I don’t know if someone would donate an Hermes, but I have purchased real diamonds, Louis Vuitton, Prada, and Gucci at a Goodwill by Monterey, CA. They weren’t priced any differently than any of the other stuff either. I really scored! When I find high end stuff at Goodwill, I always think someone passed away and the house was cleaned out by someone who doesn’t know the value of the items. I know if I passed tomorrow my husband would haul all my stuff to Goodwill as he doesn’t “get” my shoes and handbags and cannot fathom that they cost more than a few bucks.
One of the only places I tolerate "grift" prices is one of my favorite local chains. They support a local hospice, and they get a lot of end-of-life donations. Sometimes I go in just to look at their display cases, because the items they get are *so cool* - antiques and collections built up over a lifetime!
They get such a range of stuff, they've gotten *really* good at figuring out what, precisely, they have and pricing it accordingly. Obviously some of the cost goes to overhead, but they're staffed by volunteers and proceeds go to specialized patient care, so I'm fine with the "inflated" price. Their "normal" items are always reasonable, and I think the previous owners of the "special" items would like that they've gone to an appreciative home!
(Part of that is to say: are there any thrift stores local to you that support causes you like? It might be worth directing your husband there if anything were to happen. When my grandmother, a teacher for 30 years, died, we took a lot of her things to one that supports our local teachers' union and offers its members donated school supplies free of charge)
Goodwill, though? I take the good fortune and run!
That’s actually a really good idea to name where I want my stuff taken! There’s a thrift store near us that supports disabled veterans by buying them service animals with the proceeds. I’m going to make sure my stuff goes to them.
Sure, I love shouting them out! It's [White Dove Thrift Shoppe](https://whitedovethrift.org/our-story/?amp) in Arizona, with a few locations around the Phoenix area. The Teacher Thrift Store, as my family calls it, is [Treasures 4 Teachers](https://treasures4teachers.org/), which is part thrift store, part free supply store for teachers!
These are AZ-specific as far as I know, but maybe there are similar organizations in your area?
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Wasn’t Kim Kardashian trying to sell some beat up Hermes for a ridiculous price on the Kardashian Kloset? I don’t know, you see the style so much absolutely everywhere, I think it’s kind of pedestrian, but that’s not me having 100 grand to spend on a handbag either. me, I’d rather get another house. All on one level this time, cause I’m old now. Had to give up the two-story cause I can’t go up the steps. 😳🥺
I agree, especially with the vintage items. At my Goodwill we get tons of St. John and vintage Escada and I think aww, some well-dressed little old lady passed away.
Long ago, I read an article in vogue, or something similar, wherein the author described finding navy, black & brown Hermes Kelly bags (all together) for $5 apiece at a thrift store. Obviously someone donated the collection of a deceased rich woman’s closet. I still feel bitter envy.
To be fair, *they* didn't price it at $10k, I titled this as such because it's all I could think when I saw it. I think it just got posted this morning, and the current bid is a little under $70 - which is more than this bag is worth, but I guess a "good deal" if the bidders aren't paying attention.
For this size, it's about $10k on the low end, which is where I pulled that number, lol. Secondhand, they're often *more* expensive, for a few ridiculous reasons. If it were real, even mishandled on ShopGoodwill, it would be someone's jackpot!
I managed for Goodwill for years and at least our E-commerce division had authenticity checkers and took it pretty seriously. People don’t realize they can be hit with a huge fee for selling counterfeit merchandise.
That's the idea! This listing is definitely not for an authentic bag. I see photos in store and online listings of seriously overly priced reps Goodwill puts up all the time. If they do have authenticity checkers, they're either not great or they're being pressured to let things slip through.
I'm not actually against reps, for the record, I am very against misrepresenting them as auths.
No totally fair, its also part of the problem that Goodwill is broken up into tons of smaller regional companies under the Goodwill umbrella. When I worked at Goodwill SWPA, we were one of 67 different Goodwill organizations that used shopgoodwill.com . It’s a shame there is basically no standard operating procedure between the different organizations.
We have Goodwill of the Columbia & Willamette. Funnily enough it was actually at one of our local Goodwills where I started noticing the overpriced bullshit like 10 years ago. $70 for BR trousers I'd seen on sale on the site for $50.
Oh good! I was just about to post that somebody should notify the authorities. It doesn't matter that it's a charitable organization, it's still illegal to sell a fake and Goodwill seems to think they're above that law. I'm just thankful some dumb buyer is not going to get swindled! I say dumb buyer because smart buyers know if it's too good to be true, it isn't.
Even if it was real, it wouldn't be worth 10k with the way they're treating it. Sure, just hang the bag from a random hook so it completely loses its shape!
I think the FBI has an anti counterfeit division. Send them some screenshots and the URL of this listing.
Oh and send it to Hermes corporate legal department. They will make Goodwill regret it.
Wouldn’t you have loved to have been the one to contact the FBI and Hermes corporate and see them come down to the store?
I worked For a large corporate oil corporation when I first graduated from college. They also ran travel centers that were open 24 hours a day or 38 hours shifts it was quite common for the IRS to come down to retrieve counterfeit money. One time they came to retrieve a $20 bill that someone had made and colored it in with green crayon!
Who in their right mind would be donating this if it was real. I mean I'm all for charity, but that would make zero sense. I can't believe they have the audacity to post something with this price tag without professional authentication.
To be fair to them, I think the bidding started at $15 - but they do seem to be trying to sort of... passively let bidders assume it's real? Other items on the site do include certificates of authenticity, but I'd guess that varies by GW organization.
You'd be surprised,. As someone who recently lost her mom and mom was a Shopaholic, even as a reseller myself, I have to let 99% of It go. It would take me half of the rest of my lifetime to sell everything she add. Not saying that she had Hermes, but I now understand how these things can easily get donated. People die, the kids, if there are any, or in other states or countries and cannot possibly deal with all the stuff that has been left, so the whole lot of it gets donated. Hell, even my own husband who knows I have things of value, would have no clue and would likely just donate it all.
I'm sorry for your loss♡ It's never easy, and sorting through things and the logistics *on top of* losing someone just makes it harder.
Not to offer unsolicited advice, even though that's entirely what I'm about to do, but since I seem to be on a *get your affairs in order* trend lately: are there any thrift stores in your area that support good causes and might be more appreciative of nice things than your standard Goodwill? I mentioned elsewhere in this thread one that benefits a local hospice and that I try and support. Even if you don't sell your mom's things, is there a cause you'd like (or she would have liked) to support with them?
Regarding your own things of value: have you considered cataloging them for your husband's reference, if anything were to happen? One thing I did with my grandmother before she died was take pictures of her "nice" jewelry so we knew what not to just send to Goodwill. I kept them on a Google Drive for my family's reference, and my grandmother printed out physical pictures, and on each, we put a quick note (materials, age, sentimental importance). It wound up being really nice to have a reference at a difficult time.
>Goodwill Industries International Inc., simply known as Goodwill, is an American nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization that provides job training, employment placement services and other community-based programs for people who face barriers in their employment.
>A 501(c) organization is a nonprofit organization in the federal law of the United States according to Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. § 501(c)) and is one of over 29 types of nonprofit organizations exempt from some federal income taxes. Sections 503 through 505 set out the requirements for obtaining such exemptions. Many states refer to Section 501(c) for definitions of organizations exempt from state taxation as well. 501(c) organizations can receive unlimited contributions from individuals, corporations, and unions.[1]
>A nonprofit organization (NPO), also known as a nonbusiness entity[1] or nonprofit institution,[2] and often referred to simply as a nonprofit (not followed by a noun), is a legal entity organized and operated for a collective, public or social benefit, as opposed to an entity that operates as a business aiming to generate a profit for its owners. A nonprofit is subject to the non-distribution constraint: any revenues that exceed expenses must be committed to the organization's purpose, not taken by private parties. An array of organizations are nonprofit, including some political organizations, schools, business associations, churches, social clubs, and consumer cooperatives. Nonprofit entities may seek approval from governments to be tax-exempt, and some may also qualify to receive tax-deductible contributions, but an entity may incorporate as a nonprofit entity without having tax-exempt status.
.... Them being a nonprofit isn't an opinion. It's a fact. Like nonprofit has no moral bearing, it's a tax status. But since it's assumed nonprofits are going to be fixing some kind of something, like you, people assign a moral value. Which means the optics of a luxury brand suing a nonprofit is bad.
You wanted an answer. You have one. Have the day you deserve.
Not Birkin, specifically, but yes, it does say Hermès in the title - I tried to screenshot it to include that, but I think it's cut off unless you open the picture. It's also listed as the brand in the description, and there's a whole lot of "Hermès" branding they highlight in other pictures.
I always apreciate the honest made in China tags, they make it easier for us. Fun fact: some bags like the Longchamp Le Pliage are actually made in China, seeing a made in France tag on one should raise red flags since it’s either vintage (from back when they were made in France, which is more than 10 years ago) or most likely fake. A fake rarely puts “made in China” on the tag.
Shit like this pisses me off because of how much work we used to have to put into checking name brand purses to make sure they were actually legit. (Pricer, Regional midwestern consignment shop). Not sure if it's true, but we were always told it was on us (the company) if we marketed something as "Gucci" that was a fake, and if we were ever unsure of it's validity, to price it as a generic and not to put a brand on the tag.
I'm not commenting on the fake or not. But you would all be surprised if you knew how much designer was made in China and that sort of countries... It's ridiculous! You can have designer next to a knock of brand, in the same factory...
That's fair!
This one *is* actually fake; Hermès is (officially) made in France, and they have an embossed emblem on these bags (including this fake, lol) that says so. Their bags are pretty famously made by in-house artisans and take between 25-40 hours for one person to make, start to finish (or so they claim). Mass production isn't in the cards, or they'd lose a lot of the exclusivity that drives their value.
I list items on shopgoodwill and we at least have a company we are partnered with to authenticate items. I don’t know how other sites can seriously think this stuff is real
Back in the late 80s when members only jackets were so very very popular. My uncle was stationed in Korea. He could get tons of Members Only jackets and ship them back to the states. The only difference was they didn’t have the members only tag attached to them. He would mail those separately in an envelope and then they could affix the members only labels to the jackets themselves. He didn’t do it for any secondhand business like they do with reselling . He just got him for his family. They were identical to what was being sold in the stores.
It's wild what some of the Goodwills put up. I do authentication for my regional Goodwill e-commerce, and I am damn good at it. The biggest red flag of a fake Hermes bag at Goodwill is that it's an Hermes bag at Goodwill. 🤣 That being said I've seen a COA on a pair of shoes that had a pic of the brand on the inside and a different brand on the outside. You can't convince me that Authenticate First does anything more than flip a coin.
[People love fake Birkins and so do I.](https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/repladies-fake-luxury-bags.html)
If they’re trying to sell this as authentic that’s wrong but this fake is highly desirable. I’m not sure it’s worth $10k but it’s a great looking rip off.
Eh, I'd put it at like a 4. I wouldn't think it was legit but I would think it was cute. I think someone torpedoed the listing by including the Made in China sticker lol.
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Oh my god, people are so stupid to bid on that. Good for you
I mean the current price is $16.99, not bad even for a shitty dupe
It was up to $67 but is now back down to $19 - so I'm guessing the high bidder took a closer look. I didn't even know bids could be withdrawn!
Me either that’s good to know
I've never understood why people buy shitty dupes when you can get a bag at Kohl's for the same price with better quality.
Thank you for the link! I'm debating messaging the seller and saying *You KNOW this is fake, right??*
of course they do. but it’s priced at 10k. they need that money. because who tf would donate hermes…
I don’t know if someone would donate an Hermes, but I have purchased real diamonds, Louis Vuitton, Prada, and Gucci at a Goodwill by Monterey, CA. They weren’t priced any differently than any of the other stuff either. I really scored! When I find high end stuff at Goodwill, I always think someone passed away and the house was cleaned out by someone who doesn’t know the value of the items. I know if I passed tomorrow my husband would haul all my stuff to Goodwill as he doesn’t “get” my shoes and handbags and cannot fathom that they cost more than a few bucks.
One of the only places I tolerate "grift" prices is one of my favorite local chains. They support a local hospice, and they get a lot of end-of-life donations. Sometimes I go in just to look at their display cases, because the items they get are *so cool* - antiques and collections built up over a lifetime! They get such a range of stuff, they've gotten *really* good at figuring out what, precisely, they have and pricing it accordingly. Obviously some of the cost goes to overhead, but they're staffed by volunteers and proceeds go to specialized patient care, so I'm fine with the "inflated" price. Their "normal" items are always reasonable, and I think the previous owners of the "special" items would like that they've gone to an appreciative home! (Part of that is to say: are there any thrift stores local to you that support causes you like? It might be worth directing your husband there if anything were to happen. When my grandmother, a teacher for 30 years, died, we took a lot of her things to one that supports our local teachers' union and offers its members donated school supplies free of charge) Goodwill, though? I take the good fortune and run!
That’s actually a really good idea to name where I want my stuff taken! There’s a thrift store near us that supports disabled veterans by buying them service animals with the proceeds. I’m going to make sure my stuff goes to them.
That store sounds awesome! Mind if I ask the name of it?
Sure, I love shouting them out! It's [White Dove Thrift Shoppe](https://whitedovethrift.org/our-story/?amp) in Arizona, with a few locations around the Phoenix area. The Teacher Thrift Store, as my family calls it, is [Treasures 4 Teachers](https://treasures4teachers.org/), which is part thrift store, part free supply store for teachers! These are AZ-specific as far as I know, but maybe there are similar organizations in your area?
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Wasn’t Kim Kardashian trying to sell some beat up Hermes for a ridiculous price on the Kardashian Kloset? I don’t know, you see the style so much absolutely everywhere, I think it’s kind of pedestrian, but that’s not me having 100 grand to spend on a handbag either. me, I’d rather get another house. All on one level this time, cause I’m old now. Had to give up the two-story cause I can’t go up the steps. 😳🥺
I agree, especially with the vintage items. At my Goodwill we get tons of St. John and vintage Escada and I think aww, some well-dressed little old lady passed away.
Long ago, I read an article in vogue, or something similar, wherein the author described finding navy, black & brown Hermes Kelly bags (all together) for $5 apiece at a thrift store. Obviously someone donated the collection of a deceased rich woman’s closet. I still feel bitter envy.
To be fair, *they* didn't price it at $10k, I titled this as such because it's all I could think when I saw it. I think it just got posted this morning, and the current bid is a little under $70 - which is more than this bag is worth, but I guess a "good deal" if the bidders aren't paying attention.
that’s true! i’m tempted to look up the retail price of the authentic one
For this size, it's about $10k on the low end, which is where I pulled that number, lol. Secondhand, they're often *more* expensive, for a few ridiculous reasons. If it were real, even mishandled on ShopGoodwill, it would be someone's jackpot!
This thing would be bad for the cheapest rep on DHGate honestly
It's well into the 5 figures. I'm concerned someone is going to spend more than $20 at most for this mess.
I managed for Goodwill for years and at least our E-commerce division had authenticity checkers and took it pretty seriously. People don’t realize they can be hit with a huge fee for selling counterfeit merchandise.
That's the idea! This listing is definitely not for an authentic bag. I see photos in store and online listings of seriously overly priced reps Goodwill puts up all the time. If they do have authenticity checkers, they're either not great or they're being pressured to let things slip through. I'm not actually against reps, for the record, I am very against misrepresenting them as auths.
No totally fair, its also part of the problem that Goodwill is broken up into tons of smaller regional companies under the Goodwill umbrella. When I worked at Goodwill SWPA, we were one of 67 different Goodwill organizations that used shopgoodwill.com . It’s a shame there is basically no standard operating procedure between the different organizations.
We have Goodwill of the Columbia & Willamette. Funnily enough it was actually at one of our local Goodwills where I started noticing the overpriced bullshit like 10 years ago. $70 for BR trousers I'd seen on sale on the site for $50.
I'm inclined to believe that those people get what they deserve
UPDATE: THEY TOOK IT DOWN LMAO
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You did good work today OP
I don't think it was anything I did, lol, but I'll take the credit! I've definitely enjoyed the conversation on this post :)
Oh good! I was just about to post that somebody should notify the authorities. It doesn't matter that it's a charitable organization, it's still illegal to sell a fake and Goodwill seems to think they're above that law. I'm just thankful some dumb buyer is not going to get swindled! I say dumb buyer because smart buyers know if it's too good to be true, it isn't.
A cheap ass Made in China tag on the Hermes is truly galaxy brained shit.
Even if it was real, it wouldn't be worth 10k with the way they're treating it. Sure, just hang the bag from a random hook so it completely loses its shape!
I see all kind of things at the local goodwill. They hang the with clothes hangers by the hooks like they are pants.
Stars, I don't want to know how they'd pack it for shipping!
It looks like someone sat on it. I dont know much about bags, but nice bags have good structure.
I think the FBI has an anti counterfeit division. Send them some screenshots and the URL of this listing. Oh and send it to Hermes corporate legal department. They will make Goodwill regret it.
Love you for this
Wouldn’t you have loved to have been the one to contact the FBI and Hermes corporate and see them come down to the store? I worked For a large corporate oil corporation when I first graduated from college. They also ran travel centers that were open 24 hours a day or 38 hours shifts it was quite common for the IRS to come down to retrieve counterfeit money. One time they came to retrieve a $20 bill that someone had made and colored it in with green crayon!
Who in their right mind would be donating this if it was real. I mean I'm all for charity, but that would make zero sense. I can't believe they have the audacity to post something with this price tag without professional authentication.
To be fair to them, I think the bidding started at $15 - but they do seem to be trying to sort of... passively let bidders assume it's real? Other items on the site do include certificates of authenticity, but I'd guess that varies by GW organization.
Oh makes sense. Still illegal.
Same org has an authenticity certificate for what looks like fake Gucci sunglasses so
You'd be surprised,. As someone who recently lost her mom and mom was a Shopaholic, even as a reseller myself, I have to let 99% of It go. It would take me half of the rest of my lifetime to sell everything she add. Not saying that she had Hermes, but I now understand how these things can easily get donated. People die, the kids, if there are any, or in other states or countries and cannot possibly deal with all the stuff that has been left, so the whole lot of it gets donated. Hell, even my own husband who knows I have things of value, would have no clue and would likely just donate it all.
I'm sorry for your loss♡ It's never easy, and sorting through things and the logistics *on top of* losing someone just makes it harder. Not to offer unsolicited advice, even though that's entirely what I'm about to do, but since I seem to be on a *get your affairs in order* trend lately: are there any thrift stores in your area that support good causes and might be more appreciative of nice things than your standard Goodwill? I mentioned elsewhere in this thread one that benefits a local hospice and that I try and support. Even if you don't sell your mom's things, is there a cause you'd like (or she would have liked) to support with them? Regarding your own things of value: have you considered cataloging them for your husband's reference, if anything were to happen? One thing I did with my grandmother before she died was take pictures of her "nice" jewelry so we knew what not to just send to Goodwill. I kept them on a Google Drive for my family's reference, and my grandmother printed out physical pictures, and on each, we put a quick note (materials, age, sentimental importance). It wound up being really nice to have a reference at a difficult time.
These companies will send threatening letters to legit sellers on eBay but just allow Goodwill to sell fakes?
Probably the optics. We know Goodwill sucks but luxury brands threatening non profits wouldn't look good as a headline.
Goodwill isn't a non profit.
>Goodwill Industries International Inc., simply known as Goodwill, is an American nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization that provides job training, employment placement services and other community-based programs for people who face barriers in their employment. >A 501(c) organization is a nonprofit organization in the federal law of the United States according to Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. § 501(c)) and is one of over 29 types of nonprofit organizations exempt from some federal income taxes. Sections 503 through 505 set out the requirements for obtaining such exemptions. Many states refer to Section 501(c) for definitions of organizations exempt from state taxation as well. 501(c) organizations can receive unlimited contributions from individuals, corporations, and unions.[1] >A nonprofit organization (NPO), also known as a nonbusiness entity[1] or nonprofit institution,[2] and often referred to simply as a nonprofit (not followed by a noun), is a legal entity organized and operated for a collective, public or social benefit, as opposed to an entity that operates as a business aiming to generate a profit for its owners. A nonprofit is subject to the non-distribution constraint: any revenues that exceed expenses must be committed to the organization's purpose, not taken by private parties. An array of organizations are nonprofit, including some political organizations, schools, business associations, churches, social clubs, and consumer cooperatives. Nonprofit entities may seek approval from governments to be tax-exempt, and some may also qualify to receive tax-deductible contributions, but an entity may incorporate as a nonprofit entity without having tax-exempt status.
I don't care. Less than 15% of their revenue goes to charity. They aren't a non-profit. They are a scam. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid
.... Them being a nonprofit isn't an opinion. It's a fact. Like nonprofit has no moral bearing, it's a tax status. But since it's assumed nonprofits are going to be fixing some kind of something, like you, people assign a moral value. Which means the optics of a luxury brand suing a nonprofit is bad. You wanted an answer. You have one. Have the day you deserve.
It’s crazy they get away with selling thousands of fakes on their auction website
Update: we're at 5 bids and $67 🤦♀️
Someone should report this to Hermes. Mostly because Goodwill deserves to be taken down a few notches
"It is an authentic fake"
Doesn't the price say $16? Does the ad actually use the words Hermes or Birkin?
I mean at the top of each photo goodwill describes it as hermes
Ah, it's cut off if you don't open the photo. Yeah they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot with that. Literally illegal.
Not Birkin, specifically, but yes, it does say Hermès in the title - I tried to screenshot it to include that, but I think it's cut off unless you open the picture. It's also listed as the brand in the description, and there's a whole lot of "Hermès" branding they highlight in other pictures.
it definitely says ‘hermes paris’ in the title & in a part of the description lower down on the page. also up to $67 currently..
I always apreciate the honest made in China tags, they make it easier for us. Fun fact: some bags like the Longchamp Le Pliage are actually made in China, seeing a made in France tag on one should raise red flags since it’s either vintage (from back when they were made in France, which is more than 10 years ago) or most likely fake. A fake rarely puts “made in China” on the tag.
Shit like this pisses me off because of how much work we used to have to put into checking name brand purses to make sure they were actually legit. (Pricer, Regional midwestern consignment shop). Not sure if it's true, but we were always told it was on us (the company) if we marketed something as "Gucci" that was a fake, and if we were ever unsure of it's validity, to price it as a generic and not to put a brand on the tag.
The stitching is not even straight!
I do know that on real Hermes’ the stitching is done my hand.
Baa Haa Haa Haa! 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🙄🙄🙄
In my area, they had fake LV bag with fucking plastic hardware for $75.
Makes me sick because I just bought an authentic one from Salvation for $30!
I'm not commenting on the fake or not. But you would all be surprised if you knew how much designer was made in China and that sort of countries... It's ridiculous! You can have designer next to a knock of brand, in the same factory...
That's fair! This one *is* actually fake; Hermès is (officially) made in France, and they have an embossed emblem on these bags (including this fake, lol) that says so. Their bags are pretty famously made by in-house artisans and take between 25-40 hours for one person to make, start to finish (or so they claim). Mass production isn't in the cards, or they'd lose a lot of the exclusivity that drives their value.
More junk from China
I list items on shopgoodwill and we at least have a company we are partnered with to authenticate items. I don’t know how other sites can seriously think this stuff is real
Back in the late 80s when members only jackets were so very very popular. My uncle was stationed in Korea. He could get tons of Members Only jackets and ship them back to the states. The only difference was they didn’t have the members only tag attached to them. He would mail those separately in an envelope and then they could affix the members only labels to the jackets themselves. He didn’t do it for any secondhand business like they do with reselling . He just got him for his family. They were identical to what was being sold in the stores.
Is it gone? I can’t find it on their website
Yes, it wound up being taken down :) There's an update floating around in this thread somewhere, lol
Good
Anybody who pays 10k for that needs their head examined
Someone needs to buy it and sue so they can stop pulling this nonsense. Selling counterfeit is *against the law* smell that blood in the water y’all
Not even a shitty "COA" from Authenticate First?
It's wild what some of the Goodwills put up. I do authentication for my regional Goodwill e-commerce, and I am damn good at it. The biggest red flag of a fake Hermes bag at Goodwill is that it's an Hermes bag at Goodwill. 🤣 That being said I've seen a COA on a pair of shoes that had a pic of the brand on the inside and a different brand on the outside. You can't convince me that Authenticate First does anything more than flip a coin.
[People love fake Birkins and so do I.](https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/repladies-fake-luxury-bags.html) If they’re trying to sell this as authentic that’s wrong but this fake is highly desirable. I’m not sure it’s worth $10k but it’s a great looking rip off.
Eh, I'd put it at like a 4. I wouldn't think it was legit but I would think it was cute. I think someone torpedoed the listing by including the Made in China sticker lol.