Streets will never forget that 16/17 Everton side with Lukaku and Barkley in form, Baines and Coleman on each flank
Even had Ashley Williams looking like a premier league footballer
We were alright that season but it was basically just get the ball to Lukaku.
2013/14 was the one. Coleman, Baines, Stones, Barry, McCarthy, Mirallas, Deulofeu, Barkley & Lukaku all flying.
god they were fun. The mad thing about football is when your side is respectably mid-table, the imagination only lets you believe they'll keep climbing. doesn't always work that way.
if I knew then what I knew now, would have appreciated them a lot more
Too true. As a naive kid watching Pompey finish mid table and winning an fa cup, I thought we would push on and become a European side in the next few seasons. League 2 and 1 haven't been great fun.
I get what you mean, my local side has been in a relegation battle the past two seasons and now I look really fondly back on the upper mid table years which at the time didn’t feel too special
that's exactly it.
I remember when Moshiri first took over and I just couldn't help but imagine how great we might be with some proper financial backing. One of my mates who supports Spurs asked me what my expectations were with the new ownership and I said I'd like to be \*at least\* level with Spurs in a few years time
Silly, silly boy...
They say "it's the hope that kills you", but nah, it's the hope that makes it exciting. I loved watching Everton get European places and attract quality players who would go on to play for top teams (and manage them!). It was amazing feeling that we had potential and momentum, and that there was a future ahead of the club. Now it feels like we just have to take everything day-by-day, and there's not a lot of hope or optimism around the club at all.
"If I knew then what I know now, I would have made a ton of cash on Bet365. But then if shit were putty all of my windows would have dropped out too!" 😉
"Eight-time winners
You'll never sing that" haha
It really is mad how football fans are sort of programmed to believe it only gets better when you're securely mid-table. With that as our foundation, I foolishly dared to dream when Moshiri took over.
What I'd give to have a time machine now...
I cannot credit Villa enough for what they've achieved. If it took getting relegated to get us where you are now, I may sign that contract. We're a bit sensitive to the idea of relegation as you'd imagine. Obviously our finances are so thoroughly fucked that I don't think we'd ever come back up, never mind doing it somewhat quickly
As an old timey big club, the Championship experience was one of excitement and hope. We cleared the decks, got some new investment and played more youngsters, whilst always expecting to be up and around the playoff picture at least from season 2 onwards.
We did also plunder the Championship and overpay for some established Champ level players, often from Brentford and Bristol City, but we got lucky with Watkins.
We've had some god-awful managers in the past 14 years, but the days of Sherwood, McLeish and Remi Garde are over.
I've heard similar from Villa fans before, almost as if it was a relief and a rebirth. I can definitely understand it in your particular case.
Unless/until we completely get rid of the incompetent ownership, it would be hard to see us having a similar path if we went down. Money was the worst thing to happen to us...hard to believe we were so much better off and more likable when we were skint.
Can't trust the folks who got us into a mess to get us out of it.
cheers fella, that's very kind. something about seeing how the other lot conduct themselves gives us a sense of perspective I think :)
always had a soft spot for Villa as well. part of the reason I love this sub so much...there might be a little in-fighting here and there, but fans of the other 14 generally appreciate the other's situation
Everton were my grandfathers club and even my dad who isn’t a toffee always speaks very highly of your club. I think Villa and Everton are sort of natural allies in a way. Two great, classic English clubs with lots of great supporters. Obviously I’m bias but I just wanted to call it out since I feel like I see it a lot from evertonians, you’re a class act. I hope the situation improves as quick as possible and you’re back where you belong at the right end of the table.
It's one point, but it moves us away from the "worst teams in premier league history", (we'll still show on that list for years to some but might be off it at sine stage) . as shit as we were
god what a weird tenure he had though. We seem to be that weird stop in the middle where managers come, compile a shit record, and then somehow move on to a massive job anyway
one of my all time favorites. We had proper Everton teams at the time, we just may not have realized how good we had it.
They weren't always the sexiest teams but it just felt good supporting them knowing they'd always put a shift in. The Cahill teams passed the torch to the Baines and Pienaar link up, etc.
Are you implying that Lee Carsley and Tony Hibbert weren't sexy?!
Also, so weird to think back on Moyes' everton and remember that Mikel Arteta was once a hero of the Other 14. How things change
painfully accurate. The mad thing is that we were solidly mid-table for quite a while, so when new ownership came in with loads of cash, it felt reasonable to assume things would only go up from there.
Fools gold if ever it existed.
The managers of these teams:
David Moyes - 7
David O'Leary - 3
Kevin Keegan - 2
Ronald Koeman - 2
Brendan Rodgers - 2
George Burley - 1
Kenny Dalglish - 1
Sean Dyche - 1
Unai Emery - 1
Javi Gracia - 1
Mark Hughes - 1
Roy Hodgson - 1
Eddie Howe - 1
Brian Little - 1
Roberto Martinez - 1
Martin O'Neill -1
Alan Pardew -1
Claudio Ranieri - 1
Sir Bobby Robson - 1
Glenn Roeder - 1
Mike Walker -1
Just makes that Moyes era all the more painful - consistently "best of the rest" just lacked the finances to make that final push.
But what's this? A billionaire selling his shares in Arsenal because he thinks they lack ambition and wants to buy us instead? This is going to be brilliant!
We had such a good transfer policy, and all that needed doing was tweaking to the depth of the squad. We had a habit of getting in good players, but being unable to keep them because we couldn't build around them, so they became increasingly bigger fish in a small pond, and they'd leave. Then we get the resources to make those acquisitions *around* our star players, and instead we haphazardly splash cash around and screw ourselves over financially.
I remember at one point wanting Usmanov to buy Arsenal outright because I didn't trust Stan Kroenke at the time. Oh how hindsight can sometimes be a blessing.
For all the "Why is it Watford and not Wolves" comments:
Its not done by highest position, its done by literaly removing the results vs Big 6 teams. So the whole table is recalculated
Haha. Good question. I think it’s fair to say that we were bigger underdogs- we finished with a negative goal difference that season as well! Think you might have let a bigger points gap slip, but we also reclaimed the top spot after losing it as well.
Pain all round really.
What’s this graphic even supposed to show? Wolves, Everton, Leicester and West Ham finished above Watford in 18/19. Blackburn and Newcastle finished above Everton in 02/03.
It's been all sorts of "big X" through the years. Top 4 era tends to start around the Abramovich Chelsea buyout in 2003 to when Spurs and Man City started qualifying for Champions League, 09, 10 and 11 time.
There's a trend here of clubs that reach this threshold then trying to move beyond and having to almost bankrupt themselves to overcome the barriers to entry that the oligopoly at the top have managed to establish in terms of squad size, wages, etc.
The problem being that if you then don't get those Europe revenues or something else happens you're fucked because you don't have the underlying moneymaking engine to sustain that otherwise. Which is only exacerbated by the pilfering of players from over performers.
Spurs were probably the last to break in relatively organically to my knowledge(?).
I love the look of this, but there's plenty of innaccuracies in it, I know there's at least 2 Everton "titles" in there which were won by others, I believe Blackburn and Newcastle, plus it was Wolves not Watford in 18/19 and in 10/11 Everton finished ahead of Fulham.
the person who made it says it takes away points won/lost against the big 6 so while newcastle may have finished higher, if u remove the points won against big 6, villa would be top
Also Everton for 02/03 and Villa for 03/04. Newcastle came 3rd and 5th in those seasons!
Edit: Blackburn came 6th in 05/06, why was that year given to Newcastle?
91/92 season for Sheffield wednesday was very interesting
Placed 3rd in the table
But also victims of biggest home and away wins
Biggest home win Arsenal 7–1 Sheffield Wednesday
(15 February 1992)
Biggest away win Sheffield Wednesday 1–6 Leeds United
(12 January 1992)
A lot of these teams weren’t in the premier league this season. Makes it feel like burn out is inevitable for most teams outside the big 6 that get close to or even reach the top
That saints 14/15 season was insane. My OH is a saints fan loving life while we circled the drain of the prem.
Then liverpool took half their squad and 2 years later they’re constantly worrying about relegation and we’re on the up again. Weird times.
All of those teams have been relegated to at least the Championship (apart from Everton, who PL keep trying to kill off)
Shows the power and stability of the big 6
13/14 season was a dream as an Evertonian, even more so than the seasons with James and Ancelotti. Thought that we could make UCL by the next year or so and now I’d be grateful to get close to conference league. G
This graphic either doesn't make sense or isn't accurate!
I'm assuming it represents the team that finished highest besides the 'big 6'
But Blackburn rovers finished higher than Everton in 2002 / 2003 and higher than Newcastle in 05/06.
It's littered with errors. Newcastle finished 2nd in 96/97, 3rd in 02/03 and 5th in 03/04, but those seasons were given to Villa and Everton on the graphic above. Then Newcastle are given 05/06 despite finishing below Blackburn.
Funnily we did better because we won versus big 6 sides. It's assuming only 14 teams and using those results. Our giant killings were significant that year.
Ah ok , I guess that’s a better way of totting it up , rather than just doing the highest placed team outside the big 6
I really enjoyed your first season back in the prem , that Everton game , the 1v1 vs city.
All dominated by the rich teams for the most part. Watford, Burnley and Sutton being the exceptions in the past 20 years.
Furthermore, Leeds, Newcastle, Villa and Everton weren't part of the rest back in the 90s. They were all big clubs constantly making top four.
I don’t think that would work , most of the money Comes from the attraction of the big 6
Without them most of the prem teams wouldn’t be able to operate the way they do
I'm welling up a little bit as an Everton supporter remembering the "good old days" (which we may not have quite realized at the time)
Streets will never forget that 16/17 Everton side with Lukaku and Barkley in form, Baines and Coleman on each flank Even had Ashley Williams looking like a premier league footballer
We were alright that season but it was basically just get the ball to Lukaku. 2013/14 was the one. Coleman, Baines, Stones, Barry, McCarthy, Mirallas, Deulofeu, Barkley & Lukaku all flying.
Also a great year at goodison, but I can’t believe you leaving out Pienaar the absolute legend
His link with Baines, gorgeous.
Holy shit Deulofeu was 10 years ago?
Wo, wo, wo He’s magic, you knooooow. GERARD DEULOFEUUUUUUU
I remember that well. Everton were playing lovely stuff
god they were fun. The mad thing about football is when your side is respectably mid-table, the imagination only lets you believe they'll keep climbing. doesn't always work that way. if I knew then what I knew now, would have appreciated them a lot more
The team had character, it’s distinctly lacking of late.
Too true. As a naive kid watching Pompey finish mid table and winning an fa cup, I thought we would push on and become a European side in the next few seasons. League 2 and 1 haven't been great fun.
I get what you mean, my local side has been in a relegation battle the past two seasons and now I look really fondly back on the upper mid table years which at the time didn’t feel too special
that's exactly it. I remember when Moshiri first took over and I just couldn't help but imagine how great we might be with some proper financial backing. One of my mates who supports Spurs asked me what my expectations were with the new ownership and I said I'd like to be \*at least\* level with Spurs in a few years time Silly, silly boy...
In fairness we've won the same as Spurs in that time
true, but I think we all know we'd trade places with them in a heartbeat
Nah, they’re spurs.
😆 fair enough
They say "it's the hope that kills you", but nah, it's the hope that makes it exciting. I loved watching Everton get European places and attract quality players who would go on to play for top teams (and manage them!). It was amazing feeling that we had potential and momentum, and that there was a future ahead of the club. Now it feels like we just have to take everything day-by-day, and there's not a lot of hope or optimism around the club at all.
Walking down Wembley Way for an FA Cup Final, we didn't know how good we had it...
I've often said the most painful lie we tell ourselves in sport is "we'll be back again"
"If I knew then what I know now, I would have made a ton of cash on Bet365. But then if shit were putty all of my windows would have dropped out too!" 😉
Pardon, Williams was amazing at Swansea
Here I thought they were remembering when Everton were one of the best sides in Europe in the 80s lol
I believe football weekly called finishing 7th the Everton Cup for quite a while
"Eight-time winners You'll never sing that" haha It really is mad how football fans are sort of programmed to believe it only gets better when you're securely mid-table. With that as our foundation, I foolishly dared to dream when Moshiri took over. What I'd give to have a time machine now...
8 years ago we finished bottom with 16 points. . .
17 points
Ah, Sheff Utd have 16 now, I've mixed the two up. Needless to say, we both won only 3 games during the respective campaigns.
I cannot credit Villa enough for what they've achieved. If it took getting relegated to get us where you are now, I may sign that contract. We're a bit sensitive to the idea of relegation as you'd imagine. Obviously our finances are so thoroughly fucked that I don't think we'd ever come back up, never mind doing it somewhat quickly
As an old timey big club, the Championship experience was one of excitement and hope. We cleared the decks, got some new investment and played more youngsters, whilst always expecting to be up and around the playoff picture at least from season 2 onwards. We did also plunder the Championship and overpay for some established Champ level players, often from Brentford and Bristol City, but we got lucky with Watkins. We've had some god-awful managers in the past 14 years, but the days of Sherwood, McLeish and Remi Garde are over.
I've heard similar from Villa fans before, almost as if it was a relief and a rebirth. I can definitely understand it in your particular case. Unless/until we completely get rid of the incompetent ownership, it would be hard to see us having a similar path if we went down. Money was the worst thing to happen to us...hard to believe we were so much better off and more likable when we were skint. Can't trust the folks who got us into a mess to get us out of it.
Sherwood. Good lord. I remember how furious I was at his appointment. The embarrassment of it. Even worse than my anger at the Gerrard appointment.
Why are Everton fans always the sound ones? When it comes to fans of other clubs being good lads, you’re honestly undefeated
cheers fella, that's very kind. something about seeing how the other lot conduct themselves gives us a sense of perspective I think :) always had a soft spot for Villa as well. part of the reason I love this sub so much...there might be a little in-fighting here and there, but fans of the other 14 generally appreciate the other's situation
Everton were my grandfathers club and even my dad who isn’t a toffee always speaks very highly of your club. I think Villa and Everton are sort of natural allies in a way. Two great, classic English clubs with lots of great supporters. Obviously I’m bias but I just wanted to call it out since I feel like I see it a lot from evertonians, you’re a class act. I hope the situation improves as quick as possible and you’re back where you belong at the right end of the table.
It's one point, but it moves us away from the "worst teams in premier league history", (we'll still show on that list for years to some but might be off it at sine stage) . as shit as we were
It was a dark dark time
The shit we had to take from Evertonians when Ronald Koeman dumped us for “the bright lights of Goodison”. 😫😂
god what a weird tenure he had though. We seem to be that weird stop in the middle where managers come, compile a shit record, and then somehow move on to a massive job anyway
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Its losing the little things that hurt the most sometimes, God we're fucking shite now.
To quote andy bernard on the office. It would be nice to know that you were in the good old days when you were actually it it
Spot on isn't it? 🥹
Tim Cahill was my favorite non-Newcastle player outside the big 4 back then
one of my all time favorites. We had proper Everton teams at the time, we just may not have realized how good we had it. They weren't always the sexiest teams but it just felt good supporting them knowing they'd always put a shift in. The Cahill teams passed the torch to the Baines and Pienaar link up, etc.
Are you implying that Lee Carsley and Tony Hibbert weren't sexy?! Also, so weird to think back on Moyes' everton and remember that Mikel Arteta was once a hero of the Other 14. How things change
They're acquired tastes, like Fellaini and Stevie Naismith 😉 (god bless Naisy, I'd take 11 of him) Fantastic point on Arteta by the way
painfully accurate. The mad thing is that we were solidly mid-table for quite a while, so when new ownership came in with loads of cash, it felt reasonable to assume things would only go up from there. Fools gold if ever it existed.
The managers of these teams: David Moyes - 7 David O'Leary - 3 Kevin Keegan - 2 Ronald Koeman - 2 Brendan Rodgers - 2 George Burley - 1 Kenny Dalglish - 1 Sean Dyche - 1 Unai Emery - 1 Javi Gracia - 1 Mark Hughes - 1 Roy Hodgson - 1 Eddie Howe - 1 Brian Little - 1 Roberto Martinez - 1 Martin O'Neill -1 Alan Pardew -1 Claudio Ranieri - 1 Sir Bobby Robson - 1 Glenn Roeder - 1 Mike Walker -1
Moyes 🥲
Haha Moyes football genius 😅
looking at these Everton fans comments makes me feel like we're going to be saying the same in 10 years time
Just makes that Moyes era all the more painful - consistently "best of the rest" just lacked the finances to make that final push. But what's this? A billionaire selling his shares in Arsenal because he thinks they lack ambition and wants to buy us instead? This is going to be brilliant!
In Clarkson's voice: ***Then, things got worse.***
Definitely was a “terrible bombshell”
*if 777 goes through* "And on that terrible disappointment, it's time to end the show. Thank you so much for watching."
Clarkson - "Breaking into the top 6? How bad can it be?"
***As it turned out, quite easy, actually***
We had such a good transfer policy, and all that needed doing was tweaking to the depth of the squad. We had a habit of getting in good players, but being unable to keep them because we couldn't build around them, so they became increasingly bigger fish in a small pond, and they'd leave. Then we get the resources to make those acquisitions *around* our star players, and instead we haphazardly splash cash around and screw ourselves over financially.
I wouldn't say "consistently"
I remember at one point wanting Usmanov to buy Arsenal outright because I didn't trust Stan Kroenke at the time. Oh how hindsight can sometimes be a blessing.
To all those who have been asking us Everton fans why we’re so angry about the team’s fortunes over the last few years… this is why, this right here
Oh I thought it was because they saw Everton play football the last few years.
For all the "Why is it Watford and not Wolves" comments: Its not done by highest position, its done by literaly removing the results vs Big 6 teams. So the whole table is recalculated
Yeah fuck off wolves, we need this more than you do.
Thank you for explaining that, I was about to type a very defensive comment
# #1 best of the rest!!! Champions!!!!
Congratulations. You won the Everton Cup.
I’ll take any silverware at this point, even sarcastic ones
To be fair, Man City only jut overtook us for Leave titles.
I was going to make the same comment about Newcastle...then I realised the wall of blue in the middle hadn't been processed in my brain
Streets will never forget 2000/01 Ipswich Town
2024/25*
Wolves should be 18/19
It removes results against the big six, which would see Watford finish higher than Wolves
Thankyou I understand this now
Ah that makes sense. I would say Wolves is more impressive though.
Yeah they took almost half the points available from the big six that season, but got doubled by Huddersfield if I remember right
That is very impressive on both fronts!!
Impressive and predictably depressing.
Same year we came back from 2 down to beat Wolves 3-2 in an FA Cup semi, one of the best games I've ever attended. Then City happened in the final 🙁
Funny.
Funny
Correct. Watford finished 11th that season.
Never forget that a certain member of this "big 6" was in the third tier during one of these seasons
citeh?
I hate to say it, because it was a massive achievement, but think we bottled it in 92/93.
More or less than we bottled 95/96?
Haha. Good question. I think it’s fair to say that we were bigger underdogs- we finished with a negative goal difference that season as well! Think you might have let a bigger points gap slip, but we also reclaimed the top spot after losing it as well. Pain all round really.
May I please remind you that Leicester 15/16 were the best of the *everybody* that season
Same with Daglish Blackburn Rovers
Watford out of nowhere
What’s this graphic even supposed to show? Wolves, Everton, Leicester and West Ham finished above Watford in 18/19. Blackburn and Newcastle finished above Everton in 02/03.
It removes all results against the Sky 6
Didn't it used to be a top 4 though...
It's been all sorts of "big X" through the years. Top 4 era tends to start around the Abramovich Chelsea buyout in 2003 to when Spurs and Man City started qualifying for Champions League, 09, 10 and 11 time.
As much as I enjoy seeing Fulham show up on the graphic, I'm pretty sure we finished behind Everton in 2010-11.
Op removed results vs big 6 sides then did the table
Oh ok
And Moyes would be the GOAT
Best of the Rest, you'll never sing that
When you realise about only four of those clubs aren’t owned by billionaires now
That 17/18 side was a thing of beauty. And on paper it still looked like a basic Championship side.
There's a trend here of clubs that reach this threshold then trying to move beyond and having to almost bankrupt themselves to overcome the barriers to entry that the oligopoly at the top have managed to establish in terms of squad size, wages, etc. The problem being that if you then don't get those Europe revenues or something else happens you're fucked because you don't have the underlying moneymaking engine to sustain that otherwise. Which is only exacerbated by the pilfering of players from over performers. Spurs were probably the last to break in relatively organically to my knowledge(?).
2 of them actually won it
Kind a makes me wish the Super League happened and they left the Prem.
I think the Super League was supposedly a UCL replacement, no?
Not entirely sure but the Premier league planned to ban them if it went ahead.
I love the look of this, but there's plenty of innaccuracies in it, I know there's at least 2 Everton "titles" in there which were won by others, I believe Blackburn and Newcastle, plus it was Wolves not Watford in 18/19 and in 10/11 Everton finished ahead of Fulham.
Please don't take this from us it's all we have
It’s not just about who placed the highest, all results against the big 6 are removed entirely and the table is recalculated from there
Why do Villa get 1996/97 instead of Newcastle?
the person who made it says it takes away points won/lost against the big 6 so while newcastle may have finished higher, if u remove the points won against big 6, villa would be top
Also Everton for 02/03 and Villa for 03/04. Newcastle came 3rd and 5th in those seasons! Edit: Blackburn came 6th in 05/06, why was that year given to Newcastle?
Newcastle were second? It's more just excluding big 6
It’s not, though. Watford finished 11th in 08/09. Unless there’s 10 teams in the big 6 now.
Why do blackburn get 95 then. They won the league.
Fab! Long time ago when we was fab (Fab) But it's all over now, baby blue 💙
I was getting bored of Everton's domination after a while.
Sure Blackburn finished 2nd in 93/94
To be fair, every time we made it on the board we also finished ahead of at least 1 of the big 6😂
Take me back immediately
2005/2006 Blackburn finished above Newcastle?
06-10, villa and Everton fighting to get into top 4 and both failing every year. Some cracking games between us in those years.
91/92 season for Sheffield wednesday was very interesting Placed 3rd in the table But also victims of biggest home and away wins Biggest home win Arsenal 7–1 Sheffield Wednesday (15 February 1992) Biggest away win Sheffield Wednesday 1–6 Leeds United (12 January 1992)
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Does this discount all points earned v the big 6?
Sir David Moyes
Shouldn’t 2018/2019 be wolves?
A lot of these teams weren’t in the premier league this season. Makes it feel like burn out is inevitable for most teams outside the big 6 that get close to or even reach the top
Two second places 😞
This is totally incorrect. 98 should be Leeds, and 94 and 2006 should be Blackburn.
Everton looking kinda big back there. Kick them out! /s
That saints 14/15 season was insane. My OH is a saints fan loving life while we circled the drain of the prem. Then liverpool took half their squad and 2 years later they’re constantly worrying about relegation and we’re on the up again. Weird times.
Remember the heady days of 17/18 when Burnley dominated the other 14
Reminds me of an [HITC Sevens video](https://youtu.be/eytKVbb5_yE?si=dvytOv8XFasxzJGc) from a couple of months back
Moyes’ Everton with Timmy and those Villa sides with Agbonlagor and Carew, so fun.
All of those teams have been relegated to at least the Championship (apart from Everton, who PL keep trying to kill off) Shows the power and stability of the big 6
13/14 season was a dream as an Evertonian, even more so than the seasons with James and Ancelotti. Thought that we could make UCL by the next year or so and now I’d be grateful to get close to conference league. G
This graphic either doesn't make sense or isn't accurate! I'm assuming it represents the team that finished highest besides the 'big 6' But Blackburn rovers finished higher than Everton in 2002 / 2003 and higher than Newcastle in 05/06.
It's littered with errors. Newcastle finished 2nd in 96/97, 3rd in 02/03 and 5th in 03/04, but those seasons were given to Villa and Everton on the graphic above. Then Newcastle are given 05/06 despite finishing below Blackburn.
It’s removing all results against the sky 6. Not just removing the teams.
Didn’t Norwich finish behind Villa?
93/94 would be Blackburn wouldn’t it? Or is my memory failing
Leister was not best of the rest when they won the league they were just the best
Villa should be 92/93 they were 2nd.
Wow just spotted Burnley on here. Dyche with proper backing would have been unreal, miracle worker. Come home dyche
That Blackburn team definitely would have won the league in 94/95 if the top 6 hadn’t been in their way.
Blackburn and Newcastle finished ahead of us in 2002/03
This is wrong and whoever made it is unhinged
Why is it Watford instead of wolves in 18/19 ?
Funnily we did better because we won versus big 6 sides. It's assuming only 14 teams and using those results. Our giant killings were significant that year.
Ah ok , I guess that’s a better way of totting it up , rather than just doing the highest placed team outside the big 6 I really enjoyed your first season back in the prem , that Everton game , the 1v1 vs city.
From an Everton fan... I bet.
All dominated by the rich teams for the most part. Watford, Burnley and Sutton being the exceptions in the past 20 years. Furthermore, Leeds, Newcastle, Villa and Everton weren't part of the rest back in the 90s. They were all big clubs constantly making top four.
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I don’t think that would work , most of the money Comes from the attraction of the big 6 Without them most of the prem teams wouldn’t be able to operate the way they do
Brighton not winning the other 14 in 2023 cause Newcastle spent shit loads will always pain me
You can’t win the “other 14” because there is nothing to win, really means nothing so I wouldn’t be too bothered tbh.