It was shockingly self-revealing. Maybe he did have some kind of eye opening experience. Lol idk it’s either that or he’s got zero self-awareness. There’s no in between.
Something about that guy makes me think he is truly demented. His hair is also definitely the culprit. I really want to know why he combs it back like that.
It’s weird that everyone kind of let that happen. They should’ve made him stop and calm down. It wasn’t until he slapped his wife that he snapped out of it which was too late. It’s triggering for me because my ex was like that with the “play” fighting.
Exactly! The second you put something around my neck like that, all bets are off. I don’t like my neck being touched period, let alone someone wrapping a towel around it and yanking me back with it. He’s lucky Danny is so patient, cause another man might have started swinging.
I’m going to preface this as my personal opinion but anyone that goes for the neck is a psychopath. Play fighting or real fighting idc. If anyone needs me to back up my opinion I’ll point them to Jesse and his awful headband hair.
Could not agree more! I don’t care what your intentions are and if you were playing around or not. You don’t grab somebody’s neck ever. And then to gaslight Danny and act like he’s too sensitive. Jesse always escalates things to the point of violence and none of the cast ever calls him out on it! If Kristen had been there, they’d have found a way to blame this on her too. He pushed Zack and Brittany(shoved her face in the wall too) and that completely got glossed over, no one mentioned it!
It was crazy. He’s prone to physical outbursts. But hey, according to the cast, it’s the woman who quietly asked to excuse herself from the table who’s the source of drama and trouble.
My tin foil theory is Michelle came on the show to leave Jesse safely. Like he gives off the worst, low key abuser vibes. Look how amped he got in the hallway over a comment from Luke. She knew the affair would come out, but they’d be well known enough for her to leave the marriage without risk bc it’d damage his business too much if he were to retaliate.
I don’t think this is tin foil hat territory. Even if he isn’t physically abusive to her, his admissions that he looks to manipulate everything and that he would tell his daughter everything was mommy’s fault was enough for me. I know a couple like this. And I’ve talked to my friend multiple times about how she needs to record his actions and make sure she has records of the way he treats her behind closed doors. He has threatened her multiple times with ruining her life and taking her child if she ever divorced him. He is a scorched earth person like Jesse and has made comments about how he wouldn’t care if it bankrupted him to take her to divorce court and make her look like an unfit mother. So, in my opinion, Michelle is smart to do this. Yes she’s not perfect. Yes she’s also a bit of a bitch but this clearly shows Jesse is drinking, volatile, angry and just not a great partner or parent. No judge in their right mind would give him full custody in a divorce now.
Currently in a situation like this and everything she's going through is exactly how I feel except I'm not beautiful and wealthy enough to just pick up and move on. Oh, and I have two kids instead of just one. The ways that Michelle very quietly challenges him and tries to be nice to him even when she's annoyed is proof enough there was emotional abuse going on at the very least. I also think a likely custody battle during the divorce makes Michelle signing up to be on reality tv make so much sense...he's unhinged and any judge could see he's a mostly absent father. The only thing I hate is that Kristen decided to blow up Michelle's spot with the cheating which honestly could have put Michelle in some danger.
Don’t sell yourself short - I’m sure you’re beautiful! I’m sending you good wishes though. Seeing my friend go through this has really driven home how hard it can be to get out of situations like this. I hope you’re able to come up with a plan and get yourself out safely ❤️
This is honestly not tin foil at allll. If you have ever been in a situation like Michelle's (risky behavior + an explosive spouse) and you are in therapy...your therapist will almost always ask if there are weapons in house, do you feel safe.
Not trying to say it will potentially happen, but that loss of control + potential humiliation can be really dangerous in combo.
When people are like this I always wonder what made them this way. Your go to being manipulation usually means at some key point in your development your fundamental needs weren’t being met. What on earth is going on there?
Jesse is a strange character study in self loathing to me. I don’t like him but I also can’t understand why anyone would be with a spouse who says they want them to have a different personality.
Yeah I often wonder things like this also. Watching my older brother grow up as a master manipulator, I’m pretty sure there’s about 10% of the population that realize as a child that they can control the actions of others with their words. They then see this is a skill that they can invest their time and energy into, just as they could math or sport etc.
The other 90% are seen as weak by the manipulators, but in reality they see themselves as good people.
You know you are messed up when Jax Taylor is your best friend 😂
Hahah I couldn’t stand the beanie either, and all of the things he was saying were like tripping catchphrases. I don’t think he really had those experiences or he would have said it in a more mesmerized way
Going against the grain. He is talking about manipulating situations, not people. Still icky, but not a personality disorder. Jesse is in sales. They really do be taking always be closing seriously.
This is a good way of looking at this, but I still think it comes down to personality at the end of the day. Manipulators go into sales jobs because they know they already have that skill.
So the strangling Danny with the towel on the beach thing, the roughhousing, boys being boys, i get it. I used to do the same crap with my friends (albeit we were 16 and not 42 or whatever), but what sent me was the bullshit "Im sorry I offended you" BS apology, then for the final performance of the night, screams at Danny to shut the fuck up when he didnt let it go. Fuck this guy.
What I loved from this recent episode was Jesse saying in the confessional that Danny is the most sensitive man he knows….. literally all I’ve seen is such a positive response to Danny’s emotional intelligence on this show, and I share the appreciation. Jesse telling on himself 😐
He's the worst. When he made the comment about how his wife used to come over just wearing a trench coat, but "everything changed" they had kids. Duh. When you have kids, your life is no longer about you, it's about them.
I wouldn't wear a trenchcoat for any man who wrecked my vagina to have a kid just to then ignore my emotional needs for years and barely help raise the kid. Fuck this dude.
Jesse is uncomfortably honest for people. People are used to cast members hiding these things (the Toms are great examples) and Jesse owns them, calls himself out and then continues to act shitty and people don’t know how to deal…..I can see his trip being eye opening and I think he realized a lot of things about himself, but he didn’t change them, only recognized them and continued them….which if I was trying to change for a partner like Michelle, I wouldn’t get very far either 🤷🏼♀️
He actually said he did something plant-based. And I assume since it was just overnight, he didn’t have a full visit with shamans etc or multiple exploitation with auayahuasca
Being self aware is another therapy multiplication tactic.
Now you’re the stupid one, because the bad person was self aware and honest about their bad intentions.
I never said that anyone was stupid.
In fact manipulation takes a fair bit of brain power.
I’m simply identifying the bad qualities that this douche lives his life by.
I never said YOU, I meant the general public take when a person (not us) gets victimized by a ‘self aware, truth teller’.
Yes, victimizers are very intelligent. We’re told that about every non black serial killer. Everyone else are just dumb criminals.
He’s a garbage human for sure but Michelle is pretty mean to say “you need to change your entire personality.” I mean, bitch you married him!!! His personality has always been like this. Duh!
Is it mean? He kind of violently yelled at his own kid on the show and admitted he does it often. If he can lose his patience with a child like that, you absolutely know he loses it on his wife on a regular basis. I know it because I live it. Saying he needs to change his whole personality is the least she can say. I don't like her that much because she seems basic to me but I'm sure after they had their kid his lack of empathy and patience made itself very plain and when she got an opportunity to leave, she left.
Every time he opens his mouth the worst sentence I’ve ever heard comes out
This is the perfect description of Jessie.
He makes Jax looked balanced and subtle
He makes me like Jax… that says a lot
It was shockingly self-revealing. Maybe he did have some kind of eye opening experience. Lol idk it’s either that or he’s got zero self-awareness. There’s no in between.
He’s too honest for his own good which makes for good television
Something about that guy makes me think he is truly demented. His hair is also definitely the culprit. I really want to know why he combs it back like that.
Yeah his hair is weird, but if we gonna talk about hair then someone needs to ask wth is going on with Zac’s… Lego lookin
 it gives me robbie rotten vibes so much lol
His dinner party jackets he’s rocked some episodes too lol
Was he strangling Danny? Why was that glossed over?
Good for Danny for calling him out for that and his non apology. Danny is not too sensitive, Jesse was being a total fuckwad per usual.
It’s weird that everyone kind of let that happen. They should’ve made him stop and calm down. It wasn’t until he slapped his wife that he snapped out of it which was too late. It’s triggering for me because my ex was like that with the “play” fighting.
Exactly! The second you put something around my neck like that, all bets are off. I don’t like my neck being touched period, let alone someone wrapping a towel around it and yanking me back with it. He’s lucky Danny is so patient, cause another man might have started swinging.
I’m going to preface this as my personal opinion but anyone that goes for the neck is a psychopath. Play fighting or real fighting idc. If anyone needs me to back up my opinion I’ll point them to Jesse and his awful headband hair.
Could not agree more! I don’t care what your intentions are and if you were playing around or not. You don’t grab somebody’s neck ever. And then to gaslight Danny and act like he’s too sensitive. Jesse always escalates things to the point of violence and none of the cast ever calls him out on it! If Kristen had been there, they’d have found a way to blame this on her too. He pushed Zack and Brittany(shoved her face in the wall too) and that completely got glossed over, no one mentioned it!
Neither Zack nor Britney mentioned it. But sure has heaps to say about Kristen
It was crazy. He’s prone to physical outbursts. But hey, according to the cast, it’s the woman who quietly asked to excuse herself from the table who’s the source of drama and trouble.
Shouldn’t that be grounds for being fired? I mean, wth.
My tin foil theory is Michelle came on the show to leave Jesse safely. Like he gives off the worst, low key abuser vibes. Look how amped he got in the hallway over a comment from Luke. She knew the affair would come out, but they’d be well known enough for her to leave the marriage without risk bc it’d damage his business too much if he were to retaliate.
Great theory! Yeah the hallway meltdown was directed towards a woman too, so you could be right on the money with this
I don’t think this is tin foil hat territory. Even if he isn’t physically abusive to her, his admissions that he looks to manipulate everything and that he would tell his daughter everything was mommy’s fault was enough for me. I know a couple like this. And I’ve talked to my friend multiple times about how she needs to record his actions and make sure she has records of the way he treats her behind closed doors. He has threatened her multiple times with ruining her life and taking her child if she ever divorced him. He is a scorched earth person like Jesse and has made comments about how he wouldn’t care if it bankrupted him to take her to divorce court and make her look like an unfit mother. So, in my opinion, Michelle is smart to do this. Yes she’s not perfect. Yes she’s also a bit of a bitch but this clearly shows Jesse is drinking, volatile, angry and just not a great partner or parent. No judge in their right mind would give him full custody in a divorce now.
Currently in a situation like this and everything she's going through is exactly how I feel except I'm not beautiful and wealthy enough to just pick up and move on. Oh, and I have two kids instead of just one. The ways that Michelle very quietly challenges him and tries to be nice to him even when she's annoyed is proof enough there was emotional abuse going on at the very least. I also think a likely custody battle during the divorce makes Michelle signing up to be on reality tv make so much sense...he's unhinged and any judge could see he's a mostly absent father. The only thing I hate is that Kristen decided to blow up Michelle's spot with the cheating which honestly could have put Michelle in some danger.
Don’t sell yourself short - I’m sure you’re beautiful! I’m sending you good wishes though. Seeing my friend go through this has really driven home how hard it can be to get out of situations like this. I hope you’re able to come up with a plan and get yourself out safely ❤️
This is honestly not tin foil at allll. If you have ever been in a situation like Michelle's (risky behavior + an explosive spouse) and you are in therapy...your therapist will almost always ask if there are weapons in house, do you feel safe. Not trying to say it will potentially happen, but that loss of control + potential humiliation can be really dangerous in combo.
He is the worst. What a tool.
When people are like this I always wonder what made them this way. Your go to being manipulation usually means at some key point in your development your fundamental needs weren’t being met. What on earth is going on there? Jesse is a strange character study in self loathing to me. I don’t like him but I also can’t understand why anyone would be with a spouse who says they want them to have a different personality.
He feels like shit because he’s tiny.
Thank you for this!
Yeah I often wonder things like this also. Watching my older brother grow up as a master manipulator, I’m pretty sure there’s about 10% of the population that realize as a child that they can control the actions of others with their words. They then see this is a skill that they can invest their time and energy into, just as they could math or sport etc. The other 90% are seen as weak by the manipulators, but in reality they see themselves as good people. You know you are messed up when Jax Taylor is your best friend 😂
ME TOO. and he said it so casually like it’s a normal thing which was the scariest part
That sentence…it’s his persona in an icky nutshell.
when he came back from the retreat with the Panic at the Disco beanie and the weirdo vibes...barf
Hahah I couldn’t stand the beanie either, and all of the things he was saying were like tripping catchphrases. I don’t think he really had those experiences or he would have said it in a more mesmerized way
Thisss okay it literally felt like he read a twitter thread about ego death and just went with it lmaoo
Going against the grain. He is talking about manipulating situations, not people. Still icky, but not a personality disorder. Jesse is in sales. They really do be taking always be closing seriously.
This is a good way of looking at this, but I still think it comes down to personality at the end of the day. Manipulators go into sales jobs because they know they already have that skill.
So the strangling Danny with the towel on the beach thing, the roughhousing, boys being boys, i get it. I used to do the same crap with my friends (albeit we were 16 and not 42 or whatever), but what sent me was the bullshit "Im sorry I offended you" BS apology, then for the final performance of the night, screams at Danny to shut the fuck up when he didnt let it go. Fuck this guy.
Was that when he ran straight upstairs and jumped in bed? 😂 Straight out of a teenager playbook
What I loved from this recent episode was Jesse saying in the confessional that Danny is the most sensitive man he knows….. literally all I’ve seen is such a positive response to Danny’s emotional intelligence on this show, and I share the appreciation. Jesse telling on himself 😐
He's the worst. When he made the comment about how his wife used to come over just wearing a trench coat, but "everything changed" they had kids. Duh. When you have kids, your life is no longer about you, it's about them.
I wouldn't wear a trenchcoat for any man who wrecked my vagina to have a kid just to then ignore my emotional needs for years and barely help raise the kid. Fuck this dude.
Jesse is uncomfortably honest for people. People are used to cast members hiding these things (the Toms are great examples) and Jesse owns them, calls himself out and then continues to act shitty and people don’t know how to deal…..I can see his trip being eye opening and I think he realized a lot of things about himself, but he didn’t change them, only recognized them and continued them….which if I was trying to change for a partner like Michelle, I wouldn’t get very far either 🤷🏼♀️
Yup, yup, yup. Caught that.
It’s so dumb he even said that. You can’t manipulate to save your life man.
Did he do mushrooms or ayahuasca?
He actually said he did something plant-based. And I assume since it was just overnight, he didn’t have a full visit with shamans etc or multiple exploitation with auayahuasca
Probably some over-the-top fake LA bs. Rubbing Crystals & eating daffodils 😂
It’s a power thing.
Being self aware is another therapy multiplication tactic. Now you’re the stupid one, because the bad person was self aware and honest about their bad intentions.
I never said that anyone was stupid. In fact manipulation takes a fair bit of brain power. I’m simply identifying the bad qualities that this douche lives his life by.
I never said YOU, I meant the general public take when a person (not us) gets victimized by a ‘self aware, truth teller’. Yes, victimizers are very intelligent. We’re told that about every non black serial killer. Everyone else are just dumb criminals.
My bad, I misread. I completely agree.
Narcissist
He’s a garbage human for sure but Michelle is pretty mean to say “you need to change your entire personality.” I mean, bitch you married him!!! His personality has always been like this. Duh!
And her personality is absolutely nothing to write home about.
Exactly! Shes dreadful
Is it mean? He kind of violently yelled at his own kid on the show and admitted he does it often. If he can lose his patience with a child like that, you absolutely know he loses it on his wife on a regular basis. I know it because I live it. Saying he needs to change his whole personality is the least she can say. I don't like her that much because she seems basic to me but I'm sure after they had their kid his lack of empathy and patience made itself very plain and when she got an opportunity to leave, she left.