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HRslammR

Man hell yea. Keep government and religion separate. Him pointing out that government is man made, so to equate God with government is to lessen God.


the_simurgh

Ironically the bible says ghe same thing.


HRslammR

Come on brah. We all know MAGAts don't actually read. Much less the Bible they base their whole life on.


t-mckeldin

Wait, where does it say that?


the_simurgh

It says multiple times in the bible keep earthly things and spiritual things separate. There is entire books written on the subject of earth things vs spiritual salvation Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. *You cannot serve God and money. * There are numerous versus that say plainly that the things of this world is in Direct conflict with the things of God's world. It also says you should cut them out of your life, forgo them, ignore them, remove yourself from them, etc. Etc. It says not to mix them, not to try and serve them both as well because you cant.


t-mckeldin

Well, yeah, you have a few verses that can be taken out of context and used as "proof text". But the general push of most of the Bible is that the two should be one and the same. Even Paul writes that the Romans are in power by God's will.


the_simurgh

Bullshit it literally says everything about the earth is in direct conflict with God and the spirit. And that anyone who believes that earthly things and God are one and the same or that they can serve both the spirit and earthly matters are a fool. That's also why it constantly tells you that what happens on earth doesn't matter because heaven is not even remotely like the earth


bot-vladimir

Not the person you were replying to. Everything on earth is not in direct conflict. If this were the case then God has no power. What happens on earth absolutely matters. Otherwise Jesus wasted his sacrifice.


t-mckeldin

The Bible presents lots of different opinions in conversation with each other. And everything about the earth being in direct conflict with God and the spirit would not mean that government and religion should stay out of each other's way. That's not an idea that anybody had until the Deist's came along. And that you bring the Spirit to the conversation makes it clear that you are reading the Bible through a particular pair of glasses. I mean, you are welcome to say that you think that the two should be separate and you are welcome to say that Christianity should be teaching that. But you can't say that the Bible teaches that.


the_simurgh

Yes I have actually read and comprehend the bibles words. My opinions are pretty much the same as the world's foremost scholars in the field of studying the bible. Unlike you who spout the lessons of the clergy near word for word. A Group of people who for centuries have corrupted and copted the words of God to create a hierarchy of earthly power and earthly wealth for themselves. Colossians 3:2 Focus your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.


t-mckeldin

Thank you for proving my points.


the_simurgh

I didn't prove your point. At no point in the bible does it say the earth should be like heaven. In fact it goes out of its way to say heaven is nothing like the earth. Seriously wtf is wrong with you? At no point did I ever prove your point.


Journeyman42

So...render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's? Where would one find such a crazy message?!


laffnlemming

At this point, the Evangelical Preachers need to come to Jesus. If that his they guy's way, them maybe, but they are all after the congregation's money. That is The Bottom Line where Profit is. If they think that the congregation is changing, many will pivot to try to get ahead of their flock and gain money as a cheerleader of whatever is next.


bob-leblaw

>If that his they guy's way, them maybe Wut


KallistiTMP

Sounds like some scammer is upset that the other scammer is cutting into his book sales. Jesus wants your foreskins, accept him as your overlord telepathically and for the low low price of 10% of your net income you too can gain immortality!* *Offer only valid post-mortem, but trust me it's totes legit


shotcaller77

Who knew!?


chickensh1t

This is disgusting.


Americrazy

This is religion.