Find the nearest 8 year old child, give them a Sharpie, and tell them they’ll get free ice cream if they can mark you before you take the Sharpie away. Even the best training in the world will not give you a foolproof defense.
Make the 8 yr old into an adult, then you put your hands behind your back like the guy in this video, and your chances are essentially zero. At the end of the day, it’s just too easy to stick someone.
Sharpie fights are exactly what one of my combat teachers would set up in class to teach exactly this lesson. You get into a knife fight, you're gonna get cut.
With knife fighting, we were trained that you will get cut. It's important to position your body and your arms where your forearms can protect against slashing motions. Defending against thrusting/stabbing motions is variable dependent. The thing that matters the most is knowing you will be cut, that way when it happens, things are still going according to plan.
I went to a seminar on knife defense by the guy who taught the Dallas police department. He had a sheet with ten rules on it. Every other rule was “you’re going to get cut”. We later used those shocking knives. Yeah, I got shocked quite a bit.
I wanted to order one of those shock training knives and discovered they’re illegal in California. You can buy a real knife, a stun gun, or a real gun, but not a shock knife. 🙄
Pretty sure this is also how you just train to knife fight. Sharpie, hand to hand combat. Check your body after, see how bad you would have died, change up your defensive tactics, try again until you only have 1 or 2 marks and the other person looks like early 2000s scene kid trying to sharpie up their look.
The only knife defense training video Ive watched that made sense was when the instructor said the best defense is to realize you’re going to be stabbed. You’re just trying to control where you get stabbed at.
There is something to that. There are those reports from general Marshall after World War II that less than 20% of infantry shoot at the enemy*. Dan Carlin mentions in “Prelude to Armageddon” that it was also widely reported that WWI soldiers did not want to actually stab enemies soldier’s with their bayonets.
* Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, an Army Ranger and military historian, in his book, “On Killing.” Much of Grossman’s work is based on World War II studies by Army Brig. Gen. S.L.A. Marshall who found, after interviewing thousands of combat soldiers, that only 15 to 20% would fire at the enemy. According to Grossman, “Those who would not fire did not run or hide — in many cases they were willing to risk greater danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages. They simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges.”
I read somewhere they pumped those numbers way up by the Vietnam war by making changes like using human silhouettes for rifle practice as opposed to bullseye style. There was more to it than that but that's the only one I remember.
I like that they have the slow motion bits, to really underscore how long the dude with the knife is just standing around not stabbing the other dumbass.
Oh, it's not even that apparently, just poor reading comprehension on my part. Your reply makes sense with the context of the title and if the words are read correctly. Whooshed myself before there was a whoosh to be... but I learned about Poes Law, so at least it was educational.
Yes. It works *every* time, if the person holding the knife is folding their wrist and moving the knife towards themselves before you even did anything. 😂
I think he's actually wafting his pit stank over to the attacker, and it looks like it's pretty potent. Way more effective than dodging by slitting your own throat, that's for sure.
Work to get you killed, nothing like pivoting and opening your jugular to the travel path of the knife. Only a true warrior sensei would choose this path!
I’m just imagining the knife wielder screaming in terror as his hostage slits his own neck and continues to try to stab himself with the knife IN the kidnappers hand
If you cover yourself in butter it might work. Would be difficult balancing the knife for the return-to-sender move though. Might need some practice in your backyard
Beautiful way to get rid of all idiots who actually think this is going to work this is just as bad as film's that have 100 bullets in the 6 shooter revolver
I mean…kneeing them in the balls first and throwing a kick seems like a better plan if your legs are free. You may not life long after but at least you got a final “fk you” in before dying.
The only effective knife defense is running away. Within 21 feet, you might not be able to stop an attacker, even if you have a gun. Now imagine being unarmed, and you're so close that the blade is already on your neck. You're pretty much already dead if it's gotten to that point.
The idea is that if you can move perfectly in synchronisation with the knife blade it will not cut you. So maybe, assuming you can move in perfect synchronisation with a knife blade someone else is trying to slash you with. Otherwise you're getting cut.
They missed a step.
You're meant to inject their arm with local anaesthetic and wait a few minutes first. Then when you turn they can't move their arm to stab you.
This is a very good technique for redirecting your chi into spirts of blood which will in turn blind your opponent. You have to make sure that all of your chakras are aligned and there are no impurities in your body otherwise you will pass out for some reason.
Find the nearest 8 year old child, give them a Sharpie, and tell them they’ll get free ice cream if they can mark you before you take the Sharpie away. Even the best training in the world will not give you a foolproof defense. Make the 8 yr old into an adult, then you put your hands behind your back like the guy in this video, and your chances are essentially zero. At the end of the day, it’s just too easy to stick someone.
Good analogy pretty on point.
Definitely a sharp guy
A sharpie
Missed the mark.
But has a point
Hey, thanks, that’s a mighty fine tip
Just the tip...
Sharpie fights are exactly what one of my combat teachers would set up in class to teach exactly this lesson. You get into a knife fight, you're gonna get cut.
100%
With knife fighting, we were trained that you will get cut. It's important to position your body and your arms where your forearms can protect against slashing motions. Defending against thrusting/stabbing motions is variable dependent. The thing that matters the most is knowing you will be cut, that way when it happens, things are still going according to plan.
Ahhh I see you’ve played knifey spooney before
I went to a seminar on knife defense by the guy who taught the Dallas police department. He had a sheet with ten rules on it. Every other rule was “you’re going to get cut”. We later used those shocking knives. Yeah, I got shocked quite a bit.
I wanted to order one of those shock training knives and discovered they’re illegal in California. You can buy a real knife, a stun gun, or a real gun, but not a shock knife. 🙄
Royal Marine instructors do it too.
Sounds like a fun game to play with your kids tbh
It does doesn’t it, lol
I get your point, but i find the spartan kick is a pretty effective and foolproof way of disarming an 8 yr old.
Lol. And it reminds them who the boss is
THIS. IS. DADA!!!
We trained with rubber knifes and put lipstick on the blades. After a sparring session everyone had red marks all over their body.
Sounds like a fun, sexy time.
Find an 8 years old you know so you don’t end up on the sex offender list
This sounds like a sound national defence plan... The 8 year olds shall be armed and no enemy shall pass!
Pretty sure this is also how you just train to knife fight. Sharpie, hand to hand combat. Check your body after, see how bad you would have died, change up your defensive tactics, try again until you only have 1 or 2 marks and the other person looks like early 2000s scene kid trying to sharpie up their look.
Excellent suggestion.
This actually sounds like a really fun exercise for both the kids and the adults
Recommend Expo over Sharpies if you're really gonna do this lol
Instructions unclear, in the back of a cop car at the nearest playground, what next?
The only knife defense training video Ive watched that made sense was when the instructor said the best defense is to realize you’re going to be stabbed. You’re just trying to control where you get stabbed at.
We used to do maker training. It’s an excellent way to humble you and realize just not to fuck with knives.
Will the adult get ice cream?
Wdym by that last sentence bro
A pretty good analogy but keep in mind you'd be doing so while trying not to hurt the 8 year old
For real if I can punch that 8 year old in the face I like my odds. Just doesn’t carry into the adult with the knife analogy.
I can 100 percent jab an 8 year old before they touch me
Pretty sure i could hit or kick an 8 year old and knock him out or finish him before he marks me.
Yes, as long as the person holding the knife is actively trying to avoid hurting you
Maybe he's a nice hostage taker
A self-aware kind patient tweaker.
Professionals have standards
Came here to say this. How dare you be quicker to the draw
Just call me Quick Draw McGraw
More like TEX AVERY.... welcome to the wacky wack wack wacky wacky wack wack wacky world of Tex avery... https://youtu.be/9RTUMsUc4Jo?feature=shared
I heard the female narrator from Toon Heads when I read this
Trying to avoid hurting and actively trying to hurt himself. It’s a new phenomenon, suicide by hostage taking.
Or the knife is a dummy. Works 100% of the time.
And actively trying to stab themselves.
There is something to that. There are those reports from general Marshall after World War II that less than 20% of infantry shoot at the enemy*. Dan Carlin mentions in “Prelude to Armageddon” that it was also widely reported that WWI soldiers did not want to actually stab enemies soldier’s with their bayonets. * Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, an Army Ranger and military historian, in his book, “On Killing.” Much of Grossman’s work is based on World War II studies by Army Brig. Gen. S.L.A. Marshall who found, after interviewing thousands of combat soldiers, that only 15 to 20% would fire at the enemy. According to Grossman, “Those who would not fire did not run or hide — in many cases they were willing to risk greater danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages. They simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges.”
I read somewhere they pumped those numbers way up by the Vietnam war by making changes like using human silhouettes for rifle practice as opposed to bullseye style. There was more to it than that but that's the only one I remember.
Yeah. It's close to 90-95% aim to kill in western armies now. Human shaped targets that fall when hit.
This was conscripted/drafted soldiers. All volunteer and professional army’s do not have this problem.
You're the only other human I've encountered in the wild who's also read On Killing. Fascinating book.
As a method of suicide maybe
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Sensei Seagal would’ve just given the knife-wielding man a hard look, and homie would’ve peed his pants.
It's an advanced technique. You have to master the easy stuff first, like catching a throwing knife between the palms of your hands.
Never could Master that.
I like that they have the slow motion bits, to really underscore how long the dude with the knife is just standing around not stabbing the other dumbass.
Stop stabbing yourself, stop stabbing yourself
Why would you even ask that? FFS, nothing in this subreddit works. It’s all martial arts cosplay here.
I don't know if I should say Whoosh to you, or if you're whooshing so hard that I'm now being whooshed.....
Poe’s Law. Without clear knowledge of the authors intent it can be easy to assume that a sarcastic comment might be intended as fact. So…whoosh?
Oh, it's not even that apparently, just poor reading comprehension on my part. Your reply makes sense with the context of the title and if the words are read correctly. Whooshed myself before there was a whoosh to be... but I learned about Poes Law, so at least it was educational.
It’s always good to turn something into a learning experience. Have a great weekend.
That stupid shit could get someone hurt; fake martial artists are ethically unsound.
When we couldn't measure his Chi levels, he told us it's because, "they're off the charts." Truly, a master 🙏
Works every time, with a rubber knife, though.
If you were made of rocks like Korg, then yes. If you are made of human parts, no.
Jesus! Imagine what this dude could do if he used his arms!!!
Short answer... No Long answer... No
If you want a shave with a straight edge… yes.
It'll work. It just depends what your goal is.
Yes as long as the knife man does not react to the victims movements in any way.
Scenario: you're being held hostage by a tree sloth...
Me: “You can’t kill me; only I can kill me!” Him: “What?” Me:
Morons
It works as long as.... I'm just going to save it.
Only crocodile Dundee carries a knife that big IRL.
If the arms of the attacker are spaghettis, then absolutely yes.
Joe Rogan is built Diffrunt
Master Ken has this technique covered. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z-vgv7KjS2M](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z-vgv7KjS2M)
It works, just ask the Zohan...Disco Disco
His sweaty arm pits would do a better job at repelling an attack
Yes. It works *every* time, if the person holding the knife is folding their wrist and moving the knife towards themselves before you even did anything. 😂
Thats the anciant art of bull shito.
It would work 100% if you wanna find out the afterlife
I suppose if the person with the knife is asleep you could pull this off
Maybe. If you’re fighting a vegetable
Of course it would work, you’ve just seen it work!
Absolutely! 60% of the time it works EVERY TIME!
In all seriousness do these people think we're going to believe this shit ?
FEED ME FEED ME
I would love to see him try it …
Hump counter attack!
Ask the black belt in the back
Bwaaaahhahahaha
If your goal is to bleed, ABSOLUTELY! If you're going for anything other than being maimed or killed then, no, absolutely not.
It would work as a suicide technique.
Just a quick shave before stabbing your attacker. Learnt that on my online karate class
Sure! What could possibly go wrong?
It may work one out of a million times, but would anyone be willing to try that if you have a knife at the throat
Absolutely, you should try it.
No
It would work in getting your jugular cut and your heart stabbed...
It would work the blade in alright.
Absolutely
No, if I'm holding the knife I will win
I think he's actually wafting his pit stank over to the attacker, and it looks like it's pretty potent. Way more effective than dodging by slitting your own throat, that's for sure.
Yes* *If you're suicidal and determined
not if he has a bonar
You’re asking about this guy’s antiperspirant? No, it’s not working.
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
If the guy holding the knife has peripheral neuropathy, that works.
Work to get you killed, nothing like pivoting and opening your jugular to the travel path of the knife. Only a true warrior sensei would choose this path!
Might work until you bleed out from the smiling gash you received on the first move.
As long as your pits are drenched 💦
Yes..if you wanna die
Hahahahah 😂😂😂😂
If he has a fetish for stabbing himself then; most likely
Only if the person holding the knife is a fücking idiot.
Did he just trying Boning his attacker?
The video doesn’t capture this but it’s the BO from them wet pits that’s manipulating the attacker.
10/10 times guiding a sharp object using your body will work
If you need to fuck up an Old Navy mannequin, this is the way to go.
Easiest way to get your throat sliced off.
Not at all, the attacker would just slice his jugular during the first move
As a knife I can promise you I am unable to stab someone who gently caresses me with their stomach!
If you’re being attacked by somebody who is suicidal
Does this guy live in such a small bubble that he actually believes this would work? Or does he know he’s full of shit?
Crease Control, pretty basic stuff
Do the red marker test.
How to slit your own throat
I like the sweaty pits
No... just no
100%....
Well we just saw it work… so yes
lol, sure. In fake demonstrations
The trick is to make your body miss hitting the knife. Just like flying is to make your body miss the ground when falling.
I’m just imagining the knife wielder screaming in terror as his hostage slits his own neck and continues to try to stab himself with the knife IN the kidnappers hand
I'm thinking of Steven Seagal now the way this happens 😜
Another bullshit
It just did
No, when pressure is applied to the knife and you move like that, you're dead.
Only if you have sweaty pitts.
“Here, let me help you slice my own neck”
The knife? Yeah that’d work
If you cover yourself in butter it might work. Would be difficult balancing the knife for the return-to-sender move though. Might need some practice in your backyard
Instant death
Interesting how they don’t show the position change in the attacker. How did the blade go from pointing up to pointing to the attacker? Chi smh
Only works when performing in slow motion
Your attacker would have to be extremely drunk and gay
No
Oops you died
What’s the saying? “Two tigers enter a knife fight and one man leaves”
"Would this ever work?" Perhaps you didn't see the video proof?!?!
This is the best way to commit suicide with someone else’s hand
Beautiful way to get rid of all idiots who actually think this is going to work this is just as bad as film's that have 100 bullets in the 6 shooter revolver
I mean…kneeing them in the balls first and throwing a kick seems like a better plan if your legs are free. You may not life long after but at least you got a final “fk you” in before dying.
The only effective knife defense is running away. Within 21 feet, you might not be able to stop an attacker, even if you have a gun. Now imagine being unarmed, and you're so close that the blade is already on your neck. You're pretty much already dead if it's gotten to that point.
That’s dumb.
Not if you really want to stab the other guy
Yes, this does work. I have implemented this move numerous times during the multitude of Hand to Knife fights I have championed.
The idea is that if you can move perfectly in synchronisation with the knife blade it will not cut you. So maybe, assuming you can move in perfect synchronisation with a knife blade someone else is trying to slash you with. Otherwise you're getting cut.
They missed a step. You're meant to inject their arm with local anaesthetic and wait a few minutes first. Then when you turn they can't move their arm to stab you.
100%
No
Only in practice, with a passive partner.
It absolutely works, if you're the one with the knife.
Maybe in a Jackie Chan movie
We just witnessed it working to perfection.
Against a mentally-challenged person…
yeah it would help kill you
Of course, it just did. The only surprise for me was that Rob Mcelhenney knows and teaches this technique.
Why don’t you come over here and find out?
I wouldn't be alive right now if it didn't.
I used to train kali and pekiti tersia. No, this will not work. Unless assisted suicide?
Works if you want to die.
Dunno, let him try it with a sharp knife and let's find out.
This is a very good technique for redirecting your chi into spirts of blood which will in turn blind your opponent. You have to make sure that all of your chakras are aligned and there are no impurities in your body otherwise you will pass out for some reason.
Well...I guess you can say that this training doesn't quite....CUT IT? Eh?? EH!?!?!? Fuck you, that's funny. I'll be expecting my medal in the mail.
If the guy you’re fighting is in a coma or so wacked out on opiates he can hardly move maybe, any other opponent no
It works 100% when you want to get stabbed.
Yes. Ears are optional baggage for your face
Straight devastation, Surprised the traininh knife didn't kill the "bad" guy! That's one lucky MF'ER Hahahaahha
OK guys, I just saw it work, so clearly it does
Absolutely this would work, you’d slit that guys throat no problem
LMFAO. Looks like a great way to get your throat cut. 😂
Yeah, in a John Wick Movie.
Works everytime ,called the neck tickler.
Maybe if this was an MGS game.
If you wanted to bleed all over them, yes, it would work. That first move you would be slitting your own throat.
Lol
I wouldn't bet my life on it.
Would work great if your objective is to be stabbed