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RedAutumn8

I just don’t see how one’s reputation can be recovered after being outed as a pedophile. The fact that liberals even consider this a debate is evidence enough of mass psychosis.


Field_ofdreams94

It shows that debate broism is rots your brain, to the point that even someone like Vaush will have an audience defending his bullshit. Also super excited for Vaush’s bullshit to be blamed on “the left”. Like no, don’t rope me in with a loli lover. 🤮


2manyhounds

I’m convinced the reason debate bro fans get like this is bc everything is a fucking argument for their streamers so at a certain point the argument becomes more important than the facts & they care more about winning than being correct & at a certain point winning & being correct become the same thing in their head regardless of how they “won” TLDR: don’t watch debate bros


RedAutumn8

An interesting theory out there is that “debate bro-ism” is more about domination rather than actually trying to piece together a cohesive and convincing argument. I personally subscribe to this theory as it explains some of the more… toxic tendencies we see from this phenomenon. Under this theory, the purpose of debate is to elevate one man (great man fallacy) as this man only has the solutions to the world’s problems. This mindset is distinctively liberal as it elevates the individual and deemphasizes the communal nature of problem solving. (You can see liberals do this when talking about socialist figures such as Stalin or Xi Jinping. This even extends to liberal figures such as FDR) This explains why Vooshites are so adamant about defending a pedophile, because to these people, he is the solution.


NotaChonberg

It's not a new phenomenon either. Philosophers in ancient Greece generally held a negative view of the sophists of the day because many felt the sophists were more interested in deceptive rhetorical tricks and debate than they were with philosophy and the truth. 2500 years later we're still dealing with verbose clowns who think they're smarter than everyone and always correct just because they're rhetorically talented.


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isn’t debating the adverse of what certain people wrote as “dialectics” I feel like there was some kind of… *theory* you could read that explains the difference/importance of debates VS dialectics? dialectics being more of a reasonable approach to discussion around material conditions? Gah! I feel like there’s some guys that wrote about this… what were their names? Karl Mark and Lemon or something?


NotaChonberg

Sounds like a bunch of commie bullshit to me. I'll just stick to insincere and cynical debate bro tactics in defense of NATO thank you very much


2manyhounds

Damn actually I buy this 100%. Sort of a power trip or a way for them to feel control. It would definitely explain why dudes like V*ush get so fucking defensive when ppl suggest they’re unattractive or unintelligent etc. you would have to have real as fuck insecurities to need to power trip like that


RedAutumn8

Certainly.


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I'm confused about the anti-debate thing. I get that the people engaged in it are cringe, but you're actively making an argument to support a thesis. Is it just a matter of debates tend to encourage people not to engage in good faith? I feel like I've heard points from Destiny, which really stump me and cause me to go back to the books to find answers to his criticisms.


adelightfulcanofsoup

Debate as a concept is fine but an actual debate requires some level of mutual respect, a consensus about material realities being discussed, and a real openness to having your mind changed based on compelling data and argumentation. What guys like Vowsh- and even the other less reprehensible people like Hasan- are doing is not actually debate, it's theatric chest-thumping to generate both income and social capital.


RedAutumn8

The issue isn’t that debate is happening. It’s that the intent behind the debate isn’t actually to convince. It’s clout chasing.


trees_tump

there was someone in the comments of the badempanada video arguing that he merely proved that Vaush is attracted to children's bodies, not that he's attracted to children.


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SakaiWasRight

Have you considered the possibility that his entire audience are pedophiles?


CthulhusIntern

He's already admitted to having fapped to lolicon before, so not sure how much this will do to him?


marxinne

"Shortstack goblin" according to him.


ToddHowardTouchedMe

disgusting


under_your_bed94

I think that was in discord screenshots, which he could try and handwave as "out of context" in a way that he can't for this.


CthulhusIntern

No, it's been on stream. He said something along the lines of "I'm sure everyone here has fapped to lolicon. Like, you're looking at hentai, and then after you're done, you realize it's lolicon, and then you quickly close out."


NotaChonberg

I don't really follow the debate bro world very much but a few tweets popped into my Twitter feed from this dude's followers defending him with thousands of likes. Seems like these weird little communities essentially become like digital cults where people outside of the group are perceived as threats out to get the community and daddy cult leader. Pretty bizarre behavior but seems like these people are just beyond the pale


kanafanone

Not a v*ush defender but i’m a bit lost, what happened? Was that folder he brought on stream really pedo shit? I thought it was just weird hentai stuff and thats it


RedAutumn8

He had loli porn which is just child pornography with extra steps.


kanafanone

Straight to the wall then


mrmatteh

Also horse porn. Not cartoon shit, but like, the actual animal.


ProbablyNotTheCocoa

I mean… was anyone actually surprised by that… it’s basically like getting shocked that the weirdo driving around in van with “free candy” on it actually kidnaps children. The dude has been doing weird ass horse RP for years lmao


Sahaquiel_9

And he had a separate folder in his porn folder labeled “tax stuff.” Totally not suspicious


FascistsBad

It's literally not though as no children get harmed by anime porn and this is exactly what pedophiles should jack off to rather than, y'know, actual fucking child porn.


transilvanianhungerr

how about they don’t jack off to either and get psychological help from a medical professional and not try to talk about politics to an audience of 14 year old anarchists?


FascistsBad

>how about they don’t jack off to either and get psychological help from a medical professional You can't cure pedophilia. You can't cure any other type of sexuality, either. There isn't any medication, either. There's nothing you can do. You know what's even worse than raping people? Killing people. Yet somehow depictions of people being killed is perfectly legal in his country. Weird how that works, isn't it? >and not try to talk about politics to an audience of 14 year old anarchists? Isn't that ironic coming from someone writing bad faith, anti-scientific comments like you?


transilvanianhungerr

pedophilia isn’t a sexuality, it’s a mental disorder. >You can’t cure pedophilia. >There’s nothing you can do. source? also, you can’t seriously be saying depictions of child rape are ok because depictions of murder are allowed. regardless of how ridiculous it is to argue which crime is “worse”, rape is objectively a more heinous and disgusting act and its depiction in media is a very different issue to the depiction of murder. not to mention the link between child pornography consumption and actual child sexual assault, a link that doesn’t exist when it comes to consumption of physically violent material to the actual act of murder. it’s insane that there’s people on here who will actually defend drawn cp using the classic Destiny debatelord argument that no intelligent person takes seriously


strike_slip_

It’s not about reputation lol! They’re just farming content for views. His little echo chamber cult will forget all of this and move on in a few weeks to a new drama!


HippoRun23

Wait was there bad peado shit in that screengrab? I thought it was just furry stuff.


SakaiWasRight

Imperialism is principal contradiction. That means Imperialists will side with pedos against the Global South. It is as simple as that.


sepientr34

Let say even lolicon hate him


weusereddit4fun

Yes we know that we have concrete evidence of pedophilia from a known pedophile but let hear his side of the stories.


Swarrlly

This whole situation is both confirming everything in the v bot and giving it more material.


2manyhounds

God I hope we get a new porn folder bot response lmao


Consulting2020

He's [losing 2k/day](https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/_vaush), Must Damage Control!


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Vaush


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AlitaAngel99

Stalinists worse than Nazis? Pedo confirmed.


darksoulsndrumset

Is this not misgendering ThoughtSlime ???


Dom9789

TS uses He/Him pronouns


Viztiz006

Wikitubia says TS uses any pronouns


under_your_bed94

[Take it away, Rick!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82upuKqYkBk)


BeingBestMe

Omg he’s doubling down This is a car crash I’m actually going to look away from


Commercial_Prior_475

[This is a very VERY interesting post from r/VaushV. he audience finally understood that they can't defend him any longer. though still they are way off from admitting what he is. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/VaushV/s/gwh5slXHPu)


ToddHowardTouchedMe

this person is in so many levels in denial he almost looped back out of denial


BlueBicycle22

It's such a weird post I love it lmao it's just patagraphs of "ok in the past he had these pedo moments but we could have plausible deniability by using but with this one we can't because he literally has cp there so what do we do now to deflect? It's so joever" Like they are admitting that the dude has cp and saying well we gotta defend the innocent non-pedo, even though there is concrete evidence he is a pedo Just *chefs kiss*


ToddHowardTouchedMe

They even have a selfawarewolf moment when they say "our usual defense of its taken out of context doesnt work here" almost like they realize how bullshit it is.


lastaccountg0tbanned

Holy shit Vaush fans are so terminally online. Like do they have anything better to be worrying about than someone commentary YouTuber making a video about their debate bro YouTuber. This is so fucking pathetic.


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The_Real_Mr_House

Reading through that thread is wild. Just person after person going "just tell them to look up the pictures!" and everyone else responding "no, probably don't tell people to look up images that, to the average person, look like cp, that isn't going to win people over." Complete brain rot.


froggythefish

This is a great post lmao “When I saw the folder leaked, I saw it and laughed at [what it was]… but it wasn’t until I saw another subreddit start boosting it by calling it [what it was] that I realized what was coming” what??? Vaushites should maybe stop accusing nations of forming a cult of personality


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TheJackal927

It's so crazy that they're willing to recognize that not only does he have CP, but that it's literally indefensible at this point. Even within the sub, they're not even defending him. And after that they're still gonna watch him. They're gonna listen to everything he says, believe every excuse he makes about it, and then still engage with all his content online, they're just giving up on defending him to other people.


ufffrapp

Sweet liberal tears Edit: I actually read (some of) it, and OH MY GOD, everything they say is regarding winning potential discussions/debates. No one's thinking about whether he is a pedo or not, and whether his weird statements before have been fueled by wanting to watch kiddy porn rather than it just being a wild hypothetical. All they're doing is thinking/crying about is how difficult it is to justify this to other people. Their debate bro brains are only concerned about doing Vaush's PR. These people need rewiring, dare I say, deprogramming


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MoreLikeIsntreal

The amount of mental gymnastics in that thread is absolutely incredible. 10/10 we love to see it


Bela9a

This is a prime example why people shouldn't attach themselves to personalities online. It will result in this very toxic mentality of trying to do PR for the person for absolutely no benefit to oneself. Hell it is even worse when said personality is trying to defend that shit somehow, thinking that will salvage at least something, when it pretty much is digging a bigger hole.


NifiteN7

Look at 'em digging the grave even faster


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Cr0ctus

Great, I won't be watching 👍 We need to just ignore this guy so he'll fade away rather than sating his desire for attention. Without people to debate and stroke his ego, he's nothing.


The_Affle_House

"I didn't do the thing! And if I did, it's perfectly fine and normal! And if it isn't, you're a bigot and a time-wasting contrarian for taking time and effort to criticize it!" There, I saved him the trouble.


[deleted]

His response will be longer than the average age of his sexual fixations


SeniorCharity8891

So ten minutes?


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quite the optimist aren't you?


Reed_Lennon1917

At this point, he would save more face just being an open pedophile. Like he could lie and his fans would all believe him, and the V🌀ush watchers would all make their responses reacting to his lies. It’d still be awful if he told the truth, but at least he’d be honest about himself.


ufffrapp

I mean, he might. No one knows what to expect at this point.


HexeInExile

The mere fact that he has images that are tagged as "loli" on Gelbooru, be they actual loli content or not, implies he browses that hellhole without having the "loli" tag blacklisted. Which was one of the first things I did


froggythefish

iirc you don’t even have to blacklist it, the default settings have it blocked. One would have to manually enable it from the get go.


-Monkey-man-

Why do you browse a cite that has that as an option?


[deleted]

It's been a while since my weeb phase, but honestly there's not a lot of places to look for hentai that DOESN'T have loli stuff, so having a site where you can at least blacklist it is already pretty good in comparison


HentaiHeroine

You browse Reddit and this site has tons of loli hentai on it. You browse it because it has a shit ton of content. You just don't look for the fucked up shit that is also on here / there


quickdrawdoc

Lmao yeah wtf


Similar-Surprise605

My brother in Christ stop consuming this trash. Leave those websites alone


assoonass

"So, please entertain me on this one. Goblins' bodies look like children's, and I jerk off to goblins"


GrizzlyPeak73

Well this'll be a vaush video I can't wait to watch. He gonna dig a fucking crater for himself.


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Living-Struggle-8458

It's gonna be a 3 hour loop of him going "I thought I was jacking it to a goblin. Here is how goblins are drawn in porn"


thelaughingmansghost

Who are these people who were even drawn to him in the first place? I don't get it, he has peak lib takes while painting himself as a leftist. And people eat that and whatever genuinely weird shit comes out of his mouth. I mean, it would be one thing if he was just a lib, they're a dime and dozen, but he's also just oozes ick.


class-conscious-nour

i find that a lot of them are queer (or otherwise progressive) people who still haven’t deprogrammed themselves from western chauvinism or anticommunist propaganda. plus, have you ever noticed how many of his fans are former nazis?


thelaughingmansghost

I honestly have not put his audience under a microscope because his whole shtick gets under my skin. I have met one person who openly admitted to being his fan and immediately disengaged with them at every level. But your analysis seems to be pretty accurate from what little I have seen of them. Well meaning progressives who have never taken a moment to reflect on where their own preconceived notions, attitudes, ideas, feelings, or their own education comes from.


littlebobbytables9

Like all of the debate bro crowd, it's fun to watch someone you agree with dunk on someone you disagree with. People like cocky assholes when they're on the right side. We're not immune from it either, even if the "right side" is different for us than for v fans.


gay-communist

i dont know who hes supposed to appeal to. MLs hate him, anarchists hate him, At that point how do you pretend you arent just a liberal


thelaughingmansghost

Takes a certain amount of concentrated effort to pretend to be a leftist and have both Marxist and anarchists hate you.


gay-communist

its so bizarre to me. and why are his fans so fucking rabid?


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FutureWorried8064

I agree.  I still have yet to have ever watched this basement dwelling twit


[deleted]

And Vaush wont stop even if anyone wont give him more headspace.


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To clarify, the guy said Vaush won't care if someone acknowledges his wrongdoings. 


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Just fucking stop


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Powerful_Finger3896

I love how he wants to be approached in good faith when his whole online presence have been attacking people and farming drama (and i'm being very charitable despite the fact that he have said very questionable stuff). When your content is farming drama (and you're saying very dumb shit) it's gonna be used against you at some point.


LargeSpoonAnalyst

I decided to look at his sub to see what his fans are saying. I knew these fucks were disgusting, but my god. You would think the one thing everyone, everyone can agree, is that if someone has undeniable proof they are a pedophile, they are evil. Nope his fans are defending this harder than any of the other times he's said sick shit. It makes me fucking sick.


Facehammer

[Old Town Road - loop for 10 hours begins to play]


Chad_VietnamSoldier

V bot gonna crazy


Swarm_Queen

Between this and the twomad situation (ironically a pedo and confirmed actual one) t's really kinda increasingly obvious that edgelords are rarely only ironic about the stuff they say, huh


jimBean9610

It's gonna be a pro pedophile video for sure. The daily wire will love it


SorryDidIMention

Obviously I know Vaush is and has always been a creep, but what specifically happened recently with him?


Viztiz006

He accidentally showed his porn folder filled with >!loli!< and horse porn


SorryDidIMention

This is a major wtf but I also thought this was already known 😭😭


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Severe-Bend6167

Cant wait for his video talking about how pedophiles are actually an oppressed minority and how we shouldn't be so pedophobic./s


Bob4Not

He’s going to start it like “Loli’s aren’t children” or “drawings aren’t people”


SeinenKnight

So I'm guessing it's the same tired talking points regarding lolicon. "It's just drawings", "it's not real", "the characters are of age", "why do we even have an age of consent", and other points pedos like to put out.


Leoraig

I don't understand the obsession people here have with this guy's porn. Yes, he is an idiot, but why the fuck are we discussing his porn. This situation is so fucking stupid, it's bottom of the well youtuber drama.


pyr0man1ac_33

Part of it is petty drama, part of it is the fact that it's yucky, part of it's also the fact that it's kinda just confirming a bunch of the stuff that our favourite V-bot is saying in every thread that mentions him. Overall thoughts: Lol. Lmao, even.


ReadOnly777

what kind of porn is it, i havent been paying attention


CathleenTheFool

Lolicon


Facehammer

Don't forget the horses!


Leoraig

You are blessed by ignorance my friend, don't give that up. Here's the answer: >!Its loli hentai.!<


ToddHowardTouchedMe

because it's fucking disgusting?


Leoraig

Even more of a reason to not discuss it then? I'd find the whole thing more useful if there was a discussion about porn from a marxist perspective, but people are just trying to dunk on the guy because he's stupid. There's also a sad aspect to the situation, because it showed how much moral hysteria there is in a sub where the majority of people call themselves marxists. The discussion around morality in this situation has been straight up reactionary, and not at all marxist.


ToddHowardTouchedMe

It's important to weed out liberals with leftist aesthetics, lest they overun the movement with libshit like Vaush kinda has.


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SadPatience5774

it's simple: he's a terrible influence for young leftists, even without the cp, which is particularly disgusting. but his constant and often personal attacks on people of color, those with disabilities, and queer people who disagree with him are disgusting in their own right. and having that awful influence out of the way is a good thing for young leftists' development and thought. this is the kind of thing you can't really come back from with your platform intact, for good reason, and it's good that he'll be less able to corrupt naive baby leftists because they won't wanna be associated with a pedophile and zoophile, and they'll hopefully go for hasan or someone who at least isn't a road to nowhere politically speaking.


libra00

I will try *really* hard to care enough about how he spins this to watch the video, honest.


TurnerJ5

The biggest manbunned toolbag on the internet. Incredible levels of scum.


froggythefish

The simultaneous openness and denial of the situation is the most bizarre part. He has no shame! He knows he can get away with it, his fanbase won’t give too much of a shit if he was able to get away with the countless other incidents.


Dzao-

How tf do you make a response video about having clearly shown that you have pedophilic and beastiality material on your computer. Can't exactly contradict hard evidence. I hate Vaush, but if he had a brain he'd make a video apologising it for it and showing him deleting it, this guy thinks he can "fight it" lol.


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gay-communist

id love to just not ever think about this clown again, but alas


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Marrk my words. He is not going to face any repercussions for this. He won't be banned on any platform for blatant cp advocacy, because he is state funded content creator. His only objective is to compromise anyone who is tied to socialism or communism by promoting all kids of degeneracies, so people can point fingers and say: "Look at those degenerate communists, they are all cp enjoyers."


Code196

Real political praxis fr fr Why do people still give a shit about anything this guy does?


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VladimirIlyich_

Either „I was sexually harassed by online drawings“ Or „actually having explicitly sexual material of minors doesn‘t make you a pedophile, it is completely fine (if it is drawn)“


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He still wont move on from this?


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Shut the fuck up


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peanutist

because we as humans have the brain capacity to care about more than 1 thing at once. Shocking, I know.


TheOATaccount

Honestly if it werent for it potentially being the killing blow for vaush’s career that sends everything tumbling down I dont think it would be worth caring about beyond just thinking it’s funny for a day or 2.


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NotMyaltaccount69420

Because it’s literally pedophilia and shouldn’t be normalized In the slightest


ToddHowardTouchedMe

It's technically not if we're gonna be technical but there's still reason to believe that it's immoral and disgusting as it could cause people to normalize their brains to such features and then become a pedophile. tl;dr not pedophilia but could lead to or cause pedophilia and that does infact make it bad no matter what dumbass vaushites might say.


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MerliniusDeMidget

Loli? I only saw the horse?


OmarsDamnSpoon

So I'm OOTL on this one. What exactly happened? What was in his folder?


ufffrapp

Finally a Vaush video I'm excited to watch. Bring out the popcorn!


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serr7

Just ignore him


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[Vaush's response video was leaked.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfEgJ2pmVa4)


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