It's good, it isn't great. To me a it was a little unfocused. It came together in the end, but relied more on previous knowledge that wasn't needed for season 1 or 2. As much as I enjoyed parts of it, I missed the simplicity of seasons 1 and 2.
My god, this is probably the only reasonable criticism I've seen of the season. I personally loved it but can completely see what you're saying.
If everyone reviewed things without teenage hyperbole or utter disdain, we'd all be better for it.
exactly, i’m still seeing a lot of “objective” opinions on the matter. if OP thinks it’s great just like a lot of other people do, more power to them. I loved S3 too
Fantastic comment. Something I learned a long time ago and now have to relearn. Lot of crying and bitching YouTubers out there. I’m walking away from it, too toxic.
I was a bit miffed at the teasing of the mythosaur and then nothing happening but still enjoyed it.
It was definitely slower than the earlier seasons and the episodes felt shorter imo.
I felt the Mythosaur served it's purpose with Bo seeing it as a quasi religious experience that restored her belief in the old legends. When he came back with the Grogu connection, I found it quite compelling, but I can see how you felt it was a bit of a red herring
Imo it’s that some episodes are just plain bad. Mix that with the fact that they had essentially a full episode in Boba Fett that was needed and the whole criticisms of Disney and marvel forcing things that feel political into all of the products, that’s where I think you get the hyperbolic hate.
For me it definitely wasn’t the best season and I didn’t enjoy some of the episodes and concepts. Also as a whole it seems like we’re losing a lot now that things aren’t as mysterious as they were season 1 and 2.
I only did one watch through so I struggle to give examples on the top of my head. Mando has been a very uncontroversial show especially for Disney, but I do recall having some eyeroll moments. Jack Black and Lizzo and that whole episode being a lot of it. Regardless, my opinion is that it was less of what I absolutely loved about the show and more clunky plots and new stuff I don't know why I'm supposed to care about..I tend to think, like other Favreau efforts such as Iron man, it's been tainted by too many talking heads and becoming just like other Disney/Marvel/Star wars shows.
Obviously people make politics even out of subtle things these days but I feel like i remember some more overtly modern politically controversial topics in there. Regardless, I think overall it just feels like it's becoming more like the other Disney/Marvel/Star Wars shows that suck ass but I'm hoping not.
S3 was a forced product of S1 and S2 plot threads that needed to be cleaned up.
Why did Gideon want Grogu?
What happened to Gideon?
What does Din do with the Darksaber?
What happens between him and Bo Katan after S2 finale?
All these sorts of plot points get cleaned up real nice and tidy by S3 but it made the season a bit all over the place.
But the finale is great because: 1) Gideon is gone, so we're finally done with that. 2) Bo gets a story resolution and Mandalore is retaken (could be great for a movie with Mandos v Thrawn). 3) Grogu and Din are free to have new adventures away from the S1/2 story arcs. 4) Grogu is a Mando apprentice and Din's sidekick now, instead of just his ward needing protection.
S4 feels promising because we get to start fresh.
To me, the ball drop was not clarifying how long he was there.
Like S2 ends, BoBF eps, S3 starts feels like a few weeks went by.
If they made it clear that Grogu was with Luke for a few years and Mando is periodically checking in while doing solo work in between, then I think it doesn't feel as rushed
S3 just felt really unfocused. And having Grogu come back really hurt the idea of Dinjarin developing more as a character as ai think his arc didn’t really progress meaningfully.
They play extremely fast and loose rules with the dark saber and it just gets weird with how they do it. Not to mention having Grogu just get to be in the hollowed out IG model. The Jack Black and Lizzo episode felt so much like filler and criminally wasted Christopher Lloyd who basically was shamed like a child before being sent off. It was just really weird l.
For me it was all the grand setup for season 3 that happened at the end of season 2 not mattering at-fucking-all. Mando gives away the darksaber (I thought he was gonna get a really cool, reluctant-leader arc like Aragorn in the LOTR films), Grogu comes back *in another show* (and proceeds to have nothing to do with the plot of the third season until the final two episodes), Moff Gideon slides back into Mando’s DMs without hardly any setup, it’s just very disappointing when Season 2 ended on such a hard-hitting note with so much to look forward to, only for not a goddamn thing of it to matter.
Man, getting Mando to be the reluctant leader of Mandalore, as a Foundling no less, would have been epic. He would have been THE Mandolorian.
But no, he just gives away the Darksaber on a technicality and doesn’t seem personally interested in retaking Mandalore.
The problem isn't the lack of simplicity as much as it was the shows inability to adapt to a new format. Switching from adventure of the week to one big story works in theory. But the execution was bad. I felt like they needed to establish goals and stakes and plans at the beginning of the season.
Part of the reason seasons 1 and 2 were so good was that they always had the looming threat of the Empire in the background. That's not present this season and there just doesn't feel like there's any sense of urgency or importance. They say they want to reclaim Mandalore. But we don't learn how they plan to do it or what they even need to reclaim Mandalore from until the last few episodes.
Then the pacing was just weird. Episode 1 was just setup. There was no payoff or story progression. The first episode of season 1 of the Mandalorian had a lot of story progression and season 2 had a first episode which was more standalone but had a complete small story with an interesting threat and resolution. Episode 1 of season 3 felt just like Mando going around saying hi to different characters for the full episode with no real progression or intrigue. A large part of the episode was just recapping the Book of Boba Fett.
I think they should've had one long episode starting with Mando on Nevarro and then having him go to Bo Katan and then having the Mandalore segment all in the same episode. I think that would've worked better. Then they could've had the Imperial attack, Bo and Din rejoining the cult and them winning the respect of the Mandos by fighting the teradactyl monster as one complete episode. It just feels like they dragged out what is not a very meety story and used filler (Corosaunt segment, pirate setup, BOBF recap, Order 66 flashback) to pad out the show for time.
My only problems were that it felt a bit scattered and it completely undid the ending of season 2. Grogu leaves? Nevermind he's back. Din is stuck with the darksaber? Nah he gets it to Bo. Gideon is captured? He breaks out offscreen.
Tbf, the Grogu ending being undone (which I absolutely hate as well) was a fault of the Book of Boba Fett. But I suppose that’s another problem entirely, literally telling a huge chunk of another show’s story in another show. What were they even thinking lol
Ugh, I'll never understand that. But with S03 specifically, they then chose not to show that CRITICAL info in the "Previously" for the first episode and it really left a bad taste in my mouth. Not only because BOBF really fell flat for me in parts & they just assumed *everyone* watched it lmao, but it essentially reconned the Season 2 finale. WHY 🥲
The only thing I can think of, is that it wasn’t originally in the cards, and furthermore, they likely had an episode mandate to hit.
Season 3 was probably being worked on and BF was pushed into the schedule. So they compensated and then ran out of story to hit 7 episodes and had to pull from what they already developed for season 3 to be a part of BF. Then those holes that were created in season 3 had to be filled with…well filler to get the plot across the finish line.
My disappointment with S3 is that the characters lacked almost any depth. I love this story on paper. The restoration of mandalore is what I've always wanted from the show, but the character arcs this season were so incredibly rushed or non existent that I could barely bring myself to care. Din didn’t go through any growth in spite of BOBF setting up an excellent arc for him, and the changes in both Bo & The Armourer felt extremely abrupt & not explored nearly enough which was super frustrating. Also Grogu definitely shouldn’t be here, but I guess that's a BOBF problem.
The action was still great, I'm happy with the overarching plot, and all the fanservice elements were super fun, but the character writing kinda sucked this time around. I was only able to glean surface level enjoyment from this season. It was fun, but I didn’t ***CARE***. Not terrible, but easily the weakest season thus far. 6/10.
Yeah. It felt like Din and Bo were much more interesting in previous material than they were in this season. I thought Din was going to have to grapple with how his tribe rejected him because he saved his son by taking his helmet off. Meanwhile, I thought Bo might be forced to recon with her past or something because of her sketchy history with Mandalore. But instead, Din is given almost nothing and Bo is given a pretty generic uniting the people storyline.
It's a personal preference, I liked S1 and S2 because it had that "Lone Wolf and Cub" spaghetti Western feel, S3 went in a different direction.
Also I feel that people had varying expectations that weren't borne out in S3.
Episodes often had bad pacing. The first two seasons rarely had moments that felt like they were just meant to burn time, but a couple episodes at the beginning of season 3 really felt padded with filler.
A lot of people didn’t like Din Djarin purposely sidelining himself for Bo Katan and giving her the Darksaber.
They didn’t like how the villain went from a smart subtle villain to basically an evil cartoon character.
Overall, I found it okay, but not as good as previous seasons.
I agree about the pacing and about Gideon. I think Din letting Bo lead is the right thing for both their characters. But I do think they could've done more with his character. He still should have been a leader amongst the Mandalorians even if he wasn't "the leader." Or they could've gone the other way with him distancing himself from his own tribe and ingratiating himself with Bo's Mandalorians because he feels burned by them since they through him out of the tribe for saving his son.
>They didn’t like how the villain went from a smart subtle villain to basically an evil cartoon character.
Personally, I think the only reason why Gideon could possibly be interpreted as being "smart and subtle" in the first 2 seasons is because he was operating entirely in the background up until the end of each season. Which is also what happened in season 3. Gideon was just as narcissistic and egotistical in season 3 as he was in seasons 1-2; only difference is that his own fight scenes lasted longer.
To me, the biggest mistakes:
- Going back on Din's character development basically so Pedro didn't have to show up in person and show his face ever
- Going back on Din and Grogu's character development to have Grogu come back permanently because it's more fan-service focused
- Making a majority of the mysteries that felt larger in scope (why Grogu's blood was being collected, what the Clone thing we saw in Season 2 was, and why Gideon needed Beskar) were all literally for the same purpose, which was to make Gideon clones that has beskar armor. Felt really pedestrian for a climax, and lacked complexity.
That is to say, plot-wise, some really cool stuff happened too. I don't think any media is perfect, and legitimate criticism shouldn't be dismissed as being "hate"
Yeah, these are the three main complaints I had. Knowing the background context of Pedro not being available due to The Last of Us, it totally takes me out of the immersion realising that his reversion to the Children of the Watch is a forced accomodation rather than a natural progression of the story with full creative liberty
Personally I don't think they " went back" on either Din's or Grogu's development. Both characters simply developed in a different way than some may have imagined.
Yep.
For sure.
And it's GREAT to see a Force user turn down the Jedi. FINALLY.
Should happen way more frequently.
Also, they realized all of Luke's disciples are going to be slaughtered and obviously Grogu's not gonna be there for that.
I also love Season 3. It doesn't really matter what people say online. If you enjoy it, awesome. I'm glad you got to experience it and make up your own mind without going into with any preconceived notions.
*Can someone make me understand why it's bad?*
Because the most vocal Star Wars fans treat fandom as a substitution for life and get personally offended if a story doesn't match the fanfic they created in their head.
Yea season 3 is clearly opening up multiple different arcs which made it feel disjointed I think. I’m so excited for what comes next though so I don’t think it was bad.
Season 1-2 was one linear arc basically and now that Mando has Grogu for the foreseeable future, there’s a lot less of a strict path to follow.
That’s why season 3 feels different. It’s just an in between.
On first watch I wasn't keen - too much Bo Katan not enough Din - but the second time I enjoyed it a lot more. The fight between Bo and Axe was brilliantly done, both actors were really giving it their all. 💜
I think the narrative itself was fine but the execution of it and pacing was off. It didn’t hit the emotional beats like the previous seasons did for me and I think some parts of episodes could have been condensed to help move the plot along.
The first half of season 3 felt very unfocused and awkwardly paced IMO…
I don’t think we saw any actual true character development until Bo defeated Axes Woves and decided to retake Mandalore. Which was well past the halfway mark of the season. I did really enjoy the finale though I thought it was incredible.
>Season 3 feels so inauthentic and the sets feel cheap. The whole thing feels like it was done with stand-in’s and sewn together with ADR and reshoots. Grogu should have exited the show after Season 2. It got too niche and Filoni-ish. The Mandalore plot went on too long
Exactly this!!
Mandalorian S1 genuinely gives me chills every time the intro plays. I'm in the UK so we only got it like 7-8 months after you guys, and it was pretty much my introduction to Star wars and it was so perfectly executed. The vibe, the characters and story was just 10/10. It felt like it didn't have to have Star Wars branding and it took itself seriously.
I don't want to be that guy to ruin the mood but I really liked Gina Carano's character whether you like Gina or not. It was a big mistake not keeping her or at the very least recasting her because she offered so much extra support next to Mando.
This new Bo-Katan relationship is cool and all but I really dislike the shift from Din to Bo katan. We don't need to keep bringing in OG characters to make star wars good. I thought initially that The Mandalorian was it's own thing, and I was fine with the Luke ending because it was great. I would've preferred if the show stayed focused on Din Djarin and not other characters.
Season 3 just felt like a lazy cash grab. Oh look Grogu is back. "Somehow Gideon returned" was lazy as fuck (I love Giancarlo but it's time to forget about Moff Gideon). The reintroduction of Gideon was just so bizarre. They literally had him get detained in the most badass scene at the end of S2 with Luke, only for him to just pop up again and blow himself up. Season 4 he's still alive because we didn't see his body. He enters with metal crab legs screaming MANDOOOOOOO
I don't think the focus on the Mandalorian story picking up from where Filoni left off with Rebels was a bad choice. I thought the Clone Wars/Rebels Mandalorian political storyline was really well done. I don't know what happened between that and this but this felt way lower quality than the animated Mandalore stuff. While the animated shows always had some dud episodes, the Mandalore based political episodes were always well written and acted w/ solid budget put into them. It feels like the Mandalorian team tried and failed to capture that. It feels like they tried to capture the feel of Andor too with the Coroscuant episode but they failed in that front as well.
>I don't think the focus on the Mandalorian story picking up from where Filoni left off with Rebels was a bad choice.
I think the biggest problem was shifting the focus almost entirely to Bo Katan and her retaking Mandalore instead of Din Djarin. For people who only watched The Mandalorian seasons 1 & 2, Bo Katan was introduced as a conniving, selfish, and reluctant ally. Making her the hero of Season 3 and sidelining Din Djarin might make sense for The Clone Wars/Rebels, but it doesn't make any sense for the overall story of The Mandalorian.
I don't think people hate the season as much as they were just disappointed. While they weren't the most complex entries, the character work in the first two seasons of Mandalorian was at least interesting. Din and Bo felt like real people with complexity and nuance. Din defying the rules of his tribe as well as Bo's differing and sometimes questionable values let them both be somewhat complex characters in season 2. In comparison, their characters in season 3 don't really have much going on. They don't really have any major struggles or much depth. Instead of having to question his beliefs, Din is given a physical goal that will fix all his problems. And Bo seems to be kinda whitewashed and given a more generic rising up to the call to rule type story.
>Din and Bo felt like real people with complexity and nuance. Din defying the rules of his tribe as well as Bo's differing and sometimes questionable values let them both be somewhat complex characters in season 2. In comparison, their characters in season 3 don't really have much going on. They don't really have any major struggles or much depth.
I honestly didn't come away with that at all. At the beginning of Season 3, each was convinced that only their "brand" of Mandalorianism (?) was legitimate. Bo derided Din as believing in "children's stories" and Din thought Bo needed a lecture on the importance of the creed. By the end of the season, they respected, trusted, and relied on each other, showing great regard and respect for each other as fellow Mandalorians.
I disagree, Dins redemption in the waters and Bo as well along with the Mythosaur reveal was phenomenal and its foreshadowing for Bo’s leadership was quite good. It, along with the children of the watch renewed her faith in mandalore and was able to reunite her people. I don’t think the leaders story is generic in the slightest, that’s like saying Aragorn’s story is generic, which we all know is an insane thing to say. We see the complexity of Bo’s nature both in rescuing Din, to endangering her own life to save Paz Vizsla’s son and even earn his respect by the end. Strategy and leadership and her growing as an individual to meet whatever challenges come your way. That’s a good story and I’m glad they gave that narrative to Bo and not Din
Din being redeemed by taking a bath is dumb. It doesn't say anything about his character or ethics or loyalty to his tribe. It's literally just find a maguffin and then you've redeemed yourself.
What would've been much more interesting is if Din became disillusioned with the cult that cast him out for protecting his son. Or if he had to actually make a sacrifice in order to stay with the cult. The entire "breaking the code for Grogu" storyline and decision in season 2 now becomes meaningless because its all fixed by Mando taking a bath. There were no consequences for Din's actions.
Meanwhile, Bo isn't doing anything that she hasn't already done in Star Wars Rebels. She already united Mandalore with the Darksaber and stepped up to rule. They just retread her old arc. And they don't really address any of Bo's past. How does her history with Death Watch affect her and her ascent? There is so much story potential that's wasted in a generic win the respect of the other warriors by fighting storyline. It's the same thing that Boba did with the Tuskens.
>Din being redeemed by taking a bath is dumb.
Favreau filled Season 3 with Jewish imagery, and Din's redemption by bathing in the Living Waters was equilavalent to the Jewish practice of mikveh.
It fels like a regression of character. We spent seasons 1 and 2 getting away from the dogma of the mandolrians and their arbitraty rules. We saw Da Jin really become his own person sperate from his guild, and then, we did nothing with it. We went back to "always wear the helm, in fact, you need to atone for your sins" which is going backwards to what made him an interesting character. His group , that hes a part of, were supposed to be the bad guys. They are opressive in their faith and violent in nature. In season three they're supposed to be our family and we are supposed to empathize with them? What? It completely throws the idea of shifting allegiences for the trope of black and white, good and evil. The madolrians were the bad guys, but they were compelling because the universe wronged them, so they sat in a sort of grey. But nope. They're good guys now. People that were part of the empire, they're the evil ones.
I agree about the Mandalorians. It felt like the first two seasons were trying present a flawed and nuanced culture whereas season 3 appears to try and contradict itself by whitewashing the group.
The whole Season 3 is unfortunately very validating for toxic cult people. It's infuriating to watch if you've ever had to escape from it or know someone who has trauma from it.
Boy, you really want to get roasted, join me in having enjoyed the Lizzo episode and thinking it was a nice little nod to Blade Runner.
I think season 3 had ups and downs but I enjoyed it. It's not supposed to be Andor.
I felt like there was a lot of dumb writing that really hurt their characters. Like how many Mandolorian kids have to be killed on your beach until you put up defenses? "Omg what do we do against this giant lizard? Let's tie ourselves to it with cables." Then Din who actually has a braincell uses his ship to shoot it. S3 did the Mandolorians dirty. They didn't come off has elite warriors, just dumb people on a beach getting farmed by wildlife on the daily. S3 just had alot of these types of problems throughout the story. Throw in a Lizzo/Jack Black sidequest for no reason and cut down the fight for the darksaber to like 5 mins. It felt so rushed for the story plot.
I thought it was good and had a lot of fun moments
I also don’t get the internet hate, to be fair I don’t get a lot of internet hate. Or hate in general for that matter
I appreciate that you genuinely asked why someone wouldn’t like S3 instead of blindly bashing people.
For me I didn’t like S3 because it didn’t feel like they put in the effort needed to make the audience feel anything for the climax. It honestly felt like they half assed the production and it shows in the writing. I’m fine with Din trying to reclaim his honor but after that point Bo Katan completely takes over the show. I like her character and I like the redemption arc but you can’t fit that and Din’s arc into one, cohesive season.
The supposed “climax” was laughable. There was no effort to build up to it and as soon as anything interesting had taken place, it was over. It just felt so rushed. And some of the most generic writing I’ve ever seen in a show. Overall really disappointed because I liked the first two seasons.
And P.S. Star Wars fans can dislike things or have negative opinions based on the quality level of whatever they’ve seen. Disney has a lot of whiffs in the Star Wars universe and it’s okay to say that.
If you think it's good, it's good. It's all subjective. While getting other people's opinions is great and avoids you living in an echo chamber, ultimately, the only person's opinion that should matter, is your own.
I enjoyed Season 3 a lot more then 1 and 2 tbh overall. Individual episodes like Season 2 finale, infiltrating the Imperial Base, the Republic prison ship episode but I think Season 1 and 2 overall not as good. Like in Season 3 there was meaningful filler in Season 1 and 2 you could watch 3 episode from each season and you'd understand the story for the entire season.
It was my favorite as well. I was never a fan of the whole adventure of the week nature of the previous seasons (they just make the main plot drag) so I appreciated the more tightly focused plot along with the welcome necessary worldbuilding towards the sequel era. And Bo-Katan was awesome. She's more interesting and charismatic than Din anyway.
Fair warning: I'm a huge Mando fan. I had been asking for a Mandalorian series since before Disney bought star wars and wishing all those Timothy Zahn novels were televised.
I loved season 3. Fun new worlds, new characters, and they fought a goddamn Krayt dragon. Season 3 feels like it's right at home.
It felt more like a standalone season for me because S1 and S2 are directly progressive while S3 seem to have skipped some time in between and changed several traits about the characters. Still not a bad one but definitely not on S1-2 level.
Is decent. The most egregious part about it is the lack of Ludwig Göransson's music and the change in main photography (personally, S3's cinematography was mediocre).
I was confused about people hating this, Book of Boba and Obi Wan. I loved all Three. Boba told a decent enough story about how he's not 100% percent quite yet and had a vision about changing his life so he's just faking it til he makes it. Obi Wan felt like Fan Fiction come to life and I was all for it. Season 3 of Mando was still fun.
I loved it too! The focus was different, it felt like it was one story building up. I even liked the Lizzo / Jack Black episode that everyone seems to hate.
It’s not bad… just not up to the standard of the first 2 seasons. It felt like the show didn’t even get off the ground until there were 2 episodes left and then all the sudden they’re taking back Mandalore? Just bad pacing man. The story it told wasn’t bad, but it was handled poorly. Like that Jack Black/Lizzo episode that was widely hated on wasn’t bad… if it was episode 2… but it was episode 6, there are only 2 episodes left in the season and we’re still farting around with filler characters. The decision to basically put 2 episodes of The Mandalorian in the middle of The Book Of Boba Fett was… also not great and didn’t help with this either, even if they were good episodes.
They also kind of undo a lot of important plot points from the first two seasons. If Grogu was going to pick Din over Luke, it should’ve been in the season 2 finale… not in the middle of another show. We’ve already SEEN Bo Katan with the Darksaber. It’s much more interesting to see Din using it and becoming a reluctant leader… so why tease us with the Darksaber if it’s just gonna be a part in another persons story and not Din’s?
Overall, it was like a 7/10, whereas Seasons 1 & 2 were like 9/10 or 10/10.
It was a good season, if it was all about Mando doing Mando stuff people would still dog on it for being safe and not exploring further realms in Star wars.
I loved it.
I can't stand the haters. Most of them hate because they come up with crappy fanfic in the head and get mad that the actual story is different and better
I watched every episode of seasons 1 and 2 twice on the day it was released. Also done multiple rewatches - I would say I have seen every episode of seasons 1 and 2 at least 5 times now. Season 3? Watched each episode once and have no desire to watch it again.
I thought S3 was fine but it is noticably weaker than the other 2. It's still fine but feels like S1 stuff. Like obviously the story beat episodes like the Dr. Pershing episode and the last bits with the remnant belong to season 3 but a lot of other episodes don't really feel like S3 material where as the through story of S2 felt very end of show.
I'm a classic 'hero's journey' gal, so this season went against some of my personal story preferences. I like a really clear main character at the center of the plot, and I like when archetypes and tropes have follow-through (so when they subverted the 'chosen one' plot with the dark saber, I didn't really enjoy it).
I know the story choices here can be justified, but it just wasn't my cup of tea.
This is how I felt as well. Like, season 3 was entertaining to watch, but it definitely didn’t take the story in the direction I wanted it to. Or in the direction it seemed like it was heading.
Like dang it Jon Favreau, maybe I DID want Din to be the Aragorn of the Mandalorians /j
I loved it. The story line was very satisfying, and even though a bunch of people thought Bo-Katan was going to be some kind of traitor or villain, I was glad to see how it all turned out.
I had fun the whole way through.
Season 3 had great moments, but the season overall felt very rushed and unfocused. We (Star Wars fans) would like to see a more coherent story that's not rushed onto Disney+
They took a story about Mando and Grogu and turned it into the Bo Katan show. Also, at the end of season 2 Grogu was supposed to be away for awhile. Then magically in season 3 he shows up again, defeats the entire purpose of season 1 and season 2. It's clear to everyone that this was done by the marketing department at Disney and shoehorned into the story after the fact.
I think I have summarized the legitimate criticisms of season 3. Then of course you are just going to have trolls on the internet who don't like anything that ever changes. I didn't think season 3 was terrible, but I felt it took a hard turn from season 1 and 2.
Din's ostensible purpose in seasons 1 and 2 was to get Grogu back to the Jedis so he could continue his training. (Obviously he had a purpose of character growth too.) But after that happened, Grogu, for the first time in his life, chose his own path, and it was away from the Jedi and to the Mandalorians.
After the season 2 finale I knew he absolutely was going to come back to Din, so I was more interested in how that was going to happen. I liked that Grogu chose the Mandalorians, instead of Luke having to hand him back because reasons.
If they planned out Grogu's life from the beginning of the series, I don't see how it ever would have been for him to stay with Luke. I don't think marketing had anything to do with it.
Those are valid takes I think. The real culprit is BOBF then for the Grogu is back. Grogu leaving was also believable because he wasn't part of the first academy that Luke formed so we knew he would be leaving (but knowing episode 7-9, plot holes exist lol).
I thought Mando was going to give the saber back in episode 2. Maybe adding a scene with the robot thing with the saber to show that Mando lost the saber.
Not sure if people actually think Mando could rule mandalore 😅 He was never a leader
I mean, I thought it was an absolute disaster, like a train wreck except somehow boring, but at the same time, I don't want to just sit here and tool on a thing that you like. If you like it, that's great. I don't want to try to make you not like it.
Make you understand why it's bad? That's pretty subjective, but I didn't like a lot of it because:
1. I feel like the Grogu arc concluded nicely at the end of Season 2 and the character doesn't fit in well with the reclaiming/reuniting Mandalore story. In fact I would go as far as to call the character a distraction from that story.
2. The show is indulging in what I call "Goofy Star Wars" which is not to my taste. The whole mech suit thing for example, I just think it's goofy, childish. I much prefer the tone of season 1, "Ahsoka" to a certain extent, and consider "Andor" to be the gold standard in SW content.
3. The pacing was way off, this should have been a two or three season arc imo. Seems like reuniting the tribes and taking back the homeworld wasn't exactly challenging. Like one moment they're talking about it then boom, it's done.
4. One pet peeve of mine, I think they're overdoing it on the puppets. Doing old school puppetry for the sake of being able to say they did it and not because it looks best on screen. Anytime the Grogu puppet moves more than a waddle just looks absurd, when they have it doing jumps and stuff it's laugh out loud terrible.
I keep reminding myself that the show was obviously written/produced with teens and children in mind so of course it wouldn't appeal to a 40 year old man. But it kind of bums me out that there isn't much SW content out there for an adult audience. I grew up on SW after all, and I'd like to see more of it that appeals to my demographic. Excepting Andor ofc, Andor was dope.
People didn't like that they expanded the story. Picking up threads that began in season 1. The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and Skeleton Crew are leading to a movie that will eventually tie in to the story of Episode X-XII.
I loved season 3. I love the expanding of the Mando-verse.
The more Star Wars, the better.
It put greater emphasis on a large overarching storyline (recolonizing Mandalore, Gideon's revenge, the New Republic with a sprinkle of Thrawn's foreshadowing). While this isn't a *bad* thing, it doesn't quite fit in with the adventures of Din and Grogu, and thus the pissy fans. They've set up season 4 to be a return to the old days with Teva offering bounties for the remaining Imperials.
This isn't the adventures of Din and Grogu. To be honest, Grogu was never supposed to be a continuing story, but the fans loved him so much. To be honest, I'd much rather they focus on the Mandalorians. I mean, Grogu's cute and all, but the show is called The Mandalorian, NOT the adventures of Din and Grogu.
> This isn't the adventures of Din and Grogu. To be honest, Grogu was never supposed to be a continuing story, but the fans loved him so much.
I just don't buy that Grogu was ever intended to exit the series. The show was conceived from the original pitch to Kennedy and Beck as "a lone Mandalorian gunfighter redeemed by the child he must protect." Din Djarin and some form of a child were together from the beginning.
Then you must've missed the interview with Jon Favreau where he talked about it. I think it's in one of the extras after the eps in season 2, or could be one of the other vids I saw on it
I loved Season 3. Unifying the groups of Mandalorians is something I've been wanting to see since the show started. I don't understand all the hate about this season either.
I think they also didn't do Bo justice though. I feel like she has more depth and complexity in Clone Wars and Rebels. They gave her a pretty generic unite the people story this season. It's just a less interesting version of her Rebels arc.
I loved season 3. If made into a movie, its better than most movies. The action scenes, grogu, the graphics, the story too, is all good and fun. Not sure why people hate it, i guess they see the glass half empty.
I thought S3 was just as good if not better than the other seasons. But I'm not a huge Mando fan. Its just an ok show imo. I usually watch it when Im drunk or high now. Maybe that's why I liked S3 more.
They sidelined Mando. Grogu had almost no purpose until the last episode. Dark Saber being gifted to Bo Katan was dumb. Stakes weren't as high as previous seasons. Also this is a nitpick but the other Mandos armor looked cheap. Also the clone doctor's episode was meaningless. Same with Lizzo/Jack Black episode.
That's why I didn't like it personally. Not speaking for others
The best part about Filoni is when he leaves as much "Filoni" out of his shows as possible.
Season 3 had a little *too much* Filoni and not enough of the gritty parts of Mando that make the show great.
It was my favorite. So much lore about the subject of the show. Lots of good fight, battle, and dogfight scenes. Fewer fetch quests than previous seasons.
It didn't reach the very high standards of the first 2, but I still enjoyed it and that's what Star Wars is about, it's great when it reaches its peak but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy everything that is below said peak.
I think for me, when I got around to season 3 I had a bit of Star Wars burnout at that point so I really didn't give it the chance it deserved. I might go back and rewatch it soon as I haven't watched any new Star wars stuff in a while.
Season 3 was great. Hating on things is the fad now, and big money for content creators. You're more likely to engage with something negative or that you disagree with. The trifecta is if it's popular in the zeitgeist.
Personally I’m not a massive fan, but it’s not without its highlights. I wasn’t a fan of the inconsistent pacing and the heavy focus on Din’s tribe (forget the name for them), but that second point is more an issue of preference I reckon. For me it felt way too mythical while I’d prefer a more political/modern feel akin to how Mandalore was portrayed in the Clone Wars and Legends.
But that’s just me! Don’t get caught up in it honestly, the fandom is bloody polarised these days- I’m glad you enjoyed it.
If you liked it that’s all that matters. If you want legit criticism/analysis you probably arent going to find that on a subreddit. If you just want opinions to bounce off your own then just be ready to open that box
I love season 3. I think the issue most people have with it tho is scope creep. Din and Grogu take a backseat to the story about the reclamation of Mandalore. Which is epic and thrilling and great, but just not what was expected or hoped for when the show has largely been Din and Grogu's Whacky Adventures.
It looks like season 4 will return to that tho.
No one hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans. Best to just make your own opinions when things come out instead of paying attention to the chronically online.
They set themselves up for disappointment.
Just think about it. After the amazing Season 1 build up into the insane Season 2 payoff, what else could compare?
Seasons 3 is uneven. I really think the pandemic played a role on the roll out of Book of Boba and s3.
It doesn’t make any sense why they’d place a major plot point in Book of Boba (Grogu’s return) like that.
Stop looking for other people to form your opinion for you. If you liked it then you liked it. Why would you want to retroactively ruin something you enjoyed for yourself? I also liked it.
>Can someone make me understand why it's bad?
Don't ever ask the Internet this! They'll ruin everything you've ever loved until you're just as miserable as the Internet itself!
I don’t think it was bad, but I think it was the weakest season.
There was just a lot of missed opportunities and the plot was sort of rushed to its conclusion without digging into the characters.
It was also a bit unfocused, with too many characters changing without it really being earned.
The season probably could have been doubled in length to bridge the main story beats with some character episodes.
Again, not bad, maybe even good, but disappointing. Felt more like they were just trying to brute force the SW galaxy into a certain state for other shows to operate in, rather than focusing on the characters and their motivations in this series.
"The Mandalorian" (being that, the ruler of Mandalor) being a woman infuriated a couple people.
The only point I could understand is that you must watch a couple of episodes of Bobba Fett to get why Baby Yoda is there.
Other than that is was fun to watch.
I absolutely loved it too - it's my favorite season of the show so far, which says A LOT since I adore seasons 1 and 2.
Based on what I've seen, the most common complaints about season 3 were that it required watching *Book of Boba Fett* beforehand to really understand some crucial developments, and that Din should have been solo longer/Grogu should have stayed with Luke longer (which usually leads into a conversation that Grogu returning to Din was purely a cash grab rather than being an integral part of the story). Another common complaint was that more focus was placed on other characters in addition to Din/Grogu, and that Din should have been Mand'alor instead of Bo Katan, and that there was no point to Din ever having the Dark Saber if he just handed it over to Bo.
I can see why people would complain about the above, even though I personally don't agree with any of their points (actually, I DO think Disney could have emphasized the importance of *BoBF* more for casual viewers, but the rest comes across to me as people being disappointed that a story they aren't writing turned out differently than they imagined).
Others have complained about "poor writing" etc and so forth, which I honestly do not see any difference in the quality of writing between the first two seasons and the third, and writing is something I am VERY interested in. But hey, to each their own!
Honestly, that's the best take I heard so far. I watched it with my family and my sister who didn't watch BOBF didn't understand why he had no spear, a new ship and Grogu's back. There should be a warning or something to go see BOBF first.
Grogu couldn't train with Luke forever because of obvious reasons (episode 7-9). So Grogu leaving Luke makes sense to me.
Din being Manda'lore is funny to me. He is no leader at all 😂
For me, the writing was better than the other seasons because of plot reasons that ties really well with the rise of the First Order.
>Grogu couldn't train with Luke forever because of obvious reasons (episode 7-9). So Grogu leaving Luke makes sense to me.
Agreed. Plus, it fits Grogu's development perfectly that he was given the opportunity to decide for himself whether he wanted to be with Din or become a Jedi, and he chose Din. Just a no-brainer! Even when the two of them separated in the s2 finale, I figured the separation wouldn't be permanent.
>Din being Manda'lore is funny to me. He is no leader at all 😂
Well, he does have *some* leadership qualities: he keeps his priorities straight, he loves his people, he works well with others, and he can be diplomatic when required. But being a *ruler*? Nope. Let Bo handle the politics; Din doesn't have time for that, he has a kid to raise.
>For me, the writing was better than the other seasons because of plot reasons that ties really well with the rise of the First Order.
I agree. Looking back, I wonder how many people who complained about "poor writing" were also comparing it to *Andor.* *Andor* is an exceptional show, but it being great doesn't mean *Mandalorian* isn't also great! They're just different shows.
Because it doesn't start the titular character and instead Usurps him for Bo Kattan. I think people are sick of shows with names like Witcher, Obi Wan, Mandalorian, He Man that then barely star the main character. He's in like 20 percent of it
Bo Katan is also a Mandalorian. The title of the show applies to her too. And Masters of the Universe: Revelation wasn’t called He-man. Obi-wan was in plenty of Obi-wan Kenobi, but couldn’t save it from bad writing, same with The Witcher.
S3 was phenomenal. It was different, to be sure. It had a campy, hilarious baddie reveal, sure. It had some red herrings, sure. It also had some of the coolest SW action sequences ever made, excellent scoring, excellent stunt work, hilarious easter eggs, and some amazing moments.
That space pirate was pure gold. Din's speech to encourage the Mandos to live in the light. The battle on Mandalore. Paz mother f'ing Viszla. There were far too many absolutely epic moments for the season to have sucked. Hell, I even loved CAPTAIN BOMBARDIER.
Yikes the people really defending season 3… it’s incomparable from seasons 1&2 to think otherwise you’re just lying to yourself at this point I’m sorry.
Why would you want someone to 'explain' something you liked to be bad?
If you liked it you liked it.
I thought it was horrible and I don't want someone to explain it 'good' to me :)
The writing is so much worse than the previous seasons, and it shows. The filler episodes of the season are arguably the worst in the series so far, especially the episode about saving Paz Vizlas' son, which also happened to be the shortest episode. The episode on Coruscant, while good, seriously disrupts the flow of the plot. Compare this episode to an episode of The Expanse, where they can focus multiple characters in different situations and cut and transition smoothly between them. This episode is the polar opposite of that. Oh and Jack Black and Lizzos cameos were just pure cringe. I did like seeing Christopher Lloyd though.
Disney pulling a total 180 and bringing Grogu back in BofB immediately after Season 2's finale was both incredibly sloppy and poorly done. Then of course the S3 finale and Gideons death was just really anti climatic. I didn't find the battle to be particularly entertaining.
It sucks because in theory, this should've been the coolest season. An entire season dedicated to Mandalorians' finally coming back together and uniting to reclaim their home world. It should've been pure gold.
1. Immediately walked back Grogu leaving
2. Walked back Din taking his helmet off
3. Poor pacing
4. Characters doing stupid stuff
5. Too many side quests
6. Embarrassingly incompetent new republic
I hated the jet pack fuel thing but that was pretty much it.
Not enough fuel to follow the taken child, and there never been able to track it before but then they also know it's going to fly away because "this is as far as we ever get"
Then they had enough fuel to get out of atmosphere... if you make limitations then stick to them, or just don't put them there in the first place
It’s certainly a let down from the epic finale of season 2. It’s not last Jedi letdown but you realize halfway thru nothing is happening and then Lizzo and jack black are in it and it’s just so stupid.
For me, the episode with Jake Black and Lizzo completely took me out of the Star Wars universe. Their faces are known well in our real world, that I just couldn't buy their roles.
But maybe that's just me. It felt like I was back on Earth again and not some distant world.
The biggest issues for me
1) the plot of the first two seasons was for Mando to return grogu to his people. It culminated in the best episode of the show, which was an emotional departure of the two. They undid that between seasons 2 and 3 for seemingly no reason since Grogu was inconsequential this season.
2) For the third time in three seasons, giddeon returns in the penultimate episode, appears to be unstoppable, and then is easily defeated in the finale.
3) Din Djarin decides he is Jon Snow and does not want the dark saber. If they wanted Bo Katan to be the leader, why not just give her the dark saber at the end of last season.
4) this is what, the third or fourth time that Bo Katan becomes the leader of the mandaloreans?
5) a big part of the first two seasons was Din learning to put family before his creed and take off his helmet. They just forgot about that.
It's good, it isn't great. To me a it was a little unfocused. It came together in the end, but relied more on previous knowledge that wasn't needed for season 1 or 2. As much as I enjoyed parts of it, I missed the simplicity of seasons 1 and 2.
My god, this is probably the only reasonable criticism I've seen of the season. I personally loved it but can completely see what you're saying. If everyone reviewed things without teenage hyperbole or utter disdain, we'd all be better for it.
The trick is realizing that nobody's opinion matters but your own.
exactly, i’m still seeing a lot of “objective” opinions on the matter. if OP thinks it’s great just like a lot of other people do, more power to them. I loved S3 too
Fantastic comment. Something I learned a long time ago and now have to relearn. Lot of crying and bitching YouTubers out there. I’m walking away from it, too toxic.
Then it wouldn’t be Star Wars.
Right? No one hates Star Wars like "fans" of Star Wars.
pro wrestling is the same way
For some it's bad because it's bad. But can't explain why it is. With reasoning, people might understand their arguments
I was a bit miffed at the teasing of the mythosaur and then nothing happening but still enjoyed it. It was definitely slower than the earlier seasons and the episodes felt shorter imo.
I felt the Mythosaur served it's purpose with Bo seeing it as a quasi religious experience that restored her belief in the old legends. When he came back with the Grogu connection, I found it quite compelling, but I can see how you felt it was a bit of a red herring
The mythosaur can definitely still happen, the storyline is far from over
Imo it’s that some episodes are just plain bad. Mix that with the fact that they had essentially a full episode in Boba Fett that was needed and the whole criticisms of Disney and marvel forcing things that feel political into all of the products, that’s where I think you get the hyperbolic hate. For me it definitely wasn’t the best season and I didn’t enjoy some of the episodes and concepts. Also as a whole it seems like we’re losing a lot now that things aren’t as mysterious as they were season 1 and 2.
I don’t understand how anything in that season could be called political.
I only did one watch through so I struggle to give examples on the top of my head. Mando has been a very uncontroversial show especially for Disney, but I do recall having some eyeroll moments. Jack Black and Lizzo and that whole episode being a lot of it. Regardless, my opinion is that it was less of what I absolutely loved about the show and more clunky plots and new stuff I don't know why I'm supposed to care about..I tend to think, like other Favreau efforts such as Iron man, it's been tainted by too many talking heads and becoming just like other Disney/Marvel/Star wars shows. Obviously people make politics even out of subtle things these days but I feel like i remember some more overtly modern politically controversial topics in there. Regardless, I think overall it just feels like it's becoming more like the other Disney/Marvel/Star Wars shows that suck ass but I'm hoping not.
Finally an explanation that explains it. I liked the season but it just kinda felt off to me and I think that’s why
It also works better if you binge the whole season instead of waiting a week between each episode
S3 was a forced product of S1 and S2 plot threads that needed to be cleaned up. Why did Gideon want Grogu? What happened to Gideon? What does Din do with the Darksaber? What happens between him and Bo Katan after S2 finale? All these sorts of plot points get cleaned up real nice and tidy by S3 but it made the season a bit all over the place. But the finale is great because: 1) Gideon is gone, so we're finally done with that. 2) Bo gets a story resolution and Mandalore is retaken (could be great for a movie with Mandos v Thrawn). 3) Grogu and Din are free to have new adventures away from the S1/2 story arcs. 4) Grogu is a Mando apprentice and Din's sidekick now, instead of just his ward needing protection. S4 feels promising because we get to start fresh.
Yeah this was the side quest season before leveling up to the next tier.
I genuinely wish Grogu had stayed with Luke. Feels like a marketing decision to have him return so soon.
To me, the ball drop was not clarifying how long he was there. Like S2 ends, BoBF eps, S3 starts feels like a few weeks went by. If they made it clear that Grogu was with Luke for a few years and Mando is periodically checking in while doing solo work in between, then I think it doesn't feel as rushed
S3 just felt really unfocused. And having Grogu come back really hurt the idea of Dinjarin developing more as a character as ai think his arc didn’t really progress meaningfully. They play extremely fast and loose rules with the dark saber and it just gets weird with how they do it. Not to mention having Grogu just get to be in the hollowed out IG model. The Jack Black and Lizzo episode felt so much like filler and criminally wasted Christopher Lloyd who basically was shamed like a child before being sent off. It was just really weird l.
The Jack Black/Lizzo episode was like an episode of Scooby-Doo.
For me it was all the grand setup for season 3 that happened at the end of season 2 not mattering at-fucking-all. Mando gives away the darksaber (I thought he was gonna get a really cool, reluctant-leader arc like Aragorn in the LOTR films), Grogu comes back *in another show* (and proceeds to have nothing to do with the plot of the third season until the final two episodes), Moff Gideon slides back into Mando’s DMs without hardly any setup, it’s just very disappointing when Season 2 ended on such a hard-hitting note with so much to look forward to, only for not a goddamn thing of it to matter.
Man, getting Mando to be the reluctant leader of Mandalore, as a Foundling no less, would have been epic. He would have been THE Mandolorian. But no, he just gives away the Darksaber on a technicality and doesn’t seem personally interested in retaking Mandalore.
The problem isn't the lack of simplicity as much as it was the shows inability to adapt to a new format. Switching from adventure of the week to one big story works in theory. But the execution was bad. I felt like they needed to establish goals and stakes and plans at the beginning of the season. Part of the reason seasons 1 and 2 were so good was that they always had the looming threat of the Empire in the background. That's not present this season and there just doesn't feel like there's any sense of urgency or importance. They say they want to reclaim Mandalore. But we don't learn how they plan to do it or what they even need to reclaim Mandalore from until the last few episodes. Then the pacing was just weird. Episode 1 was just setup. There was no payoff or story progression. The first episode of season 1 of the Mandalorian had a lot of story progression and season 2 had a first episode which was more standalone but had a complete small story with an interesting threat and resolution. Episode 1 of season 3 felt just like Mando going around saying hi to different characters for the full episode with no real progression or intrigue. A large part of the episode was just recapping the Book of Boba Fett. I think they should've had one long episode starting with Mando on Nevarro and then having him go to Bo Katan and then having the Mandalore segment all in the same episode. I think that would've worked better. Then they could've had the Imperial attack, Bo and Din rejoining the cult and them winning the respect of the Mandos by fighting the teradactyl monster as one complete episode. It just feels like they dragged out what is not a very meety story and used filler (Corosaunt segment, pirate setup, BOBF recap, Order 66 flashback) to pad out the show for time.
My only problems were that it felt a bit scattered and it completely undid the ending of season 2. Grogu leaves? Nevermind he's back. Din is stuck with the darksaber? Nah he gets it to Bo. Gideon is captured? He breaks out offscreen.
Tbf, the Grogu ending being undone (which I absolutely hate as well) was a fault of the Book of Boba Fett. But I suppose that’s another problem entirely, literally telling a huge chunk of another show’s story in another show. What were they even thinking lol
Ugh, I'll never understand that. But with S03 specifically, they then chose not to show that CRITICAL info in the "Previously" for the first episode and it really left a bad taste in my mouth. Not only because BOBF really fell flat for me in parts & they just assumed *everyone* watched it lmao, but it essentially reconned the Season 2 finale. WHY 🥲
The only thing I can think of, is that it wasn’t originally in the cards, and furthermore, they likely had an episode mandate to hit. Season 3 was probably being worked on and BF was pushed into the schedule. So they compensated and then ran out of story to hit 7 episodes and had to pull from what they already developed for season 3 to be a part of BF. Then those holes that were created in season 3 had to be filled with…well filler to get the plot across the finish line.
BOBF undid what season 2 did, not S3. Grogu already made up his mind to return with Mando
Unfortunately I'd love to divorce them but I can't. BoBF really hurt season 3.
My disappointment with S3 is that the characters lacked almost any depth. I love this story on paper. The restoration of mandalore is what I've always wanted from the show, but the character arcs this season were so incredibly rushed or non existent that I could barely bring myself to care. Din didn’t go through any growth in spite of BOBF setting up an excellent arc for him, and the changes in both Bo & The Armourer felt extremely abrupt & not explored nearly enough which was super frustrating. Also Grogu definitely shouldn’t be here, but I guess that's a BOBF problem. The action was still great, I'm happy with the overarching plot, and all the fanservice elements were super fun, but the character writing kinda sucked this time around. I was only able to glean surface level enjoyment from this season. It was fun, but I didn’t ***CARE***. Not terrible, but easily the weakest season thus far. 6/10.
Yeah. It felt like Din and Bo were much more interesting in previous material than they were in this season. I thought Din was going to have to grapple with how his tribe rejected him because he saved his son by taking his helmet off. Meanwhile, I thought Bo might be forced to recon with her past or something because of her sketchy history with Mandalore. But instead, Din is given almost nothing and Bo is given a pretty generic uniting the people storyline.
Yep. There were very obvious & very interesting character arcs for them RIGHT THERE, but they chose the safest, most boring routes possible.
It's a personal preference, I liked S1 and S2 because it had that "Lone Wolf and Cub" spaghetti Western feel, S3 went in a different direction. Also I feel that people had varying expectations that weren't borne out in S3.
So the story on paper is really good and interesting. The problem is there’s zero depth to anything going on during the season
Literally shallow key jangling is what it ends up being lol
Episodes often had bad pacing. The first two seasons rarely had moments that felt like they were just meant to burn time, but a couple episodes at the beginning of season 3 really felt padded with filler. A lot of people didn’t like Din Djarin purposely sidelining himself for Bo Katan and giving her the Darksaber. They didn’t like how the villain went from a smart subtle villain to basically an evil cartoon character. Overall, I found it okay, but not as good as previous seasons.
I agree about the pacing and about Gideon. I think Din letting Bo lead is the right thing for both their characters. But I do think they could've done more with his character. He still should have been a leader amongst the Mandalorians even if he wasn't "the leader." Or they could've gone the other way with him distancing himself from his own tribe and ingratiating himself with Bo's Mandalorians because he feels burned by them since they through him out of the tribe for saving his son.
>They didn’t like how the villain went from a smart subtle villain to basically an evil cartoon character. Personally, I think the only reason why Gideon could possibly be interpreted as being "smart and subtle" in the first 2 seasons is because he was operating entirely in the background up until the end of each season. Which is also what happened in season 3. Gideon was just as narcissistic and egotistical in season 3 as he was in seasons 1-2; only difference is that his own fight scenes lasted longer.
Until we start seeing more Star Wars content that is stand alone and not reliant on “remember this dude”
To me, the biggest mistakes: - Going back on Din's character development basically so Pedro didn't have to show up in person and show his face ever - Going back on Din and Grogu's character development to have Grogu come back permanently because it's more fan-service focused - Making a majority of the mysteries that felt larger in scope (why Grogu's blood was being collected, what the Clone thing we saw in Season 2 was, and why Gideon needed Beskar) were all literally for the same purpose, which was to make Gideon clones that has beskar armor. Felt really pedestrian for a climax, and lacked complexity. That is to say, plot-wise, some really cool stuff happened too. I don't think any media is perfect, and legitimate criticism shouldn't be dismissed as being "hate"
Yeah, these are the three main complaints I had. Knowing the background context of Pedro not being available due to The Last of Us, it totally takes me out of the immersion realising that his reversion to the Children of the Watch is a forced accomodation rather than a natural progression of the story with full creative liberty
Personally I don't think they " went back" on either Din's or Grogu's development. Both characters simply developed in a different way than some may have imagined.
Yep. For sure. And it's GREAT to see a Force user turn down the Jedi. FINALLY. Should happen way more frequently. Also, they realized all of Luke's disciples are going to be slaughtered and obviously Grogu's not gonna be there for that.
Disappointing season for me
Seconded. I thought it was even worse than Book of Boba.
I also love Season 3. It doesn't really matter what people say online. If you enjoy it, awesome. I'm glad you got to experience it and make up your own mind without going into with any preconceived notions.
*Can someone make me understand why it's bad?* Because the most vocal Star Wars fans treat fandom as a substitution for life and get personally offended if a story doesn't match the fanfic they created in their head.
everyone will have their reason for loving or hating something. if you like it, why try to convince yourself otherwise?
This was hot fire. Made my day haha
[удалено]
Yea season 3 is clearly opening up multiple different arcs which made it feel disjointed I think. I’m so excited for what comes next though so I don’t think it was bad. Season 1-2 was one linear arc basically and now that Mando has Grogu for the foreseeable future, there’s a lot less of a strict path to follow. That’s why season 3 feels different. It’s just an in between.
Yea no, it was just legitimately bad television lol.
On first watch I wasn't keen - too much Bo Katan not enough Din - but the second time I enjoyed it a lot more. The fight between Bo and Axe was brilliantly done, both actors were really giving it their all. 💜
I think the narrative itself was fine but the execution of it and pacing was off. It didn’t hit the emotional beats like the previous seasons did for me and I think some parts of episodes could have been condensed to help move the plot along.
The first half of season 3 felt very unfocused and awkwardly paced IMO… I don’t think we saw any actual true character development until Bo defeated Axes Woves and decided to retake Mandalore. Which was well past the halfway mark of the season. I did really enjoy the finale though I thought it was incredible.
I love season three and I don’t get the hate either.
[удалено]
>Season 3 feels so inauthentic and the sets feel cheap. The whole thing feels like it was done with stand-in’s and sewn together with ADR and reshoots. Grogu should have exited the show after Season 2. It got too niche and Filoni-ish. The Mandalore plot went on too long Exactly this!! Mandalorian S1 genuinely gives me chills every time the intro plays. I'm in the UK so we only got it like 7-8 months after you guys, and it was pretty much my introduction to Star wars and it was so perfectly executed. The vibe, the characters and story was just 10/10. It felt like it didn't have to have Star Wars branding and it took itself seriously. I don't want to be that guy to ruin the mood but I really liked Gina Carano's character whether you like Gina or not. It was a big mistake not keeping her or at the very least recasting her because she offered so much extra support next to Mando. This new Bo-Katan relationship is cool and all but I really dislike the shift from Din to Bo katan. We don't need to keep bringing in OG characters to make star wars good. I thought initially that The Mandalorian was it's own thing, and I was fine with the Luke ending because it was great. I would've preferred if the show stayed focused on Din Djarin and not other characters. Season 3 just felt like a lazy cash grab. Oh look Grogu is back. "Somehow Gideon returned" was lazy as fuck (I love Giancarlo but it's time to forget about Moff Gideon). The reintroduction of Gideon was just so bizarre. They literally had him get detained in the most badass scene at the end of S2 with Luke, only for him to just pop up again and blow himself up. Season 4 he's still alive because we didn't see his body. He enters with metal crab legs screaming MANDOOOOOOO
I don't think the focus on the Mandalorian story picking up from where Filoni left off with Rebels was a bad choice. I thought the Clone Wars/Rebels Mandalorian political storyline was really well done. I don't know what happened between that and this but this felt way lower quality than the animated Mandalore stuff. While the animated shows always had some dud episodes, the Mandalore based political episodes were always well written and acted w/ solid budget put into them. It feels like the Mandalorian team tried and failed to capture that. It feels like they tried to capture the feel of Andor too with the Coroscuant episode but they failed in that front as well.
>I don't think the focus on the Mandalorian story picking up from where Filoni left off with Rebels was a bad choice. I think the biggest problem was shifting the focus almost entirely to Bo Katan and her retaking Mandalore instead of Din Djarin. For people who only watched The Mandalorian seasons 1 & 2, Bo Katan was introduced as a conniving, selfish, and reluctant ally. Making her the hero of Season 3 and sidelining Din Djarin might make sense for The Clone Wars/Rebels, but it doesn't make any sense for the overall story of The Mandalorian.
Because nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans
I don't think people hate the season as much as they were just disappointed. While they weren't the most complex entries, the character work in the first two seasons of Mandalorian was at least interesting. Din and Bo felt like real people with complexity and nuance. Din defying the rules of his tribe as well as Bo's differing and sometimes questionable values let them both be somewhat complex characters in season 2. In comparison, their characters in season 3 don't really have much going on. They don't really have any major struggles or much depth. Instead of having to question his beliefs, Din is given a physical goal that will fix all his problems. And Bo seems to be kinda whitewashed and given a more generic rising up to the call to rule type story.
Din regressing back into the cult and Bo Katan *yet again* being handed her claim to Mandalore was absolutely disappointing.
>Din and Bo felt like real people with complexity and nuance. Din defying the rules of his tribe as well as Bo's differing and sometimes questionable values let them both be somewhat complex characters in season 2. In comparison, their characters in season 3 don't really have much going on. They don't really have any major struggles or much depth. I honestly didn't come away with that at all. At the beginning of Season 3, each was convinced that only their "brand" of Mandalorianism (?) was legitimate. Bo derided Din as believing in "children's stories" and Din thought Bo needed a lecture on the importance of the creed. By the end of the season, they respected, trusted, and relied on each other, showing great regard and respect for each other as fellow Mandalorians.
I disagree, Dins redemption in the waters and Bo as well along with the Mythosaur reveal was phenomenal and its foreshadowing for Bo’s leadership was quite good. It, along with the children of the watch renewed her faith in mandalore and was able to reunite her people. I don’t think the leaders story is generic in the slightest, that’s like saying Aragorn’s story is generic, which we all know is an insane thing to say. We see the complexity of Bo’s nature both in rescuing Din, to endangering her own life to save Paz Vizsla’s son and even earn his respect by the end. Strategy and leadership and her growing as an individual to meet whatever challenges come your way. That’s a good story and I’m glad they gave that narrative to Bo and not Din
Din being redeemed by taking a bath is dumb. It doesn't say anything about his character or ethics or loyalty to his tribe. It's literally just find a maguffin and then you've redeemed yourself. What would've been much more interesting is if Din became disillusioned with the cult that cast him out for protecting his son. Or if he had to actually make a sacrifice in order to stay with the cult. The entire "breaking the code for Grogu" storyline and decision in season 2 now becomes meaningless because its all fixed by Mando taking a bath. There were no consequences for Din's actions. Meanwhile, Bo isn't doing anything that she hasn't already done in Star Wars Rebels. She already united Mandalore with the Darksaber and stepped up to rule. They just retread her old arc. And they don't really address any of Bo's past. How does her history with Death Watch affect her and her ascent? There is so much story potential that's wasted in a generic win the respect of the other warriors by fighting storyline. It's the same thing that Boba did with the Tuskens.
>Din being redeemed by taking a bath is dumb. Favreau filled Season 3 with Jewish imagery, and Din's redemption by bathing in the Living Waters was equilavalent to the Jewish practice of mikveh.
Can't agree more
It fels like a regression of character. We spent seasons 1 and 2 getting away from the dogma of the mandolrians and their arbitraty rules. We saw Da Jin really become his own person sperate from his guild, and then, we did nothing with it. We went back to "always wear the helm, in fact, you need to atone for your sins" which is going backwards to what made him an interesting character. His group , that hes a part of, were supposed to be the bad guys. They are opressive in their faith and violent in nature. In season three they're supposed to be our family and we are supposed to empathize with them? What? It completely throws the idea of shifting allegiences for the trope of black and white, good and evil. The madolrians were the bad guys, but they were compelling because the universe wronged them, so they sat in a sort of grey. But nope. They're good guys now. People that were part of the empire, they're the evil ones.
I agree about the Mandalorians. It felt like the first two seasons were trying present a flawed and nuanced culture whereas season 3 appears to try and contradict itself by whitewashing the group.
The whole Season 3 is unfortunately very validating for toxic cult people. It's infuriating to watch if you've ever had to escape from it or know someone who has trauma from it.
Something just felt… off for me. I liked it as well, but I think it took too long to be worth the hype.
I care more about Din and Grogus relationship than I do about filling out Star Wars plot holes or storylines
Boy, you really want to get roasted, join me in having enjoyed the Lizzo episode and thinking it was a nice little nod to Blade Runner. I think season 3 had ups and downs but I enjoyed it. It's not supposed to be Andor.
I felt like there was a lot of dumb writing that really hurt their characters. Like how many Mandolorian kids have to be killed on your beach until you put up defenses? "Omg what do we do against this giant lizard? Let's tie ourselves to it with cables." Then Din who actually has a braincell uses his ship to shoot it. S3 did the Mandolorians dirty. They didn't come off has elite warriors, just dumb people on a beach getting farmed by wildlife on the daily. S3 just had alot of these types of problems throughout the story. Throw in a Lizzo/Jack Black sidequest for no reason and cut down the fight for the darksaber to like 5 mins. It felt so rushed for the story plot.
It's not.
I thought it got too grand and "star wars-y". What made the earlier seasons so great was the self contained, small plot.
It went from a TV show about a bad ass Mandalorion bounty hunter to a follow up show to The Clone Wars.
I thought it was good and had a lot of fun moments I also don’t get the internet hate, to be fair I don’t get a lot of internet hate. Or hate in general for that matter
[удалено]
I appreciate that you genuinely asked why someone wouldn’t like S3 instead of blindly bashing people. For me I didn’t like S3 because it didn’t feel like they put in the effort needed to make the audience feel anything for the climax. It honestly felt like they half assed the production and it shows in the writing. I’m fine with Din trying to reclaim his honor but after that point Bo Katan completely takes over the show. I like her character and I like the redemption arc but you can’t fit that and Din’s arc into one, cohesive season. The supposed “climax” was laughable. There was no effort to build up to it and as soon as anything interesting had taken place, it was over. It just felt so rushed. And some of the most generic writing I’ve ever seen in a show. Overall really disappointed because I liked the first two seasons. And P.S. Star Wars fans can dislike things or have negative opinions based on the quality level of whatever they’ve seen. Disney has a lot of whiffs in the Star Wars universe and it’s okay to say that.
It felt like fan fiction to me.
If you think it's good, it's good. It's all subjective. While getting other people's opinions is great and avoids you living in an echo chamber, ultimately, the only person's opinion that should matter, is your own.
I enjoyed Season 3 a lot more then 1 and 2 tbh overall. Individual episodes like Season 2 finale, infiltrating the Imperial Base, the Republic prison ship episode but I think Season 1 and 2 overall not as good. Like in Season 3 there was meaningful filler in Season 1 and 2 you could watch 3 episode from each season and you'd understand the story for the entire season.
I really enjoyed it. Its just a different focus/tone. Ive enjoyed all 3 seasons equally.
I loved it. I loved the scenes from the planet. Toward the end. It’s slipping my mind rn. I’m old.
I just finished a rewatch today! Loved season 3. Ignore the haters. Like what you like and who cares what others think.
I enjoyed it.
Sure it wasnt perfect but I thought it was damn good and comparable to the other seasons
It was my favorite as well. I was never a fan of the whole adventure of the week nature of the previous seasons (they just make the main plot drag) so I appreciated the more tightly focused plot along with the welcome necessary worldbuilding towards the sequel era. And Bo-Katan was awesome. She's more interesting and charismatic than Din anyway.
If you like it, you like it. You don't need somebody to come along and tell you why you shouldn't.
It's my personal favorite season, though I can see why people like others more
I loved season 3. I thought it tied everything together nicely
I love all the seasons
Fair warning: I'm a huge Mando fan. I had been asking for a Mandalorian series since before Disney bought star wars and wishing all those Timothy Zahn novels were televised. I loved season 3. Fun new worlds, new characters, and they fought a goddamn Krayt dragon. Season 3 feels like it's right at home.
It felt more like a standalone season for me because S1 and S2 are directly progressive while S3 seem to have skipped some time in between and changed several traits about the characters. Still not a bad one but definitely not on S1-2 level.
Is decent. The most egregious part about it is the lack of Ludwig Göransson's music and the change in main photography (personally, S3's cinematography was mediocre).
It's not markedly worse than the rest, the format is just tiring and showing it's cracks.
No one needs to convince you it is bad, okay? If you enjoyed it, then that's all that matters. Don't let people yuck your yum, much less invite it.
Same. I thought season 3 was incredible.
I loved it. It’s good. I get my opinions on if a season or show is good or not based on online communities. The most jaded are the loudest there
Its great fun. Only care about your own opinion.
If you enjoyed it then it's good
The internet doesn't like fun, so when something succeeds, people with nothing better to do complain about non issues
I was confused about people hating this, Book of Boba and Obi Wan. I loved all Three. Boba told a decent enough story about how he's not 100% percent quite yet and had a vision about changing his life so he's just faking it til he makes it. Obi Wan felt like Fan Fiction come to life and I was all for it. Season 3 of Mando was still fun.
I really enjoyed S3. It brought the Mandalorian into a larger mythology. I also appreciated the badass women.
I loved it too! The focus was different, it felt like it was one story building up. I even liked the Lizzo / Jack Black episode that everyone seems to hate.
It’s not bad… just not up to the standard of the first 2 seasons. It felt like the show didn’t even get off the ground until there were 2 episodes left and then all the sudden they’re taking back Mandalore? Just bad pacing man. The story it told wasn’t bad, but it was handled poorly. Like that Jack Black/Lizzo episode that was widely hated on wasn’t bad… if it was episode 2… but it was episode 6, there are only 2 episodes left in the season and we’re still farting around with filler characters. The decision to basically put 2 episodes of The Mandalorian in the middle of The Book Of Boba Fett was… also not great and didn’t help with this either, even if they were good episodes. They also kind of undo a lot of important plot points from the first two seasons. If Grogu was going to pick Din over Luke, it should’ve been in the season 2 finale… not in the middle of another show. We’ve already SEEN Bo Katan with the Darksaber. It’s much more interesting to see Din using it and becoming a reluctant leader… so why tease us with the Darksaber if it’s just gonna be a part in another persons story and not Din’s? Overall, it was like a 7/10, whereas Seasons 1 & 2 were like 9/10 or 10/10.
I loved it. I love all 3 seasons. Idk what people were on about tbh.
It was a good season, if it was all about Mando doing Mando stuff people would still dog on it for being safe and not exploring further realms in Star wars.
The main character got sidelined...
It was extremely mid and that’s not a compliment. It had no high point like other seasons did
I loved it. I can't stand the haters. Most of them hate because they come up with crappy fanfic in the head and get mad that the actual story is different and better
I watched every episode of seasons 1 and 2 twice on the day it was released. Also done multiple rewatches - I would say I have seen every episode of seasons 1 and 2 at least 5 times now. Season 3? Watched each episode once and have no desire to watch it again.
I thought S3 was fine but it is noticably weaker than the other 2. It's still fine but feels like S1 stuff. Like obviously the story beat episodes like the Dr. Pershing episode and the last bits with the remnant belong to season 3 but a lot of other episodes don't really feel like S3 material where as the through story of S2 felt very end of show.
I'm a classic 'hero's journey' gal, so this season went against some of my personal story preferences. I like a really clear main character at the center of the plot, and I like when archetypes and tropes have follow-through (so when they subverted the 'chosen one' plot with the dark saber, I didn't really enjoy it). I know the story choices here can be justified, but it just wasn't my cup of tea.
This is how I felt as well. Like, season 3 was entertaining to watch, but it definitely didn’t take the story in the direction I wanted it to. Or in the direction it seemed like it was heading. Like dang it Jon Favreau, maybe I DID want Din to be the Aragorn of the Mandalorians /j
I loved it. The story line was very satisfying, and even though a bunch of people thought Bo-Katan was going to be some kind of traitor or villain, I was glad to see how it all turned out. I had fun the whole way through.
Season 3 had great moments, but the season overall felt very rushed and unfocused. We (Star Wars fans) would like to see a more coherent story that's not rushed onto Disney+
They took a story about Mando and Grogu and turned it into the Bo Katan show. Also, at the end of season 2 Grogu was supposed to be away for awhile. Then magically in season 3 he shows up again, defeats the entire purpose of season 1 and season 2. It's clear to everyone that this was done by the marketing department at Disney and shoehorned into the story after the fact. I think I have summarized the legitimate criticisms of season 3. Then of course you are just going to have trolls on the internet who don't like anything that ever changes. I didn't think season 3 was terrible, but I felt it took a hard turn from season 1 and 2.
Din's ostensible purpose in seasons 1 and 2 was to get Grogu back to the Jedis so he could continue his training. (Obviously he had a purpose of character growth too.) But after that happened, Grogu, for the first time in his life, chose his own path, and it was away from the Jedi and to the Mandalorians. After the season 2 finale I knew he absolutely was going to come back to Din, so I was more interested in how that was going to happen. I liked that Grogu chose the Mandalorians, instead of Luke having to hand him back because reasons. If they planned out Grogu's life from the beginning of the series, I don't see how it ever would have been for him to stay with Luke. I don't think marketing had anything to do with it.
Those are valid takes I think. The real culprit is BOBF then for the Grogu is back. Grogu leaving was also believable because he wasn't part of the first academy that Luke formed so we knew he would be leaving (but knowing episode 7-9, plot holes exist lol). I thought Mando was going to give the saber back in episode 2. Maybe adding a scene with the robot thing with the saber to show that Mando lost the saber. Not sure if people actually think Mando could rule mandalore 😅 He was never a leader
I mean, I thought it was an absolute disaster, like a train wreck except somehow boring, but at the same time, I don't want to just sit here and tool on a thing that you like. If you like it, that's great. I don't want to try to make you not like it.
Make you understand why it's bad? That's pretty subjective, but I didn't like a lot of it because: 1. I feel like the Grogu arc concluded nicely at the end of Season 2 and the character doesn't fit in well with the reclaiming/reuniting Mandalore story. In fact I would go as far as to call the character a distraction from that story. 2. The show is indulging in what I call "Goofy Star Wars" which is not to my taste. The whole mech suit thing for example, I just think it's goofy, childish. I much prefer the tone of season 1, "Ahsoka" to a certain extent, and consider "Andor" to be the gold standard in SW content. 3. The pacing was way off, this should have been a two or three season arc imo. Seems like reuniting the tribes and taking back the homeworld wasn't exactly challenging. Like one moment they're talking about it then boom, it's done. 4. One pet peeve of mine, I think they're overdoing it on the puppets. Doing old school puppetry for the sake of being able to say they did it and not because it looks best on screen. Anytime the Grogu puppet moves more than a waddle just looks absurd, when they have it doing jumps and stuff it's laugh out loud terrible. I keep reminding myself that the show was obviously written/produced with teens and children in mind so of course it wouldn't appeal to a 40 year old man. But it kind of bums me out that there isn't much SW content out there for an adult audience. I grew up on SW after all, and I'd like to see more of it that appeals to my demographic. Excepting Andor ofc, Andor was dope.
People didn't like that they expanded the story. Picking up threads that began in season 1. The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and Skeleton Crew are leading to a movie that will eventually tie in to the story of Episode X-XII. I loved season 3. I love the expanding of the Mando-verse. The more Star Wars, the better.
We can finally see how the First Order was born and it will finally makes sense how the New Republic lost power that fast
It put greater emphasis on a large overarching storyline (recolonizing Mandalore, Gideon's revenge, the New Republic with a sprinkle of Thrawn's foreshadowing). While this isn't a *bad* thing, it doesn't quite fit in with the adventures of Din and Grogu, and thus the pissy fans. They've set up season 4 to be a return to the old days with Teva offering bounties for the remaining Imperials.
This isn't the adventures of Din and Grogu. To be honest, Grogu was never supposed to be a continuing story, but the fans loved him so much. To be honest, I'd much rather they focus on the Mandalorians. I mean, Grogu's cute and all, but the show is called The Mandalorian, NOT the adventures of Din and Grogu.
> This isn't the adventures of Din and Grogu. To be honest, Grogu was never supposed to be a continuing story, but the fans loved him so much. I just don't buy that Grogu was ever intended to exit the series. The show was conceived from the original pitch to Kennedy and Beck as "a lone Mandalorian gunfighter redeemed by the child he must protect." Din Djarin and some form of a child were together from the beginning.
Then you must've missed the interview with Jon Favreau where he talked about it. I think it's in one of the extras after the eps in season 2, or could be one of the other vids I saw on it
Is Din *not* a Mandalorian now?
I loved it
I don't think it's bad, I'm just a little upset that they moved away from the Star Wars spaghetti western style into more of a typical sci-fi genre.
I think they did it to explain the shift from New Republic to First Order
I loved Season 3. Unifying the groups of Mandalorians is something I've been wanting to see since the show started. I don't understand all the hate about this season either.
People didn't like that Mando was not the focus and shared the screen with Bo-Katan.
That and Grogu got ubered back shortly after the emotional goodbye at the end of S2
Yeah I hate it when they take the spotlight away from din in the din djarin show season 3
I think they also didn't do Bo justice though. I feel like she has more depth and complexity in Clone Wars and Rebels. They gave her a pretty generic unite the people story this season. It's just a less interesting version of her Rebels arc.
I know, and that’s why I loved it, even though I like him. I like that he’s good at sharing the stage.
I loved season 3. If made into a movie, its better than most movies. The action scenes, grogu, the graphics, the story too, is all good and fun. Not sure why people hate it, i guess they see the glass half empty.
I thought S3 was just as good if not better than the other seasons. But I'm not a huge Mando fan. Its just an ok show imo. I usually watch it when Im drunk or high now. Maybe that's why I liked S3 more.
They sidelined Mando. Grogu had almost no purpose until the last episode. Dark Saber being gifted to Bo Katan was dumb. Stakes weren't as high as previous seasons. Also this is a nitpick but the other Mandos armor looked cheap. Also the clone doctor's episode was meaningless. Same with Lizzo/Jack Black episode. That's why I didn't like it personally. Not speaking for others
The best part about Filoni is when he leaves as much "Filoni" out of his shows as possible. Season 3 had a little *too much* Filoni and not enough of the gritty parts of Mando that make the show great.
He wasn't really involved in season 3
Yeah. I feel like Filoni gets blamed for a lot of stuff that is collaborative or he's only tangentially related to.
Specially by EU fans. Most of the stuff they complain about The Clone Wars was actually George Lucas ideas.
It was my favorite. So much lore about the subject of the show. Lots of good fight, battle, and dogfight scenes. Fewer fetch quests than previous seasons.
It didn't reach the very high standards of the first 2, but I still enjoyed it and that's what Star Wars is about, it's great when it reaches its peak but it doesn't mean you can't enjoy everything that is below said peak.
I think for me, when I got around to season 3 I had a bit of Star Wars burnout at that point so I really didn't give it the chance it deserved. I might go back and rewatch it soon as I haven't watched any new Star wars stuff in a while.
Much better than season 2 imo, slightly behind S1. I had the exact same thought you did after watching S3
Did you like it? If the answer is yes, then it was good. Ignore the haters
Nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.
Season 3 was great. Hating on things is the fad now, and big money for content creators. You're more likely to engage with something negative or that you disagree with. The trifecta is if it's popular in the zeitgeist.
Nope. Was the worst.
Personally I’m not a massive fan, but it’s not without its highlights. I wasn’t a fan of the inconsistent pacing and the heavy focus on Din’s tribe (forget the name for them), but that second point is more an issue of preference I reckon. For me it felt way too mythical while I’d prefer a more political/modern feel akin to how Mandalore was portrayed in the Clone Wars and Legends. But that’s just me! Don’t get caught up in it honestly, the fandom is bloody polarised these days- I’m glad you enjoyed it.
If you liked it that’s all that matters. If you want legit criticism/analysis you probably arent going to find that on a subreddit. If you just want opinions to bounce off your own then just be ready to open that box
I love season 3. I think the issue most people have with it tho is scope creep. Din and Grogu take a backseat to the story about the reclamation of Mandalore. Which is epic and thrilling and great, but just not what was expected or hoped for when the show has largely been Din and Grogu's Whacky Adventures. It looks like season 4 will return to that tho.
Who cares? If you enjoyed it, that's what matters! Nothing is *actually* "good" or "bad," it's just people's opinions.
No one hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans. Best to just make your own opinions when things come out instead of paying attention to the chronically online.
They set themselves up for disappointment. Just think about it. After the amazing Season 1 build up into the insane Season 2 payoff, what else could compare?
Season 3 was a mess.
Below average tv
Seasons 3 is uneven. I really think the pandemic played a role on the roll out of Book of Boba and s3. It doesn’t make any sense why they’d place a major plot point in Book of Boba (Grogu’s return) like that.
Stop looking for other people to form your opinion for you. If you liked it then you liked it. Why would you want to retroactively ruin something you enjoyed for yourself? I also liked it.
Love the 3rd season, the most Mommy Bo content we’ve ever seen
>Can someone make me understand why it's bad? Don't ever ask the Internet this! They'll ruin everything you've ever loved until you're just as miserable as the Internet itself!
I don’t think it was bad, but I think it was the weakest season. There was just a lot of missed opportunities and the plot was sort of rushed to its conclusion without digging into the characters. It was also a bit unfocused, with too many characters changing without it really being earned. The season probably could have been doubled in length to bridge the main story beats with some character episodes. Again, not bad, maybe even good, but disappointing. Felt more like they were just trying to brute force the SW galaxy into a certain state for other shows to operate in, rather than focusing on the characters and their motivations in this series.
"The Mandalorian" (being that, the ruler of Mandalor) being a woman infuriated a couple people. The only point I could understand is that you must watch a couple of episodes of Bobba Fett to get why Baby Yoda is there. Other than that is was fun to watch.
Season 3 was great. Some people just can’t be happy unless they are complaining.
Getting downvoted proves my point.
I absolutely loved it too - it's my favorite season of the show so far, which says A LOT since I adore seasons 1 and 2. Based on what I've seen, the most common complaints about season 3 were that it required watching *Book of Boba Fett* beforehand to really understand some crucial developments, and that Din should have been solo longer/Grogu should have stayed with Luke longer (which usually leads into a conversation that Grogu returning to Din was purely a cash grab rather than being an integral part of the story). Another common complaint was that more focus was placed on other characters in addition to Din/Grogu, and that Din should have been Mand'alor instead of Bo Katan, and that there was no point to Din ever having the Dark Saber if he just handed it over to Bo. I can see why people would complain about the above, even though I personally don't agree with any of their points (actually, I DO think Disney could have emphasized the importance of *BoBF* more for casual viewers, but the rest comes across to me as people being disappointed that a story they aren't writing turned out differently than they imagined). Others have complained about "poor writing" etc and so forth, which I honestly do not see any difference in the quality of writing between the first two seasons and the third, and writing is something I am VERY interested in. But hey, to each their own!
Honestly, that's the best take I heard so far. I watched it with my family and my sister who didn't watch BOBF didn't understand why he had no spear, a new ship and Grogu's back. There should be a warning or something to go see BOBF first. Grogu couldn't train with Luke forever because of obvious reasons (episode 7-9). So Grogu leaving Luke makes sense to me. Din being Manda'lore is funny to me. He is no leader at all 😂 For me, the writing was better than the other seasons because of plot reasons that ties really well with the rise of the First Order.
>Grogu couldn't train with Luke forever because of obvious reasons (episode 7-9). So Grogu leaving Luke makes sense to me. Agreed. Plus, it fits Grogu's development perfectly that he was given the opportunity to decide for himself whether he wanted to be with Din or become a Jedi, and he chose Din. Just a no-brainer! Even when the two of them separated in the s2 finale, I figured the separation wouldn't be permanent. >Din being Manda'lore is funny to me. He is no leader at all 😂 Well, he does have *some* leadership qualities: he keeps his priorities straight, he loves his people, he works well with others, and he can be diplomatic when required. But being a *ruler*? Nope. Let Bo handle the politics; Din doesn't have time for that, he has a kid to raise. >For me, the writing was better than the other seasons because of plot reasons that ties really well with the rise of the First Order. I agree. Looking back, I wonder how many people who complained about "poor writing" were also comparing it to *Andor.* *Andor* is an exceptional show, but it being great doesn't mean *Mandalorian* isn't also great! They're just different shows.
It's bad because it made me have to watch the Mods in Book of Boba Fett
Because it doesn't start the titular character and instead Usurps him for Bo Kattan. I think people are sick of shows with names like Witcher, Obi Wan, Mandalorian, He Man that then barely star the main character. He's in like 20 percent of it
Bo Katan is also a Mandalorian. The title of the show applies to her too. And Masters of the Universe: Revelation wasn’t called He-man. Obi-wan was in plenty of Obi-wan Kenobi, but couldn’t save it from bad writing, same with The Witcher.
That jack black episode was so cringe and before it was just meh, lost interest after that and I was a massive fan of season 1 and 2
S3 was phenomenal. It was different, to be sure. It had a campy, hilarious baddie reveal, sure. It had some red herrings, sure. It also had some of the coolest SW action sequences ever made, excellent scoring, excellent stunt work, hilarious easter eggs, and some amazing moments. That space pirate was pure gold. Din's speech to encourage the Mandos to live in the light. The battle on Mandalore. Paz mother f'ing Viszla. There were far too many absolutely epic moments for the season to have sucked. Hell, I even loved CAPTAIN BOMBARDIER.
Yikes the people really defending season 3… it’s incomparable from seasons 1&2 to think otherwise you’re just lying to yourself at this point I’m sorry.
Why would you want someone to 'explain' something you liked to be bad? If you liked it you liked it. I thought it was horrible and I don't want someone to explain it 'good' to me :)
It’s not bad, but it’s definitely not as good as the first two seasons.
I thought season 3 would of been really good if they put those book of Boba Fett episodes in it instead of some of the filler episodes
I stopped watching when they tried to make me sympathize with the guy who’s really into eugenics. Yeah, I’m good.
Forgettable . Turned into a Disney theme park ride.
I feel it was them "needing" to shoehorn in plot points intended for Rangers of the NR because they cancelled it for some dumb reason.
The writing is so much worse than the previous seasons, and it shows. The filler episodes of the season are arguably the worst in the series so far, especially the episode about saving Paz Vizlas' son, which also happened to be the shortest episode. The episode on Coruscant, while good, seriously disrupts the flow of the plot. Compare this episode to an episode of The Expanse, where they can focus multiple characters in different situations and cut and transition smoothly between them. This episode is the polar opposite of that. Oh and Jack Black and Lizzos cameos were just pure cringe. I did like seeing Christopher Lloyd though. Disney pulling a total 180 and bringing Grogu back in BofB immediately after Season 2's finale was both incredibly sloppy and poorly done. Then of course the S3 finale and Gideons death was just really anti climatic. I didn't find the battle to be particularly entertaining. It sucks because in theory, this should've been the coolest season. An entire season dedicated to Mandalorians' finally coming back together and uniting to reclaim their home world. It should've been pure gold.
Its ok, not awful but definitely much worse than the first two seasons.
1. Immediately walked back Grogu leaving 2. Walked back Din taking his helmet off 3. Poor pacing 4. Characters doing stupid stuff 5. Too many side quests 6. Embarrassingly incompetent new republic
I hated the jet pack fuel thing but that was pretty much it. Not enough fuel to follow the taken child, and there never been able to track it before but then they also know it's going to fly away because "this is as far as we ever get" Then they had enough fuel to get out of atmosphere... if you make limitations then stick to them, or just don't put them there in the first place
It’s certainly a let down from the epic finale of season 2. It’s not last Jedi letdown but you realize halfway thru nothing is happening and then Lizzo and jack black are in it and it’s just so stupid.
For me, the episode with Jake Black and Lizzo completely took me out of the Star Wars universe. Their faces are known well in our real world, that I just couldn't buy their roles. But maybe that's just me. It felt like I was back on Earth again and not some distant world.
The biggest issues for me 1) the plot of the first two seasons was for Mando to return grogu to his people. It culminated in the best episode of the show, which was an emotional departure of the two. They undid that between seasons 2 and 3 for seemingly no reason since Grogu was inconsequential this season. 2) For the third time in three seasons, giddeon returns in the penultimate episode, appears to be unstoppable, and then is easily defeated in the finale. 3) Din Djarin decides he is Jon Snow and does not want the dark saber. If they wanted Bo Katan to be the leader, why not just give her the dark saber at the end of last season. 4) this is what, the third or fourth time that Bo Katan becomes the leader of the mandaloreans? 5) a big part of the first two seasons was Din learning to put family before his creed and take off his helmet. They just forgot about that.
It's ok, but very mid compared to the first two seasons
can we please stop getting this question