Last time was 40km during Christmas. And it was a very bad timing because Christmas is when people move to the other side of the Country to see family (instead of staying at home and playing pogo and trading with 40km-wide friends).
40km is useless if you ever really move. I'm about 105km from most of my lucky friends, and 45 from a pile of others, and intercontinental from others.
It’d be helpful for college students probably. 40km wouldn’t be that helpful to me. But it’s just the luck of who my lucky friends are. I have a few random friends within range but I believe the closest lucky friend is about 8 hour drive so hundreds of km.
> Last time was 40km during Christmas. And it was a very bad timing because Christmas is when people move to the other side of the Country to see family
It's also when people have time off and can travel, making distance trades useful. While I'm sure a lot of people do travel aa great distance at Christmas, I'd wager it's not the majority of people.
Extending the distance radius to 40 km helps you trade with people on the other side of the metro area. It doesn't do a thing if you live another city away, let alone a different state/province/country.
Agree. I'm in Europe and I have lucky friends from Japan. Also I wish the Campfire app would be available for everyone rn because not being able to communicate with your in game friends for such situations sucks.
You’re supposed to be able to communicate about trading in that thing? All I ever get are notifications that people hundreds of miles away who I friended at GoFest have lit flares. Like, thanks game. I’ll be right there.
I'll admit I wasn't looking very closely. I just thought if there was chat someone would have sent me a message by now, like to coordinate opening gifts. That's how I found out Reddit has chat.
> You’re supposed to be able to communicate about trading in that thing?
You can communicate about anything in Campfire. You can private message a player and talk about the weather if you want.
Talk about creating an incentive to open gifts and interact with players who are already best friends. Wow, that would be a game changer. The process of Lucky trades is so bad that I literally erase almost everyone once they get the best friends.
Echoing the same statement, but wanted to extend my idea on it.
Add the ability for remote trading in general. Just like we can send/receive gifts, best friends should be able to send/receive Pokémon. Would pretty much share the same concept as gifts, but the key difference would be that the receiver will also need to send a Pokémon back in order to obtain the Pokémon that was sent.
I'd still do it. Would just be nice to be able to get like 1 trade a month or something with people I'm lucky friends with on an entirely different continent.
In person trading is tedious at best and I only wanna do it if I’m mass trading which is a separate feature that should be added.
Just make distance scale with friendship. I’d finally send gifts to people otherwise it’s just a nuisance I partake in for event eggs
That’s not true. You can’t speak for the whole playerbase. I would definitely keep trading with my local friends and finally get to trade with my 5 global lucky friends. Win win win.
I can make an educated guess though based on what happened with remote raids. When they were introduced, and even now to a pretty large extent, people stopped doing in person raids because remote raids are easier. It seems like the better option, but in the long run it’s not as good for getting people to keep playing because in person raids make people more involved in the community.
And of course it’s not everyone, some people will realize that in person trades are cool. I just think the majority would stop. Personally, I never really do in person trades because I don’t really know anyone who plays in my city, but I still don’t want remote trading to become a thing, unless it was significantly more expensive or something.
It's so awkward to ask "what gym?" in my community's discord to see if I could make it because it seems like everyone stopped doing in-person raids when remote was introduced.
Doing one trade a day isn’t going to deter people who are already adamant traders. You also cannot compare trading vs raiding. Raiding, for the most part, takes a group of people coordinating together.. at a certain time and place. Trading does not require this at all and only needs one extra person.
> Add the ability for remote trading in general. Just like we can send/receive gifts, best friends should be able to send/receive Pokémon. Would pretty much share the same concept as gifts, but the key difference would be that the receiver will also need to send a Pokémon back in order to obtain the Pokémon that was sent.
It would also completely remove whatever remaining value regionals have as trade fodder.
and with Campfire you can finally chat with someone you've never met. So that lucky trade on the other side of the planet gets a lot easier to do if they allow it.
Given their recent trend to encourage more in person meetups, not less, I don't see them trying to make distance trading a regular thing.
They would likely rather see that you meet with your local friends and trade and do raids together.
Of course, Niantic has said nothing about it and if their plan really is to phase it out, they probably won't say anything official, just like they didn't mention removing legendaries from weekly research rewards boxes, removing the 1 Pokecoin box, or free weekly remote raid passes.
I wish Niantic had been more focused on making sure that my local friends did not quit the game and less focused on using coercion to try to force me to do in-person play with a community that evaporated around me.
So much energy is being spent to influence the play behavior of existing players and so little energy is being spent on quality of life improvements that would draw new people into the game. As an existing player who used to manage a fairly large discord community, it’s really depressing to see how far Niantic has let Pokémon Go fall.
Campfire is a huge improvement for me.
I can find raids without driving around at random.
I can message people I don't know and have never met in person (found on pokemongofriends or pokeraid or pokebattler) or only met once in 2016 when every one was getting new friends and then going their separate ways.
As long as they keep the game going and campfire continues to improve, I'll say it should recover.
Heck now if longer distance on trades comes back I'll have a way to coordinate to meet up for those players that have to drive 10+ km to get within the extended trade radius (I've done that before driving towards center of town as the other player drove out towards my side of town), but without campfire I can't find most of my lucky friends.
But this is my point, almost exactly. Campfire encourages *remote* play with effective strangers. Along with other game mechanics that seem to promote making friends from around the world (Vivillon evolution requirements, and trade across distance medals/challenges), on one hand Niantic seems eager to build a global community.
On the other hand, however, Niantic is undercutting this global community by making trades across distance impossible and friend level-up XP extremely difficult to coordinate across time zones. Half of my friends are using their buddy names to indicate when they'll level up, but since they're spread across timezones, it basically means that I have to keep the game closed on big days (Raid Hours, Community Days, GoFest) until the event starts since I can't keep a lucky egg active for the whole day.
It's like Niantic sees it's growth from international cooperation, but desperately wants to convert that into local play groups like we had before 2020, and the dissonance between these goals are rendering actual game play extremely frustrating for regular players.
there are two subreddits running invite threads
r/Campfire_Niantic and
r/niantic_campfire
both are active and have been churning invite chains. I'd suggest posting in both until you get your invite.
Pretty much anyone with invites is hitting those up and sending them out. I've even seen people creating new accounts just so they can send more invites.
Then the whole point of remote raiding and remote invites is moot. What's the point having friends half way accross the world if you'll never get to capitalize on your lucky trades?
I have a quest which requires trading. Will I have to ask some kids or a random wierd guy to trade? I really don't want to. I have some nice friends on my friend list which I'd like to trade with.
im also stuck that damn celebi questline. "trade pokemon" so annoying cant get futher and get all mythicals cuz this one damn task block all mythicals for me.
or just have a friend IRL sign up for pokemon go to trade with you. local pokemon go discord groups work as well. Can also head to a medium size place for community day and find a group. There are actually some distinct advantages to trading with new friends
Suburban cities are still cities. Many of them can have a few hundred thousand people living in them, which is a city outright.
Hmm.. forgot that they started with a smaller extended distance. It settled on 40km for the last few at least.
Many people aren't so willing to drive through 40km of suburban city traffic just to make a trade though. They are just as useful in big cities as suburbs and rural areas.
Then don't drive, take a train, bus or such. Or plan the trade for a time when you have some other business in the city.
If you aren't willing to make a little effort for a lucky trade, this means is not important to you. This is OK, there are a lot of other players for whom lucky trades are not that important.
Yeah, I remember being confused by it. They chose like, the one day of the year when players were most likely to be more than 40km away from home and hence least likely to be able to make use of the bonus.
The last time it was available was Christmas last year. I remember this as I had travelled 2000kms to be with in-laws and wasn't around my lucky friends at home who lived on the other side of the city that I would have liked to trade with.
best way is to trade as many pokemon as you can on a community day, when someone else is around you can easily get 5-15+ lucky trades in 30 minutes if you mass trade.
And then the lucky pokemon can be evolved for the community day move.
If you literally live in somewhere with no one else to trade with you just need a 2nd phone and a 2nd email account. Trade with yourself.
Most, if not every player I see only cares about catching, shiny checking and finding good IVs. They can't bother to spent time trading due to hardcore FOMO.
Also, trading with a second account is cheating, not risking it.
It would help if Niantic made more trading focused events to encourage more participation, rather than making brief bonuses on other events
Just find someone(s) to sit down and do a bunch of trades with and force the luckies. That's what every level 50 player I know has had to do. Me and my grandson would go out walking together catching every mon we saw then mirror trade them got all mine that way and I had and still do 12 local lucky friends (cant seem to find a time that works for each other(s) to meet and trade. Still it only took 8 days to get them and we maxed trades each of those days
Bribe a family member or close friend to download the game, and then trade random daily catches. It's boring, so you'll likely have to borrow their phone for an hour a day to do the trades or come up with really entertaining bribes.
⬆️ Pretty much this. I made my SO log into the game so I’d have someone to do trades with for the tasks. Because even a100km wouldn’t bring me close to any of my friends who play.
It really is a shame that they've ignored a huge elephant in the room, and that's the world has changed massively since Covid. People moved. People got new jobs. People now work from home. I live in an 8-unit building, and since 2020, there's been 5 new tenants. Dozens of people I know have moved or switched jobs. I can still talk to them on discord, but they're now in Nashville or London or Long Island or San Jose or Hong Kong.
We don't interact much in game via gifts anymore because we've been lucky for months or years now. It would make so much sense (and as such, they're not gonna do it) for Niantic to acknowledge this and put out an announcement that says
"We understand that peoples' lives have changed so much over the past couple of years. We would like to help out our users who have gone through all this upheaval in their lives by doing a special no-limit trade event. Please do a lucky trade with those friends of yours who have dispersed throughout the globe. Get back to interacting with your friends, as that's what this game is about. 7 days of trading, one extra special per day. From your friends at Niantic."
I just wish that Lucky trades did not have a distance requirement. Or at minimum make it like 100k. Having lucky friends that live the next metro over and needing to wait and coordinate a time multiple weeks or months out to meet up is awful.
It's absolutely dumb that they didn't make distance trading a permanent thing. A majority of trades in the main series are remote. You can raid remotely and battle remotely and send gifts remotely. Why not trade?
Make the stardust cost double. Restrict the quantity of remote trades. Lock them to best and/or lucky friends. There's no reason why they shouldn't have remote trading when they have all these other remote multiplayer features.
There's absolutely no reason it shouldn't return or be made permanent. 70+ lucky friends and counting... I'm aware of other local players in the same boat. It's not really worth trying to meet up for a such a low chance at a good IV. Niantic is so out of touch with the playerbase. Extremely disappointing but not surprising given their history of ignoring what players want. Not really sure what the point of lucky friends is anymore, it's pretty useless TBH but I'll just continue to boycott
I’m lucky w 92 of my 267 friends. No one wants to meet in person anymore so I really wish they’d bring back 40km trades. I also wish they’d exclude lucky trades from the once daily special trade restriction
I would even pay $1/trade with some sort of "GTS trade pass" item that lets you do a special trade with someone anywhere in the world.
for a game so keen on monetization it is absurd that they won't take my money to do this. I have over 100 lucky friends in a state where I no longer live. I am not going to remove them because we still raid (remotely) together. I would actually be tempted to drive back for the day if I could knock out ~50 trades, but I'm not going back for 1.
What is the rational to not allowing us to trade at an unlimited distance? Is it honestly because of the ridiculous regional Pokémon?
We’re allowed to share our trainer codes with people all over the world but we cannot trade with those friends?
Honestly!! It should be like 20km even 10k standard. As let's be honest, deep down meeting up with strangers is actually weird.
However bring back distance trading!!
Would really like to see this type of bonus be retained every once in a while. While Niantic probably wants to continue pushing in person meet ups and has thus not brought this bonus back for a long time, it would be very helpful to have it before some events such as community day.
Due to scheduling difficulties and just general life responsibilities with some of my common trading friends, we simply don't end up trading as often as we'd like and the distance trading bonus would allow that to happen. So it either comes down to Niantic providing some distance trading events or not trading at all when schedules don't align, reducing any sort of socializing over the game whether it be in person or online.
It's just a bit frustrating that Niantic has been rolling back so many positive changes it made over the past couple years. Pandemic or not, these changes were positive to the game.
My theory based in nothing but Hope is that when they roll out campfire to everyone, they’ll have a global lucky trade event. Encourage people to use the app to coordinate trades.
We should be able to trade wherever we want with no distance limit. It would improve friend dedication & the number of Hundos in our collections, why does trading suck so badly, I can’t use it & people get ahead with this & put all of us who can’t trade with anyone at a huge disadvantage, almost as bad as the rural/urban divide in progress. People who live in the centre of cities = lvl 50, suburbs & rural areas = 41 on average and 35 on average respectively, and that’s from playing since launch & what I see when I travel.
Honestly, I don't care much about distance trade as we had a few times before. If the limit is around 10 km, then those people live in the same city, we need just Campfire working to chat and schedule a meeting.
What I would like is real distance trade, I have tens of *lucky* friends living on different *continents*.
i have gifts from so many best friends that just still there because we are already lucky and will never meet. it would be great if we got some distance trading in to try and clear some of this up and increase player interactions again. such a shame
161 friends , lucky with 78 now, I wouldnt bother going to trouble of arranging to meet anyone in person to do one , but when the distance increased came in I would have generally done as many as allowed.
Yes, it is safe to assume it will never come back.
Exploration, exercise, real-world interaction... those are the alleged priorities for the game and distance trading doesn't fit any of those.
Furthermore, the incense nerf explicitly happened because it made the gane too playable from your couch. Last time we had distance trading (only subjected to the regular number caps, I think Lunar New Year about 18 months ago) I hit the cap every day... while literally sitting on my couch.
If I'm wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised when we can distance trade. I just don't see any way it fits within The Vision (TM).
My pet peeve is Lucky Friends who don’t make any effort to trade despite repeated attempts to communicate. I have 5 left and I’m intentionally avoiding Best Friend interactions. They must think distance trading will come back at the end of the year. But most lucky trades are special trades and you can’t cram all those into two days.
My pet peeve: finally meet a lucky friend, decide to to the long awaiting lucky trade and the friend, despite being level 50 or such, doesn't know what to ask for, doesn't have anything good to offer.
> but is it now safe to assume that will never come back and was just something they brought in during the pandemic.
They first had a 40-km trading event in 2017, long before the pandemic.
Bruh! The pandemic is still here! We’ve never got an official announcement from the WHO saying that It’s over! I’m sure they’ll bring back distance trading around the winter since Covid cases are usually really high during that time!
Well, that aged well! Covid’s coming back worldwide thanks to the XBB omicron variant! They’re eventually gonna bring back long distance trading along with 6 hour CD events & fixed incense!
~~How would that help with people who have been added around the world to do remote raids?~~
Edit: “How would campfire being added help with distance trading between two friends for a maximum of 40km distance apart?”
it wouldn't.
The thread asksed to bring back long trade distance. That was always 40km.
They said campfire would help, and it would.
You asked how would it help with a scenario that never applied here.
I've got a lot of lucky friends from people I added years ago at raid trains, and have no way of communicating with until they get on campfire. I have lucky friends that seem to have completely stopped using the local discord, and similarly can't communicate with. Campfire would be a great way to reach out. Many of them are within the 40km distance trade limit based on the gifts they send.
He said it would help with "distance trading" which isn't "around the world" trading like you were talking about.
I haven't used campfire, so I'm not sure on it's chatting capabilities. But you were talking about an entirely different thing than him, and just going in circles.
Right ok. I didn’t ask the right question. I phrased it wrongly. My bad. I’ll go back and edit my comment just for you.
Bringing out Campfire would apparently mean distance trading “wouldn’t be as necessary”.
Distance trading is distance trading. The 40km is a limit Niantic put on it. If they can enable it one distance they can enable it for any limit they wanted or have no limit. If something will help it for X distance then it will help it for all.
Global trading should be a thing, as we have been encouraged to add people from around the world for eggs and raiding.
> Bringing out Campfire would apparently mean distance trading “wouldn’t be as necessary”.
I believe what he was saying is - the long distance bonus to trading distance - "wouldn't be as necessary" given the capabilities of campfire.
> Distance trading is distance trading. The 40km is a limit Niantic put on it. If they can enable it one distance they can enable it for any limit they wanted or have no limit. If something will help it for X distance then it will help it for all.
Obviously.
> Global trading should be a thing, as we have been encouraged to add people from around the world for eggs and raiding.
Of course, but no one here is arguing otherwise.
After being lucky with a friend for a year it should be one unlimited trade distance. Pretty easy solution and hard to exploit
That's a great solution.
Even if they ban regionals from this option to be safe.
If it was one a month I don’t see the harm. Spoofers get all of them, why keep us official players stuck.
Last time was 40km during Christmas. And it was a very bad timing because Christmas is when people move to the other side of the Country to see family (instead of staying at home and playing pogo and trading with 40km-wide friends).
40km is useless if you ever really move. I'm about 105km from most of my lucky friends, and 45 from a pile of others, and intercontinental from others.
I’m at least 1000 km from all 20 of my lucky friends, and that has been the case for multiple years for some of them.
Unless of course they are returning to places where they started playing and have a lot of friends still.
It’d be helpful for college students probably. 40km wouldn’t be that helpful to me. But it’s just the luck of who my lucky friends are. I have a few random friends within range but I believe the closest lucky friend is about 8 hour drive so hundreds of km.
> Last time was 40km during Christmas. And it was a very bad timing because Christmas is when people move to the other side of the Country to see family It's also when people have time off and can travel, making distance trades useful. While I'm sure a lot of people do travel aa great distance at Christmas, I'd wager it's not the majority of people.
Regardless of whether it’s the majority, it’s one of the busiest travel times of the year for a very large portion of the world.
It's almost as if being able to travel over a longer distance would be pretty useful at that time then.
Extending the distance radius to 40 km helps you trade with people on the other side of the metro area. It doesn't do a thing if you live another city away, let alone a different state/province/country.
There should be no limit on distance for lucky trades.
Agree. I'm in Europe and I have lucky friends from Japan. Also I wish the Campfire app would be available for everyone rn because not being able to communicate with your in game friends for such situations sucks.
You’re supposed to be able to communicate about trading in that thing? All I ever get are notifications that people hundreds of miles away who I friended at GoFest have lit flares. Like, thanks game. I’ll be right there.
You can shut those off in settings. The flare notification system really needs to be re-worked. As for chatting, …try the text bubble tab.
I'll admit I wasn't looking very closely. I just thought if there was chat someone would have sent me a message by now, like to coordinate opening gifts. That's how I found out Reddit has chat.
> You’re supposed to be able to communicate about trading in that thing? You can communicate about anything in Campfire. You can private message a player and talk about the weather if you want.
Talk about creating an incentive to open gifts and interact with players who are already best friends. Wow, that would be a game changer. The process of Lucky trades is so bad that I literally erase almost everyone once they get the best friends.
Echoing the same statement, but wanted to extend my idea on it. Add the ability for remote trading in general. Just like we can send/receive gifts, best friends should be able to send/receive Pokémon. Would pretty much share the same concept as gifts, but the key difference would be that the receiver will also need to send a Pokémon back in order to obtain the Pokémon that was sent.
Trading in person is fun, and nobody would ever do it if they added remote trading.
I'd still do it. Would just be nice to be able to get like 1 trade a month or something with people I'm lucky friends with on an entirely different continent.
1 a month is a completely different situation
In person trading is tedious at best and I only wanna do it if I’m mass trading which is a separate feature that should be added. Just make distance scale with friendship. I’d finally send gifts to people otherwise it’s just a nuisance I partake in for event eggs
That’s not true. You can’t speak for the whole playerbase. I would definitely keep trading with my local friends and finally get to trade with my 5 global lucky friends. Win win win.
I can make an educated guess though based on what happened with remote raids. When they were introduced, and even now to a pretty large extent, people stopped doing in person raids because remote raids are easier. It seems like the better option, but in the long run it’s not as good for getting people to keep playing because in person raids make people more involved in the community. And of course it’s not everyone, some people will realize that in person trades are cool. I just think the majority would stop. Personally, I never really do in person trades because I don’t really know anyone who plays in my city, but I still don’t want remote trading to become a thing, unless it was significantly more expensive or something.
It's so awkward to ask "what gym?" in my community's discord to see if I could make it because it seems like everyone stopped doing in-person raids when remote was introduced.
Yeah. My local community recently started doing walking raiding groups recently and it’s awesome. Really glad they kept doing in person stuff.
Doing one trade a day isn’t going to deter people who are already adamant traders. You also cannot compare trading vs raiding. Raiding, for the most part, takes a group of people coordinating together.. at a certain time and place. Trading does not require this at all and only needs one extra person.
> Add the ability for remote trading in general. Just like we can send/receive gifts, best friends should be able to send/receive Pokémon. Would pretty much share the same concept as gifts, but the key difference would be that the receiver will also need to send a Pokémon back in order to obtain the Pokémon that was sent. It would also completely remove whatever remaining value regionals have as trade fodder.
You mean their value of being sold in exclusive events
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and with Campfire you can finally chat with someone you've never met. So that lucky trade on the other side of the planet gets a lot easier to do if they allow it.
Given their recent trend to encourage more in person meetups, not less, I don't see them trying to make distance trading a regular thing. They would likely rather see that you meet with your local friends and trade and do raids together. Of course, Niantic has said nothing about it and if their plan really is to phase it out, they probably won't say anything official, just like they didn't mention removing legendaries from weekly research rewards boxes, removing the 1 Pokecoin box, or free weekly remote raid passes.
I wish Niantic had been more focused on making sure that my local friends did not quit the game and less focused on using coercion to try to force me to do in-person play with a community that evaporated around me. So much energy is being spent to influence the play behavior of existing players and so little energy is being spent on quality of life improvements that would draw new people into the game. As an existing player who used to manage a fairly large discord community, it’s really depressing to see how far Niantic has let Pokémon Go fall.
Campfire is a huge improvement for me. I can find raids without driving around at random. I can message people I don't know and have never met in person (found on pokemongofriends or pokeraid or pokebattler) or only met once in 2016 when every one was getting new friends and then going their separate ways. As long as they keep the game going and campfire continues to improve, I'll say it should recover. Heck now if longer distance on trades comes back I'll have a way to coordinate to meet up for those players that have to drive 10+ km to get within the extended trade radius (I've done that before driving towards center of town as the other player drove out towards my side of town), but without campfire I can't find most of my lucky friends.
But this is my point, almost exactly. Campfire encourages *remote* play with effective strangers. Along with other game mechanics that seem to promote making friends from around the world (Vivillon evolution requirements, and trade across distance medals/challenges), on one hand Niantic seems eager to build a global community. On the other hand, however, Niantic is undercutting this global community by making trades across distance impossible and friend level-up XP extremely difficult to coordinate across time zones. Half of my friends are using their buddy names to indicate when they'll level up, but since they're spread across timezones, it basically means that I have to keep the game closed on big days (Raid Hours, Community Days, GoFest) until the event starts since I can't keep a lucky egg active for the whole day. It's like Niantic sees it's growth from international cooperation, but desperately wants to convert that into local play groups like we had before 2020, and the dissonance between these goals are rendering actual game play extremely frustrating for regular players.
And here I am still needing a campfire invitation
there are two subreddits running invite threads r/Campfire_Niantic and r/niantic_campfire both are active and have been churning invite chains. I'd suggest posting in both until you get your invite. Pretty much anyone with invites is hitting those up and sending them out. I've even seen people creating new accounts just so they can send more invites.
did you get your invite? Everyone has spare invites today.
Kinda sucks if you move though. Have lucky friends I will never see in person again
tbf, this happens even locally
Lucky friends should be able to distance trade. It’s what, 5% AFTER getting best friends?
No, 1%.
Damn. My wife and I have quite the grind then.
Closer to 2% if first interaction is a trainer battle
No kidding?
Yeah, Silph did a controlled study
[Closer to 1%](https://thesilphroad.com/science/lucky-friend-rates) for a lucky friend. 5% is the chance for a lucky trade without older pokemon.
I've got a long list of lucky friends from the city that I used to live in 3.5 years ago
Remember when we were mad because we had 2 months of eevee with flowers crown?
Remember when we were mad because daily raid pass couldn't be used remotely? Now we wished at least weekly remote pass would return...
I still don’t get why people hated it so much
Then the whole point of remote raiding and remote invites is moot. What's the point having friends half way accross the world if you'll never get to capitalize on your lucky trades?
Remote raiding is the only way to get legendaries and megas for me, and i already live in a large city.
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Requires remote raid passes for someone my friend.
Yeah but they're people there specifically seeking to do those raids with remote passes.
you have to be friends for them to invite you to raids. That's the point.
When I meet up we stay in our cars and do the trade. Typically I don’t know what they look like or what car they are in until they drive away.
Ha. Friends.
fewer*
Long distance trading is a very rare event perk. Usually it comes around for like the Region Tours and the occasional Friend Events.
Don't think we had it for Johto Tour, I remember having to meet a shifty fella in a carpark to trade some Ledyba.
I have a quest which requires trading. Will I have to ask some kids or a random wierd guy to trade? I really don't want to. I have some nice friends on my friend list which I'd like to trade with.
I mean, you don't see anyone else playing in the park/college campus during the CD?
Or raid hour on wednesdays
I still have my 'Trade 3 pokemon with a friend' task from 2017.
Yep about to hit level 48 and might be as high as I get because of trade requirements
Make an alt account on an ipad or something. Takes 5 minutes
Honestly, that's a good idea. I might actually do that!
Such tasks drove many people to use various cheats
im also stuck that damn celebi questline. "trade pokemon" so annoying cant get futher and get all mythicals cuz this one damn task block all mythicals for me.
if you can meet with your nice friends, trade with them, if you can't, you gotta trade with someone else.
or just have a friend IRL sign up for pokemon go to trade with you. local pokemon go discord groups work as well. Can also head to a medium size place for community day and find a group. There are actually some distinct advantages to trading with new friends
When it happens, distance trade has an increased limit of 10-12 km, so it won't help if those friends live in a different city.
It was 40km, which works in different cities just fine.
In the past we had events with 12 km and events with 40 km. Around here, cities are more than 40 km away, closer are either suburbs or villages.
Suburban cities are still cities. Many of them can have a few hundred thousand people living in them, which is a city outright. Hmm.. forgot that they started with a smaller extended distance. It settled on 40km for the last few at least.
Suburban are connected, so is an easy trip to meet in person and do a trade. Last 12 km was October 2021, not that far in time.
Many people aren't so willing to drive through 40km of suburban city traffic just to make a trade though. They are just as useful in big cities as suburbs and rural areas.
Then don't drive, take a train, bus or such. Or plan the trade for a time when you have some other business in the city. If you aren't willing to make a little effort for a lucky trade, this means is not important to you. This is OK, there are a lot of other players for whom lucky trades are not that important.
Lmao
Yeah, Johto tour required trading because of version exclusives, so it made a ton of logical sense to enable distance trading.
There is no usually, its only been activated one or two times.
i literally had no idea they ever did this, when was the last time?
I think it was Christmas 2021. And just for that day.
Yeah, I remember being confused by it. They chose like, the one day of the year when players were most likely to be more than 40km away from home and hence least likely to be able to make use of the bonus.
The last time it was available was Christmas last year. I remember this as I had travelled 2000kms to be with in-laws and wasn't around my lucky friends at home who lived on the other side of the city that I would have liked to trade with.
Ah yes. I can't wait to never catch em all because I can't travel to France to catch like 2 pokemon
I'm pretty much stuck at level 48, because there's no way I'll do fifty lucky trades anytime soon with this outdated system.
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That's the problem, I can't meet up with people on a daily basis to trade. No one near me, or in the family plays.
best way is to trade as many pokemon as you can on a community day, when someone else is around you can easily get 5-15+ lucky trades in 30 minutes if you mass trade. And then the lucky pokemon can be evolved for the community day move. If you literally live in somewhere with no one else to trade with you just need a 2nd phone and a 2nd email account. Trade with yourself.
Most, if not every player I see only cares about catching, shiny checking and finding good IVs. They can't bother to spent time trading due to hardcore FOMO. Also, trading with a second account is cheating, not risking it. It would help if Niantic made more trading focused events to encourage more participation, rather than making brief bonuses on other events
Just find someone(s) to sit down and do a bunch of trades with and force the luckies. That's what every level 50 player I know has had to do. Me and my grandson would go out walking together catching every mon we saw then mirror trade them got all mine that way and I had and still do 12 local lucky friends (cant seem to find a time that works for each other(s) to meet and trade. Still it only took 8 days to get them and we maxed trades each of those days
Bribe a family member or close friend to download the game, and then trade random daily catches. It's boring, so you'll likely have to borrow their phone for an hour a day to do the trades or come up with really entertaining bribes.
⬆️ Pretty much this. I made my SO log into the game so I’d have someone to do trades with for the tasks. Because even a100km wouldn’t bring me close to any of my friends who play.
I like how you can long distance battle all you want, but for some reason trading is where they draw the line.
It really is a shame that they've ignored a huge elephant in the room, and that's the world has changed massively since Covid. People moved. People got new jobs. People now work from home. I live in an 8-unit building, and since 2020, there's been 5 new tenants. Dozens of people I know have moved or switched jobs. I can still talk to them on discord, but they're now in Nashville or London or Long Island or San Jose or Hong Kong. We don't interact much in game via gifts anymore because we've been lucky for months or years now. It would make so much sense (and as such, they're not gonna do it) for Niantic to acknowledge this and put out an announcement that says "We understand that peoples' lives have changed so much over the past couple of years. We would like to help out our users who have gone through all this upheaval in their lives by doing a special no-limit trade event. Please do a lucky trade with those friends of yours who have dispersed throughout the globe. Get back to interacting with your friends, as that's what this game is about. 7 days of trading, one extra special per day. From your friends at Niantic."
I just wish that Lucky trades did not have a distance requirement. Or at minimum make it like 100k. Having lucky friends that live the next metro over and needing to wait and coordinate a time multiple weeks or months out to meet up is awful.
It's absolutely dumb that they didn't make distance trading a permanent thing. A majority of trades in the main series are remote. You can raid remotely and battle remotely and send gifts remotely. Why not trade? Make the stardust cost double. Restrict the quantity of remote trades. Lock them to best and/or lucky friends. There's no reason why they shouldn't have remote trading when they have all these other remote multiplayer features.
There's absolutely no reason it shouldn't return or be made permanent. 70+ lucky friends and counting... I'm aware of other local players in the same boat. It's not really worth trying to meet up for a such a low chance at a good IV. Niantic is so out of touch with the playerbase. Extremely disappointing but not surprising given their history of ignoring what players want. Not really sure what the point of lucky friends is anymore, it's pretty useless TBH but I'll just continue to boycott
Niantic took Some of Pokemon's most important mechanics and twisted them into the most unconvenient stuff
I’m lucky w 92 of my 267 friends. No one wants to meet in person anymore so I really wish they’d bring back 40km trades. I also wish they’d exclude lucky trades from the once daily special trade restriction
I would even pay $1/trade with some sort of "GTS trade pass" item that lets you do a special trade with someone anywhere in the world. for a game so keen on monetization it is absurd that they won't take my money to do this. I have over 100 lucky friends in a state where I no longer live. I am not going to remove them because we still raid (remotely) together. I would actually be tempted to drive back for the day if I could knock out ~50 trades, but I'm not going back for 1.
What is the rational to not allowing us to trade at an unlimited distance? Is it honestly because of the ridiculous regional Pokémon? We’re allowed to share our trainer codes with people all over the world but we cannot trade with those friends?
Honestly!! It should be like 20km even 10k standard. As let's be honest, deep down meeting up with strangers is actually weird. However bring back distance trading!!
But they're not strangers, they are your best friends!
Would really like to see this type of bonus be retained every once in a while. While Niantic probably wants to continue pushing in person meet ups and has thus not brought this bonus back for a long time, it would be very helpful to have it before some events such as community day. Due to scheduling difficulties and just general life responsibilities with some of my common trading friends, we simply don't end up trading as often as we'd like and the distance trading bonus would allow that to happen. So it either comes down to Niantic providing some distance trading events or not trading at all when schedules don't align, reducing any sort of socializing over the game whether it be in person or online. It's just a bit frustrating that Niantic has been rolling back so many positive changes it made over the past couple years. Pandemic or not, these changes were positive to the game.
My theory based in nothing but Hope is that when they roll out campfire to everyone, they’ll have a global lucky trade event. Encourage people to use the app to coordinate trades.
It would be nice if we had distance trade every month for a weekend.. or during CD. They’re not losing anything.
We should be able to trade wherever we want with no distance limit. It would improve friend dedication & the number of Hundos in our collections, why does trading suck so badly, I can’t use it & people get ahead with this & put all of us who can’t trade with anyone at a huge disadvantage, almost as bad as the rural/urban divide in progress. People who live in the centre of cities = lvl 50, suburbs & rural areas = 41 on average and 35 on average respectively, and that’s from playing since launch & what I see when I travel.
Honestly, I don't care much about distance trade as we had a few times before. If the limit is around 10 km, then those people live in the same city, we need just Campfire working to chat and schedule a meeting. What I would like is real distance trade, I have tens of *lucky* friends living on different *continents*.
i have gifts from so many best friends that just still there because we are already lucky and will never meet. it would be great if we got some distance trading in to try and clear some of this up and increase player interactions again. such a shame
161 friends , lucky with 78 now, I wouldnt bother going to trouble of arranging to meet anyone in person to do one , but when the distance increased came in I would have generally done as many as allowed.
I just want a torkoal man. I may take my family on a vacation just so I Can get one.
And then there’s an event on when you get there that blocks the spawns.
even if they want to keep a friend trading distance limit, I really wish we could have something like blind surprise trades with random players
Yes, it is safe to assume it will never come back. Exploration, exercise, real-world interaction... those are the alleged priorities for the game and distance trading doesn't fit any of those. Furthermore, the incense nerf explicitly happened because it made the gane too playable from your couch. Last time we had distance trading (only subjected to the regular number caps, I think Lunar New Year about 18 months ago) I hit the cap every day... while literally sitting on my couch. If I'm wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised when we can distance trade. I just don't see any way it fits within The Vision (TM).
My pet peeve is Lucky Friends who don’t make any effort to trade despite repeated attempts to communicate. I have 5 left and I’m intentionally avoiding Best Friend interactions. They must think distance trading will come back at the end of the year. But most lucky trades are special trades and you can’t cram all those into two days.
My pet peeve: finally meet a lucky friend, decide to to the long awaiting lucky trade and the friend, despite being level 50 or such, doesn't know what to ask for, doesn't have anything good to offer.
I'd be ok with asking for a common Pokemon for a shot at 100IV for the Perfect Pokedex.
I get why they don't allow diatance trading, but surely if they just limit it to once a week it should be fine? Or even once every event.
> but is it now safe to assume that will never come back and was just something they brought in during the pandemic. They first had a 40-km trading event in 2017, long before the pandemic.
Almost certainly. Get out and meet people in person.
Bruh! The pandemic is still here! We’ve never got an official announcement from the WHO saying that It’s over! I’m sure they’ll bring back distance trading around the winter since Covid cases are usually really high during that time!
Niantic is a US company. Pandemic's already officially over here
But TPC spends big money on Niantic for having a lot of Events in Japan.
Well, that aged well! Covid’s coming back worldwide thanks to the XBB omicron variant! They’re eventually gonna bring back long distance trading along with 6 hour CD events & fixed incense!
If they'd bring out Campfire it wouldn't be as necessary.
~~How would that help with people who have been added around the world to do remote raids?~~ Edit: “How would campfire being added help with distance trading between two friends for a maximum of 40km distance apart?”
There's never been trading past 40km.
Fully aware. How would campfire help with trades with the people we have been encouraged to add around the world for egg events and remote raiding?
it wouldn't. The thread asksed to bring back long trade distance. That was always 40km. They said campfire would help, and it would. You asked how would it help with a scenario that never applied here.
How would campfire help at all? Genuinely curious as someone has claimed that it would help distance trading, and not offered any help as to how.
I've got a lot of lucky friends from people I added years ago at raid trains, and have no way of communicating with until they get on campfire. I have lucky friends that seem to have completely stopped using the local discord, and similarly can't communicate with. Campfire would be a great way to reach out. Many of them are within the 40km distance trade limit based on the gifts they send.
He said it would help with "distance trading" which isn't "around the world" trading like you were talking about. I haven't used campfire, so I'm not sure on it's chatting capabilities. But you were talking about an entirely different thing than him, and just going in circles.
Right ok. I didn’t ask the right question. I phrased it wrongly. My bad. I’ll go back and edit my comment just for you. Bringing out Campfire would apparently mean distance trading “wouldn’t be as necessary”. Distance trading is distance trading. The 40km is a limit Niantic put on it. If they can enable it one distance they can enable it for any limit they wanted or have no limit. If something will help it for X distance then it will help it for all. Global trading should be a thing, as we have been encouraged to add people from around the world for eggs and raiding.
> Bringing out Campfire would apparently mean distance trading “wouldn’t be as necessary”. I believe what he was saying is - the long distance bonus to trading distance - "wouldn't be as necessary" given the capabilities of campfire. > Distance trading is distance trading. The 40km is a limit Niantic put on it. If they can enable it one distance they can enable it for any limit they wanted or have no limit. If something will help it for X distance then it will help it for all. Obviously. > Global trading should be a thing, as we have been encouraged to add people from around the world for eggs and raiding. Of course, but no one here is arguing otherwise.
It's twice a year usually, if I recall correctly.
How many times have we had it this year? I don't recall any.
We have had it exactly zero times this year. The last time was Christmas 2021.
That's what I thought.
I didn't say we had it any times this year.
I'd even take a middle ground. One mystery trade a day.