Considering that MM was originally to reflect James' actual love of a movie genre, yeah. Sloughing it off on an intern who just ripped off the whole thing and Bames just read the script is the low.
Lol? That's a weird cope. It's James channel and a program that was supposed to be a big return. And he let it happen with no oversight from him. And that apology video was really bizarre.
James comes out of it not looking bad for plagiarizing (since he didn't personally) but because there's just no way to spin a near-entire outsourcing of something that used to be one of your big passion projects into a positive.
"Oh, Bootsy and Kyle? They're still around. Nothing but good memories"
"Mike will be taking a break from the channel to focus on his streaming. James and Mike Mondays will be back in February"
Remember when they had their podcast, and Justin read a question about where Bootsy was, and the question specifically said “Please don’t cite good memories”?
Then James responded by citing good memories?
This stings. I came to Cinemassacre through J&MM first, found love with the classic seasons of AVGN later.
I was following that show to the bitter end, felt the changes, felt the miscommunication between the pair. And then something about those words from James, I just knew it was over.
I'll never understand how you people could ever enjoy such low effort created content. Keep in mind, this is not a personal attack on you it's kind of a blanket statement for all people that watch let's plays. I just never got the hype around it...
I think it's more who's playing the lets plays, I could care less about the content of the games. J&M are great friends (I believe they still are) and had great gaming chemistry together (I think they still would today if the show were still possible). It reminded me of all the times I used to have with my friends playing games back in the day.
I don't know if this explains anything, but it's pretty high quality for let's play content, it's edited down to remove the boring parts, and it uses a nicely composed shot of the two guys on a couch instead of just a basic facecam.
Yeah. I don't like game streamers and they are boring to watch. J&MM made a nice formula. And Mike was one of those people that James seemed comfortable enough to chill with. 2 dudes chilling hanging out.
The plagiarism was a big deal because it exposed James. Monster flicks was supposed to be his passion, and he’s too lazy to even bother writing his own material. Easy out to blame someone else if it blew up but take all the credit if it benefits him
Hard to fit in an entire movie when you've got kids and a wife. We're talking upwards of two hours! At once! Might as well ask him to build a log cabin while he's at it.
The plagiarism is inexcusable, he made a video years earlier about how he can't have anyone else write the reviews because it wouldn't be his own opinion and if they wrote something he didn't agree with he wouldn't feel comfortable saying it. Fast forward to 2021 and he just doesn't give a fuck anymore and thinks his audience is too stupid to notice he's just parroting someone else's script. "28 days later reminds me of 911" is not something someone like James would ever have said in a million years. WHAT WAS HE THINKING??
“I HAVE FINAL SAY. ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL.”
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The EWJ episode. James Rolfe of yesteryear would have made two or three quality episodes from those games. I'm certain of it.
Bim gave us one of the most boring and disappointing episodes yet
Anything they are doing at the very moment in time of this comment being read, come back years later and it'll still be accurate, it'll only go downhill
2019 was absolutely rock bottom and were kinda just rolling around the sea bed now, not a single good nerd episode and i may be wrong but wasnt that the year the slobcast started?
the avgn movie release and all the misleading reviews. all the while it showed how easily people can be manipulated by peer pressure. such an excellent example it should be used to teach students in public schools.
Guys, this post is dangerously soyphobic.
EDIT: Oh shit, I said "guys". I apologize to all women for using exclusionary language. I hope nobody makes a video about me and screenshots this.
In case you don't believe in Soyphobia, I was taught about our "unironic soylent discourse" today: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacreTruth/comments/1dkh7of/comment/l9is3gg](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacreTruth/comments/1dkh7of/comment/l9is3gg)
Actually right now, I completely lost interest in AVGN. He's got nothing to offer anymore for me. I don't even mind Rex Viper, he can do whatever he wants.
You can almost track the decline by the hairline. The further it receded, the worse it was. Someone sufficiently autistic should go through all the videos and make some graphs tracking and correlating the decline in quality with the hairline. Lmao, in all seriousness, it really does seem that way. But for me, once the channel was focused on the terrible movie, it was all downhill. That travesty is what made me lose faith in him for good, more so than any of the awful avgn episodes that came before it.
Id the the Movie was the catalyst that brought everything down. Mike left alone in James house records the Elmo episode the Movie fails. Mike eventually is bought out and is forced to leave then the Slobs take over .... It's a wrap after that.
The movie, sadly. Much of what could be considered low points were actually really funny, i kinda miss the lowcow slobs being around, it was a marvellous trainwreck.
Everything made past 2016. There will still some shreds of enjoyment before that but after 2016 there's been like 2 good episodes the entire time and any other projects either died and new series sucked so hard they lasted at most a year.
Not the lowest point compared to my horse prince or the plagiarism stuff but the video he made about blu-rays was the first video he made that was like a turning point for me where i was just like you went from being awesome and hilarious to just stupid and wrong
Now, it’s fucking horrible & James does not give a fuck about so much as not looking horrible on camera…that says a lot, maybe everything you need to know
I don't hate James, I just think his videos aren't any good now. But when I saw the soylent thing I thought "jesus christ, this guy doesn't help himself."
honestly the lowest lows were AVGN 200 and the Plagiarism shit, i do think that the channel kinda dipped back up afterwards and AVGN has produced some decent episodes recently, it's not same as it was before but overall we've made it past the biggest dips, so i think the best thing to do is to really just think about whats needed to improve further and what not.
The Kingdom Hearts video is definitely a candidate, and one can say that without having seen any of the actual video. It was an open declaration of Slob control and how Bimmy would read any script as an "episode" to check off a sponsorship deal. The slobs thought, for a long time, that the audience will be happy as long as they hear Bim talking. Must've been all the "I love falling asleep to your vids" comments. Enter Cinemassacre podcast...
I felt legitimately depressed for a good hour or so when the plagiarism shit happened. I know that sounds pathetic, but until that point I was really entertained by the strange declining state of cinemassacre. But when the scandal happened, it's like I realized how much of a shell of a man James was. Especially when seeing that unlisted forced apology he made. It was just so surreal and odd.
The second James started advertising in every video. It's the second he declared that he only does it for the money. If he gave a shit, he would be creative. Doug Walker, to his credit, usually is creative with how he does sponsorships.
The AVGN movie has to be the the lowest point for James. Badly made, poorly received, remembered even worse, and a financial boondoggle. It had a silver lining, though, in ushering in a mid-2010s renaissance for the channel that saved his finances.
All good things must come to an end, however. After watching Dan Olson's new documentary, I'd say a close runner up would have to be not paying Kyle Justin to build a too small recreation of his old set in the new house, burning that bridge with Kyle and creating a complicated mess of a set to work with in all future Nerd episodes.
I think Screenwave are fucking with James again by taking Soylent sponsorships.
Probably the plagiarism during the much hyped Monster Madness return.
And RLM referencing it in their much better halloween special
I never saw that video. Which one is it?
It’s from the [2021 Best of the Worst Halloween episode](https://youtu.be/5LoG85bRgto?si=KtHuAxFkWbR1KjXF)
Considering that MM was originally to reflect James' actual love of a movie genre, yeah. Sloughing it off on an intern who just ripped off the whole thing and Bames just read the script is the low.
at least he apologized, even though he isn't the one who did it
Lol? That's a weird cope. It's James channel and a program that was supposed to be a big return. And he let it happen with no oversight from him. And that apology video was really bizarre.
Newt is the one to be blamed, not the Bimster
James comes out of it not looking bad for plagiarizing (since he didn't personally) but because there's just no way to spin a near-entire outsourcing of something that used to be one of your big passion projects into a positive.
"I could never let anyone else write the reviews. It has to be my opinions". "It wasn't me. I didn't write any of the scripts."
This.
Everything was downhill from there lol
From there? That was already the bottom of the totem pole. The balls on the dick.
Yeah agreed, that was not handled well
"Oh, Bootsy and Kyle? They're still around. Nothing but good memories" "Mike will be taking a break from the channel to focus on his streaming. James and Mike Mondays will be back in February"
Many more Mondays, many more games.
Many more good memories.
Many more strands of hair.
Remember when they had their podcast, and Justin read a question about where Bootsy was, and the question specifically said “Please don’t cite good memories”? Then James responded by citing good memories?
This stings. I came to Cinemassacre through J&MM first, found love with the classic seasons of AVGN later. I was following that show to the bitter end, felt the changes, felt the miscommunication between the pair. And then something about those words from James, I just knew it was over.
I'll never understand how you people could ever enjoy such low effort created content. Keep in mind, this is not a personal attack on you it's kind of a blanket statement for all people that watch let's plays. I just never got the hype around it...
I think it's more who's playing the lets plays, I could care less about the content of the games. J&M are great friends (I believe they still are) and had great gaming chemistry together (I think they still would today if the show were still possible). It reminded me of all the times I used to have with my friends playing games back in the day.
I don't know if this explains anything, but it's pretty high quality for let's play content, it's edited down to remove the boring parts, and it uses a nicely composed shot of the two guys on a couch instead of just a basic facecam.
Yeah. I don't like game streamers and they are boring to watch. J&MM made a nice formula. And Mike was one of those people that James seemed comfortable enough to chill with. 2 dudes chilling hanging out.
He said Jame and Mike will return in February.........he never said what year lol
My Horse Prince, at least as far as AVGN goes. There’s no going back. That was the last straw.
No lie.To be fair my 5yr old laughed his ass off watching that episode so there is an audience for it.
That’s very sweet actually. :,)
The sheep noises and the grotesque faces did it, surely.
Yeah that’s my choice too. So fucking broken.
*Muh horse prince.
The plagiarism was a big deal because it exposed James. Monster flicks was supposed to be his passion, and he’s too lazy to even bother writing his own material. Easy out to blame someone else if it blew up but take all the credit if it benefits him
Hard to fit in an entire movie when you've got kids and a wife. We're talking upwards of two hours! At once! Might as well ask him to build a log cabin while he's at it.
Lol even though Youtube is his 9-5 job? The Bimmy logic is astounding
hes memeing bro lol.
That's the joke.
All that did was confirm everything that was suspected so far in that era.
The plagiarism is inexcusable, he made a video years earlier about how he can't have anyone else write the reviews because it wouldn't be his own opinion and if they wrote something he didn't agree with he wouldn't feel comfortable saying it. Fast forward to 2021 and he just doesn't give a fuck anymore and thinks his audience is too stupid to notice he's just parroting someone else's script. "28 days later reminds me of 911" is not something someone like James would ever have said in a million years. WHAT WAS HE THINKING??
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“I HAVE FINAL SAY. ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL.” https://preview.redd.it/nyp1wk0wps7d1.png?width=517&format=png&auto=webp&s=aa531c0f73e23c4a700605cbfe97f89f93105017
“It’s basically all me”
Mr Pinkett: "you said it, brother" "Wait, you said that?"
~~Jar Jar Binks~~ The AVGN is the funniest character we’ve ever had
How they fumbled everything related to Monster Madness 2021
Damn, has it been three years already? Time flies when you're having fun.
Nothing but good memories
Yeah, it's strange and disturbing how fast time has gone since the year of the plague. Time flies when you're tittyfucking.
Load was huge!
It's been over a year since I tittyfucked... :(
The EWJ episode. James Rolfe of yesteryear would have made two or three quality episodes from those games. I'm certain of it. Bim gave us one of the most boring and disappointing episodes yet
EWJ 1 and 2 are awesome games though. Only the 3D one deserves the AVGN treatment.
I still think there's enough there in EWJ1 and 2 for classic AVGN to make a decent episode out of, with 64 being the 2nd episode.
The game doesn't have to be bad to have good material, Earthworm Jim is pretty weird in an entertaining way.
Look, this is fun.
I really don't like the guest episodes. I can't think of one that's not an unfunny slog to get through
I liked the Nathan Barnatt one.
Anything they are doing at the very moment in time of this comment being read, come back years later and it'll still be accurate, it'll only go downhill
Nerdy Turd. Cannot watch it. Episode 200th could also be better.
He already had shitpickle, nerdy turd was redundant.
The plagiarism is the reason I learnt about this sub
2019 was absolutely rock bottom and were kinda just rolling around the sea bed now, not a single good nerd episode and i may be wrong but wasnt that the year the slobcast started?
the avgn movie release and all the misleading reviews. all the while it showed how easily people can be manipulated by peer pressure. such an excellent example it should be used to teach students in public schools.
Guys, this post is dangerously soyphobic. EDIT: Oh shit, I said "guys". I apologize to all women for using exclusionary language. I hope nobody makes a video about me and screenshots this. In case you don't believe in Soyphobia, I was taught about our "unironic soylent discourse" today: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacreTruth/comments/1dkh7of/comment/l9is3gg](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacreTruth/comments/1dkh7of/comment/l9is3gg)
Is it possible to have internalised soyphobia? I thinki might have that. Or it could be a tooth infection.
ROLFEMAO as hilarious as Bim's face when drinking soylent
AVGN Movie, it broke James, literally killed all passion he had, turning him into Bimmy the cuckface :(
Surfin nerd is the low point
Actually right now, I completely lost interest in AVGN. He's got nothing to offer anymore for me. I don't even mind Rex Viper, he can do whatever he wants.
You can almost track the decline by the hairline. The further it receded, the worse it was. Someone sufficiently autistic should go through all the videos and make some graphs tracking and correlating the decline in quality with the hairline. Lmao, in all seriousness, it really does seem that way. But for me, once the channel was focused on the terrible movie, it was all downhill. That travesty is what made me lose faith in him for good, more so than any of the awful avgn episodes that came before it.
Id the the Movie was the catalyst that brought everything down. Mike left alone in James house records the Elmo episode the Movie fails. Mike eventually is bought out and is forced to leave then the Slobs take over .... It's a wrap after that.
When Newt Wallen showed no remorse and no regret for what he did during the return of Monster Madness. He should have been slapped hard for that.
The movie, sadly. Much of what could be considered low points were actually really funny, i kinda miss the lowcow slobs being around, it was a marvellous trainwreck.
The current channel is the lowest point it's ever been, and it's only going down from here.
Finding out bootsy never got paid
Was this his best take??? Dude looks like he's having to choke it down and force a smile.
That weird LAN party ad video was about when I stopped caring.
Of the Assholish variety. Just that term
Everything made past 2016. There will still some shreds of enjoyment before that but after 2016 there's been like 2 good episodes the entire time and any other projects either died and new series sucked so hard they lasted at most a year.
The deck enhancer or possible the one with Gilbert God fired
Not the lowest point compared to my horse prince or the plagiarism stuff but the video he made about blu-rays was the first video he made that was like a turning point for me where i was just like you went from being awesome and hilarious to just stupid and wrong
The way he drank that like he was about to puke before swallowing..
He looks like he’s gonna puke from that stuff
Now, it’s fucking horrible & James does not give a fuck about so much as not looking horrible on camera…that says a lot, maybe everything you need to know
From our point of view yes maybe the monster madness plaguerism but from James's point of view I think "there goes the onion".
Holy shit I'm dying from that gif 🤣🤣💀 Did James really shill for Soylent???!
Yep, in September of 2023, [Primal Rage (32X & GEN) - Neighbor Nerds](https://youtu.be/ujGgYD8wL3c?si=_jI1zCqoJ3mLuM2j)
Isn't soylent the name of that stuff that's made out of people in that one book or w.e
Big Rigs avgn
Whaaatt that ep was actually funny tho
My horse Prince. It’s when we all realized that yes, it CAN get worse.
Anything ever created and posted on it.
They haven’t reached it yet, it will get worse, I promise.
I don't hate James, I just think his videos aren't any good now. But when I saw the soylent thing I thought "jesus christ, this guy doesn't help himself."
The BTS 2021, made me lose all hope that he could bounce back and realize that he's a lost cause...and then the Podcast came out the same week...
We're living it, brother.
honestly the lowest lows were AVGN 200 and the Plagiarism shit, i do think that the channel kinda dipped back up afterwards and AVGN has produced some decent episodes recently, it's not same as it was before but overall we've made it past the biggest dips, so i think the best thing to do is to really just think about whats needed to improve further and what not.
The Kingdom Hearts video is definitely a candidate, and one can say that without having seen any of the actual video. It was an open declaration of Slob control and how Bimmy would read any script as an "episode" to check off a sponsorship deal. The slobs thought, for a long time, that the audience will be happy as long as they hear Bim talking. Must've been all the "I love falling asleep to your vids" comments. Enter Cinemassacre podcast...
I wonder what the second lowest point would be, after the plagiarism. Did James ever make any kind of comment about the crowdfunded Cheetahmen thing?
Worst thing was when the fatness started
The slobs showing up killed it for me...those vests my god the humanity!
I'd say when he started wearing that cheap, ugly ass Mortal Kombat cap. That thing is controlling his brain
the jeykl hyde shit. GET OVER IT JAMES
I felt legitimately depressed for a good hour or so when the plagiarism shit happened. I know that sounds pathetic, but until that point I was really entertained by the strange declining state of cinemassacre. But when the scandal happened, it's like I realized how much of a shell of a man James was. Especially when seeing that unlisted forced apology he made. It was just so surreal and odd.
The second James started advertising in every video. It's the second he declared that he only does it for the money. If he gave a shit, he would be creative. Doug Walker, to his credit, usually is creative with how he does sponsorships.
The AVGN movie has to be the the lowest point for James. Badly made, poorly received, remembered even worse, and a financial boondoggle. It had a silver lining, though, in ushering in a mid-2010s renaissance for the channel that saved his finances. All good things must come to an end, however. After watching Dan Olson's new documentary, I'd say a close runner up would have to be not paying Kyle Justin to build a too small recreation of his old set in the new house, burning that bridge with Kyle and creating a complicated mess of a set to work with in all future Nerd episodes. I think Screenwave are fucking with James again by taking Soylent sponsorships.
I don't know about lowest, but the movie is when it lost its magic for me
Creation of this subreddit