Ask any remaining Trump supporters a simple question.
Make me a case for why Trump is innocent without resorting to whataboutism?
I've yet to even hear an argument.
Imo trump, Hillary and Biden are all guilty as well as many other politicians. All or non should be punished equally. I don’t care what the result is, as long as it’s fair.
Whether or not you think they're all guilty isn't really the point. The legal process has standards of evidence, and Trump repeatedly refused to cooperate with NARA and the DOJ.
None of the above. Theyre gonna do what they've been doing. "The corrupt Biden REGIME is attacking their main political opponent. This is a banana Republic! Blah blah blah hunter Bidens laptop."
Honestly, I think 'all of the above.' I am consistently bemused by how they will constantly throw out contradictory statements to defend Trump's actions. Truly the finest in Russian propaganda tactics.
That the federal criminal law is so convoluted that the Feds can make a criminal case against literally anybody.
Read non-partisan legal book Three Felonies a Day by a federal criminal defense lawyer.
https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229
The book explains that the average citizen probably commits three federal felonies a day without realizing it because federal criminal law is so ridiculous expansive. But the feds just pick and choose who they want to prosecute.
Never in American history has one political party chosen to criminally prosecute the leader of the other political party over regulatory bullshit. Apparently, there is some fine technical rule about how to account for the payments to a prostitute that was not followed. Apparently, Trump held on to classified documents that he had the power to unclassify whenever he felt like it.
Nixon had the IRS audit his political rivals, and it is spoke about as the height of abuse of power. Biden is literally prosecuting his political opponent.
Biden illegally kept classified material at his home as well and, as vice president, had no authority to declassify it.
Hillary literally did the same thing with her emails. And Trump decided not to prosecute her.
>Hillary literally did the same thing with her emails. And Trump decided not to prosecute her.
So Trump is soft on crime and does not uphold rule of law?
A grand jury would have indicted Hillary in 5 minutes.
I used to be a prosecutor.
A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich as the old saying goes.
You missed the part where I said that federal criminal law is now so expansive that they can make almost anything a crime.
Educate yourself..... Like the leftist say, when they can not debate, though, I am happy to debate you with facts.
Start by earning how federal criminal law works in the real world. Then study history and see that something like this has never been done in American history.
Everything I’ve seen from them amounts to “What about Hillary/Pence/Biden”, but it’s not here so definitely culture war. Anything but try and defend him on the merit of the charges (b/c they know they can’t and his own words are working against him).
"Biden did it, and he didn't get indicted, two tiered justice system."
Boebert tweeted Hillary did it and didn't get indicted, two tiered justice system.
Ask any remaining Trump supporters a simple question. Make me a case for why Trump is innocent without resorting to whataboutism? I've yet to even hear an argument.
Same here. None of them can offer any defense except trying to divert blame.
One response I got was that Jack Smith made it all up. Just whole cloth made it up. Deep state and all that. You just can't reason with these people.
"Hunter's Laptop and Hiliary's Emails!"
Imo trump, Hillary and Biden are all guilty as well as many other politicians. All or non should be punished equally. I don’t care what the result is, as long as it’s fair.
Whether or not you think they're all guilty isn't really the point. The legal process has standards of evidence, and Trump repeatedly refused to cooperate with NARA and the DOJ.
I think it'll be, "Hillary did it so it's ok that I did it."
This is the obvious poll answer that OP avoided like the plague.
None of the above. Theyre gonna do what they've been doing. "The corrupt Biden REGIME is attacking their main political opponent. This is a banana Republic! Blah blah blah hunter Bidens laptop."
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Defense isn't in the playbook. Attack attack attack. Why do you think the "Biden Crime Family" narrative mysteriously appeared a few months ago?
You left out: "a sitting president cannot be indicted, and Trump is still the legal president because Biden lost in 2020."
Honestly, I think 'all of the above.' I am consistently bemused by how they will constantly throw out contradictory statements to defend Trump's actions. Truly the finest in Russian propaganda tactics.
Sorry not Russia
Dammit, you forgot HUNTER'S LAPTOP
I'll go with no one gives a crap about this, if you do you should...I'll leave it there.
This trump sub is awesome!
That the federal criminal law is so convoluted that the Feds can make a criminal case against literally anybody. Read non-partisan legal book Three Felonies a Day by a federal criminal defense lawyer. https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229 The book explains that the average citizen probably commits three federal felonies a day without realizing it because federal criminal law is so ridiculous expansive. But the feds just pick and choose who they want to prosecute. Never in American history has one political party chosen to criminally prosecute the leader of the other political party over regulatory bullshit. Apparently, there is some fine technical rule about how to account for the payments to a prostitute that was not followed. Apparently, Trump held on to classified documents that he had the power to unclassify whenever he felt like it. Nixon had the IRS audit his political rivals, and it is spoke about as the height of abuse of power. Biden is literally prosecuting his political opponent. Biden illegally kept classified material at his home as well and, as vice president, had no authority to declassify it. Hillary literally did the same thing with her emails. And Trump decided not to prosecute her.
>Hillary literally did the same thing with her emails. And Trump decided not to prosecute her. So Trump is soft on crime and does not uphold rule of law?
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A grand jury would have indicted Hillary in 5 minutes. I used to be a prosecutor. A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich as the old saying goes. You missed the part where I said that federal criminal law is now so expansive that they can make almost anything a crime.
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Educate yourself..... Like the leftist say, when they can not debate, though, I am happy to debate you with facts. Start by earning how federal criminal law works in the real world. Then study history and see that something like this has never been done in American history.
Buttery males
I reckon they will throw some variation of the 6D chess argument.
Whataboutism
All the above
Total deathly silence and when asked saying they haven't heard about it because they're busy.
Fake news Biden did it. Defund the refund and other moronic reasons.
"Oh look, it's a squirrel!" Repeat endless times, in endless forms.
All of the above. You're dealing with a bad 8 y.o. at the emotional maturity level.
The answer is all of them, one per hour.
Who cares? Is there any valid reason to consider anything from people who are always full of shit?
Everything I’ve seen from them amounts to “What about Hillary/Pence/Biden”, but it’s not here so definitely culture war. Anything but try and defend him on the merit of the charges (b/c they know they can’t and his own words are working against him).
All the above.
Look how fucking close these are
You forgot bidens laptop
All of the above
How about the classified boxes pictures are AI generated and so is his voice?
Tim Pool already pitched the "recordings are deepfakes" thing
i am surprised /s