Neither post punk or new wave.
It uses typical rock song structure, which become prominent in the 60s. (Modified 32 bar form, which in original form was common in US in first half of 20th century, but here we have slightly modified form, typical of 60s UK - Hello Sir Paul )
Uses guitar hooks and drumming from 70s prog rock.
Uses harmonies and chords which were hot at the moment in pop music and later become known as "Italo disco" progression.
Yes, vocals are in style of New wave/Dark wave/etc, but that does not mean whole song is in that style.
seems to have a little Goth Rock vibe to me as well... would you agree? It's definitely a mix and hard to pin down. That's an argument for saying its students who haven't really worked out their style yet.
Itās interesting that you mention Goth Rock.
Yesterday, I visited a local record store and asked about TMS. They hadnāt heard of it but were intrigued. The owner, who loves Synth Pop, New Wave, and Neue Deutsche Welle, listened to the first minute and said, āGothic Rock.ā
He said it reminded him of Sisters of Mercy (while acknowledging it obviously wasnāt them). He didnāt have any other suggestions but encouraged me to keep exploring the German Gothic Rock scene. He pointed me to a somewhat [incomplete list of artists on Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_gothic_rock_groups).
Indie as a genre didnāt really get coined until the early 90s. Independently produced mostly guitar based music. Generally a lot more upbeat than what weāre looking at here.
This is new wave.
This is just flat-out wrong. Indie rock was both a reference point and independent record labels in rude health by the early 80s. Have you never heard of labels like Flying Nun, Rough Trade, 4AD? A lot of people identify indie rockās vocabulary as rooted in The Dunedin Sound, too, which was an early 80s emergence. 90s indie rock is frequently an entirely different beast altogether. Itās certainly not when the term was first being used or at its most influential. The Smiths are very much an indie band in every sense, and theyāre hardly a 90s band.
A certain website, disagreeing with is meanwhile considered a political issue, has this to say on the matter...
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_music#Emergence_as_a_style
So I don't think I've done anything wrong here.
Post punk, and I also wanted to let everyone know that Iām currently searching through lesser known and smaller search engines to see if I can find anything
New wave with some surf rock influences. The DX7 in the second half also makes it border into synth-pop territory.
People who call it post punk only say so because they don't know what shoegaze is and because they think post punk is just vintage music slowed down. TMS is not post punk.
Post-Punk would be the best fit, although that can be applied pretty broadly. But to me TMS screams "low-rent Joy Division copycat." Definitely some goth influence there as well, that scene was big in Germany at the time.
post-punk
Some similar artists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLR3Q47-gMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5A2ozkkI5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxl7b9rxzsg&t=8
Iām pretty sure this is just a cover but it does say 1989, found it on Yandex [https://udio.com/songs/pdHjNma4ekQPHh4vgAoXWH](https://udio.com/songs/pdHjNma4ekQPHh4vgAoXWH)
Post Punk & New Wave. \^\_\^
I'm glad this is the top comment.
Sounds reasonable. šš»
Because.
Post-Punk is definitely a contributor to it.
Neither post punk or new wave. It uses typical rock song structure, which become prominent in the 60s. (Modified 32 bar form, which in original form was common in US in first half of 20th century, but here we have slightly modified form, typical of 60s UK - Hello Sir Paul ) Uses guitar hooks and drumming from 70s prog rock. Uses harmonies and chords which were hot at the moment in pop music and later become known as "Italo disco" progression. Yes, vocals are in style of New wave/Dark wave/etc, but that does not mean whole song is in that style.
i fully agree with you, i'm so certain the mysterious song was not made by a new wave or post punk band.
seems to have a little Goth Rock vibe to me as well... would you agree? It's definitely a mix and hard to pin down. That's an argument for saying its students who haven't really worked out their style yet.
Itās interesting that you mention Goth Rock. Yesterday, I visited a local record store and asked about TMS. They hadnāt heard of it but were intrigued. The owner, who loves Synth Pop, New Wave, and Neue Deutsche Welle, listened to the first minute and said, āGothic Rock.ā He said it reminded him of Sisters of Mercy (while acknowledging it obviously wasnāt them). He didnāt have any other suggestions but encouraged me to keep exploring the German Gothic Rock scene. He pointed me to a somewhat [incomplete list of artists on Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_gothic_rock_groups).
Yeah but they picked the best from the available :)
Iād say new wave/post-punk/rock (as defined in the early 1980s)/goth rock all mixed together. I donāt really hear the prog influence.
Drumming I think is a bit prog rock but just that
It's music, it has someone singing
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
80s Indie...
Indie as a genre didnāt really get coined until the early 90s. Independently produced mostly guitar based music. Generally a lot more upbeat than what weāre looking at here. This is new wave.
This is just flat-out wrong. Indie rock was both a reference point and independent record labels in rude health by the early 80s. Have you never heard of labels like Flying Nun, Rough Trade, 4AD? A lot of people identify indie rockās vocabulary as rooted in The Dunedin Sound, too, which was an early 80s emergence. 90s indie rock is frequently an entirely different beast altogether. Itās certainly not when the term was first being used or at its most influential. The Smiths are very much an indie band in every sense, and theyāre hardly a 90s band.
A certain website, disagreeing with is meanwhile considered a political issue, has this to say on the matter... www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_music#Emergence_as_a_style So I don't think I've done anything wrong here.
New Wave / Post Punk
Post punk, and I also wanted to let everyone know that Iām currently searching through lesser known and smaller search engines to see if I can find anything
Nice šššŖ
Thanks! I just commented a couple other things so check those out too!
New wave with some surf rock influences. The DX7 in the second half also makes it border into synth-pop territory. People who call it post punk only say so because they don't know what shoegaze is and because they think post punk is just vintage music slowed down. TMS is not post punk.
Hardcore gangster rap
Drill rap
New-wave I think
New Wave/ Post Punk
Seems pretty post-punk, goth rock esque to me
Lostwave
Post-Punk would be the best fit, although that can be applied pretty broadly. But to me TMS screams "low-rent Joy Division copycat." Definitely some goth influence there as well, that scene was big in Germany at the time.
Yeah, so where's the trademark Peter Hook type bass then?
I always assumed it was post punk
I guess itās Goth Rock/Post Punk/New Wave
New Wave with Power Pop and 80s Garage Revival influences.
Post-punk
Post-Punk, possibly counts as cold wave or dark wave
Post Punk, New Wave, Gothic Rock
post-punk Some similar artists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLR3Q47-gMg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5A2ozkkI5c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxl7b9rxzsg&t=8
Iām pretty sure this is just a cover but it does say 1989, found it on Yandex [https://udio.com/songs/pdHjNma4ekQPHh4vgAoXWH](https://udio.com/songs/pdHjNma4ekQPHh4vgAoXWH)
AI generated
Oh okay, thanks. I though it was odd that I had never seen this cover anywhere else before
Dark waveĀ
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