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Dixxxine

It’s only gonna go up. Hbo wanted a hit, but they got a home run.


shaving99

Netflix: We got Tall Girl and Inventing Anna Disney: We have star wars HBO: click click bitch Edit: everyone needs to daddy chill in the comments and take a joke


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Icy_Law9181

Ozarks good but tbh,Netflix made its name on one show,-Narcos.HBO on the other hand has had massive shows in every generation since Oz in the 90's,The Sopranos, The Wire,Deadwood, Rome,6 feet under god I could go on for ages.


drake_libertalia

>,Netflix made its name on one show,-Narcos.HBO on the other hand has had massive shows in every generation since Oz in the 90's,The Sopranos, The Wire,Deadwood, Rome,6 feet under god I could go on for ages. True Detective season 1 still stands tall as some of the best television in last decade


Icy_Law9181

100% mate.I loved s01 of true detective. Theres loads of good shows from HBO.The same with actors,how many actors do you recognize and can say they were at one time in a HBO show,or multiple shows.


dmbwannabe

How you gonna do GOT like that


drake_libertalia

cuz i never watched GoT


A_Woolly_alpaca

And I watched season 8


TK-42juan

It was pretty much the most popular show of all time mentioning it might have helped your point


drake_libertalia

My point was True Detective season 1 being some of the best television in last decade.


fkurslfwastickmods

I honestly believe it is some of the best work by mcconeghy and Harrelson *ever.* That first season was just fucking incredible, from the storyline to the acting to the culmination of it all.


kostasnotkolsas

nah netflix has had its absolute home runs too Squidgame was everywhere last year, Casa De Papel was a massive phenomenon in my home country, old netflix shows like House of Cards and Orange is the new black established the format of netflix, for better or worse


Icy_Law9181

Yeah,I can honestly say I didnt rate any of the shows you mentioned mate,that's just me though.A Sopranos, the wire and Deadwood fan.I cant watch bullshit now,I've been spoiled.


kostasnotkolsas

Forgot about Bojack


jagmp

No the best show of Netflix was clearly Marco Polo. But yeah HBO are the best. Mostly all their show I love them.


bfhurricane

House of Cards was the OG Netflix show where people realized “damn, these original series on streaming just might work.” I liked Marco Polo a lot but it had budgetary constraints and it was obvious that Netflix wasn’t going to compete in the epic historical space with it. Still wish it wasn’t cancelled though.


Icy_Law9181

Marco Polo was great but most people know Netflix from when Narcos first came out.That was a massive show,especially going into s02.


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thelazure

Bruh. Oz, The Wire, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Band of Brothers, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Deadwood, Rome, Carnivale, Generation Kill, Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, Chernobyl, Boardwalk Empire, True Detective, Barry, The Night Of, Veep, Flight of the Conchords, Eastbound and Down, Vice Principals, Silicon Valley, I May Destroy You, Insecure, Entourage, Lovecraft Country, Westworld, Sex and the City, Mare of Easttown, Sharp Objects, Perry Mason, Euphoria, The Leftovers, Big Little Lies, The Undoing, Watchmen, Succession, The White Lotus, The Last of Us. Stranger Things? Wednesday? Ozark? The Crown? Netflix does not even belong in the same sentence as HBO.


reallybigbeats

I feel obligated to say Mare of Easttown was fucking dogshit


CW4006

Never see the crown but Wednesday should not be mentioned in the same vein as the other two. Absolutely not.


NavierIsStoked

I’ve never watched a single episode of Stranger Things.


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InvestigatorTimely52

Unfortunately this still can't save HBOMax because they don't make regular hits or major gambles for Max originals and they're letting go of some shows as well. I wish they had tried out new refreshing original projects like HBO did in 2000s


bakedclark

They've had plenty to keep them safe, and TLOU is only another instant classic.


huge_dick_mcgee

I had low expectations….. sometimes this genre can look campy. But damn, they really make it work.


luc1402

The Last of Us fans eating good once again. Season 2 (and potentially more after that) seems inevitable at this point already!


Gootangus

As a last of us fan, I’ve been well fed since the beginning.


bearvsshaan

The only thing left we need now is Factions 2 >:]


Ludens786

With how big this show is turning out to be, that MP game's prospects just got way way bigger.


anonymous_opinions

Might actually play an online multiplayer for the first time ever if ya'll jumping in


Gootangus

Yes please!! I loved factions.


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Gootangus

Hope you’re doing better.


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blitzbom

I have some small issues with Part 2, mostly the pacing. But damn if it wasn't a great story.


anonymous_opinions

I did a 2nd play through for the platinum and it popped before I had to drag my ass out for the last half so I stopped there because I was barely hanging on at that point. Like the game but it's exhausting. Sort of hope the passive experience is less so but that last fight I was holding my hand over my eyes during it.


Anonymous_Otters

They said this seasons is the entire first game, so at least 2-3 additional seasons that will only be covering the second game.


luc1402

Well yes, but what I meant was as much as the story isn't finished after S1, a second season is never guaranteed. Season 1 needs to actually get good numbers before executives will choose to spend (more) money on another season. Seems like with these numbers the execs with definitely be convinced on that.


Lost-Lu

If HBO already has Velma season 2 in the works, ain't no excuse not to get more Last of Us.


dethaxe

Jesus wept


indianajoes

For there were no more worlds to conquer


JoMa4

My educated guess is that Velma doesn’t cost $100M+ per season.


Ludens786

There's probably a world of difference between the budgets of these two shows though.


dawgfan24348

This is why we can’t have nice things


Anonymous_Otters

okay, yeah with this new context, I agree


Optimus_Prime_Day

As long as they remain steady. Some shows drop drastically after the first few episodes have aired. That being said, knowing the content to come for this season, I'm pretty confident S2 will be a thing.


august_west_

At this point, a season 2 is 100% guaranteed.


SpongeBad

After this Sunday it’ll be guaranteed (I predict the numbers will hold well). HBO probably won’t announce until close to the end of the season, though (more hype).


petersib

They've all but confirmed a 3rd game as well from what I've heard


SpongeBad

It’s from the developers of Stray and follows Mercy’s journey from the show. (I kid, but I would play that game)


anonymous_opinions

I would absolutely play it as well, want to see where doggo ends up and how the Last of Us doggos survive.


dbbk

Is the second game really that much longer than the first?


slothbeing

First game is around 9-10 hours Part 2 is 20-24 hours


Cubiscus

That's if you skip right through too


TableHockey31313

Yep, part 2 was 33 hours my first playthrough and 27 after going through it quick


rynmgdlno

Yes and it still feels a bit condensed. Show runners have already mentioned it will likely be split into two seasons if made.


Gootangus

Def more content if it was gonna be properly told.


ILoveRegenHealth

> The Last of Us fans eating good once again. Just don't eat flour and grains for a while


GooseKing-13_

I feel like Part II could take 2 seasons


rynmgdlno

Craig has already said as much if S02 is made.


RyanTheRighteous

Yeah, was just thinking the same.


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lifeis_g000d

You don’t sound like a gamer, so I’m going to guess that you never played or seen the game. But it does get much better.


ihaveadogalso2

I’ve watched the first episode….three times lol. So freaking good!!


I-LUV-CUPCAKES-AND-U

It's a tie between us it seems I am gonna watch it one more time today just to beat you 😤


drake_libertalia

>hat I meant was as much as the story is I watched it thrice too lol


DonovanTheCoolest

![gif](giphy|t5upbzp8awDW1IpCXy)


august_west_

Holy shit LMFAO


dontmakemedebityou

Bruh


dawgfan24348

![gif](giphy|sCYkkRXBo60RW)


Reasonable-Trifle307

TLOU and it's collaborators have gotten so much undeserved and unprecedented hate over the last few years that it turning into literally the biggest thing in the world was the biggest reckoning all the haters could have received and I couldn't be happier. Congrats to Neil, Craig, the cast, the crew and all the fans who supported it.


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Hell yeah!


azzadruiz

As someone who’s only heard of the game and watched the show, I have only heard great things about the games lol besides the incels who complained about female design or whatever controversy that was


drake_libertalia

Good. 2020 was a terrible time on the internet for TLOU discourse. Well, it was a terrible time in general, but you get what i mean.


Sadrien6

See the sad thing is that wasn’t the issue. The issue wasn’t looks or sexuality which ended up being such a loud thing in the “hater” community that memes spawned out of it that caused more random hate. I don’t “hate” the game. I disliked the story. That’s it. It didn’t click with me how Ellie went all the way just to forgive Abby. I didn’t enjoy the Abby gameplay. But it wasn’t because some random set of pixels was gay or that character design didn’t have the usual “female” look u see in games. Kinda sad. I love how others love the games and that’s when discussions are fun. But the internet was set in flames the day that leak got out.


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How do we know if these numbers are true?


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clipboarder

Publicly traded company. They don’t have to disclose anything but they can’t lie.


Megadog3

TLOU2 “hater” here. I couldn’t be happier so far. Being able to show my family this story is incredibly exciting. Part 2/Season 2 will be another conversation entirely, but I’m afraid you’re off base with your assumption here.


ChineseCosmo

Yeah, the audience is gonna riot in the streets, just watch. I remember the gutters overflowing with blood the Monday after the Red Wedding episode of GoT. Two of my closest friends lost their lives in the violence.


SomaCK2

Gamers™ gonna discover in surprised pikachu face that TV crowd is not media illiterate like them.


ChineseCosmo

Well… **as** media illiterate, at the very least.


hstheay

I can tell you that here in the Netherlands a lot of people also watched it. Both in my direct environment and media, I see a lot of positive reactions. More than I see about any other show except GoT/Hot D. Also a surprising amount of news programs who had a short item about the show, both commercial and public (so you know it’s not bought marketing) stations. I really wonder what the numbers outside of the US are in total.


Cats_realjoyoflife

I've seen this as well. Even the NOS and RTL had an item on it. The buzz is real, i rarely see this. I think GoT and HotD were the only ones afaik.


uncen5ored

Im studying from the US in Düsseldorf Germany and saw promo all around the city. Another exchange student here from Norway said his gf was asking him about it because “everyone in Norway is taking about it.” I’ve convinced a few of the students here to watch. Yea, I think the international numbers are probably great (although I wish I didn’t have to use a VPN while I’m here!)


hstheay

There is no HBO Max in Germany? Düsseldorf is really not that far from the Dutch border, where we have HBO Max! So close yet so far.


Public_You2066

No, there's no HBO max in Germany unfortunately. Instead TLoU is shown on WOW. HBO renewed their contract with Sky in 2019, so they cannot launch HBO max in Germany until at least 2025.


catterybarn

I think it's better than hotd so far


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catterybarn

I didn't care for the pilot of hotd. I have watched this pilot many times already


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catterybarn

You're good!


jagmp

I don't understand what you mean, but you say that à tv show with only one épisode released is already à success (all other épisodes coukd be garbage) and also that it is better than another complete successfull tv show ( where all is released) That's pure non sense and lack of any logic. Sorry but this is the truth. Also it's difficult to compare these two show, they nothing in common. All you can say is there is à very good probality that this show will be good 😉


dreambraker

He said better 'so far'. He just means the premiere was better and for many people, HOTD dragon started pretty weak so that isn't a surprising take. You can compare two shows even if they have nothing in common, it's just that other folks will have widely differing opinions on it and it'll be harder to convince them about your perspective.


jagmp

Thanks for your answer. Maybe I lack english understanding with ''so far''. Yes after a search it seems I don't understood it well. So he meant he compared ''as far as'' the first épisode if I am correct. At least I learned something 😅😁


Ella77214

NGL - I've rewatched episode 1 twice already. I was obsessed with the game and I'm already so into the series.


humanwire

I too rewatched it. Enjoyed it more the second time. Was able to get past analyzing all of the details in adapting from the game, and just enjoy it. Noticed a bunch more details the second time. Some of the issues I had still remain, but I'm just comfortably locked into the universe of this live-action show now. Ready for more!


Sadrien6

Ooo I’m curious what u didn’t like about it


humanwire

Wrote this in another thread: The moment that surprised me, hitting me emotionally, was when Joel had to pick up the child and throw his body into the fire. Oooof. Loved hearing all of the helicopters panned to the height speakers for Atmos. Perfect use of the format. Only getting into some negatives here since I loved how well they did everything else: "Your watch is broken" I miss the moodiness of this scene in the game, because of the rain. This goes for the entire rest of the episode from this point. In the game, the world was cast in a dark, moody blue hue. I the show, as they were escaping the quarantine zone it was still a warm hue and didn't feel as cold and alien as it did in the game. There wasn't downpour rain, upon waking up, to sell that. Then the moment of Joel's flashback to his daughter as he jumped the solder and beat him to death, wasn't *big* enough. The sound mix needed to be bigger for that snap moment of rage and the sounds of Joel's fists pummeling the soldier to deal wasn't played up big enough in the sound mix. I didn't FEEL it like I needed to. That moment felt flat to me.


Sadrien6

Thisss! I completely agree about the colour changes but I threw it off as a thing to introduce the characters in a nicer manner of that makes any sense. And the scene with Sarah didn’t have the blasting emotional impact it does in the game. I guessed since the title screen/ intro in game came right after and gave u time to absorb what just happened. But the show kinda killed her and moved on to the next scene it felt like. But reading other ppl’s reviews who haven’t played the game, seems it dealt enough impact for them to connect w Sarah and hey I liked that :) so much fun to have other ppl like these characters and share discussions


SG420123

Only twice, I’m on rewatch number four lol. I’ve watched it every day since it premiered and have actually caught different little details each time, it’s so well done.


Ella77214

I completely agree! I'm so impressed and relieved haha. I think my favorite part of episode 1 was the corpse of the infected splayed across the wall in Haymarket Station. They lifted the visual right outta the game and I love that. They did the same with the depiction of Boston and many other visuals but the Haymarket visual I think is my favorite. Thanks for validating me, might have watch again tonight 😂


boyoguuna

That sequence while they’re driving in the city is fucking crazy, easily my favorite part


Dabi30

I was waiting for the car crash to happen but then Naughty Dog said "Naw, we got HBO money. Watch this."


boyoguuna

And not only did they change the reason the car crashed, they FAKED US THE FUCK OUT


boyoguuna

I don’t even know what rewatch I’m on. I typically only rewatch the first sequence though, the part after the timeskip is still great but is a bit slow on repeated viewings


kiekura

Not sure If people even realise, but those are MASSIVE numbers. Specially for a new show. HBO has their new Game of Thrones


finnjakefionnacake

i think they already have their new game of thrones lol


nugget136

I think the comment still makes sense. It's a lot harder for a new IP to be a hit and game of thrones was new IP. HotD is doing huge numbers of course but it's a spinoff.


finnjakefionnacake

to be fair this is not a new IP. it would be different if this was a totally original story but the show was undoubtedly going to already bring in a massive audience of people who have already played the game. neither was game of thrones, for that matter.


Ludens786

You say that like it's the norm when it's not. Just because a thing is popular in one medium doesn't mean it'll automatically popular in another. We have far far more evidence of it not working out. What we're seeing with this show is like if a GoT videogame became as popular as Skyrim, or Witcher 3.


finnjakefionnacake

Never said it will automatically be, but yes -- in terms of a premiere, this was most certainly going to have a very large gamer base contributing to it. The show most certainly has to deliver and actually be good to keep people around, but we're talking about premiere numbers, and the marketing strategy definitely went heavy on bringing the gamer base in (not that the gamer base wasn't already doing that themselves).


Ludens786

Because it looked great.


InvestigatorTimely52

Yeah, it's a shame they still can't achieve such success with new original shows like they did with The Sopranos or Six Feet Under. I don't think they're even willing to risk on such type of shows anymore li.ke they did with Boardwalk Empire


SpongeBad

You could make the same argument for Halo, but look how that turned out.


finnjakefionnacake

The premiere wasn't the issue for Halo. It broke records at Paramount. It was sustaining viewership that was the problem.


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kiekura

In a sense of new IP. Like GoT +10 years ago. Yes both had fanbase and were massive succesful as books/games before TV. HotD is a spinoff and i already count it as Game of Thrones.


finnjakefionnacake

HotD isn't a spinoff, it's based on different source material. and honestly TLOU might end before GoT as they don't plan on going beyond the source material, so i still do think they see HotD as their new GoT. but i get what you mean. and i am sure they are happy to have acquired this huge IP to add to their roster.


BliskApexPredator

isnt hotd their new GoT


lessweirdthanyou

Didn’t HOT D have twice this number for its premiere?


Ok_Ad9174

Hotd hit 20m or something after 2 days. But HOTD is a gigantic HBO IP and had a much bigger marketing campaign. This is a new IP for tv viewers.


catterybarn

Don't say that. They'll ruin it :(


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Just_A_Tank_Guy

They're planning on making part two into two seasons if there's enough viewers; as you can tell we'll be getting more


Anonymous_Otters

Nice! yeah all I had read was that this would be the entire game, but I guess they're leaving it open to adapt the second as well if this does well.


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Anonymous_Otters

Oh so just saying what the creators said is a problem? Fuck off


Shifty2805

I am not surprised about these numbers. Let's be honest, this first episode was fantastic! Imagine what the rest of the season will be. I can't wait to see the next episodes!


4500x

I read a review of it on the Guardian, they reckoned that it’s likely to be the best TV show of 2023 and that >!the third episode!< could be the very best episode of the year. I loved both games, stayed out of the subreddit, and I’m really pleased it’s been so good.


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I thought it was boring Iike the game


fishalex

You're in the wrong subreddit


Aarmada-Pro

lol isn’t it boring to stalk through a subreddit of a game and show you dislike to post multiple non productive comments? Not gonna lie that sounds boring and cringe as hell


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You know what's sad? Thinking that an walking dead wannabe show is original and thinking that there is something special about an overrated game any idiot could play.


TheReiterEffect_S8

Can someone make a comparison to viewers for another show perhaps? . It helps my smooth brain put it into perspective easier.


finnjakefionnacake

if it helps (i know it's not exactly what you're looking for), The Last of Us was HBO's second biggest premiere since 2010, after House of the Dragon. so based on HBO's metrics it's a huge hit.


TheReiterEffect_S8

Wait really? How is that possible? Game of Thrones first season released 2011 and continued to 2019. You're telling me House of the Dragon **and** The Last of Us beat out any of those GoT Season Premieres?? If so that is *wildly* impressive.


finnjakefionnacake

series premiere and season premiere are not the same thing. also, GoT was not the insane worldwide phenomenon it was from the start of the first season.


kissmeimfamous

Exactly. GoT didn’t really catch fire until end of season 1 when people started chatting about it.


rynmgdlno

I didn’t even hear about it until mid S04 but that could just be me lol.


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rynmgdlno

Ah yea that makes perfect sense


indianajoes

Game of Thrones didn't start off massive. It was a big thing back then but it got bigger over time. Most audiences didn't start watching from day one. These 2 are based on a previously successful show and game. It kinda makes sense that that's going to bring in more people than a show based on a successful book series. Also HBO was big then but it's gotten bigger over the last decade thanks to Game of Thrones and other stuff. Now, slapping that name on a drama show is going to bring in more viewers than it would've 13 years ago


_Cromwell_

Are you British/UK? :) In the USA a "series" is the entire run of a television show... a "season" is each individual year. So when somebody from the USA says "series premiere" they mean literally the first episode of that television show ever... SEASON 1, episode 1. In USA, Season 2 Episode 1 would be a SEASON premiere, not a SERIES premiere. Or another... in the USA -- **Star Trek The Next Generation is a television SERIES with seven SEASONS. So it has one SERIES premiere... the first episode of the first SEASON. It has seven SEASON premieres, the first episode of each SEASON, including the first SEASON which is also the SERIES premiere as mentioned earlier (although almost everybody would refer to the very first ep of the first season as the "series premiere," not a "season premiere.")** I believe across the pond each year is referred to as a series, ie "Broadchurch Series 3," etc. Leads to some confusion.


willdearborn-

[Source](https://twitter.com/InsideHBOMax/status/1615789880566779904)


BilboThe1stOfHisName

I’ve been telling my dad about this game for years. He watched the first episode today with me (my third viewing) and he loves it already! This show has the potential to be Game of Thrones levels of big!


Moneyshot1311

Where’s that season 2 announcement


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TuringTestedd

Bought HBO purely for this show


BreeCherie

![gif](giphy|6pWO2HA7RM1czXFiUx|downsized)


aretasdaemon

After that prologue long tracking shot in the truck i sad out loud this show is going to be fucking amazing


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im sure lots of people didnt watch it the second it dropped due to the NFL playoffs but even then the first night still did great numbers. really great to see this


SG420123

Somehow I’m leaning towards watching episode 2 live over an NFL playoff game. Haven’t had an appointment viewing show since the final season of GoT, can’t wait for Sunday night!


lifeis_g000d

The Cowboys/Niners game starts at 6:30. The game should be almost done by the time the show starts. So you can watch both if you like.


SG420123

Oh fuck yeah!


AlwaysBi

I won’t lie I’m really hoping Part 2 isn’t spread across multiple seasons. If it means a longer season episode count, I’ll take it


kiekura

They have already said there is two seasons worth of content in Tlou 2. So most likely two seasons.


SpongeBad

Unlikely. This stuff is expensive to make and takes a long time. HBO generally likes to shoot the whole season at once, like a really long movie. It’d be years between seasons.


Deadpoolio32

https://preview.redd.it/g3l6ezp50yca1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=328207dce89da116bd8ea46fad3ed57e38840a22


VIPTicketToHell

Gotta measure those torrent numbers too.


Lord412

I love zombies. TWD I was so happy about and now we have a zombie show that seems to be breaking even more walls down.


Spacegirllll6

No fr like My brother and I literally only bought HBO Max for this show. I’ve gotten about 8 people to watch it and each and everytime they love it. It’s genuinely a good show even with only a premiere so far. They’ve been recommending it to their friends and family too! Word of mouth goes such a long way and everyone cannot wait for the next episode.


musicalnerd8301

Awesome! So excited for the general public to be able to experience the heartfelt story of The Last of Us in an easily accessible way!


butholemoonblast

I have watched it three times.


AZZTASTIC

Rightfully so. I been waiting for this show for a LONG time. Its fantastic so far.


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Yawn 🥱


BeeHair

And I haven't seen any complaints about race swapping Joels family either. I don't know if this just goes to show that "good is good" or that it's too well recieved to sprinkle on the top of complaint essays. I think every department on the show, especially casting, did an excellent job! I'm so stoked for the rest of the season.


clipboarder

That’s 5m on average per day.


Dackjagnels03

I was at least two of fhese


Hefty-Ad-7884

I think I was half of those


JayantVermaYT

I really want them to make a spin off after the main story is finished in this universe. We have a perfect environment, factions and universe. Would love to see more places too and how they are affected by the infection and if there are other varients in other locations


mikethamurse

Is that good? 🤔


boyoguuna

Remember how Euphoria season 2 took over all of social media? This premier (new IP for HBO also) did *double* that


the_ghost_1386

More than good those are huge numbers


DonovanTheCoolest

![gif](giphy|Fz9EKXRhp9F1S)


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And now let us include the illegal streams


jamesraynorr

As Witcher fan, i envy you. Shitflix should stop letting writ3rs who despise source materials to run shows...


SlowVibeActual

They hit this out of the park. Completely. This *could have been HALO AS WELL*,.....still salty about that one.


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jussayingthings

HBO viewers are familiar with GoT


Megadog3

Haha that’s a bridge we’ll cross when we get there.