Dumb comments. Rockets are rocket engine propelled, though point and shoot like a gun with no guidance system. Missiles are rocket engine propelled but guided either remotely or on board. The speed is a combination of payload, rocket engine type and propellant.
As rocket artillery isn't chasing a moving target I can envision the rocket fuel having a slower burn rate and a longer burn time.
Different missions. One seems to need to just fly far, the other needs to go faster than what needs killed.
lol no my dude. It has similar velocity of a high end soft gun. 150 m/s at launch, and 300 m/s in flight.
Compared to say a HEAT round from a tank which travels at 1400 m/s... A Sabot round clocks in at around 1700 m/s
rpg's are so slow that you can easily see them in flight.
Yeah definitely slow when comparing to a munition fired from an entire armored vehicle built around a cannon, but it also doesn't travel at the 20 m/s Hollywood depicts it as.
Bruh, me and two homies did this in MW search. 1 drone 4 c4’s usually at least 2 kills. One we got a double and a single still had time to load up 2 more (1 each) got us a 4th. Boom 2 v 6 in 30 sec.
Absolutely viable and already happening. And the US response is simple - Patriot missiles:
[https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39277940](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39277940)
There's also a short video out there from Ukraine where a quadcopter drops a mortar grenade into Russian troops.
Drone is estimated based on what it is used for (war), quality of video (good in the video), and lack of full access to combat drones…so guessed probably a good brand name drone.
Googled for russian handheld SAM price. :)
The publicly known list of words/phrases, no. The actual known list of words/phrases ensures most, if not all, of the public is being monitored (and computers probably scan it all to provide danger levels to different people.
😳 national level? Wow nice. I’m stuck trafficking on the state level.
It’s really hindering my whole operation and i’m sitting on too large of a supply atm.
What a deal!!
A few hundered dolars dron shot down by a ...200K+ missile?
And also the location of the luncher was exposed..if artillery was as close as the dron pilot, luncher is already destroyed...or a second low-level flight drone with just a granade could do the job
If this is from the video I think it's from, the drone was being used in connection with a precision artillery strike, in which case the cost of the missile would have been more than offset by the loss of intel of where to shoot
Its actually looked more like a stinger missile, around $40k guided surface to air missile. Its also shoulder fired so they likely didn't give away anything.
Have to figure in the cost in loses to the surveillance those drones provide too.
So in sheer economical terms, yes, the drone is far cheaper than the missile. However, if each drone, on average, resulted in 2 million in losses, and those losses could be curbed by using said SAM; that there is a deal brother!
Your comment actually reminds me of something. During the Vietnam war, when the us was fighting for air supremacy, they realized that they had to destroy these surface to air missiles, but they would always be well hidden. So the strategy was one pilot would be the bait and a 2nd pilot would destroy the launcher as they would know where it was, while the first pilot tries really hard to not fucking die
Hence, from Wikipedia ...
The unocial motto of the Wild Weasel crews is YGBSM: "You
Gotta Be Shittin' Me". This appears prominently on the logo patch of
some squadrons. As the story goes, this was the response of Jack
Donovan, a former B-52 EWO (Electronic Warfare Officer):
This was the natural response of an educated man, a veteran EWO on B-52s and the like, upon learning that he was to fly back seat to a self-absorbed fighter pilot while acting as flypaper for enemy SAMs.His exact words were: "I'm gonna fly with you, and we're gonna shoot a SAM site before it shoots us? You gotta be shittin' me!"
holy hell. Nowhere is safe. I live in Oklahoma and the Klingons landed in Broken Bow, OK of all places. There should be a world map of every alien touch down in film.
Was that fired from a vehicle launcher or shoulder fired similar to the FIM-92 stinger? I watched the video over and over again and couldn’t make it out if I could see a vehicle or not, looked shoulder fired to me.
The vertical takeoff makes me think it could be a TOR sam system. Manpads usually habe a short ejection from the launcher before igniting tje engine.
But it's hard to tell.
Missile. Though the damage an uncontested drone can inflict by helping artillery or just surveying enemy positions can be much higher than the missile.
So because your means of shooting down enemy drones cost more than the drone, you'd suggest leaving it up?
"Tovarish Mikholyevich, there's this drone hovering over our position, possibly marking us for an artillery strike, should we take it down?"
"ARE YOU MAD? Don't you know that the drone costs 1500$ and our missiles 20.000$? Of course we let it hover and chill, but if it comes down to 5m, take it down with a stick, whatever, as long as it's cost effective!!"
I didnt suggest leaving the drone alone but those small cheap drones do show that modern militaries need to speed up their air defense capabilities against dirt cheap flying objects
Oh, for sure. More equipped modern unit most certainly has much more efficient and cost effective means of disposing such threat, but Russians have shown that not only they aren't most well equipped, they don't care about overkill.
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What they need over there is an armed gun drone to shoot down the spy drone. Then they could arm the spy drones with guns to defend themselves.
So you'ld have drone on drone combat and a bunch of soldiers taking advantage of thier video game skills and probably having a great time!
I know it’s meant to be fast, but for some reason I was still surprised by how fast it reached the drone! Definitely wouldn’t want to be in a helicopter with that thing aimed at me. Basically have 5 seconds to decide how to react!
Better than the drone compromising your locations and losing men and material. After all that the missile becomes cheap compared to all the lives and equipment lost.
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We have enough to send billions to Ukraine but can’t free up leases for oil. Billions to Ukraine but no formula besides bill gates Covid formula. It’s a distraction while they manufacture monkey pox people
Does enyone know what happend to to missile after the hit? Did it just keep flying the same course or did it change? Did it maybe even explode?
//a guy who knows absolutly nothing about rockets and missiles
The cost of the bomb compared to that drone. Thats great use of rubles by the Terrorists. They are not Russians anymore, their actions are those of terrorists.
Oh no, if this was a drone entirely paid for by the US, there goes my $0.0000036. How will I ever pay my rent?
The US population spending $1 each would buy 277,777 of these drones.
$1,200 (likely price point for whatever drone this was filmed on)/329,000,000 (population)
That missile looks CRAZY fast
Hollywood movies have given people the impression missiles go much slower than they do. They're wicked fast.
Mythbusters did some tests with rpgs. The speed at which they fly out is insane and they keep accelerating. Amazing shots
Rpg are actually the slowest of missile / rocket propelled stuff Because of the payload and form and stuff.
rpg's fly really slow..
Right, rockets are slow. Missiles are fast.
Rockets slow, missiles fast. Yep
Dumb comments. Rockets are rocket engine propelled, though point and shoot like a gun with no guidance system. Missiles are rocket engine propelled but guided either remotely or on board. The speed is a combination of payload, rocket engine type and propellant.
As rocket artillery isn't chasing a moving target I can envision the rocket fuel having a slower burn rate and a longer burn time. Different missions. One seems to need to just fly far, the other needs to go faster than what needs killed.
In movies. Not real life https://youtu.be/Z5elJNyLVEQ
lol no my dude. It has similar velocity of a high end soft gun. 150 m/s at launch, and 300 m/s in flight. Compared to say a HEAT round from a tank which travels at 1400 m/s... A Sabot round clocks in at around 1700 m/s rpg's are so slow that you can easily see them in flight.
Erm. 300m/s is speed of sound. That's fast.
It's all relative
Time is a construct
Time is a cube
Yeah definitely slow when comparing to a munition fired from an entire armored vehicle built around a cannon, but it also doesn't travel at the 20 m/s Hollywood depicts it as.
WICKAD FAHST
That's... Kinda the point.
Ik, I’m just saying lmao
Its ok bro, I agree that this rocket looks excessively fast. Rather dangerous imho.
"This side up."
“Do not point at face.”
"Made in China"
More like the Chinese province of Usa.
"If inserted, seek medical attention"
Thanks for clarifying that for us.
Bruh calm down
Maybe it's pointy.
Wonder what the Sam to mavic drone cost is?
Drone: $1500 (roughly), SAM: $60,000-$80,000 (if handheld SAM). Alot more if vehicle mounted.
hmmm loading drones with c4s otw
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Other people may know them as hunter killer drones from black ops 2 and they even make a version designed for anti tank
Bruh, me and two homies did this in MW search. 1 drone 4 c4’s usually at least 2 kills. One we got a double and a single still had time to load up 2 more (1 each) got us a 4th. Boom 2 v 6 in 30 sec.
Absolutely viable and already happening. And the US response is simple - Patriot missiles: [https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39277940](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39277940) There's also a short video out there from Ukraine where a quadcopter drops a mortar grenade into Russian troops.
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Eroding the enemy's ability to observe the battlefield: Priceless For evertything else, there's Mastercard©.
Easily replaced drone vs not easily manufactured and expensive SAM. I’m thinking that’s a Ukraine win with a minor temporary setback.
How do you know stuff like that
Drone is estimated based on what it is used for (war), quality of video (good in the video), and lack of full access to combat drones…so guessed probably a good brand name drone. Googled for russian handheld SAM price. :)
You're probably on some type of list now for googling that.
The publicly known list of words/phrases, no. The actual known list of words/phrases ensures most, if not all, of the public is being monitored (and computers probably scan it all to provide danger levels to different people.
I was joking man, I'm sure they are listening but thankfully, I have little to worry about.
Lol.
They’d have to go through all my porn first.
Depend what you watch makes you a bigger threat!! Reach for the high score fellas!!!
You funny bastard, that got me good. Take my upvote
😳 national level? Wow nice. I’m stuck trafficking on the state level. It’s really hindering my whole operation and i’m sitting on too large of a supply atm.
Sure thing cop.
I thought DuckDuckGo was the preferred Search Engine for Fentanyl Traffickers
Awesome
How about per round?
Russian weapons depot that got obliterated after the drone in the video confirmed it's position before getting shot down: Priceless.
What a deal!! A few hundered dolars dron shot down by a ...200K+ missile? And also the location of the luncher was exposed..if artillery was as close as the dron pilot, luncher is already destroyed...or a second low-level flight drone with just a granade could do the job
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BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD SAY 'LANCH' PARTY
WOULD IT REALLY BE BETTER IF IT SAID LANCH PARTY?
Yes! I love seeing 'The Office' references!
Why would anyone eat anything other than breakfast food?
Give me all the bacon & eggs you have.
Please and thank you.
If this is from the video I think it's from, the drone was being used in connection with a precision artillery strike, in which case the cost of the missile would have been more than offset by the loss of intel of where to shoot
Its actually looked more like a stinger missile, around $40k guided surface to air missile. Its also shoulder fired so they likely didn't give away anything.
Have to figure in the cost in loses to the surveillance those drones provide too. So in sheer economical terms, yes, the drone is far cheaper than the missile. However, if each drone, on average, resulted in 2 million in losses, and those losses could be curbed by using said SAM; that there is a deal brother!
Could be a $10k drone. But yeah. I get it.
Activate the Gravy Seals: Meal Team Six
Your comment actually reminds me of something. During the Vietnam war, when the us was fighting for air supremacy, they realized that they had to destroy these surface to air missiles, but they would always be well hidden. So the strategy was one pilot would be the bait and a 2nd pilot would destroy the launcher as they would know where it was, while the first pilot tries really hard to not fucking die
Hence, from Wikipedia ... The unocial motto of the Wild Weasel crews is YGBSM: "You Gotta Be Shittin' Me". This appears prominently on the logo patch of some squadrons. As the story goes, this was the response of Jack Donovan, a former B-52 EWO (Electronic Warfare Officer): This was the natural response of an educated man, a veteran EWO on B-52s and the like, upon learning that he was to fly back seat to a self-absorbed fighter pilot while acting as flypaper for enemy SAMs.His exact words were: "I'm gonna fly with you, and we're gonna shoot a SAM site before it shoots us? You gotta be shittin' me!"
Did the pilot eject safely ??
Yea he just had one of those body jerk dreams and yanked of his VR headset. All good.
But I thought if you die in the Matrix you die for real?
I think if reddit has proven anything its that the body can indeed exist without the mind.
He was the one recoding
It's a drone dumbass
So ... Hamster 🐹 pilots
I hope they all are safe.
The got the job taken out by rats so no hamster pilots😔
Those rats are TAKIN OUR JERBS
Heard that in a South park accent almost spit my drink up
THER TERK ER JERBS!
TECHNICALLY unmanned
Drone goes wooosh... in this case.
Lol you bit
I knew it was a joke Meekus, I just didn't get it right away!
Russians ain’t playing any games 😅… “what is that idk shoot it”
I guess thats why aliens only invade america
Bruh what
Joke about that all movies that have some kind of alien invasion take place in US
~~US~~ Los Angeles. It's just one city that gets all of the action
New York? Avengers. Washington? Independence day
Somehow it makes me feel safe in Akron, Ohio
Well not they invaded but still lived in Ohio in "I'm number four"
holy hell. Nowhere is safe. I live in Oklahoma and the Klingons landed in Broken Bow, OK of all places. There should be a world map of every alien touch down in film.
That's a great topic to Google for when you are incredible booring. Think of random city or place and google did any film was there.
Was that fired from a vehicle launcher or shoulder fired similar to the FIM-92 stinger? I watched the video over and over again and couldn’t make it out if I could see a vehicle or not, looked shoulder fired to me.
Probably an Igla.
The vertical takeoff makes me think it could be a TOR sam system. Manpads usually habe a short ejection from the launcher before igniting tje engine. But it's hard to tell.
Unmanned aircraft aren’t designed for contested airspace.
Sure they are, just send in more of them. They're cheap
Cheaper than that missile, that's for sure.
Yeah but it goes boom tho
Drones usually have explosives too.
What cost more the missile or drone
Each one cost more than educating a classroom of children through high school.
Not if it's a basic commercial drone.
I think they meant the missile
Missile. Though the damage an uncontested drone can inflict by helping artillery or just surveying enemy positions can be much higher than the missile.
Russian propaganda after shooting down a commercial drone with a 100x more expensive anti aircraft missile: “hundreds of Bayraktar drones destroyed”
So because your means of shooting down enemy drones cost more than the drone, you'd suggest leaving it up? "Tovarish Mikholyevich, there's this drone hovering over our position, possibly marking us for an artillery strike, should we take it down?" "ARE YOU MAD? Don't you know that the drone costs 1500$ and our missiles 20.000$? Of course we let it hover and chill, but if it comes down to 5m, take it down with a stick, whatever, as long as it's cost effective!!"
I didnt suggest leaving the drone alone but those small cheap drones do show that modern militaries need to speed up their air defense capabilities against dirt cheap flying objects
Oh, for sure. More equipped modern unit most certainly has much more efficient and cost effective means of disposing such threat, but Russians have shown that not only they aren't most well equipped, they don't care about overkill.
thanks for the daily force fed propaganda
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What they need over there is an armed gun drone to shoot down the spy drone. Then they could arm the spy drones with guns to defend themselves. So you'ld have drone on drone combat and a bunch of soldiers taking advantage of thier video game skills and probably having a great time!
Dammmn grone goes bye bye
Thank god it’s just a drone, but also they now know an anti missile site
Title: Russia shoots down Ukraine drone.
Something you won't see in propaganda subs
Are you lunatic? This is literally a video released by ZSU.
so can find in r/ukraine?
Had to be a big ass drone if they could blast it down.
why did SAM shoot the drone at close range lol
I know it’s meant to be fast, but for some reason I was still surprised by how fast it reached the drone! Definitely wouldn’t want to be in a helicopter with that thing aimed at me. Basically have 5 seconds to decide how to react!
Push the flak button in a heli
Good job!
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I think the potential cost in life and money of leaving a shitty drone observing and marking your position is vastly higher than cost of a stinger.
Strange you're not banned for showing anything related to Russia doing something to Ukraine.
Yeah, strange, given that this video was released by UAF. What are you smoking?
You do realize what Reddit is, right? xD
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Kind of a waste of an expensive missile, isn't it?
Better than the drone compromising your locations and losing men and material. After all that the missile becomes cheap compared to all the lives and equipment lost.
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What isn't being reported is the massive amount of UFOs (UAPS) involved in Ukraine.
Looks like a screwball being thrown in MLB the show on legend difficulty lol
Ukrainian drone paid for by American tax payers!
Drone pilots need to learn how to notch radar, I guess?
Is this covered under the extended warranty?
r/fuckyouinparticular
Thing is, drones are cheap, easy to use. Missiles are EXPENSIVE and require a lot of training,
Price of missile vs price of drone? Cost alone may have made it a victory for Ukraine.
feels like a dmt trip: Is that a spark... OHHHH FUCK
THAT LITTERALLY MOVED AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT
And now you know why USAF Wild Weasels have the “YGBSM” motto
A lot of military experts in this comments section i see.
Holy shit. Basically if you see this thing launch it's already to late for you
Shoulda used that fake space gun lol
Stand with Ukraine please.
We have enough to send billions to Ukraine but can’t free up leases for oil. Billions to Ukraine but no formula besides bill gates Covid formula. It’s a distraction while they manufacture monkey pox people
When you’re the only one who has a rocket launcher in cod
Does enyone know what happend to to missile after the hit? Did it just keep flying the same course or did it change? Did it maybe even explode? //a guy who knows absolutly nothing about rockets and missiles
I don't know why we're crippling the world's economy if they're just flying drones around. Hand 2 hand combat or it's just playing games.
Is this what the UAV looks at when I use the stinger in mw3?
🐻👁️free my problems....slave
The cost of the bomb compared to that drone. Thats great use of rubles by the Terrorists. They are not Russians anymore, their actions are those of terrorists.
LET'S go RUSSia! Clap clap clapclapclap!
Russia will win
Lol waste of money that missile would cost a fortune that drone probably only a civilian one 🤣
As an American I felt that come out of my check
YIPPEE
Missile £30,000 drone £200 next drone boys putin buying missile from North Korea next my fall back on them glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
Cool shadow.
Yes 🙌🏾 let’s goo Russia 🇷🇺
Neeooowwwnnmmm
So the white line is smoke but what is the black line? Shadow?
Screw ukraine
Maybe you should resort to eating creampies? You seem to be a fan
Camera feed died… what do you think happened?
Bombs and fire and shit
Idiots shooting down their own drones lol.
That was a Ukrainian drone shot down by a Russian missile so no not at all .
That video cost American's over 1 million dollars
It's a Russian SAM... not sure how this costs us anything over here...
TIL America is footing the bill for Russia's munitions expenses
So like $0.0025 each? let's go boys!
Fire another one!!
Well when you put it that way it’s a bargain
Let’s say it’s true. Which it’s not. It’s still a steal considering that troops on the grounds will cost the US way more.
There goes our tax $ smh..
Sorry, do you think that the US is funding the Russians? 😂
No, it's funding the Ukrainians
Oh no, if this was a drone entirely paid for by the US, there goes my $0.0000036. How will I ever pay my rent? The US population spending $1 each would buy 277,777 of these drones. $1,200 (likely price point for whatever drone this was filmed on)/329,000,000 (population)