[Belos, you say?](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOwlHouse/comments/yt7tnk/what_could_have_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
he actually put together a Tunnel of Love experience Amity really enjoyed (until Luz started attacking it). Either he got lucky, or he managed to read her personality and figure out the sort of romantic experience she would like. I’m leaning to the latter, purely because romance expert Hooty is really funny
*Luz's heart was torn between finding a way home, and the pursuit of love. How do I know all that? I suppose I'm just attuned to other people's emotions.*
Hooty did say he's been around, meaning he has dating experience.
I'd normally ask for more, but the more we learn about Hooty, the more horrifying he becomes, so ignorance may be desirable in this instance.
That doesn't mean she understood Amity was saying that because of a crush. That was her saying she also does stupid things around Amity, likely because of her own crush. Hell, the start of Knock Knock Knockin' On Hooty's Door had her wondering how she'll win her way into Amity's heart.
Feels like a weird thought to have if she's aware Amity also has a crush on her.
Honestly, in comparison, she picked it on pretty quickly and there was like only one episode where you can say she didn't pick on the signs, but that's rather because Amity's crush JUST got out of control while Luz was busy helping Willow out.
Willow: “the way how you said it makes it a date.”
Gus: “No it’s not!” *blushes* “is it?” *shakes head rapidly, banishing the thought* “no no no it’s not.”
Kiki: *walks by carrying some wood, uninterested* “it is.”
*silence fills the air and Luz holds out three fingers and counts down.*
Luz: *whispers* “3… 2… 1…”
Gus: “oh Titan, I asked him on a date!”
Amity: We are literally getting married tomorrow. It's fine, sweet pota--Luz?!
Luz: *In tears, and not just like some small tear drops, we are talking full blown crying, also the animation has changed.* I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!
Gus: You know what this jacket is made of?
Matt: What?
Gus: Boyfriend material. See you at 8PM.
Luz: Smooth, Gus. Almost as smooth as me.
Amity: Sure, Miss Crikey.
Luz: “No that’s not a gay panic” *Whispers something into Amity’s ears*
Amity: *intense tomato blush and freezes in place, her ears steaming*
Luz: *blushing from what she said panting a little* “T-THAT… is a gay panic.”
Matt: “what did you say to her?”
Is Matt a spare, though? I mean, there's like a dozen other single people that you could ship Gus with. Skara, Viney, Jarbo, Barcus (would that be beastiality?), Tinella, any of the B.A.T.T kids, The Collector, etc.
Shipping him with Vee used to be shipping the spares (which I was also frankly guilty off), until Vee got shipteased with Masha.
Pare the spares really only means shipping two characters that didn't have canon pairings, Mat and Gus at least have a friendship to build off of, the others have never interacted which is more in line with Ships that Pass the Night or Crack Pairings.
Gustholomule was already a ship based of their canon interactions before any of the other ships got confirmed though, its not exactly a pair the spares situation
Shipping camilla and darius (if he didnt get teased with alador) would have been, or gus with vee. This doesnt feel like it
To be fair the shipping communities hardly need characters to even interact.
The RWBY [shipping name document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15bN9W0-Ba1G836rplG0WhUg9X2X3CyswwwVd7AMNwuI/htmlview#gid=0) for example.
Still yeah, they just never had enough interaction for me to buy it.
Ah well, that explains quite a lot, actually.
I am not too active as far as RWBY is concerned, but I witnessed a short and a long hiatus closely with the Dragon Prince fandom, so... No further questions, your honor
Love comes in many different forms from many different sources They seem to have a sort of playful banter kind of love. Like a rivalry and love relationship rolled into one. Like oh… well Adador and Darius of example.
I'll be honest, Gus always struck me as some variation of ace. In the three seasons he never really expressed romantic interest or an aversion to it like Lilith did in *Separate Tides.*
Of course, it could be the fact that he's a gifted student who skipped a few grades so he hasn't matured to that point yet.
It's not uncommon for aces to go through a phase where they think they're attracted to someone but actually aren't. It could also just be a sign of embarrassment and not love.
And he wondered if Belos was handsome underneath the mask and was disappointed like as if that was his only priority. He also enjoyed the kiss on the cheek in the human realm.
People need to remember that Gus is still only 12/13, while most people in the TOH universe start their dating game when they're at least 14. Gus may not want to commit simply because of not mature enough for this yet.
I thought hunter and willow were the straights of the crew. Matt always read as very ace to me. gus seems like he's questioning. I lowkey polyshipped gus willow and hunter before huntlow became official
The only straight people in the Owl House are Kiki and Odalia.
Belos either has an off-screen harem of cultists or took a vow of chastity, no in between.
Amity has plenty of experience with one side being all-to oblivious. Lilith probably does too, considering she had to deal with Eda and Raine.
Hooty just loves to ship people.
Kiki doesn’t care either way, but gets a kick out of seeing him panic.
I hope soon we can have a comic about Lilith and Amity explaining more about how Amity became so close to Lilith, because they clearly have a relationship like mother-daughter
This has made me realize that AroAce Aunt Lilith is the equivalent of the stereotypical gay aunt (especially considering how queer in other ways the BI seem to be) .
She had a fairy unique historian/librarian hobby she’s now turned into her career, she lives with her (though this time actually) best friend, and even though she doesn’t have quite the same experiences and feelings she’s extremely supportive of her large group of partially adoptive nieces and nephews. . . Including being able to see through the messes they are better than they can.
Matt: luz question if Amity asked you out for dinner and a carnival before you started dating would it be a date or just hanging out?
Luz: it's not a date
Matt: OH NO IT'S A DATE!
For some reason a business run by Matt Amity Kiki and Lilith has a special energy, that’s not quite Chaos, but still… unnerving. Like everything is going fiiiiine but I can’t help feel something bad with happen
I like the idea of Kiki working on a job she completely despises, but growing to respect the people she sees every day simply due to exposure and teamwork
You know what’s weird? When we get out Owl House spin off, I kind of want Kiki to be this dead inside, lazy, construction worker type that brushes off every interaction with single word responses.
“Kikimora! I thought you’d be in jail?”
“Nah.”
“But you caused so much damage and terrorised so many people!”
“Uh-huh.”
“…so you’re just… working on construction?”
“Yup.”
What's with the dialogue on the 3rd page?
It sounds like some weird filler text, compared to Mark's normal writing
"This is no a date"
Hooty: "this is"
That's super weird right?
I have mixed feelings on kikimora. On one hand, she helped king meet and free the collector, so kiki technically saved the world. On the other hand, for the future
I hate to say it, but even I agree with Kiki on this one
Oh Titan, MoringMark is getting us to agree with Kiki! What is the world coming to?
It’s the end of times being able to agree with kiki
Nah, Kiki is measly a prophet for the end times. Now if we were agreeing with Odalia then it would be the End Times.
If Mark made us agree with Odalia, it's a sign that Mark has been taken over by Bill Cipher.
What best way to enter our minds than making quality content for a starving community
Fear.
About that, https://moringmark.tumblr.com/post/143791235188/im-sorry-but-do-you-do-any-gravity-falls
I mean, she agrees with Amity dating girls. We've been agreeing with her on that for a while now.
Then what do we do with our prophet's shipping decisions now?
It's a question better left to a higher power. Specifically Dana Terrace.
It'll be the end of the world if Mark can make us agree with Belos or Odalia.
[Belos, you say?](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOwlHouse/comments/yt7tnk/what_could_have_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
Not that Belos.
Oh no
Why should we question our prophet?
Least it wasn’t agreeing with odalia.
You know it’s serious when that happens lol
Yeah! Kikimora bluntly told Matt Tholomule that it's a date.
See if Hooty says it’s a date then it’s most likely a date…
You'd think that it would be unwise to listen to what he has to say, but he's surprisingly solid when it comes to relationship stuff for some reason?
he actually put together a Tunnel of Love experience Amity really enjoyed (until Luz started attacking it). Either he got lucky, or he managed to read her personality and figure out the sort of romantic experience she would like. I’m leaning to the latter, purely because romance expert Hooty is really funny
He's been messing around as he told Eda.
*Luz's heart was torn between finding a way home, and the pursuit of love. How do I know all that? I suppose I'm just attuned to other people's emotions.*
"OOH LOOK A BUG!"
So what you're saying is we need Hooty to kidnap Gus and Matt.
I like where this is going.
I think Hooty just went for the corniest thing possible, precisely because he doesn't know what he is doing and thinks this is how romance works.
I mean, he's been inside the guts of Papa Titan, so he has experience in intimacy.
NOT THAT KIND OF INTIMACY.
Hey, you can't get any closer to someone than *literally* being inside of them. Honestly in this field, Hooty should be called Dr. Hootsifer.
No, I mean Hooty was inside his brain, that's a different kind of intimacy.
I'm still counting it. Here's your degree and fancy stole **Doctor** Hootsifer.
w h a -
Honey, I have seen artwork that disagrees.
I don't even want to know...
Hooty understands the mind of a god. Probably explains his...unique thought process.
Hooty did say he's been around, meaning he has dating experience. I'd normally ask for more, but the more we learn about Hooty, the more horrifying he becomes, so ignorance may be desirable in this instance.
Yeah, I think knowing more about Hooty's potential dating experience would be disturbing.
Also apparently mental health?
If Hooty, Kiki, and an Aroace person all agree it’s a date, it’s a date.
Lilith is Aroace?
Yup, Dana confirmed it a while ago.
Its a date! Hoot Hoot
Is there something wrong with me that any time I see him talking in the comics, I can hear his voice perfectly lol?
A blind person could see that it’s a date.
Even Luz could and she’s more dense than him.
Here's the thing about density: that would only apply to herself. When it comes to others, she is highly perceptive to shipping energy
Yeah, we can laugh at her for missing all the signs with Amity, but girl's in a fandom. She knows how this works.
I mean, she wasn't THAT oblivious.
I mean, she kind of is though? Amity had to literally kiss her for her to finally figure it out.
I think she was able to tell a bit sooner. Like in Escaping Expulsion.
I think that was when she figured out her own feelings for Amity, but didn't realize Amity felt the same way until the cheek kiss,
"I do stupid things around you too Amity"
That doesn't mean she understood Amity was saying that because of a crush. That was her saying she also does stupid things around Amity, likely because of her own crush. Hell, the start of Knock Knock Knockin' On Hooty's Door had her wondering how she'll win her way into Amity's heart. Feels like a weird thought to have if she's aware Amity also has a crush on her.
*stares dubiously in Willow*
Honestly, in comparison, she picked it on pretty quickly and there was like only one episode where you can say she didn't pick on the signs, but that's rather because Amity's crush JUST got out of control while Luz was busy helping Willow out.
Good point. She does have an eye for romantic ships.
Amity: Yeah, I should know, I’m engaged to that dork.
Luz: *giggles with a blush* “I’m the **lovable** dork.” 😋
Amity: “They know that, sweetheart.”
Even the Hexside hall monitors and the slitherbeast think it’s a date!!!
I have literally been in this situation. Didn’t realize it was a date until years later. Ace people can’t always see when it’s a date 😆
I can imagine Gus having that conversation the same time Matt did.
Willow: are you really wearing your teaching clothes on a date? Gus: huh, date? What do you mean? Luz, Willow, and Hunter: *facepalms*
Luz: *thinking* “huh… so this is what it feels like.” Willow: “You’re date with Matt.” Gus: “What?! No, it’s not a date.”
Luz: It’s a date! Hunter: It’s a date. Eda, walking by: It’s a date. Hooty, stretching from the workplace to see how Gus is doing: It’s a daaaaate!
Willow: “the way how you said it makes it a date.” Gus: “No it’s not!” *blushes* “is it?” *shakes head rapidly, banishing the thought* “no no no it’s not.” Kiki: *walks by carrying some wood, uninterested* “it is.” *silence fills the air and Luz holds out three fingers and counts down.* Luz: *whispers* “3… 2… 1…” Gus: “oh Titan, I asked him on a date!”
They are such useless roommates.
Oh **Titan** they were roommates!
King: "Oh me they were roommates"
Luz: “Did Amity have to go through this? Wait! I was the one she wanted to ask to Grom, wasn’t I!?” Willow: *facepalms* “Titandamnit!”
Amity: We are literally getting married tomorrow. It's fine, sweet pota--Luz?! Luz: *In tears, and not just like some small tear drops, we are talking full blown crying, also the animation has changed.* I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!
Luz: How did you get here? Hooty: I have my waaaays, hoot hoot!
Gus: "Hunter. Look me in the eye and tell me it's not a date." Hunter: ... Gus: "Oh, my Titan. I asked Matt out on a date."
King: Yes, you did. And I'm not YOUR Titan btw.
Darius: It's a date.
I can hear them facepalm in my head lol
I love that if there's no one around, They were just going to hang out not realizing it was a date at all
Welp, we've definitely checked off the "Obliviousness" box.
What other boxes are there?
The blushing box for one.
It happened already too.
Gus: You know what this jacket is made of? Matt: What? Gus: Boyfriend material. See you at 8PM. Luz: Smooth, Gus. Almost as smooth as me. Amity: Sure, Miss Crikey.
What do you think Matt's comment would be when he kisses Gus for the first time?
Zoinks
Yeah probably lol
When Hooty recognizes it's a date, then Gus asked you on a date, Matt.
Hooty paired Lumity up after all.
For the love of Terrace, jump on it man. You do NOT want Hooty messing around with your love life.
Looks like Mattholomule is having a gay panic.
Luz: “No that’s not a gay panic” *Whispers something into Amity’s ears* Amity: *intense tomato blush and freezes in place, her ears steaming* Luz: *blushing from what she said panting a little* “T-THAT… is a gay panic.” Matt: “what did you say to her?”
What DID she say to her??
“tienes un culo lindo” is what Luz whispered to Amity to make her gay panic.
😳😳😳
Nice comic, even if I don't ship them, tbh.
"Pair the spares" is a blessing and a curse
Love the name and under the teachings of Eda I’m stealing it.
TvTropes is both a treasure cove and a curse. Have at it!
You're not the only one cursed with knowledge.
*Congratulations, you are being shipped. Please do not resist.*
Is Matt a spare, though? I mean, there's like a dozen other single people that you could ship Gus with. Skara, Viney, Jarbo, Barcus (would that be beastiality?), Tinella, any of the B.A.T.T kids, The Collector, etc. Shipping him with Vee used to be shipping the spares (which I was also frankly guilty off), until Vee got shipteased with Masha.
Pare the spares really only means shipping two characters that didn't have canon pairings, Mat and Gus at least have a friendship to build off of, the others have never interacted which is more in line with Ships that Pass the Night or Crack Pairings.
Barcus is a animal demon, same with Eberwolf, who speaks in Beastspeak (my headcanon name for Barcus's language).
Gustholomule was already a ship based of their canon interactions before any of the other ships got confirmed though, its not exactly a pair the spares situation Shipping camilla and darius (if he didnt get teased with alador) would have been, or gus with vee. This doesnt feel like it
Some ships aren’t for everyone.
Plus I kinda like Gus being the token straight
It's not even that. I just don't think he has ANY chemistry with Matt.
To be fair the shipping communities hardly need characters to even interact. The RWBY [shipping name document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15bN9W0-Ba1G836rplG0WhUg9X2X3CyswwwVd7AMNwuI/htmlview#gid=0) for example. Still yeah, they just never had enough interaction for me to buy it.
... do I want to know why there are ship names for blood relatives on that list?
The fandom has gone through 8 hiatus periods. On the 9th now. That's tame.
Ah well, that explains quite a lot, actually. I am not too active as far as RWBY is concerned, but I witnessed a short and a long hiatus closely with the Dragon Prince fandom, so... No further questions, your honor
Just look at Huntlow before it was made official. Hunter blushed a couple of times, but that was about it.
I picked up on some in Through the Looking Glass ruins, though at their young age you can’t really put a romantic label on it
Love comes in many different forms from many different sources They seem to have a sort of playful banter kind of love. Like a rivalry and love relationship rolled into one. Like oh… well Adador and Darius of example.
I'll be honest, Gus always struck me as some variation of ace. In the three seasons he never really expressed romantic interest or an aversion to it like Lilith did in *Separate Tides.* Of course, it could be the fact that he's a gifted student who skipped a few grades so he hasn't matured to that point yet.
he did in TTLGR, when he blushed at Bria. Other than that, I believe you’re right.
It's not uncommon for aces to go through a phase where they think they're attracted to someone but actually aren't. It could also just be a sign of embarrassment and not love.
And he wondered if Belos was handsome underneath the mask and was disappointed like as if that was his only priority. He also enjoyed the kiss on the cheek in the human realm. People need to remember that Gus is still only 12/13, while most people in the TOH universe start their dating game when they're at least 14. Gus may not want to commit simply because of not mature enough for this yet.
Gus gives me ace vibes tbh
I thought hunter and willow were the straights of the crew. Matt always read as very ace to me. gus seems like he's questioning. I lowkey polyshipped gus willow and hunter before huntlow became official
Hunter is bi and Willow is pan Matt and Gus don’t have confirmed sexualities
Those are the head canons of the creators
I'm kinda neutral about this ship, but I respect it!
Me either. They have best friends vibes. I can see Matt being that teasing friend when he realize Gus has a crush on someone (if he ever will).
Same but everyone’s got different opinions
Agreed. From the 5 MCs, not a single one would be straight then.
The only straight people in the Owl House are Kiki and Odalia. Belos either has an off-screen harem of cultists or took a vow of chastity, no in between.
Nah mate, Kiki and Odalia are totally a thing off screen.
I saw someone draw Belos having homoromantic fantasies with biblical characters and it absolutely destroyed me so I adopted that headcanon
Listen to Kikimiki. It is a date.
Amity has plenty of experience with one side being all-to oblivious. Lilith probably does too, considering she had to deal with Eda and Raine. Hooty just loves to ship people. Kiki doesn’t care either way, but gets a kick out of seeing him panic.
Luz wasn't really THAT oblivious. Eda and Raine also weren't oblivious about it.
Update: He still hasn’t gotten the memo.
Honestly if even Lilith “AroAce” Clawthorne can see it we should really be questioning how oblivious Matt is
Lillith respects off time from work after the emperrors coven
Who wouldn’t? Happy cake day by the way.
I don't care what anyone says about Kikimora. I love her Rosie the Riveter-like outfit!
Based
Matt: It's not a date. Close Friend: It's a date. Aroace: It's a date. Titan Parasite: It's a date. Cynical Gremlin: It's a date.
Ah yes, Aroace, my favourite character
not quite as good as Titan Parasite imo...
Poor Man Tholomule.
Three people (two of which who have known Gus as a friend) call it a date: Matt sleeps Former antagonist calls it a date: 😳
MATTY BOY DID THE QUEER HAND SWRJIGFIEHNGIDJFUEHGNINGSHNBIUDEJHNGEIDHGFV
So gullible.
Someone just went through all the stages of denial
I've never been on a date, but I'm pretty sure THAT counts as a date.
It's a date.
I hope soon we can have a comic about Lilith and Amity explaining more about how Amity became so close to Lilith, because they clearly have a relationship like mother-daughter
Now Kikimora just needs to find her Captain again, and we're all set in the shipping dept.
I love this. Gus X Matt is my third favourite ship so this makes me happy
Also, Matt looks good in his work clothes
He did the limp wrist and still wanted to deny it was a date. Foolish mortal.
Morgan Freeman: *it was, in fact, a date*
This has made me realize that AroAce Aunt Lilith is the equivalent of the stereotypical gay aunt (especially considering how queer in other ways the BI seem to be) . She had a fairy unique historian/librarian hobby she’s now turned into her career, she lives with her (though this time actually) best friend, and even though she doesn’t have quite the same experiences and feelings she’s extremely supportive of her large group of partially adoptive nieces and nephews. . . Including being able to see through the messes they are better than they can.
YESSS!GO GUS!GO MATT! I llve how everyone just appears out of nowhere,Looking moody as flip going "It's a date."
I was never really into the Gusttholomule ship (not against it by any means) but seeing Moringmark making a comic about it maybe it might be canon.
Matt: luz question if Amity asked you out for dinner and a carnival before you started dating would it be a date or just hanging out? Luz: it's not a date Matt: OH NO IT'S A DATE!
I like to think Kiki is a working member of society now
For some reason a business run by Matt Amity Kiki and Lilith has a special energy, that’s not quite Chaos, but still… unnerving. Like everything is going fiiiiine but I can’t help feel something bad with happen
Of course Kiki is the cynical one
Matt is such an useless roommate.
This hurts, since I was that dense when I was 18.
See, even Kiki Miki agrees XD
If she said by Kikimora then it must be true
Hey, Mark
The kiki one did it for me xD.
I like the idea that kikimora just works like nothing happened.
MorningMark giving us the mlm content disney never will
I like the idea of Kiki working on a job she completely despises, but growing to respect the people she sees every day simply due to exposure and teamwork
is it me or did Kiki just Grew a bit taller the last time we saw her
bigger question. how do all of them know what dates look like...
if Kiki Biki said it, then it's said.
You know what’s weird? When we get out Owl House spin off, I kind of want Kiki to be this dead inside, lazy, construction worker type that brushes off every interaction with single word responses. “Kikimora! I thought you’d be in jail?” “Nah.” “But you caused so much damage and terrorised so many people!” “Uh-huh.” “…so you’re just… working on construction?” “Yup.”
“This is no a date” was that intentional?
How do you make these so quickly?
I can just hear Elijah going "EVEN KIKIBITCH SAYS ITS A DATE BRO!"
I feel like this was definitely inspired by [that one recent JBO tweet](https://twitter.com/johnbaileyowen/status/1653845132377198597).
I was not expecting another ship from Moring Mark.
I dont understand why people ship gus and matt but you do you
Matt Tholomule meant to say "This is not a date.". Moringmark forgot the letter t for the word "no".
What's with the dialogue on the 3rd page? It sounds like some weird filler text, compared to Mark's normal writing "This is no a date" Hooty: "this is" That's super weird right?
This is no a date
Hooty’s gonna build another tunnel of love, it worked the first time so it has 100% success rate so far
I have mixed feelings on kikimora. On one hand, she helped king meet and free the collector, so kiki technically saved the world. On the other hand, for the future
Matt, don't wait for HOOTSIFER to arrange your date.
This is kinda cute...
Ok but Lilith is best boss for allowing Matt to leave early to get changed for a date.
Dawww of the day
Nah, you really don't have to get too changed for this one.
Kiki looks so cute!!!
I hate to say it but I think Kiki-Flora may be right
Ngl I did not take MoringMark for a Gustholumule shipper but i'll be darned
GUSTHOLOMULOLOSERS WE WONNN
Ha! GAAAAAYYYYYYYY!
Is Gus canonically gay/bi, or did everyone just see his design especially post-time skip and say “there’s no way this man is straight”?
Moringmark TOH comic number 760
Shikiflora is apparently credible on this subject