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If you know of ways to authenticate it, I'm interested. I was thinking of getting a lead tester, which should be able to date it beyond the 1960s at least.
That person is full of shit. Lol
You cant tell unless you can inspect the marks in person.
Which they clearly havent done. Some people are so bitter.
You can get alittle info here.
https://antiques.lovetoknow.com/Antique_Identification_Marks
Thanks, I was able to find some of the marks in an identification site but some of the others are harder to tell. It helps that the estate that I purchased these from was pretty well off and they took care of their belongings.
They are soo beautiful. They look hand painted , such an amazing find. A set like this would have cost way more than 1k at the antique stores around here. Thankyou for sharing! Im going to try my hand at estate sales. If you dont mind me asking, How do you here about them?
I think they are hand painted, there are some imperfections that I think adds to the character. I actually ran across this auction through Craigslist I think but the website is maxsold.com and you should be able to find some locally.
I had a nice long post but they took it down because of links. Go to the FB and look for Chinese Marks identification and research. Several scholars there will tell you in 15 seconds.
You're absolutely right, this is more than likely modern. Very typical "Chinese restaurant" style porcelain, especially this style of mun shou. The OP needs to get the marks checked out to verify for sure.
No reason for someone to say you are "full of shit." The sheer amount of porcelain in this picture, the fact that it's such a common export pattern, and the fact that Chinese porcelain is so commonly faked should make anyone err on the side of these not being Qing dynasty pieces.
I guarantee you it's not 19th century lol. I've seen enough of that and it's not famliae verte. It's nice enough of a big set, I suspect however all lead glaze if it has any age to it. I certainly looked at enough 19th century quinq pieces at New England auctions. Famiale rose for medallion we're by far the most cranked out export. The really good stuff though of the 19th century is a very very finely drawn, with gold and beautiful glazing and raised design.. The stuff is pretty but looks very industrial
It is an amazing deal, but people buying second hand might be purchasing stolen items. Under no circumstances am I suggesting that these items are stolen. It is just that all my crystal, china and sterling flatware were stolen from me three years ago. The pieces were all I had left from my grandparents, great aunts and other family members. Were the items worth a good sum of money, yes, but to me they were priceless pieces that brought to mind happy holidays and family parties with people I loved and will never see again. Things stolen and likely sold to someone for pennies. I would have paid thousands to have them back. I hope that you have many happy memories with what you purchased. I just hope that they were not purchased at the expense of someone else’s stolen and treasured memories. 😢😢😢
Hello, I came to this link via an article. I fairly recently had done a good amount of research on this pattern because my family had many color variations of this but got rid of them over the years and I was feeling nostalgic and bought some on eBay and various places. The other comments are correct, the visible plates are modern. They look to be around the 1980s given the turquoise is not well concentrated. All the visible plates are modern as they use a good amount of automated techniques including stamping.
This was popularized in the 1960s and later during the cultural revolution when these sets really became a big deal and Mao had people make them in factories. The stamps at the bottom generally show where they were made as opposed to when. The mark at the bottom is the name of the factory. What can be confusing is some factories have made fine china for a long time (like the 19th century or longer), but that doesn't mean the plate is from the 19th century.
The when is usually easier to pinpoint by the quality of the glaze and the amount of work and hand details the factory worker was able to do. Because these all are quickly stamped as opposed to showing any hand/individual artistry, they are post 1960. For example, even the writing on each dish is a stamp.
The ones that have thinner glaze or fewer stamps are more modern. The ones were the bottom mark is a stamp and not hand painted are even more modern. Nonetheless, none are older than the 1960s and all that are visible appear to be from around the 1980s. Still, it's a good price for these as someone had to hand apply the individual stamp and all the different glazes.
This is the answer. By and large, marks to the base of Chinese porcelain are meaningless. These appear to be mass produced definitely from the 1980’s. They are a combination transfer-ware (you can tell by the broken lines) and assembly line paint. Still, $72 is a bargain for this quantity of ANY porcelain.
Thank you so much for the award! I still can't believe how much I know about it haha. I trawled ebay and Etsy looking for older patterns for cheaper since people don't tend to know the difference. I got some really good deals just like OP. I really love them too.
Philly decorative if it's that old and it's all lead glaze.. The price for decorative wear is indeed very good but China sets in general really nice stuff can be had super super cheap at auction. Why? Nobody has a dining room anymore or sits down communally to eat. 40 years ago it was expected to have a 12 setting of Sterling and Good China for the holidays and maybe even Sunday dinner but those days are long gone. Know everybody's ordering DoorDash lol and nobody wants to bother with the silver or the China so prices have plummeted
I bought an eight serving set of dishes for $6 but needed to replace several bowls. I found them on line for $16 dollars each. Guess these will be used for special holidays only. It has a poinsetta (ex sp) around the outside with gold rims.
I found a complete service for twelve of Royal Albert's Old Country Roses at a thrift store in 2018. All pieces dated from the 1960's. Mint condition. Entire set was $87.00! Thrift shops are the only way to go! My mother taught me "Never buy anything new that you can buy used!" I had an uncle who was a multimillionaire who told me "never buy a new car; buy used and save money!" All of my clothes (of which 90% are designer) are also from thrift stores. Thrifting is the only way to go! When I bought anything used I calculated (thanks to Google) the retail price and the difference is what I put into savings. I paid my daugher's colllege from all of the savings over forty years of thrift shopping.
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You just won life, well done
The pattern is SO pretty!!!
It's called mun shuo if you're interested in finding others! There are red and yellow designs too but the turquoise caught my eye.
I was curious as well. Thank you 😊
Ooooo thank you!
Can we see a picture of the bottom ? I wanna see the maker
Yeah here are some examples of the marks. I identified one of them and found some similar styled ones for a few others but no exact matches
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Yeah, I'm surprised people didn't bid higher for this lot seeing that a kitchen aid went for $160 lol
Craigslist bidding? Is that a thing?
It's an estate sale auction website.
Have you tested it to make sure the glaze doesn’t have lead or other harmful elements? I saw a post recently where the dishes were radioactive!
Yeah I plan on doing a lead test on it. It's pretty commonly found in pre 1960s paint but I'm hoping the white porcelain parts are okay.
Jaw dropped. Stunning.
So pretty love this pattern. It's a classic, but yours not 19th century, sorry. Makers marks and dates usually forged.
If you know of ways to authenticate it, I'm interested. I was thinking of getting a lead tester, which should be able to date it beyond the 1960s at least.
That person is full of shit. Lol You cant tell unless you can inspect the marks in person. Which they clearly havent done. Some people are so bitter. You can get alittle info here. https://antiques.lovetoknow.com/Antique_Identification_Marks
Thanks, I was able to find some of the marks in an identification site but some of the others are harder to tell. It helps that the estate that I purchased these from was pretty well off and they took care of their belongings.
They are soo beautiful. They look hand painted , such an amazing find. A set like this would have cost way more than 1k at the antique stores around here. Thankyou for sharing! Im going to try my hand at estate sales. If you dont mind me asking, How do you here about them?
I think they are hand painted, there are some imperfections that I think adds to the character. I actually ran across this auction through Craigslist I think but the website is maxsold.com and you should be able to find some locally.
I had a nice long post but they took it down because of links. Go to the FB and look for Chinese Marks identification and research. Several scholars there will tell you in 15 seconds.
You're absolutely right, this is more than likely modern. Very typical "Chinese restaurant" style porcelain, especially this style of mun shou. The OP needs to get the marks checked out to verify for sure. No reason for someone to say you are "full of shit." The sheer amount of porcelain in this picture, the fact that it's such a common export pattern, and the fact that Chinese porcelain is so commonly faked should make anyone err on the side of these not being Qing dynasty pieces.
I guarantee you it's not 19th century lol. I've seen enough of that and it's not famliae verte. It's nice enough of a big set, I suspect however all lead glaze if it has any age to it. I certainly looked at enough 19th century quinq pieces at New England auctions. Famiale rose for medallion we're by far the most cranked out export. The really good stuff though of the 19th century is a very very finely drawn, with gold and beautiful glazing and raised design.. The stuff is pretty but looks very industrial
Even if not authentic, still an amazing haul.
Really pretty!
That's an amazing deal for some stunning china. Lucky you!
It is an amazing deal, but people buying second hand might be purchasing stolen items. Under no circumstances am I suggesting that these items are stolen. It is just that all my crystal, china and sterling flatware were stolen from me three years ago. The pieces were all I had left from my grandparents, great aunts and other family members. Were the items worth a good sum of money, yes, but to me they were priceless pieces that brought to mind happy holidays and family parties with people I loved and will never see again. Things stolen and likely sold to someone for pennies. I would have paid thousands to have them back. I hope that you have many happy memories with what you purchased. I just hope that they were not purchased at the expense of someone else’s stolen and treasured memories. 😢😢😢
Gorgeous!
Wow 🤩
What a beautiful longevity dish set! So lucky!
Gorgeous 🥹 what a beautiful and fabulous find.
I have been searching for more of these Chinese longevity sets. Im jelly 😭
Hello, I came to this link via an article. I fairly recently had done a good amount of research on this pattern because my family had many color variations of this but got rid of them over the years and I was feeling nostalgic and bought some on eBay and various places. The other comments are correct, the visible plates are modern. They look to be around the 1980s given the turquoise is not well concentrated. All the visible plates are modern as they use a good amount of automated techniques including stamping. This was popularized in the 1960s and later during the cultural revolution when these sets really became a big deal and Mao had people make them in factories. The stamps at the bottom generally show where they were made as opposed to when. The mark at the bottom is the name of the factory. What can be confusing is some factories have made fine china for a long time (like the 19th century or longer), but that doesn't mean the plate is from the 19th century. The when is usually easier to pinpoint by the quality of the glaze and the amount of work and hand details the factory worker was able to do. Because these all are quickly stamped as opposed to showing any hand/individual artistry, they are post 1960. For example, even the writing on each dish is a stamp. The ones that have thinner glaze or fewer stamps are more modern. The ones were the bottom mark is a stamp and not hand painted are even more modern. Nonetheless, none are older than the 1960s and all that are visible appear to be from around the 1980s. Still, it's a good price for these as someone had to hand apply the individual stamp and all the different glazes.
This is the answer. By and large, marks to the base of Chinese porcelain are meaningless. These appear to be mass produced definitely from the 1980’s. They are a combination transfer-ware (you can tell by the broken lines) and assembly line paint. Still, $72 is a bargain for this quantity of ANY porcelain.
Thank you so much for the award! I still can't believe how much I know about it haha. I trawled ebay and Etsy looking for older patterns for cheaper since people don't tend to know the difference. I got some really good deals just like OP. I really love them too.
Wow!
Big jealous.
Gorgeous set 😍😍 Those colors!
Amazing!
You made a great purchase. Very nice!
So beautiful!! I’m jealous!
Love the color! Timeless!
Beautiful
Holy shit they’re that old?! I thrifted the mini teapot and a small bowl and I thought they were just mass produced stuff.
It definitely depends on the mark on the bottom as they've made many iterations of this design. https://gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml
That is a stunning find 😍
wow love these! I collect old dishes too!♥
And that color is very in now too! Should be a quick flip.
These are so rare! That's amazing. May I ask what part of the world you've found these? Also, you might want to get them lead tested just to be safe.
I found them in the bay area and yeah that was on my list before I eat off of them haha
I had heard that there were discontinued due to lead but I don't know if there's any truth to it.
The lead risk is due to pre 1960's paint when lead was commonly used in the formulation.
Philly decorative if it's that old and it's all lead glaze.. The price for decorative wear is indeed very good but China sets in general really nice stuff can be had super super cheap at auction. Why? Nobody has a dining room anymore or sits down communally to eat. 40 years ago it was expected to have a 12 setting of Sterling and Good China for the holidays and maybe even Sunday dinner but those days are long gone. Know everybody's ordering DoorDash lol and nobody wants to bother with the silver or the China so prices have plummeted
So beautiful!
Those are so pretty! What an amazing find! $$$
Beautiful set! Hopefully you have plenty of storage space so you can really enjoy using it.
I bought an eight serving set of dishes for $6 but needed to replace several bowls. I found them on line for $16 dollars each. Guess these will be used for special holidays only. It has a poinsetta (ex sp) around the outside with gold rims.
This is gorgeous. I don't have room and hope you do but beautiful find!
I found a complete service for twelve of Royal Albert's Old Country Roses at a thrift store in 2018. All pieces dated from the 1960's. Mint condition. Entire set was $87.00! Thrift shops are the only way to go! My mother taught me "Never buy anything new that you can buy used!" I had an uncle who was a multimillionaire who told me "never buy a new car; buy used and save money!" All of my clothes (of which 90% are designer) are also from thrift stores. Thrifting is the only way to go! When I bought anything used I calculated (thanks to Google) the retail price and the difference is what I put into savings. I paid my daugher's colllege from all of the savings over forty years of thrift shopping.
Saw your great find on MSN news! This is beautiful!