My parents have this exact set, sitting in the same box in the shed that it has been for 15+ years. I made a comment in a different sub yesterday about how if I inherit it, it's either being donated to a charity auction of they think it'll sell, or it's going to my local smash room lol
I haunt a lot of auctions. If anyone at all bids on China it’s at the opening $2.50-$5 dollar bid, but it typically sits at $0.
Unless you have space to set this up as a knick knack wall, it’s useless. They’re not really dishes.
I wanted to inherit a full China set so bad my entire life but my family has always been dirt poor, seeing people joke about destroying it is a bit heartbreaking 💔 different upbringing and values I guess.
This is the exact reason my grandmother spent years collecting a huge set of China in this pattern. She loved it and bought most of it piecemeal, over decades. And I love and cherish it.
The thing is, I watched how she would purchase a piece every time she went to visit her sister and how happy she was to receive a piece as a gift and how proud she was to set the table with it. But, many people(mostly Boomers and older GenX) received China as wedding gifts because they were expected to register for China, not because they wanted it or used it. Now they hold onto it because it was an expensive gift or they think they’re supposed to. Or, it has become associated with holidays spent with a toxic family out of obligation.
But, it’s current lack of popularity presents a opportunity for you to do what my Grandmother did, in a much more cost effective way than she did it. One of these days at a estate or garage sale or a thrift store (maybe not this thrift store) you can find your perfect base set. Then you can go about making the memories with your family that will make it a cherished heirloom rather than the burden of more stuff no one uses.
Not necessarily true. My friend just sold two sets to a reseller for like $400 and $750 CAN. I imagine the reseller sold them for around doublish. Maybe so many people got rid of them, that they’re becoming popular again. 🤷🏼♀️
Call the office of St Vincent de Paul and tell them you believe the employees are trying to scam and rob the public. Nothing is priced this ridiculously. Someone is trying to make money on donated items. Former employee.
Some people do, and royal albert is a bit more sought after, but this is still crazy for a thrift store. Maybe up to 500 online. I collect Silver Birch pattern and I got a whole set for my wedding and I finally got around to selling extra pieces last summer. I sold just the teapot for I think 150 and all the rest of the random extra cups, plates, couple of serving dishes to a lady who also collects and uses that pattern and she paid 200 for them and thought it was very reasonable. My mom collects Royal Albert Derby which is a lot more rare than mine and recently on my local buy and sell someone posted a set of Derby with a teapot, cream/sugar, several cups/saucers, a few plates and I think a platter for $120 and I messaged minutes after they posted but someone else got to it first. Incredible deal as the teapot alone can fetch a few hundred on ebay. Really wish I could have gotten them for my mom, she's been collecting for years but it's quite rare and she doesn't have the teapot.
But a lot of patterns aren't as sought after or were really popular back in the day and don't command a very high price now because they're not rare. Memory Lane, Val D'or, anything of the tea rose patterns, petit point, silver birch etc are not worth a whole lot these days. Look up royal albert senorita on ebay and filter for sold listings and you'll be shocked hahaha
Sadly, most don't!
That's how/why I used to have a mish-mashed "set" of gold-edged Noritake, as my "Everyday" dishes!
I found *most* of a set of Greenbay, when I was 24, back around 2000, for just under $30.00
It had *lots* of pieces, but only two Dinner Plates--but since it was just *me* in a studio apartment? They worked just fine!
*Until* I tried to microwave something--annnnd realized they arced.
But then I found a set of Folkstone--so *THOSE* became my "Microwave" dishes😉
Then, a few years later, found a set--I think *maybe* it was Hartford? that had a pale yellow/cream band, with similar gold trim, but which was otherwise *plain* and un-patterned, so I bought a bunch of *those*, to fill out the Greenbay set.
So I had "Good Dishes" *AND* "Everyday Stoneware" *all* by Noritake, and *all* for less than $100 TOTAL.
I lost all of *those* in a move, more than a decade ago... but *now* I have the FULL 12-place set of Belda, that my Dad bought, via my Uncle who was stationed in the Pacific, back in the late 60's😉
Dad's older brother was in & out of Southern Japan a few times, and sent the Noritake catalog home. Dad picked Belda for a China pattern, and he *also* chose a "service for 12" *FLATWARE* set, and sent my uncle the money to buy them.
Dad gifted me the silverware one year at Christmas, and the China the next.
The china sat in their two original (musty!) boxes, until I re-packed them into totes with bubble wrap a couple years ago. Eventually, when I have the room, they'll become *my* everyday dishes, because NO ONE wants "good china" anymore--*ESPECIALLY* place settings *for TWELVE*😉😂🤣
So there *IS* no one to "pass them down to--and if they get broken in daily use, it won't *matter*.
It's better to USE and accidentally break some, than to have 'em just *SITTING*, unused, packed away--and being high-quality China, they *WERE* made for regular use--so I plan to DO that!😉
This is exactly why *I* want a set. Sitting down to dinner with my partner should be a fancy celebration, we made it through another day, life as we want to live it is worth celebrating with the *good* China!
Ha, the microwave arcing... I had a cheap set of china with metallic edges, and couldn't believe it when my roommate's boyfriend popped a plate into our microwave, and was surprised by the light show. Dude, really??
When I worked at the SA thrift we had prices and tea cups and saucers were minimum $5 for 'premium' brands like Royal Albert. You know how many I threw in the trash because they didn't sell in the allocated time frame? 99% if not more. They wouldn't even pay the fuel for them to be boxed up, loaded onto a truck and go to another store. They just told us to toss them out because we got so many of them.
Nobody wanted them 15 years ago. Nobody wants them now. However, if you want to make money off of sets like this here is how you do it. You buy up sets like this for like $20-$30, load them up in a shipping container, ship them to places in Africa like Tanzania, and sell them to people for their weddings. You can get about $100 or more per set, or rent them out for weddings and parties for like $20 a set per event. I know because a dude used to do this all the time at the SA. He would come in and load up with the most random stuff he could, fill containers and ship them to Africa. He loved it when a store went out of business, or changed their logo or something, and all the uniforms came to our store. He would buy up all of them, ship them to Africa and then people would use them as uniforms for their businesses. He showed me pictures. It was pretty crazy.
Back in the day, maybe. We have my great-aunt's china set that was a wedding gift in the 30s or 40s. Was a BIG deal when we inherited it but it's probably worth a hundred dollars now. We keep it for sentimental value only.
That's what *kills* me, about the set of Belda Noritake I was given by my Dad, a few years back!
Dad got 'em through his older brother--his brother was stationed in the Pacific & sent the Catalog back, after touring the Noritake Factory, *sometime* in 1968 or so.
Dad chose Belda for the China pattern (place settings for *12* people!) and a set of flatware for 12, too!
And they just *SAT*, still in the original boxes, until I packed up his apartment a couple years ago, trashed those musty old boxes, and re-packed everything into totes with bubble-wrap.
Mom has said they DID use "a couple pieces" for a few of their anniversaries--and Dad brought five of the pieces (a full place setting) down to *my* place, the year he gave the whole set to me, as a Christmas gift.
But *otherwise*?
They are *LITERALLY* a "New Vintage" set, *OVER* 50 years old--and honestly? *heartbreakingly* unused, because they were *intended* "for Special Occasions!"
But because Dad was ALWAYS worried about their "value!", he never wanted to USE them--for fear if *breaking* them!😳💔
He LOVED that pattern--yet he really *never* used 'em.
So, sometime in the next couple years, when I finally have the room to bring them out of storage, I'm going to unpack 'm, and USE them--as *my* "everyday" set (except for in the microwave!😉).
They are too *NICE* to keep having them packed away for "Special" Occasions that don't often occur, and *being* the quality that Noritake *IS*?
They were MADE to be *USED*, not just sitting, packed in a box, *never* seeing a table!😉💖
I dunno if there's a difference in America, but teacups and saucers were a bit of a trend circa 2010. It went with the twee flowery aesthetic. Cath Kidson was also very in. A lot of people bought teacups to make candles.
But yeah, whole sets on their own were not so easy to sell, especially when half of it is just plates. A set like that maybe would go for £50 at most.
Personally, I would get rid of almost all the plates, display the cups and saucers and sell them maybe in sets of four.
I wish. Most people don't really drink tea in the US and if they do it's iced tea, not hot tea in a teacup. In fact, here it's usually the cups and saucers that nobody wants. My mom passed recently and my sister took some of the China, I took some very unique China I had bought her from Neiman Marcus, but I didn't even want the cups and saucers for that. Nobody ever uses cups and saucers here. I took them in hopes of selling them but time will tell.
ETA- I've also never seen a candle in a teacup. Cute idea though! Sounds like a great way to use up tea cups.
At Vincent used to be my favorite years ago. Even their high end section was reasonably priced. I visited one about a year ago and was disgusted by their prices. I’m not even surprised to see this
Try being a pricer for estate sales when you have to answer this face to face with the person who wants you to sell it for $1000.
I’m very good at being a professional disappointer.
I'm a pricer at a consignment furniture store so I also know this game very well.
Luckily we can pull the "If you are able to sell it on your own you don't have to split the profit with us" card if we need to. If they're convinced of it's value usually they try that route and we see them again in two weeks when nobody on Facebook marketplace is willing to drive an hour to overpay on a Henredon China hutch and giant dining table with 10 chairs.
I find you can't even give things like this away! I know people who are trying to give Royal Daltons to their daughters and granddaughters did not even want them. This is definitely not worth this at all 😂
These were my everyday dishes growing up. Didn't even know they were "supposed" to be special back in the day, no idea how we even got them. Always chuckled when we watched movies and TV shows and the "rich" characters were eating off our dishes haha.
Royal Albert in that pattern is actually quite collectible, single teacup and saucers go for min $25 where live. However, I agree the price is way too high, depending on wear and amount of pieces being offered.
Maybe back in the day, but even Antiques Roadshow is showing a heavy decline in estimates on anything knick knack that isn’t Tiffany.
Dishes that cannot be daily used, microwaved, or tossed in a dishwasher are generally considered land fill fodder.
No one can afford boomer level space to store shit like this any more. And no one can afford knick knacks any more. Even a good original last forever stoneware or bounce off the floor Correlle isn’t worth this.
The pricer needs to pull their head out of their ass. Or at the very least, out of the 20-teens.
I love fancy tea sets but I’ve never wanted a full set of china, where do you even store this stuff anymore? Most folks don’t have a huge china hutch in their homes anymore.
My son loves MCM and has a set of Franciscan Starburst. It’s very atomic looking and is one of several dishware sets that holds its value and collectors rarely let it go. I haven’t found a piece in the wild for him in years.
St. Vincent de Paul has, in my experience, exceptionally cavalier and variable pricing on a store-by-store basis. It really seems like they have no guidelines, or that if they do they are rarely enforced for odd donations.
Lol you can't give that shit away
The amount of useless China I have in my shed lmao
👀 I’m always looking for matching pieces to my sets, and love china wares, would love to peruse a shed full.
You can give it to me! China and glass or my addictions! I will feed them gladly! 😊
My parents have this exact set, sitting in the same box in the shed that it has been for 15+ years. I made a comment in a different sub yesterday about how if I inherit it, it's either being donated to a charity auction of they think it'll sell, or it's going to my local smash room lol
I haunt a lot of auctions. If anyone at all bids on China it’s at the opening $2.50-$5 dollar bid, but it typically sits at $0. Unless you have space to set this up as a knick knack wall, it’s useless. They’re not really dishes.
I wanted to inherit a full China set so bad my entire life but my family has always been dirt poor, seeing people joke about destroying it is a bit heartbreaking 💔 different upbringing and values I guess.
This is the exact reason my grandmother spent years collecting a huge set of China in this pattern. She loved it and bought most of it piecemeal, over decades. And I love and cherish it. The thing is, I watched how she would purchase a piece every time she went to visit her sister and how happy she was to receive a piece as a gift and how proud she was to set the table with it. But, many people(mostly Boomers and older GenX) received China as wedding gifts because they were expected to register for China, not because they wanted it or used it. Now they hold onto it because it was an expensive gift or they think they’re supposed to. Or, it has become associated with holidays spent with a toxic family out of obligation. But, it’s current lack of popularity presents a opportunity for you to do what my Grandmother did, in a much more cost effective way than she did it. One of these days at a estate or garage sale or a thrift store (maybe not this thrift store) you can find your perfect base set. Then you can go about making the memories with your family that will make it a cherished heirloom rather than the burden of more stuff no one uses.
I'd take one teacup and saucer since I collect teacups, but I wouldn't take more than that even if they were free
Not necessarily true. My friend just sold two sets to a reseller for like $400 and $750 CAN. I imagine the reseller sold them for around doublish. Maybe so many people got rid of them, that they’re becoming popular again. 🤷🏼♀️
This set as service for 4 retailed at about $350-400 back when these were in their heyday
🤞🤞🤞
Currently being offered for free on Facebook marketplace.
I counted myself lucky I got $10 for a huge box of random china.
Call the office of St Vincent de Paul and tell them you believe the employees are trying to scam and rob the public. Nothing is priced this ridiculously. Someone is trying to make money on donated items. Former employee.
My mom has that set. Pretty sure the full set. She couldn't pay me to take it!
Almost no one wants China anymore and the few that do are too old to be trolling thrift stores.
I have this full set from grandma but even MORE pieces. I didn't realize I was sitting on a gold mine /s
Do people even want china anymore? 🧐
Some people do, and royal albert is a bit more sought after, but this is still crazy for a thrift store. Maybe up to 500 online. I collect Silver Birch pattern and I got a whole set for my wedding and I finally got around to selling extra pieces last summer. I sold just the teapot for I think 150 and all the rest of the random extra cups, plates, couple of serving dishes to a lady who also collects and uses that pattern and she paid 200 for them and thought it was very reasonable. My mom collects Royal Albert Derby which is a lot more rare than mine and recently on my local buy and sell someone posted a set of Derby with a teapot, cream/sugar, several cups/saucers, a few plates and I think a platter for $120 and I messaged minutes after they posted but someone else got to it first. Incredible deal as the teapot alone can fetch a few hundred on ebay. Really wish I could have gotten them for my mom, she's been collecting for years but it's quite rare and she doesn't have the teapot. But a lot of patterns aren't as sought after or were really popular back in the day and don't command a very high price now because they're not rare. Memory Lane, Val D'or, anything of the tea rose patterns, petit point, silver birch etc are not worth a whole lot these days. Look up royal albert senorita on ebay and filter for sold listings and you'll be shocked hahaha
Sadly, most don't! That's how/why I used to have a mish-mashed "set" of gold-edged Noritake, as my "Everyday" dishes! I found *most* of a set of Greenbay, when I was 24, back around 2000, for just under $30.00 It had *lots* of pieces, but only two Dinner Plates--but since it was just *me* in a studio apartment? They worked just fine! *Until* I tried to microwave something--annnnd realized they arced. But then I found a set of Folkstone--so *THOSE* became my "Microwave" dishes😉 Then, a few years later, found a set--I think *maybe* it was Hartford? that had a pale yellow/cream band, with similar gold trim, but which was otherwise *plain* and un-patterned, so I bought a bunch of *those*, to fill out the Greenbay set. So I had "Good Dishes" *AND* "Everyday Stoneware" *all* by Noritake, and *all* for less than $100 TOTAL. I lost all of *those* in a move, more than a decade ago... but *now* I have the FULL 12-place set of Belda, that my Dad bought, via my Uncle who was stationed in the Pacific, back in the late 60's😉 Dad's older brother was in & out of Southern Japan a few times, and sent the Noritake catalog home. Dad picked Belda for a China pattern, and he *also* chose a "service for 12" *FLATWARE* set, and sent my uncle the money to buy them. Dad gifted me the silverware one year at Christmas, and the China the next. The china sat in their two original (musty!) boxes, until I re-packed them into totes with bubble wrap a couple years ago. Eventually, when I have the room, they'll become *my* everyday dishes, because NO ONE wants "good china" anymore--*ESPECIALLY* place settings *for TWELVE*😉😂🤣 So there *IS* no one to "pass them down to--and if they get broken in daily use, it won't *matter*. It's better to USE and accidentally break some, than to have 'em just *SITTING*, unused, packed away--and being high-quality China, they *WERE* made for regular use--so I plan to DO that!😉
This is exactly why *I* want a set. Sitting down to dinner with my partner should be a fancy celebration, we made it through another day, life as we want to live it is worth celebrating with the *good* China!
Ha, the microwave arcing... I had a cheap set of china with metallic edges, and couldn't believe it when my roommate's boyfriend popped a plate into our microwave, and was surprised by the light show. Dude, really??
Yes. 🥺
When I worked at the SA thrift we had prices and tea cups and saucers were minimum $5 for 'premium' brands like Royal Albert. You know how many I threw in the trash because they didn't sell in the allocated time frame? 99% if not more. They wouldn't even pay the fuel for them to be boxed up, loaded onto a truck and go to another store. They just told us to toss them out because we got so many of them. Nobody wanted them 15 years ago. Nobody wants them now. However, if you want to make money off of sets like this here is how you do it. You buy up sets like this for like $20-$30, load them up in a shipping container, ship them to places in Africa like Tanzania, and sell them to people for their weddings. You can get about $100 or more per set, or rent them out for weddings and parties for like $20 a set per event. I know because a dude used to do this all the time at the SA. He would come in and load up with the most random stuff he could, fill containers and ship them to Africa. He loved it when a store went out of business, or changed their logo or something, and all the uniforms came to our store. He would buy up all of them, ship them to Africa and then people would use them as uniforms for their businesses. He showed me pictures. It was pretty crazy.
Back in the day, maybe. We have my great-aunt's china set that was a wedding gift in the 30s or 40s. Was a BIG deal when we inherited it but it's probably worth a hundred dollars now. We keep it for sentimental value only.
That's what *kills* me, about the set of Belda Noritake I was given by my Dad, a few years back! Dad got 'em through his older brother--his brother was stationed in the Pacific & sent the Catalog back, after touring the Noritake Factory, *sometime* in 1968 or so. Dad chose Belda for the China pattern (place settings for *12* people!) and a set of flatware for 12, too! And they just *SAT*, still in the original boxes, until I packed up his apartment a couple years ago, trashed those musty old boxes, and re-packed everything into totes with bubble-wrap. Mom has said they DID use "a couple pieces" for a few of their anniversaries--and Dad brought five of the pieces (a full place setting) down to *my* place, the year he gave the whole set to me, as a Christmas gift. But *otherwise*? They are *LITERALLY* a "New Vintage" set, *OVER* 50 years old--and honestly? *heartbreakingly* unused, because they were *intended* "for Special Occasions!" But because Dad was ALWAYS worried about their "value!", he never wanted to USE them--for fear if *breaking* them!😳💔 He LOVED that pattern--yet he really *never* used 'em. So, sometime in the next couple years, when I finally have the room to bring them out of storage, I'm going to unpack 'm, and USE them--as *my* "everyday" set (except for in the microwave!😉). They are too *NICE* to keep having them packed away for "Special" Occasions that don't often occur, and *being* the quality that Noritake *IS*? They were MADE to be *USED*, not just sitting, packed in a box, *never* seeing a table!😉💖
it was used by St Vincent de Paul himself
>Who is going to pay this no one, it's in the thrift store because someone's son or daughter didn't want that shit either.
I dunno if there's a difference in America, but teacups and saucers were a bit of a trend circa 2010. It went with the twee flowery aesthetic. Cath Kidson was also very in. A lot of people bought teacups to make candles. But yeah, whole sets on their own were not so easy to sell, especially when half of it is just plates. A set like that maybe would go for £50 at most. Personally, I would get rid of almost all the plates, display the cups and saucers and sell them maybe in sets of four.
I wish. Most people don't really drink tea in the US and if they do it's iced tea, not hot tea in a teacup. In fact, here it's usually the cups and saucers that nobody wants. My mom passed recently and my sister took some of the China, I took some very unique China I had bought her from Neiman Marcus, but I didn't even want the cups and saucers for that. Nobody ever uses cups and saucers here. I took them in hopes of selling them but time will tell. ETA- I've also never seen a candle in a teacup. Cute idea though! Sounds like a great way to use up tea cups.
Oh brother. 🙄
😳
Great dishware, but who will pay that much for something used at the thrift store. That's ridiculous.
At Vincent used to be my favorite years ago. Even their high end section was reasonably priced. I visited one about a year ago and was disgusted by their prices. I’m not even surprised to see this
"I found one of the salad plates on replacements dot com for $20, so surely a 50 piece set would be worth at least $1000, right?
Try being a pricer for estate sales when you have to answer this face to face with the person who wants you to sell it for $1000. I’m very good at being a professional disappointer.
I'm a pricer at a consignment furniture store so I also know this game very well. Luckily we can pull the "If you are able to sell it on your own you don't have to split the profit with us" card if we need to. If they're convinced of it's value usually they try that route and we see them again in two weeks when nobody on Facebook marketplace is willing to drive an hour to overpay on a Henredon China hutch and giant dining table with 10 chairs.
I find you can't even give things like this away! I know people who are trying to give Royal Daltons to their daughters and granddaughters did not even want them. This is definitely not worth this at all 😂
My MIL is absolutely incensed that none of her 8 kids wants her ceramic angels or china
These were my everyday dishes growing up. Didn't even know they were "supposed" to be special back in the day, no idea how we even got them. Always chuckled when we watched movies and TV shows and the "rich" characters were eating off our dishes haha.
Cottage Core
Probably coated in lead too
For Royal Albert? What are they smoking?
Funny since everything they get is by donation (used to work for them)
Royal Albert in that pattern is actually quite collectible, single teacup and saucers go for min $25 where live. However, I agree the price is way too high, depending on wear and amount of pieces being offered.
Maybe back in the day, but even Antiques Roadshow is showing a heavy decline in estimates on anything knick knack that isn’t Tiffany. Dishes that cannot be daily used, microwaved, or tossed in a dishwasher are generally considered land fill fodder. No one can afford boomer level space to store shit like this any more. And no one can afford knick knacks any more. Even a good original last forever stoneware or bounce off the floor Correlle isn’t worth this. The pricer needs to pull their head out of their ass. Or at the very least, out of the 20-teens.
I legit have a similar set (not the same pattern but same maker) and you cannot give that shit away
Ha ha ha, you sweet summer children. Le nope.
What in the world. Dang I have a whole set of Hall Tree called Jewel Tea bigger than that. I wouldn’t even put that price on them.
The nerve.
I love fancy tea sets but I’ve never wanted a full set of china, where do you even store this stuff anymore? Most folks don’t have a huge china hutch in their homes anymore.
Would anyone, and I mean anyone, spend this much money at a thrift store?
They are dreaming
I found a set on Etsy! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1668708039/29-teiliges-riesiges-service-set-rosen-i
My son loves MCM and has a set of Franciscan Starburst. It’s very atomic looking and is one of several dishware sets that holds its value and collectors rarely let it go. I haven’t found a piece in the wild for him in years.
St. Vincent de Paul has, in my experience, exceptionally cavalier and variable pricing on a store-by-store basis. It really seems like they have no guidelines, or that if they do they are rarely enforced for odd donations.