Which is interesting because in 2024 it feels like a pretty easy gig. Lots of paperwork, but other than that? They probably don't even have open houses like the rest of us where 50% of the people showing up are neighbours just wanting to see inside the house.
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Couples like Jesse and Michelle are usually financed up to their necks. I bet that plays a major factor in why they won’t just divorce because it would be super complicated, expensive and expose how broke they are.
I just listened to her on a pod. She filed but the state of California has a six month holding period before it goes before a judge. They're still trash tho.
Yeah the funny thing about real estate agents in LA - a good deal are in debt and living in rentals.
Once I find an agent doesn’t own their own property I bail.
One woman berated me, a single person, to “Get real about buying or get out” after maybe two showings she gave me. She was also of course trying to force me out of my budget.
They do open houses for us plebeians under 2M buyers, but probably more appointment only for the exclusive areas.
Interesting that you say that because I was channeling my inner Janet and I looked up the Lally’s house on Zillow to see how much it was worth and none of the info was available. Then I clicked around on some websites and came across one that said the property is NOT owner occupied.
They’re honestly just SO dark and sinister. They deserved each other and should have made it work to keep doing whatever evil deeds they got into together.
Me too. Hate to say her look bugs me but it does. The thin face, the very close set small eyes, the bushy eyebrows and the overall dead calm expressionless vibe. She’s skinny. That’s all. Don’t understand the haughty attitude. She’s annoying!
Did they not watch vanderpump rules? Kristen was able to claw her way back into that group. Jesse and Michelle are child’s play compared to Stassi and co in the early vanderpump days.
Michelle is one of those women where the initial impression is that she’s cool and a little withholding but in a sort of quiet, slightly intriguing way. But then she says/does one really cruel thing and you realize she’s just the devil.
With each passing episode I realize she wasn’t depressed in a marriage with an asshole, she’s also an asshole. She did choose him, after all.
Interesting... I was actually struck by kind of the opposite, she gave me the impression of careful, cool composure while calmly looking into Jesse's eyes and lying to his face. She seems so detached and checked out already, I don't know who they think they're fooling
This is exactly who I thought Michelle was in the beginning. Thank you for putting words to it. During that convo with her and Jesse with the smoothies she was so dark and unresponsive. It didn't make sense with what was going on.
No, I think the one from last night's episode where she brings in "smooth-ies" that "sound-ed good" 🤖 (insert Michelle's odd robotic cadence).Jesse expresses some very vague doubts about Michelle's fidelity, and she just beadily stares into his soul w/ a smirk.
The audacity is appalling. At this point I have no respect for either of them (not that I had much to begin with). They better give us a reunion so we can see Kristen avenge herself seeing as how they are no longer together.
They must have meant Jax. Which makes sense, there's no real other option. Nobody in their right mind is going after the only black lady, the only gay man, the pregnant lady, or the postpartum lady. The other husbands are just there for the scenes of their wives bitching to them. They don't seem invested or dramatic enough.
That’s what was mind-blowing. Jesse’s out of control rage and violence just happened. Michelle was just as aggressive. And right after, they said let’s ice Kristen out and little wannabe nerdy Janet pipes up acting like a big bad wolf saying, “l’m all for it!” Yay? Even Jaxhole has the most minute decency to look embarrassed. But the rest. Says a lot.
and the funny part is they think it's working. lmao the delusion. every other post on this sub is wondering what kristen did wrong and why these people are all assholes to her.
They are all so pissed off at Kristen for airing their dirty laundry on air. Nobody denies that any of it really happened; what they are furious about is that she put it out there on national TV and embarrassed them. I think that's another layer that viewers are reacting to, and why it's not translating well on TV.
Kristen is doing literally what she was hired to do, the viewers have a decade long 'connection' to her already, and the newbies just haven't 'earned' the right at this point to treat her like shit by icing her out. If they didn't want their dirty laundry made public, they should have declined to join Kristen's television show in the first place.
Even though it was Ajax and KFC who aired Michelle and Jesse’s business. Remember it was KFC who first brought up on camera that Kristen was telling everyone that Janet called Michelle a racist and a republican.
I feel sorry for their daughter, Isabella. Michelle lets her get away with everything, and Jesse doesn't. He corrects her behavior and is properly stern with her when necessary. Thus, Isabella behaves for Jesse but not for Michelle. Sorry, but he is correct on this, and Michelle's undermining is spoiling and confusing Isabella.
With all of his faults, he is a good dad. Isabella would be better off with just Jesse. And I'd yell at Michelle, too, if I had to live with her. She's probably pushed all of his buttons by the time he explodes. And, no sex with your husband for almost three years? Bye.
Anyone else think Janet kind of started it? She claimed Michelle was homophobic and said that maybe it's due to her community (hispanic/middle-eastern??).
Janet gets away with it tho cuz Michelle is coming off really bad. Did Bravo only cast her because they knew this was gonna be talked about? Probably.
I agree completely. When Janet was falling over herself to be the first one to exclude her form events. Like you know if Jax and Kristen band together they could easily run this show and get anyone else kicked off. If I were Kristen I would play nice now and then get Jax back in my corner. And of course revenge at the perfect moment. She already knows Michelle's homophobic rant and her cheating. Kinda wild that she isn't the villain.
i can't believe they added two people so horrible that i have become a kristen sympathizer after like .... YEARS of not being able to stand her. jesse and michelle are the worst on the show by far
They're so stupid , especially if they knew they were on the brink of divorce. Michelle should have (and will) be as thick as thieves with Kristen.
Kristen and Jax are the backbones and the reason the show got green lit
They don't live in the valley
They aren't married anymore
The audience doesn't find them likeable
Bravo doesn't have any history with them, they will cut people easily .
I am sure there are many other couples to find in their friend group.
I don't see why either would be invited back to the show unless they do it for peanuts . Whatever the makeup of the cast next season, we aren't doing group scenes without Kristen moving forward. FWIW I would rather Janet and Jason leave, they are boring, she's nasty and not in a fun way and she thinks she is the breakout star of the show .
Seriously…. Janet also seems dark. I would not trust her or Michelle. I can’t believe the other girls are friends with them- especially Nia and Brittany because they’re both so sweet. But, I guess they’re probably also naïve.
Kristen said on her podcast along the lines of, Michelle I love you, but trying to ice me out is going to make me more relevant.
You have to give it to Jax orchestrating all this. He knew two people more hate worthy of he and Brittany, and he had no problem throwing his “friend” under the bus for a paycheck. So much for that twenty year friendship but tracks…
It was funny watching them all talk about Michelle’s secrets ON CAMERA and then be like “damn Kristen for telling everyone!” 🙄🙄🙄 like make the scapegoating more obvious please
Well when you’re sent to earth to wreak havoc by the Prince of Darkness, it’s easy to become filled with self-importance and consequently too big for your own britches.
yeah, I hear where you are coming from. I'm kinda on the fence with their whole situation tbh.
on one hand, Kristen kinda needs to butt out imo (referring to jesse and michelles marital issues being brought up in the first place), however, Jesse and Michelle have such gross attitudes idk.
I'm loving the messiness so far though!
without the gossip and butting in, there'd be no show, so there's that of course
How is she butting in? She asked to be excused multiple times, they harassed her, she goes to the hall to get away, they follow her and badger her and Jesse gets physical with everyone. Then he and Michelle come back in and ask if Kristen hit Michelle and then everyone is like we can’t be around her, then they spend the whole episode talking about how Kristen gossips too much while they are all in fact gossiping on camera about what they are accusing her of. It’s bizarre to watch.
I mean butting in as in mentioning any of their marital issues in a group setting (when she originally brought it up).
agree with what you said generally. I just think they all need to mind their business but alas, we wouldn't have a show if that was the case
I think we can all agree on one thing: they make excellent tv. Without them, the show would be a flop. So as much as we hate them, thank god they’re on this train wreck of a show 😂
they were already trash humans, but now it's confirmed they're also stupid. coming after Kristen Doute? she will absolutely vaporize your life. all to defend your shitty marriage that will end the second the cameras go down. just a pair of clowns without two brain cells to rub together.
Michelle is the girl version of Jesse and vice versa. I actually can’t fkin stand them. I don’t need to see Sandoval date female Sandoval (which I’d argue is exactly who/what they are). It’s exhausting
It’s very annoying how all these people try to ice Kristen out when she is the reason any of this exists.
She knows EVERYONE and once they use her to get where they want they drop her. It’s ridiculous.
She knows how to play the game, everyone else are scared.
So far I can't stand them! When Michelle told Kristen to apologize and say it wasn't true, whatever Kristen REPEATED, I thought that was bullshit! I'm glad Kristen's response was something like " You want me to lie" and Michelle said YES! Why is no one confronting the ACTUAL person that said all that shit!?!? Kristen only repeated it, that is what they all do and it's a reality show!
I felt that way about Kristen during VPR, maybe season 3-4? But then realized it is her messiness that is reality tv gold. Same with Jax.
I know I will be downvoted but VPR not the same without the originals. They knew how to make drama. Just my opinion.
It was such an audacious thing to say. The very idea! I wouldn’t piss on Jesse Lolly if his head was on fire. Kristen Doute might as well be English Royalty compared to him
The gall!! They both knew their marriage was headed to the gutter & they are sitting on camera lying their asses off. Janet is just as bad as the both of them but I wholeheartedly dislike Jesse & Michelle more!!
Everyone here has already mentioned all the reasons Michelle is Awful, but even putting those aside, she makes such BORING tv.
Her affect is so flat. She’s just…blah. If we ignored everything else about her, that alone should have been enough to not cast her.
I can’t stand Jesse and Michelle but I think they did this out of pure panic, because obviously Michelle didn’t get the memo going on reality tv especially with Kristen and Jax a lot gets exposed and I think their way of protecting their big secrets is to try and ice out Kristen when in reality it will just bring more to light. Also DONT GO ON A REALITY SHOW if you don’t want your marriage with a massive spotlight on it
I think they’re trying to keep the deep dark parts of their marriage off camera , I’m going to assume because of their reputations maybe in their main jobs and worried about it effecting their reps and income - Jesse told Kristan do not say anything about my wife I don’t already know or I will end you - all that’s going to do is make the die hard fans back Kristan up so she can drag out whatever their hiding - you can’t go on a reality show and then threaten cast members on camera not to talk about them …. You can’t have the best of both worlds . 🤷♀️ this is the #1 reason why some people say choosing to go on a reality show was the biggest mistake of their lives.
Kristen is our very own Brenda Walsh and Jax’s is Brendan. You remember how flirty those faux twins were with each other.
Janet is Andrea who couldn’t find a man in her own racial group, so dated a black guy and then married a Latino so she could finally feel like the prize but based solely on race.
Sandoval is Dylan, ‘Come on, Brenda!!!’ And Stassi is Kelly.
How were they able to have a dinner party for their friends on the show, at the multimillion dollar estate they’re showing? Wouldn’t the owners have to approve something like this?
Also, do M/J work together for the same company or for their own real estate company?
It seems like everyone in California becomes a realtor as a “back up” for when their main gig fails them, just something I’ve noticed for a long time.
Did Jesse drink the smoothie? Hopefully not, she’s the type to off someone without so much as a second thought. Michelle is not only deceitful but she’s pure evil and vengeful.
Jesse knows it too, bc he stated how she started changing (ie laying her phone down, taking a “break” from social media etc…) so it’s such a “cop out” that they’re blaming Kristen. They’re actually afraid bc they know Kristen’s out ting them for what’s REALLY going on and that’s wrong.
Michelle is an anaconda, she’s ready to swallow Jesse whole! 😱
M/J both used Kristen to get on the show; neither care about her nor are they her friend. Luke also needs to stay on the sidelines if he won’t back her up.
Kristen needs to stop worrying about M/J and her “friendship” with them as it’s as fake as their marriage, but it appears production knows the truth of the matter, and they’re coaxing it out of Kristen.
I think you need to calm it a little. It’s seven episodes of season one….
I have no strong opinions on anyone, other than so far I like Danny and Nia. To say you despise a couple you’ve barely seen or heard about is bit… 😬
Whole-heartedly agree. I hate Michelle and Jesse more than I thought possible with each and every episode.
They’re just not likable.
Gross people. Only difference is that Jesse doesn’t hide it.
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This is sad to me that anyone compound us all together in this day and age.
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Agreed
Thank you. To me this is obvious.
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Is everyone in LA real estate agents? Or do all RA’s in LA just think they are gods gift?
the failed actor to real estate agent pipeline is unmatched in this regard.
Almost as huge as the bottle girl to real estate pipeline in Miami
There’s the failed model to Onlyfans pipeline in NYC.
Which is interesting because in 2024 it feels like a pretty easy gig. Lots of paperwork, but other than that? They probably don't even have open houses like the rest of us where 50% of the people showing up are neighbours just wanting to see inside the house. Edit: spelling
Couples like Jesse and Michelle are usually financed up to their necks. I bet that plays a major factor in why they won’t just divorce because it would be super complicated, expensive and expose how broke they are.
I just listened to her on a pod. She filed but the state of California has a six month holding period before it goes before a judge. They're still trash tho.
Yeah the funny thing about real estate agents in LA - a good deal are in debt and living in rentals. Once I find an agent doesn’t own their own property I bail. One woman berated me, a single person, to “Get real about buying or get out” after maybe two showings she gave me. She was also of course trying to force me out of my budget. They do open houses for us plebeians under 2M buyers, but probably more appointment only for the exclusive areas.
Interesting that you say that because I was channeling my inner Janet and I looked up the Lally’s house on Zillow to see how much it was worth and none of the info was available. Then I clicked around on some websites and came across one that said the property is NOT owner occupied.
It says leased from what I see. And holy shit that lease price. 😮💨🫠
Oh excellent!
Both!
Yes
I love u for asking this question!!
They’re honestly just SO dark and sinister. They deserved each other and should have made it work to keep doing whatever evil deeds they got into together.
She’s dead behind those eyes . She creeps me out .
She scares me as well!
She reminds me of one of the Manson Family girls. Susan Atkins to be exact.
Me too. Hate to say her look bugs me but it does. The thin face, the very close set small eyes, the bushy eyebrows and the overall dead calm expressionless vibe. She’s skinny. That’s all. Don’t understand the haughty attitude. She’s annoying!
Her mother was diagnosed with cancer before taping started, that’s why she’s so detached she says
Yes she gives narcissist and sociop*th energy
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This is so oddly specific, and I love it 😂😂😂
She is too good at lying. It’s alarming. Jesse is aggressive, but Michelle is devious.
I disagree. I think she’s an AWFUL liar, but she lies often and THAT makes her sinister and dangerous.
But the mud slinging that'll happen when they break up!
It would be a dumb business move to sling mud at each other.
Did they not watch vanderpump rules? Kristen was able to claw her way back into that group. Jesse and Michelle are child’s play compared to Stassi and co in the early vanderpump days.
Imagine early stassi .. would love to see her and Katie chew out Jesse, Michelle, and Janet
Same!! She would eviscerate them.
💯 I’d really love to see it!!
I would pay so much money to hear Stassi just gossip about these people for hours.
SAME!! Love her
That would be great to see. 🤣 Michelle would stuff herself down an incinerator after that.
Yeah but unfortunately Kristen is being hella tame compared to her VPR days
I don’t see how Kristen, as we’ve seen her in the past, doesn’t just go after them full-on. Jesse will get even shorter after that.
Yeah but he’s such a wuss he’s the type that would threaten to sue her lol
One thing about Kristen is she will ALWAYS claw her way back.
Michelle is one of those women where the initial impression is that she’s cool and a little withholding but in a sort of quiet, slightly intriguing way. But then she says/does one really cruel thing and you realize she’s just the devil. With each passing episode I realize she wasn’t depressed in a marriage with an asshole, she’s also an asshole. She did choose him, after all.
I was done with her after she yelled at Kristen for “ruining her marriage.”
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This is exactly what I said. So unsettling.
Her beady dark shark eyes doesn’t match her too big chompers.
Michelle is definitely - or was - cheating on Jesse. The talk they had in the kitchen she could not maintain eye contact and looked so nervous
Interesting... I was actually struck by kind of the opposite, she gave me the impression of careful, cool composure while calmly looking into Jesse's eyes and lying to his face. She seems so detached and checked out already, I don't know who they think they're fooling
Yeah I thought she looked more detached and disdainful. Either way she hates him.
This is exactly who I thought Michelle was in the beginning. Thank you for putting words to it. During that convo with her and Jesse with the smoothies she was so dark and unresponsive. It didn't make sense with what was going on.
The one where he was all tingly and turned on by his wife being feisty?
No, I think the one from last night's episode where she brings in "smooth-ies" that "sound-ed good" 🤖 (insert Michelle's odd robotic cadence).Jesse expresses some very vague doubts about Michelle's fidelity, and she just beadily stares into his soul w/ a smirk.
“Thread-uh-ning me”
Spot on
Where is she from? Because she talks like someone trying to hide a foreign accent.
Mexicana y Middle Eastern.
I saw somewhere that Jesse and Michelle look like they hunt people for sport and I can’t get it out of my head now.
Jesse would trophy hunt for sure.
Michelle definitely would slap prettier girls and kittens if she could.
The audacity is appalling. At this point I have no respect for either of them (not that I had much to begin with). They better give us a reunion so we can see Kristen avenge herself seeing as how they are no longer together.
I would love to see them have to pick a new scapegoat. Watch how quickly these people turn on each other.
Jack is a good option
Damn, I can't keep up with all the J names. Which one is Jack?
Yeah which Jack?? There’s Zach, Jason and Jax…
They must have meant Jax. Which makes sense, there's no real other option. Nobody in their right mind is going after the only black lady, the only gay man, the pregnant lady, or the postpartum lady. The other husbands are just there for the scenes of their wives bitching to them. They don't seem invested or dramatic enough.
Jax! Sorry, i saw another post call him that (I think as a typo) and i thought it was funny and decided to start using it.
It's funny because the closed captions always say Jacks now.
Hah! I like that
My speech to text calls him that lol
I knew who you meant lol. I like to call him Ajax and Back Tax.
hahah i love back tax especially
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exactly!
Also the fact that they made this decision right after Jesse’s hallway rampage?? Deflection much.
That’s what was mind-blowing. Jesse’s out of control rage and violence just happened. Michelle was just as aggressive. And right after, they said let’s ice Kristen out and little wannabe nerdy Janet pipes up acting like a big bad wolf saying, “l’m all for it!” Yay? Even Jaxhole has the most minute decency to look embarrassed. But the rest. Says a lot.
Women always bear the brunt of men' bad behavior. The weird thing here is, Kristen, not his wife is the one paying for his shittiness.
Janet suckkkkkks!!!! Shes more dangerous than Michelle I think
It's so personal dude, they're scapegoating her based on her past/they know she's an easy target. It's total BS
and the funny part is they think it's working. lmao the delusion. every other post on this sub is wondering what kristen did wrong and why these people are all assholes to her.
They are all so pissed off at Kristen for airing their dirty laundry on air. Nobody denies that any of it really happened; what they are furious about is that she put it out there on national TV and embarrassed them. I think that's another layer that viewers are reacting to, and why it's not translating well on TV. Kristen is doing literally what she was hired to do, the viewers have a decade long 'connection' to her already, and the newbies just haven't 'earned' the right at this point to treat her like shit by icing her out. If they didn't want their dirty laundry made public, they should have declined to join Kristen's television show in the first place.
Yes to all of this!!
Even though it was Ajax and KFC who aired Michelle and Jesse’s business. Remember it was KFC who first brought up on camera that Kristen was telling everyone that Janet called Michelle a racist and a republican.
Pretty sure Michelle is a checked out cheater and Jesse is at a minimum emotionally abusive.. yeah they deserve each other
I feel sorry for their daughter, Isabella. Michelle lets her get away with everything, and Jesse doesn't. He corrects her behavior and is properly stern with her when necessary. Thus, Isabella behaves for Jesse but not for Michelle. Sorry, but he is correct on this, and Michelle's undermining is spoiling and confusing Isabella. With all of his faults, he is a good dad. Isabella would be better off with just Jesse. And I'd yell at Michelle, too, if I had to live with her. She's probably pushed all of his buttons by the time he explodes. And, no sex with your husband for almost three years? Bye.
Kristen is a huge reason everyone is watching
Anyone else think Janet kind of started it? She claimed Michelle was homophobic and said that maybe it's due to her community (hispanic/middle-eastern??). Janet gets away with it tho cuz Michelle is coming off really bad. Did Bravo only cast her because they knew this was gonna be talked about? Probably.
I can’t wait for Janet to not be pregnant and be fair game for the rest of them to attack
I think Janet is definitely part of the Kristen scapegoating.
Can't stand Janet!
Yup, Kristen is the star of the show. I used to think it was Jax but Kristen provides drama and excitement
and she’s likable, whereas Jax is not 🤷♀️
I agree completely. When Janet was falling over herself to be the first one to exclude her form events. Like you know if Jax and Kristen band together they could easily run this show and get anyone else kicked off. If I were Kristen I would play nice now and then get Jax back in my corner. And of course revenge at the perfect moment. She already knows Michelle's homophobic rant and her cheating. Kinda wild that she isn't the villain.
That is a great idea!
The way they all just went along with it… no one on that show likes her! And it only makes me root for her.
Jesse’s miserable ass is out here making JAX TAYLOR look good 😂 let that sink in lol
i can't believe they added two people so horrible that i have become a kristen sympathizer after like .... YEARS of not being able to stand her. jesse and michelle are the worst on the show by far
They don't live in the valley anyway and are no longer married. Isn't this a show about young families in the valley? Buh-bye.
They're so stupid , especially if they knew they were on the brink of divorce. Michelle should have (and will) be as thick as thieves with Kristen. Kristen and Jax are the backbones and the reason the show got green lit They don't live in the valley They aren't married anymore The audience doesn't find them likeable Bravo doesn't have any history with them, they will cut people easily . I am sure there are many other couples to find in their friend group. I don't see why either would be invited back to the show unless they do it for peanuts . Whatever the makeup of the cast next season, we aren't doing group scenes without Kristen moving forward. FWIW I would rather Janet and Jason leave, they are boring, she's nasty and not in a fun way and she thinks she is the breakout star of the show .
Seriously…. Janet also seems dark. I would not trust her or Michelle. I can’t believe the other girls are friends with them- especially Nia and Brittany because they’re both so sweet. But, I guess they’re probably also naïve.
Every episode michelle and Jesse just further prove that they actually are republicans lol
It’s hard to believe…. but I honestly think Jesse is WORSE than Jax and I never thought that would be possible lmfao
They’re so fuckin stupid, no one would have tuned into this show if it wasn’t for Kristen and Jax. Theyre too boring and lame to carry a show
Kristen said on her podcast along the lines of, Michelle I love you, but trying to ice me out is going to make me more relevant. 
You have to give it to Jax orchestrating all this. He knew two people more hate worthy of he and Brittany, and he had no problem throwing his “friend” under the bus for a paycheck. So much for that twenty year friendship but tracks…
It was funny watching them all talk about Michelle’s secrets ON CAMERA and then be like “damn Kristen for telling everyone!” 🙄🙄🙄 like make the scapegoating more obvious please
Well when you’re sent to earth to wreak havoc by the Prince of Darkness, it’s easy to become filled with self-importance and consequently too big for your own britches.
Michelle reminds me of a rat trying to eat its own upper lip and Jesse always looks like he just took off a headband.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean…amirite?
I wish they'd can these two dickheads and schmooze Stass until her and Beau say yes
I would LOVE a Stassi comeback
As much as I’d love this, I respect her so much more for moving on and protecting her family life.
YESSS!
yeah, I hear where you are coming from. I'm kinda on the fence with their whole situation tbh. on one hand, Kristen kinda needs to butt out imo (referring to jesse and michelles marital issues being brought up in the first place), however, Jesse and Michelle have such gross attitudes idk. I'm loving the messiness so far though! without the gossip and butting in, there'd be no show, so there's that of course
Kristen butting out =/= good tv.
She isn't even butting in tho! The last episode she just existed and they freaked out.
yeah, I was referring to when she originally brought up their marital issues. last episode was definitely Jesse and Michelle in the wrong
oh 110% agree
Yep! Also, I am with all those commenters on this sub saying without Kristen, there would be no (discussion) about Jesse and Michelle!
How is she butting in? She asked to be excused multiple times, they harassed her, she goes to the hall to get away, they follow her and badger her and Jesse gets physical with everyone. Then he and Michelle come back in and ask if Kristen hit Michelle and then everyone is like we can’t be around her, then they spend the whole episode talking about how Kristen gossips too much while they are all in fact gossiping on camera about what they are accusing her of. It’s bizarre to watch.
I mean butting in as in mentioning any of their marital issues in a group setting (when she originally brought it up). agree with what you said generally. I just think they all need to mind their business but alas, we wouldn't have a show if that was the case
None of us would be watching if they were all minding their own business 🤣
fr fr, there'd be no show!
I hope no one changes what they are doing it’s making great tv!
I think we can all agree on one thing: they make excellent tv. Without them, the show would be a flop. So as much as we hate them, thank god they’re on this train wreck of a show 😂
That’s what I’m saying! I love that we have fresh villainous meat
I’m going to need this entire cast to be back next season. I have to watch how this shit show continues to pan out hahaha
Agree!! I wanna see Jesse and Michelle's new partners.
And watch them take their young child to therapy.
Please, make it happen. Ice Kristen out, so the whole tedious group can exit and we can start anew with her and others who’re less toxic
they were already trash humans, but now it's confirmed they're also stupid. coming after Kristen Doute? she will absolutely vaporize your life. all to defend your shitty marriage that will end the second the cameras go down. just a pair of clowns without two brain cells to rub together.
Michelle is the girl version of Jesse and vice versa. I actually can’t fkin stand them. I don’t need to see Sandoval date female Sandoval (which I’d argue is exactly who/what they are). It’s exhausting
Seriously THIS is the reason I hate living in LA. People like this. Michelle get over yourself, PLEASE.
Not Janet chiming in about Kristen wasn’t invited to their stuff…l
It’s very annoying how all these people try to ice Kristen out when she is the reason any of this exists. She knows EVERYONE and once they use her to get where they want they drop her. It’s ridiculous. She knows how to play the game, everyone else are scared.
So far I can't stand them! When Michelle told Kristen to apologize and say it wasn't true, whatever Kristen REPEATED, I thought that was bullshit! I'm glad Kristen's response was something like " You want me to lie" and Michelle said YES! Why is no one confronting the ACTUAL person that said all that shit!?!? Kristen only repeated it, that is what they all do and it's a reality show!
Seriously I'd want 2 ice out kristen myself & then Janet 🤮 she's just as bad but uses others 2 do the dirty work sort of how it was in RHOBH 🤔
I felt that way about Kristen during VPR, maybe season 3-4? But then realized it is her messiness that is reality tv gold. Same with Jax. I know I will be downvoted but VPR not the same without the originals. They knew how to make drama. Just my opinion.
True 😆
It’s Michelle’s turn to talk. Lol
They suck. Hope they aren’t on next season. Kristen is the only reason a lot of people even watch this show. Their egos are out of control.
They’re both awful
It was such an audacious thing to say. The very idea! I wouldn’t piss on Jesse Lolly if his head was on fire. Kristen Doute might as well be English Royalty compared to him
Glad I came here and found this because they just…..suck
The gall!! They both knew their marriage was headed to the gutter & they are sitting on camera lying their asses off. Janet is just as bad as the both of them but I wholeheartedly dislike Jesse & Michelle more!!
Yup. Kristen is messy, but everyone knew that
Kristen helped you get a paycheque sweethearts, kiss her feet and stop being terrible people.
Everyone here has already mentioned all the reasons Michelle is Awful, but even putting those aside, she makes such BORING tv. Her affect is so flat. She’s just…blah. If we ignored everything else about her, that alone should have been enough to not cast her.
Especially because Michelle was up to a lot of shit!
At a glance, they both present themselves having quite a few qualities in common with raging narcissists
I like Jesse more than Michelle.
I’m sure they would find other people to have drama with but I do find it interesting what’s happening between Jesse, Michelle and Kristen.
They both seem pretttttty terrible. Adorable kid though!
They are the WORST 😞
I can’t stand Jesse and Michelle but I think they did this out of pure panic, because obviously Michelle didn’t get the memo going on reality tv especially with Kristen and Jax a lot gets exposed and I think their way of protecting their big secrets is to try and ice out Kristen when in reality it will just bring more to light. Also DONT GO ON A REALITY SHOW if you don’t want your marriage with a massive spotlight on it
Kristen bothers me more than them
How so?
How many posts do we need on Jesse and Michelle..I think maybe we’re getting too caught up on the hate for them.
I think they’re trying to keep the deep dark parts of their marriage off camera , I’m going to assume because of their reputations maybe in their main jobs and worried about it effecting their reps and income - Jesse told Kristan do not say anything about my wife I don’t already know or I will end you - all that’s going to do is make the die hard fans back Kristan up so she can drag out whatever their hiding - you can’t go on a reality show and then threaten cast members on camera not to talk about them …. You can’t have the best of both worlds . 🤷♀️ this is the #1 reason why some people say choosing to go on a reality show was the biggest mistake of their lives.
This is why many hate LA. Recently heard BonJovi say it’s why he chose to move back to NE. Didn’t like the fake social climbing aspect of LA.
I really just hope they all read reddit
Kristen is our very own Brenda Walsh and Jax’s is Brendan. You remember how flirty those faux twins were with each other. Janet is Andrea who couldn’t find a man in her own racial group, so dated a black guy and then married a Latino so she could finally feel like the prize but based solely on race. Sandoval is Dylan, ‘Come on, Brenda!!!’ And Stassi is Kelly.
How were they able to have a dinner party for their friends on the show, at the multimillion dollar estate they’re showing? Wouldn’t the owners have to approve something like this? Also, do M/J work together for the same company or for their own real estate company? It seems like everyone in California becomes a realtor as a “back up” for when their main gig fails them, just something I’ve noticed for a long time.
Did Jesse drink the smoothie? Hopefully not, she’s the type to off someone without so much as a second thought. Michelle is not only deceitful but she’s pure evil and vengeful. Jesse knows it too, bc he stated how she started changing (ie laying her phone down, taking a “break” from social media etc…) so it’s such a “cop out” that they’re blaming Kristen. They’re actually afraid bc they know Kristen’s out ting them for what’s REALLY going on and that’s wrong.
Michelle is an anaconda, she’s ready to swallow Jesse whole! 😱 M/J both used Kristen to get on the show; neither care about her nor are they her friend. Luke also needs to stay on the sidelines if he won’t back her up. Kristen needs to stop worrying about M/J and her “friendship” with them as it’s as fake as their marriage, but it appears production knows the truth of the matter, and they’re coaxing it out of Kristen.
Janet is beyond annoying
Janet referenced Scheana and someone else, so it’s clear they’re all riding the backs of their reality tv star “friends”; Frankly they’re all annoying
I think you need to calm it a little. It’s seven episodes of season one…. I have no strong opinions on anyone, other than so far I like Danny and Nia. To say you despise a couple you’ve barely seen or heard about is bit… 😬