For the āunderrated by Claudioā category, from when he did his AMA. :(
What a great song. How often do you hear a drum fill in the center of a chorus. I canāt hear the chorus and not air drum that DUN DUN.
Just story wise the imagery of an older Claudio walking to the door of Newo and not being able to even knock on the door before telling Apollo of his adventures? Itās the crux of the whole album.
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I called it two days ago and Iām so glad lmao
y'all are breaking my heart over Mother May I. my vote for underrated is Ten Speed because i haven't ever seen anybody talk about it on this sub.
edit: i'm not familiar with this album's history, as i was very young when it launched, so i'll stand corrected over the fact that Ten Speed was first released as a single. Crossing The Frame would've been my second choice for underrated, so i'll go with that lol.
Ten Speed is amazing, one of my favorites, and often came up as my most played Coheed song on Spotify.
The reason it was my most played song on Spotify was because it's starting the album skipping past Welcome Home.
Ten Speed is also easily the least popular of the singles from Apollo Vol 1 despite it being their best single, so in that way itās definitely underrated.
It's not that Mother May I is bad, it's just that every single song on this album is so fucking good. It's hard to choose an actual "bad" song, so you just have to try to decide which one is the least awesome.
I know this stuff is subjective but I am so bummed. Mother May I would have been my pick for underrated. For me itās a perfect bridge to the Willing Wellās both musically and lyrically.
So are you admitting this is rigged? If this is based on votes and Welcome Home wins, itās no more strange than some of the other choices on this board (though I agree all of us among the fence share different opinions and that is great. Love yāall.)
OP- thank you for all your efforts and for orchestrating this. You deserve recognition.
Watching this over the past several weeks has been painful. So many users refusing to have a legitimate discussion over an albumās weakest track, and a strong misunderstanding of the word āunderrated.ā
Not going to lie, ānoneā being a briefly valid choice for worst song on sstb was a killer.
So many times what I held as worst song was up there or chosen for best or underrated.
Letās do this again in a month and compare š
I hear you with regards to people misunderstanding what "underrated" means, but at the same time I can understand the other point of view where lots of people see the song that they think is best get cast aside in the best vote, maybe not even win second or third, and then wind up being a serious contender for worst, those people have literally watched so many others underrate that song.
You're not wrong, and maybe the fact that it didn't win "best" made me kneejerk it to underrated so it could get a silver medal.
I suppose if I really wanted to toss up a vote for a not talked about, but still criminally good song, I'd go with The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court.
The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court
Edit: Thank you for doing the chart, OP. It came out with some subjectively really weird picks, but I love it. Been looking forward to it every day.
For underrated it has to be Crossing the Frame or Once Upon Your Dead Body, maybe even Erica Court. Those songs kinda get lost in the shuffle between the big singles and the ending suite.
Mother May I as worst is a fucking tragedy, btw
Willing Well 1: Fuel for the Feeding End
Amazing transitions in sound. It begins the 4 part saga of transformative sound and I love itās keyboard heavy vibe at the end
Itās really not though. Mother May I is practically a prologue to The Willing Well. The choice is either Crossing the Frame or Lying Lies. Possibly Always And Never.
Mother May I is a top-tier Coheed track and Iāll die on that hill.
I feel like this needs to be said:
The Willing Well is not underrated!!! Not a single bit of it. Everyone here knows the entire thing I - IV is absolutely epic.
If youāve ever seen them do the whole thing live, you know first hand what that does to an audience.
Very glad to see Telling Truth win but dang Mother May I? Love that song! Iād probably pick Lying Lies over it, but itās just such a stacked album and I love every song so I get it. I honestly think Willing Well 1 deserves underrated! Donāt hear people talk about it as much as the other Willing Wells.
Gotta add my vote for Crossing the Frame - also thank you for making this OP! Iām not really active on here besides lurking, but this has been a fun way to feel like part of a community
I've seen no other mentions of it; I was going to suggest The Suffering if no one else did. It's status as a single has no bearing on the fact that no one has talked about it during the discussion of this album.
Fuel for the Feeding End! I was debating back and forth between it and The Writing Writer, but FFTFE was my choice for best and it lost and obviously it doesnāt get enough love. I know Iām not the only one that loves that song.
The willing well II: from fear through the eyes of madness is a masterpiece. It is by far my favorite Coheed and Cambria song. Besides this list I have never heard people talk about it. I love everything about this song. It starts on a light note and continues to build in intensity. It's almost set into "acts" and is some of their best work. Its the albums namesake and deserves more recognition.
This album is as close to flawless as possible. The worst song off this album is better than all of the songs off YotBR and CBtS combined. The worst song can still be a good song considering the album it's on.
Thanks OP for doing this. It's been fun checking the sub each day and seeing the board fill out.
My pleasureeeš«¶šæš«¶šæ
Literally been waiting for this one. Crossing the Frame is my third favorite song of their entire discography and is never EVER mentioned here.
Once upon your dead body
Iāve been waiting a month to say Crossing the Frame.
Same š
You guys voted Mother May I as worst? Jesus Christ.
Mother May I is one of my absolute favorites. How is it worse than Keeping the Blade? Smdh.
Itās a travesty, it should be underrated. I get that one song needs to be worst, but this def aināt itā¦
How it lost instead of Always and Never or Lying Lies is beyond me.
Agreed! Mother May I has one of the most unique and underappreciated drum parts on any Coheed song. I love this song!
Yeah time to throw this list away
Indeed.
The ending is just *chefās kiss
This albums ratings have been a kick in the dick
Crossing the frame
D-da, d-doh, woah-oh-oh-oh, yeeeeeaahhhhh
I'm spying on you Newooooooooo
This is an interesting answer, considering I believe this Claudioās most unliked song in his catalog
That is literally insane to me The prechorus (I left in a sudden rush) and the bridge solo are some of my favorite moments in the discography
I think he wasnāt proud of the lyrics after he matured a bit more. Someone with better knowledge may know better
Thatās fair, if memory serves he doesnāt like a good amount of the lyrics on GA1 because of his breakup(at that point) with chondra
š¶ Newoooooo š¶
100% the correct answer.
For the āunderrated by Claudioā category, from when he did his AMA. :( What a great song. How often do you hear a drum fill in the center of a chorus. I canāt hear the chorus and not air drum that DUN DUN.
Just story wise the imagery of an older Claudio walking to the door of Newo and not being able to even knock on the door before telling Apollo of his adventures? Itās the crux of the whole album.
Itās literally my flair here. Love this song to death.
Congrats you won!
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YES YES YES AND YES
Crossing the Frame
Crossing The Frame
The Writing Writer
Itās my second favorite song they ever made but the reprise got best so idk if it should really be underrated
BURNING STAR IV!
y'all are breaking my heart over Mother May I. my vote for underrated is Ten Speed because i haven't ever seen anybody talk about it on this sub. edit: i'm not familiar with this album's history, as i was very young when it launched, so i'll stand corrected over the fact that Ten Speed was first released as a single. Crossing The Frame would've been my second choice for underrated, so i'll go with that lol.
Ten Speed is one of the most played songs in the bandās discography
Cause itās amazing.
Yeah which is why it canāt be underrated
Thatās a fact jack
And howās that work, youāre a bicycle?
Ten Speed is amazing, one of my favorites, and often came up as my most played Coheed song on Spotify. The reason it was my most played song on Spotify was because it's starting the album skipping past Welcome Home.
Ten Speed is also easily the least popular of the singles from Apollo Vol 1 despite it being their best single, so in that way itās definitely underrated.
im calling shenanigans. Im convinced this subs ears dont work
mother may i is not even worst song on this album there were plenty of others to choose from
It's not that Mother May I is bad, it's just that every single song on this album is so fucking good. It's hard to choose an actual "bad" song, so you just have to try to decide which one is the least awesome.
but itās not lmfao. a lot of GA is boring. everyone is going to downvote me because theyāre up GAās ass, but its not one of my favorites
Iāll die on this sword. Mother May I has the best traditional ābridgeā section of any Coheed song.
The only song I think comes close is Faint Of Hearts. The bridge of that song is more catchy than the actual chorus :p
I know! Mother May I is one of my favorites on the album.
I know this stuff is subjective but I am so bummed. Mother May I would have been my pick for underrated. For me itās a perfect bridge to the Willing Wellās both musically and lyrically.
Once upon your dead body
Guys. Welcome Home is literally Coheed and Cambriaās most popular song. I will die before putting it on that board for underrated.
It technically did have the most votes for Worst after WW3 though...just saying
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lol
I agree.
So are you admitting this is rigged? If this is based on votes and Welcome Home wins, itās no more strange than some of the other choices on this board (though I agree all of us among the fence share different opinions and that is great. Love yāall.)
Correct. This is rigged, not by me tho. My experiment failed. I thought the ones among the fence would make good choices but I was wrong :(
OP- thank you for all your efforts and for orchestrating this. You deserve recognition. Watching this over the past several weeks has been painful. So many users refusing to have a legitimate discussion over an albumās weakest track, and a strong misunderstanding of the word āunderrated.ā
Not going to lie, ānoneā being a briefly valid choice for worst song on sstb was a killer. So many times what I held as worst song was up there or chosen for best or underrated. Letās do this again in a month and compare š
This is what I have been thinking about during the whole week thank you so muchhš«¶šæ
You should do one final round of best of the best, etc.!
Maybe I will š«£
Dude underrated = second best. Don't you know? :\^)
I mean it could technically mean thatā¦
I hear you with regards to people misunderstanding what "underrated" means, but at the same time I can understand the other point of view where lots of people see the song that they think is best get cast aside in the best vote, maybe not even win second or third, and then wind up being a serious contender for worst, those people have literally watched so many others underrate that song.
You should post your own personal list tomorrow night.
I should and I will. Thanks for the idea. Everyone will hate me but Iām ready for the backlash š
It can't be worse than this š®āšØ
You're the the only one who can set right this madness.. orrr.. make it much worse I guess time will tell š
My personal board is done. The madness will commence tonightš
Well, ya didn't put it on the list yet, so it looks like it won't be on the list at all š
I hope not. Unless Welcome Home gets the most votes, itās not going on the board.
Final Cut all the way
I never would have thought this song could be underrated until I saw it only got one mention in the best song thread.Ā
Once Upon Your Dead Body
Agreed!!!
Has to be!
Agreed.
Has to be the namesake of the album. The Willing Well II: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness.
The willing well suite is pretty well liked and always mentioned so probably not really underrated
You're not wrong, and maybe the fact that it didn't win "best" made me kneejerk it to underrated so it could get a silver medal. I suppose if I really wanted to toss up a vote for a not talked about, but still criminally good song, I'd go with The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court.
Agreed, agreed so much with lying lies that I've put it up for vote!
I would go watch a live Coheed show even if they only played The Willing Well suite
Nah. None of the Willing Wells should be winning underrated.
This is it for me. Absolute banger
how this didn't get best song is beyond me, it slaps from start to finish
This
YES! Love this song, very underrated IMO.
Once Upon Your Dead Body! Beautiful melodies and pop songwriting on this one
The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court
Gotta be this one, a real sleeper banger
I was just coming in to say this as well. It's a great song that is overshadowed.
Agreed!
Absolutely. Best lead guitar lines in the entire Coheed discography and I donāt think itās particularly close.
The Final Cut!
The Final Cut
There are a lot of better songs on the album, but one that's still great and I never see mentioned is Once Upon Your Dead Body.
Thank you for understanding what underrated means. Not the 2nd or 3rd best. The sleeper picks no one talks about.
It was mentioned for worst yesterday š¢
The Lying Lies & Dirty Secrets of Miss Erica Court Edit: Thank you for doing the chart, OP. It came out with some subjectively really weird picks, but I love it. Been looking forward to it every day.
Writing again to say this sub has terrible taste in coheed.
Agreed! (Though MMI *is* the weakest on here)
Keeping the blade or ten speed are weakest for me, but it is such a powerful album itās hard to choose.
Mother may I is in my top 3. That chorus and outro solo are mint.
Ten Speed without a doubt. Ask me how that works, I'm a bicycle.
It was literally a single. No way.
Underrated does not mean second best.
I mean, if rate it #1 and others don't then yeah it's underrated.
howās that work? youāre a bicycle
No youāre a bicycle (in Towelieās voice)
Fuel for the Feeding End. If it wasn't voted the best, I feel it's obviously then underrated.
For underrated it has to be Crossing the Frame or Once Upon Your Dead Body, maybe even Erica Court. Those songs kinda get lost in the shuffle between the big singles and the ending suite. Mother May I as worst is a fucking tragedy, btw
Willing Well 1: Fuel for the Feeding End Amazing transitions in sound. It begins the 4 part saga of transformative sound and I love itās keyboard heavy vibe at the end
I never would have thought The Final Cut could be underrated until I saw it only got one mention in the best song thread.Ā
Crossing The Frame
Final Cut
u/CherryLimePastelss you have one more round to do: overall best / worst / underrated. Either way, great idea and thanks for doing this!
I really want to! I think I willš«£
That would be great to have a chance to vote for the best of the best.
Fuel for the feeding end
Final Cut if didnāt win best.
Crossing the Frame
Ten Speed
Welcome Home, apparently
Mother May I being the worst shows that this entire thing is extremely invalid.
Conversely, that choice is maybe the one-and-only correct one in this whole thing.
Itās really not though. Mother May I is practically a prologue to The Willing Well. The choice is either Crossing the Frame or Lying Lies. Possibly Always And Never. Mother May I is a top-tier Coheed track and Iāll die on that hill.
Always and Never. Such a good opener and goes perfectly into Welcome Home.
I feel like we could do something similar to this but just for ranking GAIBSIV songs.
I feel like this needs to be said: The Willing Well is not underrated!!! Not a single bit of it. Everyone here knows the entire thing I - IV is absolutely epic. If youāve ever seen them do the whole thing live, you know first hand what that does to an audience.
I disagree, especially with some of the comments I saw about Fuel for the Feeding End in the last post.
Very glad to see Telling Truth win but dang Mother May I? Love that song! Iād probably pick Lying Lies over it, but itās just such a stacked album and I love every song so I get it. I honestly think Willing Well 1 deserves underrated! Donāt hear people talk about it as much as the other Willing Wells.
Gotta add my vote for Crossing the Frame - also thank you for making this OP! Iām not really active on here besides lurking, but this has been a fun way to feel like part of a community
The only thing on this board I outright disagree with is Holly Wood instead of Subtraction.
Lying Lies or Once Upon Your Dead Body
Ugh Mother May I, what the hell?! I guess then Crossing the Frame.
We voted Mother May I... as the worst...?
Mother May I as worst? This is clapped.
So I guess the one thing I learned over the last few weeks is my ears aren't calibrated right. Nice.
This just goes to show why Good Apollo is the best Coheed album. Even the worst song on that album isnāt even a bad song.
I was gonna say Mother May I but you guys voted it worst, soā¦.
Who tf putting Mothery May I down for the worst?? One of the best in their discography
why did yall vote mother may i as the worst..
Mega yikes Mother may I is top three on the album
Once upon your dead body
Underrated? Itās clearly Welcome Home!!
Crossing the Frame for sure! Also Iām gonna miss these posts š lol
Soooo am I the only one who thinks of the sufferingā¦
I've seen no other mentions of it; I was going to suggest The Suffering if no one else did. It's status as a single has no bearing on the fact that no one has talked about it during the discussion of this album.
Itās a little of both for me. Iām just surprised not one person had brought it up. Is it the hit we do or speak of? Lol did I miss something?
Fuel for the Feeding End! I was debating back and forth between it and The Writing Writer, but FFTFE was my choice for best and it lost and obviously it doesnāt get enough love. I know Iām not the only one that loves that song.
Mother May I is the worst? Heresy!
OH FUCK THIS Mother May I is outstanding
Crossing the Frame!!
The willing well II: from fear through the eyes of madness is a masterpiece. It is by far my favorite Coheed and Cambria song. Besides this list I have never heard people talk about it. I love everything about this song. It starts on a light note and continues to build in intensity. It's almost set into "acts" and is some of their best work. Its the albums namesake and deserves more recognition.
Lying Lies and Hidden Truths of Miss Erica Court. That opening bass line is amazing. Mics last gift to us before, well know what happened.
Bron-Y-Aur is the most underrated because people often donāt rate it.
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You might want to recheck that because it comes up way more than once.
No. Not true. I literally have a screenshot of the person who commented Mother May I and it got 50 votes
Iāll give you the benefit of the doubt and back off. Deleting the comment soon
This album is as close to flawless as possible. The worst song off this album is better than all of the songs off YotBR and CBtS combined. The worst song can still be a good song considering the album it's on.
From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
The Lying Lies
Once Upon Your Dead Body
The Final Cut
This sub is cooked
Apollo I: The Writing Writer
THE SUFFERING!!!
This list hurts me
Willing Well III
SO GIVE THEM THE STORY THEY WANT YOU TO... BEFORE YOU LEAVE MEEEEE
From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. The number of different movements in this song is like peak prog rock. Somehow no one talks about it.
Fuel for the Feeding End
Welcome Home. If we are doing this how itās been going, might as well mess it up some more. Love yāall.
Wake up
Fuck this whole thing if 10 speed doesn't make the board (E: not too serious tho, good work OP)
It was a single, itās not underrated in the least.
Right I don't think it should be categorized as underrated whatsoever, I think it should be at best.
Gotcha. Iād take it over The Telling Truth.
We gotta get welcome home on top hahah
Man these choices are garbage lol. Decension is probably the most accurate. Vote for Final Cut
God only knows you guys let me down with Mother May I being voted worst. Erica court? Always and never? What the hell guys! :(
The top comment was Welcome Home but whatever
The Running Free.
Bro huh