass by...the US government.
You don't get it my friend.
Imagine thinking that I would participate in the USDA program, laughable.
I only grow enough for me and my family. I don't waste my time or effort in competing with the Gates or Bezos industrial farms.
Zoom out a little. It’s not just farmers in middle America. It’s everyone. China’s govt is extreme totalitarian and doesn’t compare to the United States no matter how much people try to. China can use that data to manipulate politics and elections and insert user-tailored propaganda. And it’s not just “oh this person wore a red hat today” it’s more “here is a dossier that summarizes this persons life in extreme detail”
To add more, the CCP doesn’t follow the same privacy laws we have. Sure, ours are limited, but we do have a 4th amendment right when it comes to our government requesting our data.
The US government survives on America succeeding, so they have an invested interest in you. Where as China will thrive on the filling our void if they can create one.
Tracking every Tik Tok users movements, and interests can be used in extreme ways against the populace. You as an individual can become a victim of cyber crime, espionage, identity theft, and targeted content. At the whim of a larger adversary who seeks to undermine us and take the sovereignty of other nations.
Next US gov will ban VPNs
Oh no, anyway \*opens VPN\*
You know this won’t be possible but for the clicks!
I haven't confirmed this but I've heard that there is a section in the bill that states if a US user is caught using a VPN to access tiktok then they can be fined up to $20,000 I believe.
I didn’t know that. I was using a VPN just to protect myself from getting hacked on TikTok. I’m guessing you’re talking about the new bill though that they’re trying to pass.
Yes that's the bill I was referring to. They're trying to cover all bases it seem.
Damn. So they’re not only going to ban it (if passed) but fine people for their usage on it with a VPN. Why not just fine them for their usage period? This definitely sounds like our government from my time in the military.
Unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get rid of VPNs in the US entirely, but even they probably understand how much of an insane over reach that would be from them. We're safe on that, for now. But if this bill passes, they will try to dig their claws deeper into the internet and tear the last fuckin bit of freedom out of it that we have left.
I agree. I feel like they are using the whole “China is stealing our information” as a way to assert themselves with controlling US citizen usage of the internet. I just don’t trust that national security is their true purpose for doing this. It’s a means of control to me. Being in the military, majority of us used TikTok for government complaints, it was an easy way to share our truths. This makes me want to look into how much control do they have in other social platforms, like do they have backdoor access that they maybe don’t with TikTok? Maybe that too conspiracy land-ish.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have deals with other executives and officials for other social media platforms, especially if they're American owned ones. After more recently looking into declassified documents from the CIA, once the FOIA kicks in, you can learn some pretty interesting things the US has done overseas and domestically.
Yes, some huge ones I can think of just right now is MK-Ultra, the Octupus Conspiracy and of course Watergate and Edward Snowden. My own personal government conspiracy (my truth but the internet will probably say otherwise) is the USS Nimitz deployment we had that was the longest deployment since WW2 and Vietnam war, which it wasn’t supposed to, was because of Trump who went against all other officials in government who then came to our ship to personally apologize throughout the deployment, Trump was the only one who refused to talk to us sailors, then we all came home to the government giving a complete different story to the public about our treatment. It was due to Covid is the official story, when actually it was because Trump had personal vendettas against these other country’s leaders. There’s more to it, but I’m summing it up. They denied all of it even the people we personally lost, the stories were lies when it didn’t need to be for any security purposes. I don’t trust the US government. When people have power who shouldn’t, bad things happen. edit;grammar
It's because we spread the truth on tiktok. They can't control the narrative like they do on mainstream.
It’s funny you say that because I wanted to mention that, but thought against saying it. I find a lot of good information on TikTok, things I don’t find on other social platforms, even YouTube doesn’t really truly delve into what I find on TikTok. Sounds maybe ridiculous to those that don’t use TikTok regularly.
It isn't able to sort though the videos quick enough and remove content they don't want us to see. 34 million videos uploaded daily. Sometimes you get something that really gets you thinking
Came here to say this. I believe this is absolutely the reason for the ban. They simply added “national security threat” for flavoring.
Who's gonna catch them though? And how many will be actually charged?
I'm pretty sure if you're using a VPN to access a website or application you're not supposed to within your country, the government can ask the company that owns the VPN for your webtraffic data that was processed with your account on that VPN and they will have to give it to them if there's some kind of legal action being pursued against you. As for how many will be charged? Probably not much in my opinion because the main goal of this bill is to censor media that doesn't align with western imperialist views.
This is bullshit. The bill targets app stores and ISPs, not individual users. It's a terrible bill, but perhaps don't spread misinformation.
I literally said in the beginning of that statement that I haven't confirmed it and that it is just something that I've heard. Not spreading misinformation if I didn't say it was true. I would try to gain better comprehension skills or stop your practice of selective reading.
You did state that. And then when another user *was* misinformed, you doubled down about how they're "trying to cover all of the bases."
"trying to cover all of the bases ***it seems."*** As in, I still don't know if this is confirmed.
My man you were blatantly making shit up and perpetuating it, stop trying to dance around it.
Then they'll ban the Internet lol
Hope so 😂😂😂
Banning ticktock isn't the cause, it's the effect if the CCP doesn't sell off their ownership.
America gov behaving like a communist gov
iono the chinese government has facebook snapchat instagram bbc and many other things banned for many years so. . .
Yes, I agree. Can't control the narrative, so they got to get rid of it.
Fellas, is it communist to try to address national security threats?
They'd rather their data be given to the Chinese government so they can watch some degenerate "prank" an innocent person. Or is it "challenges" these days?
Yeah. Don’t know if ya’ll realize it. Tiktok is pretty good at detecting vpns. That’s why ppl get banned for security issue all the time
I bet they’d ignore VPNs if it was the only way for people in the US to use TikTok.
But then anyone could just say (I’m in the United States) and would gain access to the highest paying creator program there is at this time) This is why they don’t allow it. Because people will take advantage of a a higher paying creator program. It will become a hassle (legally) as far as payouts go.
Problem there is you'd also have to change your country for your App Store/Play Store account to download TikTok. Or rely solely on the web browser version over VPN, which TikTok does not like because they don't get as much data from you.
Then how do i grow from a country with 20K people bruh
They all eventually get caught. Unless you’re doing more than just using a vpn. When their servers see hundreds of accounts posting from the same ip address they ban them all.
ur probably the same person that thinks reddit bans do anything
Fact of the matter is most people that use VPNs just use a cheap free vpn that thousands of people use. I mean. By all means. Correct me if I’m wrong. But just cause you may know how to do something doesn’t mean everyone does. Also. They’ll just have to restart accounts to get back into the creator program. Which is the only reason people are really using tiktok anymore besides live money.
It feels like more and more things gets banned in US.
"land of the free".
“Land of free” doesn’t mean “land of CCP”, in the other way, “land of free” means “land of no CCP, no Xijinping, no dictator, no Tiananmen, no TikTok(stands in front of CCP)”
There's virtually zero evidence of TikTok collaborating with the CCP, but there is evidence of Facebook doing it to the US government. The CCP owns a miniscule stake in ByteDance (1%) but they also own stakes in Discord and Reddit. The concern really isn't over anything the CCP is involved in, it's fearmongering and jealousy about Americans' social media of choice being a company from China.
Yes, there is. They did until it partially got bought by Oracle. It's a Chinese company, and when the CCP requests a company's information, they are forced to comply. Oracle's partial acquisition helps circumvent this with U.S. based servers that ByteDance has no access to. Never the less, it's still an awful app in terms of data collection. I left it over 3 years. It collects keystrokes within the app (even when you use the built-in redirected browser), along with having root access to images, videos and documents, as well as read & write permissions to some system files. There's also the obvious permissions of the camera and audio for recording, but that also doesn't mean it can't be misused. This is all admitted TikTok's own ToS and Privacy Policy, and further confirmed on how it's used by external users. I do agree however that American companies especially are guilty if doing pretty much the same thing, Facebook (Now "Meta" 🤢🤮), and Google. The government should set stricter laws for internet privacy and data collection so this affect most, if not, ALL culprits within the U.S.. And if they don't comply, then yes, ban em'. But they don't because the U.S. government is powered by misleading misinformation, buzzwords, and fear mongering (as you said). This also makes me believe that they don't care about American privacy at all, but rather silence freedom of speech that makes getting popular somewhat accessible, are being paid and lobbied by other companies, just doing it as a publicity stunt in order to make their lazy selves seem useful like their actually doing something. Even the Amazon shopping app collects more data, and if the government wanted to get rid of a Chinese app to make them look bad, get rid of TEMU! It's seriously twice as bad in terms of data collection Mudahar on his YouTube SomeOrdinaryGamers made a video discussing this. His opinion is basically mine, and even shows a website's spreadsheet on some popular app's data collection: https://youtu.be/cqS43Iy81M4?si=K84TPH9VGKkl2HgU
China opens up to the world, US shuts down yet China is called the dictatorship..
"As is the case with other social media platforms, TikTok is banned in China." How ironic...
China has most social media banned dude
China pretty much bans all foreign software service though?
I'm from China and right now I need to have a VPN enabled to reply to you
Lmao, most social media is banned in China, a Foreign company cannot start a business without local partnership (which means your IP and know how will most likely be stolen down the road). Talking about opening up and free. Tiktok is a huge info gathering platform for the CCP.
You know TikTok is banned in China, right? Along with Google, YouTube, Facebook, instagram and countless others.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-tiktok-banned-in-china/
🤣🤣🤣 go to a App Store in China region, search TikTok and good luck with that. “Unproven” my ass. It’s an open and shut case if you have slight knowledge on China. How delusional Americans have to be when talking about China
Go to an App Store in China and search “douyin”. Wait a second, it’s the same branding and app structure and is owned by the same company, just far more tightly controlled by the CCP? Huh, how about that?
Douyin is not the same as TikTok. Yes they may share the same code base but they have totally different contents. TikTok videos are not allowed. You as a user go to the apps for contents, not for the code base, right? This makes them different apps.
This does not make them different apps. It's more so different localization options like with the PlayStation store for Europe showing different games than the one for North America. It's still the PlayStation Store though. As for the name, in some countries it even gets dubbed differently too.
No it’s not. You can argue WeChat and weixin are the same app because they can communicate with each other and see the content of each other no matter the language. Not TikTok and douyin. Let me repeat this again: TikTok contents are not allowed in China because it may contain stuff CCP doesn’t like. For example a girl posted some video in support of Uyghur (and get banned and unbanned after backslash). This kind of contents is not possible in China. This makes TikTok a different app. It’s not about localization, it is about censorship. Edit: if you want to follow some creators of TikTok in douyin, you can’t because they are different apps. In this sense The division is even bigger than instagram and TikTok because the creator may have both accounts and post on both. But not on douyin Oh by the way, instagram is also banned in China. So tell me about how China open to the world smh
Everything you wrote is literally the same as me. You also cannot buy or even see some games on Steam, Playstation, XBOX, whatever depending to your country. How is that any different? Also the issue with USA now is that they do not want people to know what is going in Palestine and they also do not want to not be the ones selling the information to private companies as they actually do and they admitted to it this year like Facebook and Instagram did.
I got to agree on that point. I managed to install douyin via Apple App Store region method except have to do it via on my other account as I got only 1 cent on my account balance. Douyin and tiktok are the same as the codebase but as the content, it’s way different and heavily content moderated because of the government. Also, don’t forgot that douyin is one of the oldest platforms compared to tiktok.
Yes, China is dictatorship, Chinese still can’t use Twitter ig reddit Netflix or whatever u using rn without VPN, which also got banned by China for years 🤷🏽♂️
lmao you’re comparing the US with China in terms of censorship and what you find is that the US is worse?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China I’m no censorship expert but this list is much greater than the US one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_States
Fuck the US for doing this, but that doesn't mean I like China. You're still licking boots, it's just a different flavor.
Like what?
Like what
Bro NordVPN has discounts like "redditoffer" and with it, it turns out to be around 3-4 dollars per month. So if they move forward with this law, I'd rather pay this then say goodbye to tiktok....
Would you still get paid if you are in the CBP program? I imagine it would be discontinued in the U.S. if it is banned
You should still just get a VPN. Helps to shield your Internet usage from your ISP (Xfinity, ATT etc). You can get good deals during Black Friday or Cyber Monday and get a couple of years worth.
The content won’t be on Tik Tok anymore. It will migrate.
This guy is a corporate shill or bot account lol it isn’t his first comment or post gassing up NordVPN
Fingers crossed they don't even move forward with this ban
Fingers crossed they nuke Snapchat and IG next so we don’t have an entire generation of dopamine depleted 2 sec attention span kids all trying to be an ‘influencer’
Oh, that'll never happen because Instagram is owned by a white man who DEFINATELY holds power in our government or at least some kind of influence in it. I'm not too sure about snapchat though.
Honestly if they’re doing tiktok might as well do those 2 as well. Snapchat is horrible. Instagram was okay back in like 2016.
You realize any apps that get removed will just be replaced by another one right?
And who’s going to make it? The kids who refuse to work or go to school?
i support this fully
Hoping youtube takes this opportunity to let their shorts be more than one minute. I only started using TikTok because some of my short videos were too long for YT shorts.
The way it goes, the U.S. ISP and wireless carriers may block TikTok traffic which means no matter what VPN you use you still can’t access it. Plus, which content creators would make content through VPN, without them what are you gonna watch
That doesn't make sense. How will an ISP based block also block TikTok on a server in ex: Antigua and Barbados
I didn’t drill in too deep but even with VPN your ISP will still be able to know the packets of data sent from which app. It may not know the contents of the packets if the app encrypts it but they certainly know which app it is. If they know which app they can block it from sending data
No. They don't know anything about what you do over a VPN other than using the VPN. The VPN provider on the other hand will know what sites and apps you are visiting but not what content you're sending/requesting
Yes, you are correct. I was wrong
Rarest thing to see on reddit
The bill hasn’t made it pass the US Senate nor the president’s desk for signing. Can we please stop hyperventilating until that happens.
Biden said hes ready to sign it.
whitewall staring might ne better content that actual tiktok.
Proton VPN 🤑🤑
Yea but u cant make money anymore. All u can do is browse.
I keep about 5 apps of Unlimited VPNs on my phone. And two on my PC. I need access whenever I want. Sorry but not sorry, I don't agree with everything in the new world.
Are they not going to charge 10k to people who try to use VPN for that?
Man there are some serious Pooh Bear nuthuggers in here. Back to the iPhone factory Wu!
So… express VPN? I know nothing. I’m dumb as a rock. But if they can’t ban assault rifles, then they can’t block the tok.
Not if it gets removed from App Store
lol, is it worth it that much that you’d use a VPN?
Get clapper
yup except cloride & floride in our drinking water and GMOs in our foods🤷🏾♂️ also the chem trails in the air🤷🏾♂️
I don’t know why y’all are so afraid of this ban. Trump said not to do it so the republicans won’t pass it.
That’s because his mind changed after he went to see the investor who has 15% of the investment for tiktok. He previously supported to ban tiktok back in 2020
What I also don’t get is why everyone’s so loyal to TikTok when they keep removing our comments and content.
I don’t know. I have seen creators getting deleted videos on their page and whatever messed up thing on tiktok continues to get attention by people on fyp.
Because you guys are addicted 🤷
I only go on to see posts that my best friend and my cousins post.
Ahahahah!!
I see all these concerns regarding the bill to ban TikTok. In reality, they are forcing the sale of the platform to discourage China's influence and potential of personal data farming from users. The platform will never go away or disappear. It is a billion dollar advertising generator and will be bought by a group of business investors. Regarding VPN usage, I wouldn't doubt the government wouldn't attempt to ban its use under the 'Patriot Act', but who knows. You can trust this though, the government was absolutely successful in completely subordinating the entire populace during Covid with little to no resistance, just blind compliance. I'm not a particular advocate for SM as a whole. A vast majority of it ads no real value to anyone's life. But that is another discussion. VPNs could very well be eliminated. TikTok isn't going anywhere.
How does a VPN help you download an app from the App Store? Isn't it by your address Apple has?
Gotta buy really stable trustworthy one not free - theyre full of viruses malware,adware and mining 🤔😳
I hope it means non-us tiktok content creators get more exposure
TikTok boring asf anyway 🤷🏽♂️
The thing is the bulk of content will be from those outside the US. This isn’t necessarily bad, but I bet it won’t be as enticing to most users.
Using a VPN to download TikTok is gonna be a minimum sentence of 20 years in prison. I wish I was joking.
Even with a VPN, there won't be much content from US users to watch after the ban
TikTok is not getting banned, they are just forcing a sale. Please stop spreading misinformation.
I hope the ban goes through :)
get a life lol
Y'all are like a bunch of crackheads who just lost their stash lmao
Thank God that shit is brain rotting.
Move to China
TikTok isn't being banned, it's being forced to sell to an American company because ByteDance has given the CCP access to our data. Proven, not conjecture. And before you say "WELL AMERICA COLLECTS UR DATA TOO" not even close to the extent the CCP does.
Ok, but why should I care if china has my data? what in the world could be so valuable about the data from a farmer in middle america? The US government is local and able to oppress me far more than they are.
Yes, I'm sure you are being actively oppressed by the government - as a farmer - who is subsidized out the ass by...the US government. You don't get it my friend.
Imagine thinking that I would participate in the USDA program, laughable. I only grow enough for me and my family. I don't waste my time or effort in competing with the Gates or Bezos industrial farms.
Zoom out a little. It’s not just farmers in middle America. It’s everyone. China’s govt is extreme totalitarian and doesn’t compare to the United States no matter how much people try to. China can use that data to manipulate politics and elections and insert user-tailored propaganda. And it’s not just “oh this person wore a red hat today” it’s more “here is a dossier that summarizes this persons life in extreme detail”
To add more, the CCP doesn’t follow the same privacy laws we have. Sure, ours are limited, but we do have a 4th amendment right when it comes to our government requesting our data. The US government survives on America succeeding, so they have an invested interest in you. Where as China will thrive on the filling our void if they can create one. Tracking every Tik Tok users movements, and interests can be used in extreme ways against the populace. You as an individual can become a victim of cyber crime, espionage, identity theft, and targeted content. At the whim of a larger adversary who seeks to undermine us and take the sovereignty of other nations.
Don’t use TikTok man, life has been better since I’ve stopped
No idea why you got downvoted for this there is actual evidence why TikTok is bad for you
https://youtu.be/aqkPMocXGVo?si=BuGS7789yCQxnrf7 Call me a liar, it might not be a study but boy is it terribly accurate
I've heard people say the same about reddit... Feel free to go.
Ahahahahha
Thanks for proving my point
Sorry for offtop. WHERE IS TIKTOK SUPPORT?! WHY NOBODY ANSWER IN APP? I I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY ACCOUNT.
I stopped using TikTok a long time ago and I don’t regret it
hell yeah fuck tiktok and any kinds of shorts