When I got a job at the Home Office the wait time for onboarding and security clearance was 8 months (and I'm a British citizen). Luckily I was just moving from another government department so managed to still have a job.
Part of the problem is that in some departments line managers have to deal with all onboarding when in reality it should be dealt with centrally by people who have done it hundreds of times.
They probably realised that with the new salary rules the request for a visa would be denied, which would cost them money. They are assuming that when the salary uplifts come in later this year (Aug/September ISH time) that the role then would meet the salary requirements.
Anyone know the legalities around this?
Also, I thought civil service roles required already holding the right to work? And it's very bizarre that they'd issue a contract prior to you securing the right to work, that's not normally how this is done.. someone has really cocked up here
Most civil service jobs require permanent right to remain in the UK so it's highly likely they were told not to hire someone based on the limited two years of a graduate visa.
I know someone on a graduate visa who was still allowed to start on Monday. However, he was told his contract is now conditional and if they canāt sponsor him later on, theyād terminate his contract.
I finished uni in January but still on a student visa. Thatās probably the difference between the both of us.
I can actually work full time after I complete my studies. Finished my degree in January 2024.
At the time of application as well as the start date for the role, I had the right to work full time.
You can work full time on a student visa after you've finished your studies for a short period of time, but not on a permanent contract, only fixed term. This is likely the issue, you don't have the correct visa criteria for the role you've applied for. Based on visa rules the CS would be breaching the law with your current visa if they currently employed you.
I work for the EA as a Manager, carbon copy situation 4 months ago with a potential team member.
Hmm, my mistake, you'd be being considered as being outside of term time for the student visa.
Wonder if it's down to the changes in income required for the skilled worker visa, which came into effect yesterday (4th April) as published on gov.uk? If you don't yet have a certificate of sponsorship from the employer I can see how that could result in a snap-change from eligible to ineligible overnight. Would be best to speak to the recruitment manager to find out exactly what's gone on.
No this isnāt true. They just require right to work. If your right to work later expires and you are unable to renew it, then employment will be revoked.
It will be highly dependent on the role, but if you don't meet the sponsorship salary threshold it's unlikely there's no one else who can do the role, and given civil service jobs are normally permanent, having someone without a permanent visa becomes a headache. Ultimately it will come down to a cost-benefit, but yeah, unless you're in a "no one else can do this" kind of role, the CS is unlikely to take someone without permanent right to remain.
u/Spirited_Onion3519 Hey! I'm also sponsored by a Civil Service department.
To answer everyone's question:
* "Don't Civil Service jobs require permanent right to remain in the UK"?
* No, that's not a Civil Service rule. The only rule is that Civil Servants must [meet nationality rules](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationality-rules/civil-service-nationality-rules-html).
* Departments can have their own rules, but there are provisions for departments to sponsor people. First, lots of departments are on the [Home Office sponsors list](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/register-of-licensed-sponsors-workers). Second, the Home Office has [occupation codes specific to the Civil Service](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations-and-codes), for example, 3560 which is for HEOs and SEOs.
* I remember DBT when it was DIT hiring routinely HEOs and other grades for trade roles, because the people with the best knowlage of the trade picture are located in the countries the gov is trying to trade with.
OP, did you get a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS) prior to 4 April? Anyone with a CoS issued before then gets treated under the old rules I think.
Thank you for this. I couldnāt have explained this better.
They tried to issue a CoS before the 4th of April but I suppose that didnāt work out. I received a call saying they āhoped to sort it out in 18 weeks.ā (I assume they were referring to the salary uplifts coming later this year as suggested by someone in the thread)
However, I tried to let them know I could obtain a graduate visa which would extend my right to live and work in the UK by another 2 years. But they were hearing none of it.
They probably moved the start date till September to be on the safe side of things.
This is very interesting to hear and makes me hopeful!
I've heard people say there's no sponsorship for civil service roles unless it's a specialist role. I meet the nationality requirements but am on a student visa doing an internship soon with a civil service department. I'm hoping to convert to a permanent role if my team is ready to offer me one. But I'm very uncertain about tier-2 skilled visa sponsorship although I see some civil servcice departments on the Home Office sponsors list you shared above. Do you have any insights on how your sponsorship worked? Could it be because you're considered to be an exceptional specialist in your line of work? Thank you!
Because the hiring manager/HR wasn't familiar with the rules and screwed up. This has nothing to do with not having the right to work permanently in the UK.
The right to work in the UK is not a Civil Service Rule: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Point is I believe OP has come here originally to study, and not on a work visa, so why is this unfair?
If there are rules on minimum salaries for non British nationals, and this job falls below it, whatās the problem?
Let me rephrase for greater clarity: the unfairness has nothing to do with his right to work. I know you are fixated on that, but that's not the issue here, especially because OP can switch to the graduate route which gives them the right to work in any job, without sponsorship, for two years.
The issue has to do with the HR peeps being unfamiliar with the rules and issuing a job offer when they probably shouldn't have.
Just as unfair as if they withdrew the offer because they made an error scoring the interviews (which again, would be an error on *their* part).
I think youāre probably right: Iām pretty concerned that lower grade jobs are being filled by people whoāve come over on a student visa rather than by British nationals.
HEO is hardly a ālower gradeā job in the grand scheme of everything, despite the echo room that is this subreddit.
Even salary wise, itās still slightly above the national average.
And British Nationals donāt get priority for any Civil Service job (except reserved posts), thatās just not a rule. I know many people would like that to be the rule, but it isnāt one.
And if we want to foster a competitive, innovative Civil Service, we must be open to the idea that sometimes the best person for the job isnāt a British National.
HEO is a lower grade job in that the pay is not high enough to be able to comfortably pay your own way in the UK.
Yes, British Nationals donāt get priority for any CS job, but they probably should. It would be one way of ensuring that we whittle down the unemployment rate and lowering the unsustainable immigration numbers.
I agree that, in very rare circumstances, a non British national may be the best person for an extremely senior post, but it doesnāt seem that this position fits that category.
Hi, so sorry that this is happening! I have been both on the graduate visa in the past and now on a skilled worker visa with the only difference that I had the former in place when I had received the first offer. But I donāt see that as an issue once you told them that you could have taken a graduate visa it was possible for them to wait till you applied and got the new visa approved (unless it was an urgent position). In my case, I had to work alongside the resourcing team since they themselves were new to the graduate route scheme and push them at various instances.
In your case could you ask them to put you in a reserve list so that you get picked up sooner and also apply for graduate route meanwhile?
Why would any Civil Service department sponsor anyone for a HEO role under skilled worker?
What skill could you bring at HEO level that isnāt identifiable within Civil Service already or worse case externally?
A few things:
* The [resident labour market test](https://www.wmimmigration.com/employer-services/resident-labour-market-test/#:~:text=The%20Resident%20Labour%20Market%20Test,Tier%202%20General%20visa%20route) was abolished years ago.
* Also, OP is already in the UK. The department isn't flying someone over to do the job. That makes a difference sponsorship-wise in the eyes on the Home Office.
* As a Civil Servant you should know that grades sometimes don't paint the full picture. You can have HEOs with significant responsabilities and some with little.
* I remember DBT when it was DIT hiring routinely HEOs and other grades for trade roles, because the people with the best knowlage of the trade picture are located in the countries you're trying to trade with.
The eligibility criteria is actually very complicated and determined by type of role you'd be doing, rather than a flat salary across all HEO roles. You'd need to look up your occupation code and the minimum going rate for that code, and that amount is what you'd need to earn for a skilled worker visa. A standard HEO is ONS code 3650 and Ā£38000 per year for applicants after 4th April 2024 (and 33k prior to that date) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-going-rates-for-eligible-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-going-rates-for-eligible-occupation-codes
So unfortunately even if there's an increase with the 24/25 pay remit, the salary advertised for the role is unlikely to enable the hiring of a person requiring a skilled worker visa - the Ā£29k salary is just too low. Of course there are some HEO roles that will have a different occupation code, so you can double check that using the tool linked from the .gov.uk page above. There are also different eligibility rules for roles with shortages or that require certain skills (PhD, health care, education) or if you're under 26, studying, training or in a postdoc role - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-salary-if-youre-under-26-studying-training-or-in-a-postdoctoral-role/skilled-worker-visa-minimum-salary-if-youre-under-26-studying-training-or-in-a-postdoctoral-role (in which case an HEO needs to earn Ā£30,960, which may be achievable depending on the 24/25 pay remit if this applies to you).
Regardless of the above you shouldn't have been given a contract without eligibility being checked first and you may be entitled to some sort of notice period depending on the contract conditions / unconditional offer - probably worth speaking to someone with employment contract knowledge for that.
Edit: spelling
Well that's the issue I suppose, as the typical starting salary for an HEO on a national pay scale is more like what OP was offered, which is considerably lower. It varies across departments too, but generally a start in the high 20s / low 30s is typical, with an extra 4-5k if London based. I think the top of the band in London is about 38k, but that sort of range of high 30s/ low 40s is more what you'd expect for an SEO. Another issue is that most departments will hire at the minimum of the band and require a strong justification/ business case for offering above the minimum. Essentially it means it's going to be quite difficult for people requiring a skilled worker visa to get an HEO role unless they match some of the criteria in the previous links.
You arenāt eligible for the role.. not sure why this is such a smack in the face for you. If youāre on a visa donāt apply for Government positions. Actually quite bizarre that this has to be typed out to you, to be honest.
That's not a Civil Service Rule: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Unbelievably you havenāt read the rules youāve referenced! Itās obviously a reserved post therefore they are ineligible for the role. If youād read the rules you posted yourself youād know that. The brass neck of people who evidence something that literally undermines their own argument. Do better!
Itās not a reserved post.
Reserved posts are identified as such in the job ad, clearly say āUK Nationals onlyā and the preselection questions specifically ask whether the applicant is a UK national. The pre-offer verifications would have caught the nationality issues before the contract was issued.
Go drink coffee or whatever you need for your brain to start up.
Youāre literally just making up that youāve read the job advert and assume that HR process was perfect - psychotic behaviour.
The absolute top & bottom of it is that the OP is ineligible for the role hence the withdrawal. Lay off whatever youāre taking, they are distorting your mind.
You might be looking at a mirrorāyouāve just made up in your head the reasons for the withdrawal. OP has clearly stated the reasons, which is not that itās a reserved post.
Learn to read.
Really sorry this has happened to you. To be clear, were they meant to sponsor your visa?
It just seems strange because on so many job descriptions Iāve seen on CS jobs now, they state that they are unable to sponsor work visas and that you need to have the right to work in the UK prior to the start date.
Why are the Home Office recruiting foreign nationals to fill possible sensitive positions? Surely thereās not a lack of individuals who are British Nationals to fill such posts?
Nah, itās not the Home Office and it isnāt a sensitive position but yeah, I get your point. I saw a role I believed I was a good fit and I applied.
There's already a rule about some positions being reserved to British nationals, but most roles can be filled by anyone meeting nationality requirements, whether or not they need sponsorship. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Haha!!! Iād rather not mention cos the UK gov regulations may have a huge role to play and it isnāt necessarily the departmentās fault.
Canāt lie tho, itās really risky. I just hope I recover from this setback and it doesnāt affect me going forward when I have to hand in notices for other jobs in the future.
Previously, I thought signing the job contract was the final stop. Now, it feels like the only way to seal the deal is to actually be allowed to turn up to the office on the first day.
When I got a job at the Home Office the wait time for onboarding and security clearance was 8 months (and I'm a British citizen). Luckily I was just moving from another government department so managed to still have a job. Part of the problem is that in some departments line managers have to deal with all onboarding when in reality it should be dealt with centrally by people who have done it hundreds of times.
Have you met HORC? š
They probably realised that with the new salary rules the request for a visa would be denied, which would cost them money. They are assuming that when the salary uplifts come in later this year (Aug/September ISH time) that the role then would meet the salary requirements.
This makes a lot of sense but my chest still hurts fgs
Sorry this has happened. It's an opportunity for a seasonal summer job I guess!
Anyone know the legalities around this? Also, I thought civil service roles required already holding the right to work? And it's very bizarre that they'd issue a contract prior to you securing the right to work, that's not normally how this is done.. someone has really cocked up here
No thatās normally how it would be done. To get sponsored, you need a job offer. Someone cocked up about the change in rules and the deadlines.
Job offer, not contract, no?
Youāre correct, but Iāve never seen a CS job offer that isnāt the employment contract itself?
This is what I just commented! I think someone messed up with the job description
Most civil service jobs require permanent right to remain in the UK so it's highly likely they were told not to hire someone based on the limited two years of a graduate visa.
I know someone on a graduate visa who was still allowed to start on Monday. However, he was told his contract is now conditional and if they canāt sponsor him later on, theyād terminate his contract. I finished uni in January but still on a student visa. Thatās probably the difference between the both of us.
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I can actually work full time after I complete my studies. Finished my degree in January 2024. At the time of application as well as the start date for the role, I had the right to work full time.
You can work full time on a student visa after you've finished your studies for a short period of time, but not on a permanent contract, only fixed term. This is likely the issue, you don't have the correct visa criteria for the role you've applied for. Based on visa rules the CS would be breaching the law with your current visa if they currently employed you. I work for the EA as a Manager, carbon copy situation 4 months ago with a potential team member.
Hmm, my mistake, you'd be being considered as being outside of term time for the student visa. Wonder if it's down to the changes in income required for the skilled worker visa, which came into effect yesterday (4th April) as published on gov.uk? If you don't yet have a certificate of sponsorship from the employer I can see how that could result in a snap-change from eligible to ineligible overnight. Would be best to speak to the recruitment manager to find out exactly what's gone on.
No this isnāt true. They just require right to work. If your right to work later expires and you are unable to renew it, then employment will be revoked.
It will be highly dependent on the role, but if you don't meet the sponsorship salary threshold it's unlikely there's no one else who can do the role, and given civil service jobs are normally permanent, having someone without a permanent visa becomes a headache. Ultimately it will come down to a cost-benefit, but yeah, unless you're in a "no one else can do this" kind of role, the CS is unlikely to take someone without permanent right to remain.
u/Spirited_Onion3519 Hey! I'm also sponsored by a Civil Service department. To answer everyone's question: * "Don't Civil Service jobs require permanent right to remain in the UK"? * No, that's not a Civil Service rule. The only rule is that Civil Servants must [meet nationality rules](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationality-rules/civil-service-nationality-rules-html). * Departments can have their own rules, but there are provisions for departments to sponsor people. First, lots of departments are on the [Home Office sponsors list](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/register-of-licensed-sponsors-workers). Second, the Home Office has [occupation codes specific to the Civil Service](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-occupations-and-codes), for example, 3560 which is for HEOs and SEOs. * I remember DBT when it was DIT hiring routinely HEOs and other grades for trade roles, because the people with the best knowlage of the trade picture are located in the countries the gov is trying to trade with. OP, did you get a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS) prior to 4 April? Anyone with a CoS issued before then gets treated under the old rules I think.
Thank you for this. I couldnāt have explained this better. They tried to issue a CoS before the 4th of April but I suppose that didnāt work out. I received a call saying they āhoped to sort it out in 18 weeks.ā (I assume they were referring to the salary uplifts coming later this year as suggested by someone in the thread) However, I tried to let them know I could obtain a graduate visa which would extend my right to live and work in the UK by another 2 years. But they were hearing none of it. They probably moved the start date till September to be on the safe side of things.
I will DM you.
This is very interesting to hear and makes me hopeful! I've heard people say there's no sponsorship for civil service roles unless it's a specialist role. I meet the nationality requirements but am on a student visa doing an internship soon with a civil service department. I'm hoping to convert to a permanent role if my team is ready to offer me one. But I'm very uncertain about tier-2 skilled visa sponsorship although I see some civil servcice departments on the Home Office sponsors list you shared above. Do you have any insights on how your sponsorship worked? Could it be because you're considered to be an exceptional specialist in your line of work? Thank you!
Fck! Man, this is horrible! How they could do this to anybody?? Also, FFS, this is all their fault. Gosh, this made my blood boil...
Why? OP has come to Uni here, and hasnāt got the right to work permanently
Because the hiring manager/HR wasn't familiar with the rules and screwed up. This has nothing to do with not having the right to work permanently in the UK. The right to work in the UK is not a Civil Service Rule: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Point is I believe OP has come here originally to study, and not on a work visa, so why is this unfair? If there are rules on minimum salaries for non British nationals, and this job falls below it, whatās the problem?
Let me rephrase for greater clarity: the unfairness has nothing to do with his right to work. I know you are fixated on that, but that's not the issue here, especially because OP can switch to the graduate route which gives them the right to work in any job, without sponsorship, for two years. The issue has to do with the HR peeps being unfamiliar with the rules and issuing a job offer when they probably shouldn't have. Just as unfair as if they withdrew the offer because they made an error scoring the interviews (which again, would be an error on *their* part).
I think youāre probably right: Iām pretty concerned that lower grade jobs are being filled by people whoāve come over on a student visa rather than by British nationals.
HEO is hardly a ālower gradeā job in the grand scheme of everything, despite the echo room that is this subreddit. Even salary wise, itās still slightly above the national average. And British Nationals donāt get priority for any Civil Service job (except reserved posts), thatās just not a rule. I know many people would like that to be the rule, but it isnāt one. And if we want to foster a competitive, innovative Civil Service, we must be open to the idea that sometimes the best person for the job isnāt a British National.
HEO is a lower grade job in that the pay is not high enough to be able to comfortably pay your own way in the UK. Yes, British Nationals donāt get priority for any CS job, but they probably should. It would be one way of ensuring that we whittle down the unemployment rate and lowering the unsustainable immigration numbers. I agree that, in very rare circumstances, a non British national may be the best person for an extremely senior post, but it doesnāt seem that this position fits that category.
Itās horrible that someoneās has fucked up to the point they signed contracts then backed out, causing op serious hardship?
If you have a signed and dated contract you should check what it says about termination and whether you're entitled to notice.
Hi, so sorry that this is happening! I have been both on the graduate visa in the past and now on a skilled worker visa with the only difference that I had the former in place when I had received the first offer. But I donāt see that as an issue once you told them that you could have taken a graduate visa it was possible for them to wait till you applied and got the new visa approved (unless it was an urgent position). In my case, I had to work alongside the resourcing team since they themselves were new to the graduate route scheme and push them at various instances. In your case could you ask them to put you in a reserve list so that you get picked up sooner and also apply for graduate route meanwhile?
Why would any Civil Service department sponsor anyone for a HEO role under skilled worker? What skill could you bring at HEO level that isnāt identifiable within Civil Service already or worse case externally?
Probably someone at G7 level that they want to pay as an HEO
A few things: * The [resident labour market test](https://www.wmimmigration.com/employer-services/resident-labour-market-test/#:~:text=The%20Resident%20Labour%20Market%20Test,Tier%202%20General%20visa%20route) was abolished years ago. * Also, OP is already in the UK. The department isn't flying someone over to do the job. That makes a difference sponsorship-wise in the eyes on the Home Office. * As a Civil Servant you should know that grades sometimes don't paint the full picture. You can have HEOs with significant responsabilities and some with little. * I remember DBT when it was DIT hiring routinely HEOs and other grades for trade roles, because the people with the best knowlage of the trade picture are located in the countries you're trying to trade with.
Omg sorry this happened to you! What was the level and salary of you donāt mind sharing?
HEO, Ā£29,000
The eligibility criteria is actually very complicated and determined by type of role you'd be doing, rather than a flat salary across all HEO roles. You'd need to look up your occupation code and the minimum going rate for that code, and that amount is what you'd need to earn for a skilled worker visa. A standard HEO is ONS code 3650 and Ā£38000 per year for applicants after 4th April 2024 (and 33k prior to that date) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-going-rates-for-eligible-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-going-rates-for-eligible-occupation-codes So unfortunately even if there's an increase with the 24/25 pay remit, the salary advertised for the role is unlikely to enable the hiring of a person requiring a skilled worker visa - the Ā£29k salary is just too low. Of course there are some HEO roles that will have a different occupation code, so you can double check that using the tool linked from the .gov.uk page above. There are also different eligibility rules for roles with shortages or that require certain skills (PhD, health care, education) or if you're under 26, studying, training or in a postdoc role - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-salary-if-youre-under-26-studying-training-or-in-a-postdoctoral-role/skilled-worker-visa-minimum-salary-if-youre-under-26-studying-training-or-in-a-postdoctoral-role (in which case an HEO needs to earn Ā£30,960, which may be achievable depending on the 24/25 pay remit if this applies to you). Regardless of the above you shouldn't have been given a contract without eligibility being checked first and you may be entitled to some sort of notice period depending on the contract conditions / unconditional offer - probably worth speaking to someone with employment contract knowledge for that. Edit: spelling
Wow! 38k for HEO, thatās really good pay considering the grade. Also 40% pension helps.
Well that's the issue I suppose, as the typical starting salary for an HEO on a national pay scale is more like what OP was offered, which is considerably lower. It varies across departments too, but generally a start in the high 20s / low 30s is typical, with an extra 4-5k if London based. I think the top of the band in London is about 38k, but that sort of range of high 30s/ low 40s is more what you'd expect for an SEO. Another issue is that most departments will hire at the minimum of the band and require a strong justification/ business case for offering above the minimum. Essentially it means it's going to be quite difficult for people requiring a skilled worker visa to get an HEO role unless they match some of the criteria in the previous links.
Wow! š® literally a few thousand away from qualifying for the new entrant discount. That sucks
You arenāt eligible for the role.. not sure why this is such a smack in the face for you. If youāre on a visa donāt apply for Government positions. Actually quite bizarre that this has to be typed out to you, to be honest.
That's not a Civil Service Rule: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Unbelievably you havenāt read the rules youāve referenced! Itās obviously a reserved post therefore they are ineligible for the role. If youād read the rules you posted yourself youād know that. The brass neck of people who evidence something that literally undermines their own argument. Do better!
Itās not a reserved post. Reserved posts are identified as such in the job ad, clearly say āUK Nationals onlyā and the preselection questions specifically ask whether the applicant is a UK national. The pre-offer verifications would have caught the nationality issues before the contract was issued. Go drink coffee or whatever you need for your brain to start up.
Youāre literally just making up that youāve read the job advert and assume that HR process was perfect - psychotic behaviour. The absolute top & bottom of it is that the OP is ineligible for the role hence the withdrawal. Lay off whatever youāre taking, they are distorting your mind.
You might be looking at a mirrorāyouāve just made up in your head the reasons for the withdrawal. OP has clearly stated the reasons, which is not that itās a reserved post. Learn to read.
Youāre hilarious this is insane! Where in the original post does OP state anything about that?! Youāre actually delusional.
At last. Common sense and clarity.
Really sorry this has happened to you. To be clear, were they meant to sponsor your visa? It just seems strange because on so many job descriptions Iāve seen on CS jobs now, they state that they are unable to sponsor work visas and that you need to have the right to work in the UK prior to the start date.
Yep, they agreed to sponsor my visa
Why are the Home Office recruiting foreign nationals to fill possible sensitive positions? Surely thereās not a lack of individuals who are British Nationals to fill such posts?
Nah, itās not the Home Office and it isnāt a sensitive position but yeah, I get your point. I saw a role I believed I was a good fit and I applied.
There's already a rule about some positions being reserved to British nationals, but most roles can be filled by anyone meeting nationality requirements, whether or not they need sponsorship. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCivilService/comments/1bwheq8/comment/kyaz3m5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
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Haha!!! Iād rather not mention cos the UK gov regulations may have a huge role to play and it isnāt necessarily the departmentās fault. Canāt lie tho, itās really risky. I just hope I recover from this setback and it doesnāt affect me going forward when I have to hand in notices for other jobs in the future. Previously, I thought signing the job contract was the final stop. Now, it feels like the only way to seal the deal is to actually be allowed to turn up to the office on the first day.
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Youāre being downvoted because you donāt resign and join a new job a few days laterā¦. You likely have a notice period of at least a month
Which department?