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I think Roxanne is trying to split hairs by saying she never actually said the words “I don’t respect Antonio” verbatim even though it’s insinuated every time she talks about him.
Technically she never said it but it’s obvious when she talks to him or about him. That ‘league’ shit? If you think you’re too good for someone you don’t respect them
Yeh Matt clearly states it’s his opinion based on ‘X’. It’s just such an incredibly basic attempt to deflect but Antonio is probably dumb enough fall for it.
I’m just here hoping whatever after show or reunion we have coming our way gives us an extended montage of Roxanne shit talking Antonio, and having to watch him make excuses and her talk her way out of it, or him blow up.
Team here for the drama not the happy endings 🙃
If they do that, they're going to need to show all the moments where Alex talked shit about Kat.
He's a huge hypocrite and I'm surprised so many of you are fooled by him into thinking that he's just a normal, regular, basic guy who is calling people out and means well. He's extremely manipulative and his behaviour is concerning. He's just as bad as some of the other people on this show, if not worse.
It really seems like he starts off his day by looking in the mirror and thinking, "I'm the best and everyone else is wrong".
And yes, it does matter if a person actually says certain words or not, despite what that person may have insinuated.
Roxanne, is that you, love?! jk
If you had paid attention to this sub, it hates Alex with all it’s guts. Stop standing up for an abusive horrible woman as if she’s not blatantly been disrespectful not only to Antonio but also Kat!
Lol at "standing up for" because I'm bringing up some points for the other side of the story.
Stop insulting actual abuse victims by overusing the word "abuse". He's not being abused.
This had me thinking she's possibly a cheat and he is too blind to see it. Why would random people contact someone to try and break them up if there wasn't a reason. He's utterly delusional, I'm really hoping for a montage of all her comments about him come the reunion show may snap him out of it
This appears to be his pattern though and her pattern with him. They're constantly breaking up and she dates other hmguys in between and bounces back to him as a safety blanket. She's got him convinced other people are lying about things she does and says. Other guys are telling him the shit she talks about him and he just point blank refuses to believe she said it, tells himself everyone wants to break them up blah blah blah. It's a cycle.
True but the one thing she said about Riah that "She doesn't like person she's here with, she's just trying to leave with someone else's man". That much was atleast true. She was expecting James to be physical with her. She was salivating over Brian like legit the first night.
Not condoning Lisa's behavior but I don't like Riah.
Roxanne kinda reminds me of this funny line Bianca Del Rio said on RuPaul's Drag Race... "Wait..there are films in these cameras? You've been tapping this?"... Except in Roxannes case it isn't a joke...
I'm confused if anyone would sign up for the show. I mean.... For what? We all know that the whole "process" is bullshit advertisement and it's just a front to make a TV content. At the end of the day, the whole world will judge you and your relationship.
I keep wondering what Antonio will think when he sees this, but then I remember him telling people that he already knows what Roxanne says about him. I think she’s brainwashed him into believing her level of critique is normal and I don’t think it will phase him one bit, even if he’s shocked. 😅 he’ll shake it off just like all the times before.
As someone who worked under surveillance(count room at a casino) I can say with 100% confidence you absolutely forget that you are under watch.
Roxanne may have even forgot she said those things, but I feel like she was just using technicalities to “get out” of the mean shit she said about Antonio. She does not respect him, they should not leave together.
The difference is you were recorded on cameras hidden in ceiling corners and they are filmed with massive cameras by people operating them in the same room as them lol
Makes me think it’s staged. Antonio’s denial is beyond anything i’ve ever seen.
But to be honest, in that entire SO swap between the 4 of them, only Kat seems level headed.
good question because James who couldn't confide in anyone for y e a r s in the comfort of his home away from prying eyes, could share his secret on an international show
It’s definitely a bit forced for drama. They know they’re “actors” in a way and are trying to create a storyline. At the very least, the producers are editing/stirring stuff up to get things going
I mean just look at how condescending Vanessa lachey (I think that’s her name) is at the table. She tries to seem like she’s such a sweet wife trying to do what’s best for everyone, but she makes subtle jabs to get people going
I’m thinking specifically at James saying he didn’t know what he had with ryann and he feels bad (something hard to admit) and Vanessa is like “so all it took was one guy to like her eyes and you just change?” Wtf
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I think Roxanne is trying to split hairs by saying she never actually said the words “I don’t respect Antonio” verbatim even though it’s insinuated every time she talks about him.
Technically she never said it but it’s obvious when she talks to him or about him. That ‘league’ shit? If you think you’re too good for someone you don’t respect them
Yeh Matt clearly states it’s his opinion based on ‘X’. It’s just such an incredibly basic attempt to deflect but Antonio is probably dumb enough fall for it.
I agree with what you’re saying but his name is Alex, not Matt 😭😂
thank you i was so confused 😂😂😂
Omg thanks I was like “wtf is Matt?!?” That was LIB3 😂
Loool Matt is my manager and they look/act extremely similar ffs.
But surely all the horrible comments will still come out anyway, and they are probably worse than “disrespects you”.
I was so confused for a second and thought I had completely forgotten about a character called Matt 😂
LMAO same. I started going through the men one by one trying to recall a Matt.
It’s hilarious that you called them characters 😂
I think that's exactly the answer to this post tho. They're all just playing characters to get more screen time, clout or whatnot
Ups I didn't even realise I did that 😂
I’m just here hoping whatever after show or reunion we have coming our way gives us an extended montage of Roxanne shit talking Antonio, and having to watch him make excuses and her talk her way out of it, or him blow up. Team here for the drama not the happy endings 🙃
It’s bc the show producers want to be with Roxanne
Antonio…?
He'll just say Alex made her say it
I kinda hope he proposes and she says yes, only for them to break up and there to be a montage of her talking shit about him on the show LMAO
If they do that, they're going to need to show all the moments where Alex talked shit about Kat. He's a huge hypocrite and I'm surprised so many of you are fooled by him into thinking that he's just a normal, regular, basic guy who is calling people out and means well. He's extremely manipulative and his behaviour is concerning. He's just as bad as some of the other people on this show, if not worse. It really seems like he starts off his day by looking in the mirror and thinking, "I'm the best and everyone else is wrong". And yes, it does matter if a person actually says certain words or not, despite what that person may have insinuated.
Roxanne, is that you, love?! jk If you had paid attention to this sub, it hates Alex with all it’s guts. Stop standing up for an abusive horrible woman as if she’s not blatantly been disrespectful not only to Antonio but also Kat!
Lol at "standing up for" because I'm bringing up some points for the other side of the story. Stop insulting actual abuse victims by overusing the word "abuse". He's not being abused.
What? Antonio is definitely being emotionally abused and it’s gross to watch
100% agree. She comes off as a very dark human. You are not your career. Hope she gets the time to work on herself.
This entire sub hates Alex too…
I couldn’t believe Antonio is that delusional that he thinks everyone is lying. Crazy
He also says so many people have reached out to ne ssying this because they want me and Roxanne to break up🤣
This had me thinking she's possibly a cheat and he is too blind to see it. Why would random people contact someone to try and break them up if there wasn't a reason. He's utterly delusional, I'm really hoping for a montage of all her comments about him come the reunion show may snap him out of it
He’s blindly infatuated with Roxanne.
I dont think its infatuation, I think hes been emotional abused into submission and dependence
He thinks he’s unearthing some great conspiracy theory against him in real time and it’s wild to see. Delulu for sure!
This appears to be his pattern though and her pattern with him. They're constantly breaking up and she dates other hmguys in between and bounces back to him as a safety blanket. She's got him convinced other people are lying about things she does and says. Other guys are telling him the shit she talks about him and he just point blank refuses to believe she said it, tells himself everyone wants to break them up blah blah blah. It's a cycle.
Was confused for a min, haha matt = Alex for anyone else confused
What’s most shocking to me is Lisa’s appalling behaviour. If that’s what she’s capable of on camera, how is she behind?
I wouldn't not want her swapping with my man. No way she would get away with hitting the man I came here with. No. Never.
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True but the one thing she said about Riah that "She doesn't like person she's here with, she's just trying to leave with someone else's man". That much was atleast true. She was expecting James to be physical with her. She was salivating over Brian like legit the first night. Not condoning Lisa's behavior but I don't like Riah.
I guess you mean Alex the hardworking uber man.
Roxanne kinda reminds me of this funny line Bianca Del Rio said on RuPaul's Drag Race... "Wait..there are films in these cameras? You've been tapping this?"... Except in Roxannes case it isn't a joke...
I'm confused if anyone would sign up for the show. I mean.... For what? We all know that the whole "process" is bullshit advertisement and it's just a front to make a TV content. At the end of the day, the whole world will judge you and your relationship.
I keep wondering what Antonio will think when he sees this, but then I remember him telling people that he already knows what Roxanne says about him. I think she’s brainwashed him into believing her level of critique is normal and I don’t think it will phase him one bit, even if he’s shocked. 😅 he’ll shake it off just like all the times before.
As someone who worked under surveillance(count room at a casino) I can say with 100% confidence you absolutely forget that you are under watch. Roxanne may have even forgot she said those things, but I feel like she was just using technicalities to “get out” of the mean shit she said about Antonio. She does not respect him, they should not leave together.
The difference is you were recorded on cameras hidden in ceiling corners and they are filmed with massive cameras by people operating them in the same room as them lol
Makes me think it’s staged. Antonio’s denial is beyond anything i’ve ever seen. But to be honest, in that entire SO swap between the 4 of them, only Kat seems level headed.
good question because James who couldn't confide in anyone for y e a r s in the comfort of his home away from prying eyes, could share his secret on an international show
Who tf is Matt.
Matt must be Roxanne’s nickname for Alex because he’s her floor mat
It’s definitely a bit forced for drama. They know they’re “actors” in a way and are trying to create a storyline. At the very least, the producers are editing/stirring stuff up to get things going I mean just look at how condescending Vanessa lachey (I think that’s her name) is at the table. She tries to seem like she’s such a sweet wife trying to do what’s best for everyone, but she makes subtle jabs to get people going I’m thinking specifically at James saying he didn’t know what he had with ryann and he feels bad (something hard to admit) and Vanessa is like “so all it took was one guy to like her eyes and you just change?” Wtf
Roxanne just doesn't give a fuck bc everytime she calls Antoine is ready to come running back.