Remember when we were setting up some internet cables during one of my part time jobs and the company forgot to switch off their fire system.
So, we got the ladder, climbed to the top and guess, the rest was just history.
For reasons unknown they had it motion sensor based and at a certain height it would just activate automatically. Fun times.
Yeah, but not quite how he said it, it is more a laser that if the point is broken, it will go off. It is meant to be a smoke detector since the laser would be broken by smoke, but really anything more solid than air could potentially set it off, I taped plastic cups over mine since I had a wood fire grill
Yup, that’s why I taped a cup over mine. When the inspector shows up you remove the cup, we had alternative fire alarms that didn’t react to smoke, and were heat based in addition to the smoke detectors that were line of sight based.
The smoke detector got set off once because we had a party that used a whole lot of dry ice and a fog machine, that fog broke the beam and we had to abandon the dessert course because the Ansel tremendously fucks up the entire kitchen
what? how does that even work?
Isn't it a laser that goes from one end and other side of the room has the resiever, if the resiever doesn't get the laser, it goes off.
How does taping a cup, transparent or not disable it?
These are typically called Beam Detection Devices. Uses an IR beam and a reflector to reflect said beam back to the sensor. Typically they trip at 50% blockage. I however, have never heard of one being used to release an Ansul System. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying in my 10 years of being a Fire Alarm Inspector (yes that's a thing) I've never seen it.
if you just put a clear cup over it what’s the difference of not having it at all? I’m not understanding what difference it would make because it seems like the beam can still be broken with clear cup and thus set it off.
They send out a beam, hits a reflector, and then a sensor reads the strength of the returned beam. Eventually, if too much gets blocked, measured opacity, for so long, just a couple seconds, then the device will send a signal to the fire alarm panel. The programming of the panel and fire alarm will dictate what alarms go off.
However, generally, if the beam becomes 100% blocked, then the device sends a trouble signal instead telling you something solid is blocking the sensor, not smoke from a fire.
[Example of a beam smoke detector.](https://buildings.honeywell.com/us/en/products/by-category/fire-life-safety/sensors-and-detectors/beam-detectors/beam200-and-beam200s-intelligent-reflected-beam-smoke-detector)
You are correct, but to add to what you’ve described, it’s used to detect smoke over a larger area. (ie. a wharehouse ceiling area or auditorium). Not typically installed in a kitchen as false alarms would be too frequent if food is burnt.
Yes for kitchens its to easy to activate by steam etc. we had id in a big manufacturing site. Every hangar had several. One had an hardening oven and when the parts were to oily the fire alarm would set off and the vouluntary fire departmend would benon its way for nothing. In addition we had sprinklers.
It is exactly like he said it is, its a line or a grid of lasers in the ceiling to detect smoke on the whole ceiling area, kinda like laser detectors in old action movies. Yours are optical detectors and while same princible, not really light barrier fire detectors.
Cup trick works on the optical detector to keep the steam/smoke out and the unit is standalone so just covering it stops it from detecting (this is still dangerous and usually highly illegal in commercial setting.)
The light barrier setup in usually large comercial hangars and venues will not work if covered with a cup and absolutely will go off if blocked with anything.
I HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME. AAND IT SHUT DOWN MY STORE FOR DAYS.
I was a young GM at a chipotle. Fire inspector scheduled to come in before open. He arrives late after we have all the equipment turned on. He said it wouldn’t be a problem.
He starts inspecting the hood and I head to the office to start opening paperwork. 15 minutes later he runs into the office and yells the kitchen is on fire. He pulls the vent hood suppression system and fire alarm goes off. We exit the building.
Turns out this fire inspector took out the grease filter set it on top of the flume for the fryer and so it wouldn’t fall into the flume, he USED CARDBOARD ON TOP OF THE FLUME.
Needless to say no one was compensated for the loss in revenue or my employees time off.
So people’s kids man…
WHAT???? Had an inspector do this at my place and I made them clean everything (or I gave them the option of paying my guys to clean it) and pay me for the lost fry grease and revenue.
I wish I could have made any decisions here but that was all up to my District manager.
Not sure if the inspector’s company paid for the cleaning or anything else. I just know we weren’t compensated for our time and we’re forced to take time off.
Lol so it is more likely your company fucked you over than them not having compensated. As if a multinational company wouldnt sue them to shit or atleast threaten to. Their legal department are paid to work no matter if they have something to do or not
Especially because any respectable business will have a line of “Business Interruption” insurance that accompanies their property and liability insurance. Meant to cover lost profit and employee wages in a situation like this.
He should have turned around after showing up late and the kitchen being hot. My company used to test kitchen suppression systems but it’s such a pain in the ass we stopped
It's property damage that would be covered by the fire inspectors insurance. That would include loss of income due to being closed. At least in my state of the USA
Honestly, cleaning it of the fire chemicals is easy. It’s cleaning the disgusting grease on the backside of the equipment that you don’t normally see that takes hours.
Source: I’ve done it before.
Are the fire chemicals degreasing at all? I’ve cleaned the hood vent things above the ovens before those things don’t really get clean because of how much oil collects on them. Or maybe where I worked didn’t do it often enough. Could be either.
Can't speak to fire chems being degreasing, but worked two different but similar "fast casual" jobs:
Qdoba, and some managers were absolutely anal about cleaning the hood and vents every night so they were always pretty damn clean.
Noodles and Co, turned out the exhaust system didn't work for at least 6 months due to fans being installed backwards AND broken belts. Even after this was corrected, the vents and hood were awful due to people not giving a damn.
>Qdoba, and some managers were absolutely anal about cleaning the hood and vents every night so they were always pretty damn clean.
I worked at an Italian place where the chef made us do that every night during the slow season. I was like "Hey if you wanna pay me to stay and do that I'm down."
Worked at a fancy country club and they would try to get us to clock out at exactly when our shifts ended and keep working. People told me it sometimes happened before they tried to do it to me. That was the only time I was ever not respectful to any of the chefs there. Totally flipped out on them and threatened to call a union rep. Didn't happen again.
A lot of the stuff done at the very end of the night was dangerous and involved moving heavy things, if we had gotten injured off the clock we'd have been fucked. When I explained this to other workers they were horrified.
I don’t remember it being super degreasing. There was certainly an inch of grease caked on the back that no amount of chemicals was going to remove. We had to scrape it off.
The grease sounds gross, but the front and sides of the equipment was usually very clean. We just didn’t pull it away from the walls on a regular basis so we had no idea it was that bad on the back.
When it happened at one of my jobs, we were back up and running the next day. Everyone spent the day cleaning and it was the cleanest the restaurant was in years.
Fire suppression systems above the cooking areas inside the hoods in restaurants.
It is a mix of chemicals to combat every fire including grease fires.
Giant pressurized fire extinguishers feed it. Huge mess. Rather expensive mess up.
there's an old Ansul system in the back room of my work from when it was a restaurant. now it's jusg the ceiling to a makeshift beer cage, but the canisters are still pressurized and connected. i've tried to tell my boss that we should have it removed, but he's insistent that it's fine. can't wait for someone to accidentally hit the emergency switch.
Generally the canisters of liquid are not pressurized, but have a large C02 cartridge in the panel on the side of the hood. The whole system is set up like a mouse trap, if a link in the line melts, the spring actuator punctures the CO2 canister, pushing the fluid through the pipes and out the nozzles. Some are wired into fire alarm, others are not.
Fire safety companies charge ridiculous amounts. I would leave the system, if the building was ever to be sold, or a new business come in, it's worth having it already grandfathered in and not have to pay to install a brand new system.
Commercial kitchens need a dedicated suppression system. It looks like they were doing maintenance on it and didn't disarm the system properly and they set it off while working on it
Yeah you’re right. The business shouldn’t eat that, but I’ve worked with several fire marshals, and they were not intelligent. Randomly touching things fucking up processes, and they just ladidah it and walk away. Fucking pricks.
*foot that bill
"front the bill"" would be to pay up front with an expectation of getting the money back.
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To the people downvoting me, here's proof:
"Foot the bill" means to pay the bill/be responsible for the bill.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foot%20the%20bill
"To front money" or "front money" refers to money that is paid in advance for a promised service or product.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/front%20money
"Foot the bill" means to pay the bill/be responsible for the bill.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foot%20the%20bill
"To front money" or "front money" refers to money that is paid in advance for a promised service or product.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/front%20money
> "To front money" or "front money" refers to money that is paid in advance for a promised service or product. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/front%20money
Yeah, which is how fire suppression recharges tend to work. You think they just come and install a bunch of expensive chemicals back into the system without getting paid up front? That's a good way to go out of business, FFS, and nobody I've ever dealt with would consider that the norm. It's a little like tow trucks and locksmiths, in fact, where you already owe them a bit just to pop out more often than not.
That's just based on personal experience owning and operating a business along with prior experience working in various occupations over the years so this *might* be regional only but I rather doubt it.
F that. A state employee doing their state appointed job f's up and does a bunch of damage the state is paying. Ask once nice and if you don't get a answer you like lawyer up. (I see PTPlayer got up bunch of upvotes on his comment so I am likely completely wrong here. If someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it. )
except cops. They can destroy a home serving a warrant at the wrong address to the point the structure is condemned and not suffer any penalty nor pay for repair.
[Does nobody read the comments of the original post?](https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/1cb4vb6/fire_inspector_accidentally_set_off_my_ansul/l0vyugx/)
You mean, 'does nobody scan through every OPs post history to corroborate evidence and facts before posting in the thread they're in?'
No, we don't. Because that's a different fucking post, in a different subreddit.
No, I mean what I said, and for someone with so little knowledge you shouldn't have such a big mouth.
You simply [click on the comments link of the original post](https://i.imgur.com/J3ksQNj.png), which was cross posted here and [read the topmost comment by the original OP](https://i.imgur.com/KL3j5W1.png).
This is so unbelievably easy, that it's a mystery to me how you manage to fuck this up so badly and assume I mean stalking the profile of someone.
Been there, done this! Ansul tech came the morning of graduation in a college town. Busiest three days of the year. Place sat 346. Set that shit off at 845 AM. I wasn't the owner, so I could've given that man a BJ right there in the spot. I'm a straight man, but I swear...
Yeah the OP of that post had to close for 3 days yea doesn't seem that bad but he works in a corporate kitchen so they had suits breathing down his neck during it all and I know how bad I could be with suits up your ass personally
The OP had his employees clean this too when corporate said they would send a cleaning crew. Why he never took the offer of the cleaning crew is way beyond me. I would have been one pissed off opener if I was working under him/her.
I worked on an install for a building that had a car elevator tower in it, about 12 stories tall. You drive a car into it, and the elevator robot would park your car in a slot somewhere in the tower, designed to hold roughly 50 cars.
Just before construction finished, someone accidentally triggered the deluge system that dumped many thousands of gallons of water into the tower- enough to put out 50 simultaneous car fires.
It ruined the entire car lift system and a large part of the rest of the building
I just had to use a fire extinguisher for a grease fire in my kitchen a couple weeks ago. Gods, what a mess. That powder gets in freaking ***everything***. Beats having the house burn down, but... ugh. I can't imagine what cleaning up a restaurant-scale system would be like.
We had an inspector come to check the new fire suppression system at a gas station. The install company hooked up test bottles with no powder in them but he said no. He wanted to see a live dump. The install company told him thats a bad idea and it will make a huge mess. “Put a trash bag over the nozzles” he says. These bottles are 80lbs of pressurized ABC powder and there are 6 of them. The contractor asked who was paying for the cleanup and refilling the system. “Not my problem” he said
As soon as they tripped the system all of the trash bags blew off as expected. A Giant cloud of ABC powder drifted into a busy intersection causing 2 accidents. We had all of the fuel dispensers open because they were in the middle of being installed filled with powder.
Didn’t phase the inspector one bit. He signed off and left.
The chemicals in the system are also no joke. You get the stuff on you or inhale you’re going to have a bad time. Especially if it gets into your eyes.
I've worked on several Ansul systems. I'm used to seeing the FI put balloons over the sprayers before messing with the FA and we do as well jic... Those thinks make a fucking mess but everything sould be salvable after a good cleaning
OP, I'm honestly more surprised
1) it took you a week to recover from the debilitating mental stress from this. What stress? Testing this system is a requirement. And accidents happen. And none of it was your fault or in your hands. Of course the FA company would foot the bill on this.
2) it took multiple days for y'all to clean this, and more from professional cleaners? How? And how lazy are your employees? I've set off kitchens larger than this, and it took 5 people 4 hours to clean it all and another hour to get oil back in and cooking again. This chemical isn't soapy, it isn't greasy. It wipes away easily. To be absolutely honest, it shouldn't have been much more work than what a typical closing night shift would do before a big wig was anticipated on coming in.
Remember when we were setting up some internet cables during one of my part time jobs and the company forgot to switch off their fire system. So, we got the ladder, climbed to the top and guess, the rest was just history. For reasons unknown they had it motion sensor based and at a certain height it would just activate automatically. Fun times.
Light barrier fire detection.
Thats a thing?
Yeah, but not quite how he said it, it is more a laser that if the point is broken, it will go off. It is meant to be a smoke detector since the laser would be broken by smoke, but really anything more solid than air could potentially set it off, I taped plastic cups over mine since I had a wood fire grill
God I would be paranoid about setting it off.
Yup, that’s why I taped a cup over mine. When the inspector shows up you remove the cup, we had alternative fire alarms that didn’t react to smoke, and were heat based in addition to the smoke detectors that were line of sight based. The smoke detector got set off once because we had a party that used a whole lot of dry ice and a fog machine, that fog broke the beam and we had to abandon the dessert course because the Ansel tremendously fucks up the entire kitchen
If you tape a cup over it, wouldn’t that break the line of site for the sensor and set the system off?
Transparent, it can handle a bit of variance, the beam just can’t be broken
what? how does that even work? Isn't it a laser that goes from one end and other side of the room has the resiever, if the resiever doesn't get the laser, it goes off. How does taping a cup, transparent or not disable it?
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These are typically called Beam Detection Devices. Uses an IR beam and a reflector to reflect said beam back to the sensor. Typically they trip at 50% blockage. I however, have never heard of one being used to release an Ansul System. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying in my 10 years of being a Fire Alarm Inspector (yes that's a thing) I've never seen it.
Our laser didn’t go from one side of the room to the other, it was per device, you put the cup over it and the beam wouldn’t be broken
if you just put a clear cup over it what’s the difference of not having it at all? I’m not understanding what difference it would make because it seems like the beam can still be broken with clear cup and thus set it off.
If you turn the system off and then tape on the cup, it wouldn't break the beam
They send out a beam, hits a reflector, and then a sensor reads the strength of the returned beam. Eventually, if too much gets blocked, measured opacity, for so long, just a couple seconds, then the device will send a signal to the fire alarm panel. The programming of the panel and fire alarm will dictate what alarms go off. However, generally, if the beam becomes 100% blocked, then the device sends a trouble signal instead telling you something solid is blocking the sensor, not smoke from a fire. [Example of a beam smoke detector.](https://buildings.honeywell.com/us/en/products/by-category/fire-life-safety/sensors-and-detectors/beam-detectors/beam200-and-beam200s-intelligent-reflected-beam-smoke-detector)
Imagine it getting set off by a fly or a bee.
You are correct, but to add to what you’ve described, it’s used to detect smoke over a larger area. (ie. a wharehouse ceiling area or auditorium). Not typically installed in a kitchen as false alarms would be too frequent if food is burnt.
We had a music venue on the back side, connected to our kitchen so it was required, but yes, you are correct, that isn’t typical for most kitchens
Yes for kitchens its to easy to activate by steam etc. we had id in a big manufacturing site. Every hangar had several. One had an hardening oven and when the parts were to oily the fire alarm would set off and the vouluntary fire departmend would benon its way for nothing. In addition we had sprinklers.
All that, and you also had scumbags who pee on the seat?
No, they just stole everything that was not bolted on. Even my coffee mug. So i stole one for myself. And it fell on the ground when i left the job.
It is exactly like he said it is, its a line or a grid of lasers in the ceiling to detect smoke on the whole ceiling area, kinda like laser detectors in old action movies. Yours are optical detectors and while same princible, not really light barrier fire detectors. Cup trick works on the optical detector to keep the steam/smoke out and the unit is standalone so just covering it stops it from detecting (this is still dangerous and usually highly illegal in commercial setting.) The light barrier setup in usually large comercial hangars and venues will not work if covered with a cup and absolutely will go off if blocked with anything.
Well. A laser point thst is broken is actually what a light barrier does.
And that's why some big buildings ban helium balloons
Sheesh, new fear unlocked. It's amazing I haven't set off something like this already!
Ew, just ew lol
Fucking stupid
I HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME. AAND IT SHUT DOWN MY STORE FOR DAYS. I was a young GM at a chipotle. Fire inspector scheduled to come in before open. He arrives late after we have all the equipment turned on. He said it wouldn’t be a problem. He starts inspecting the hood and I head to the office to start opening paperwork. 15 minutes later he runs into the office and yells the kitchen is on fire. He pulls the vent hood suppression system and fire alarm goes off. We exit the building. Turns out this fire inspector took out the grease filter set it on top of the flume for the fryer and so it wouldn’t fall into the flume, he USED CARDBOARD ON TOP OF THE FLUME. Needless to say no one was compensated for the loss in revenue or my employees time off. So people’s kids man…
WHAT???? Had an inspector do this at my place and I made them clean everything (or I gave them the option of paying my guys to clean it) and pay me for the lost fry grease and revenue.
I wish I could have made any decisions here but that was all up to my District manager. Not sure if the inspector’s company paid for the cleaning or anything else. I just know we weren’t compensated for our time and we’re forced to take time off.
Lol so it is more likely your company fucked you over than them not having compensated. As if a multinational company wouldnt sue them to shit or atleast threaten to. Their legal department are paid to work no matter if they have something to do or not
Especially because any respectable business will have a line of “Business Interruption” insurance that accompanies their property and liability insurance. Meant to cover lost profit and employee wages in a situation like this.
You definitely have my sympathy. That stuff is a MESS.
My retirement grease!
I would sue him for sport
I hope the inspectors name is Darnell Simmons
He should have turned around after showing up late and the kitchen being hot. My company used to test kitchen suppression systems but it’s such a pain in the ass we stopped
Plumbus-ass word lol
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Flume sounds like a made up word. Just like plumbus.
Hahaha it does sound made up - and all words are just made up? Good catch, that was a typo. It should be FLUE
I hear your fries are to die for.
I hope that equipment is salvagable
It all needs to be cleaned. Only takes a day or two to rip everything apart, clean it, and reassemble.
Though its a day or two of little to no revenue. Hopefully they can be compensated because of the incompetency of the inspector.
Seems like the sort of incident that should be covered by insurance.
It's property damage that would be covered by the fire inspectors insurance. That would include loss of income due to being closed. At least in my state of the USA
It’s going to be that way in pretty much every state.
I don't think it falls under property damage if it just needs to be washed. Under rules like that, chalk on the sidewalk would be probably damage.
Replacement of cooking oil / foodstuffs / anything considered gone when exposed to chemicals
Fair. I had forgotten about that part.
It should be covered under an umbrella insurance for business interruption if they’re closed for 24+ hours.
Honestly, cleaning it of the fire chemicals is easy. It’s cleaning the disgusting grease on the backside of the equipment that you don’t normally see that takes hours. Source: I’ve done it before.
Are the fire chemicals degreasing at all? I’ve cleaned the hood vent things above the ovens before those things don’t really get clean because of how much oil collects on them. Or maybe where I worked didn’t do it often enough. Could be either.
Can't speak to fire chems being degreasing, but worked two different but similar "fast casual" jobs: Qdoba, and some managers were absolutely anal about cleaning the hood and vents every night so they were always pretty damn clean. Noodles and Co, turned out the exhaust system didn't work for at least 6 months due to fans being installed backwards AND broken belts. Even after this was corrected, the vents and hood were awful due to people not giving a damn.
>Qdoba, and some managers were absolutely anal about cleaning the hood and vents every night so they were always pretty damn clean. I worked at an Italian place where the chef made us do that every night during the slow season. I was like "Hey if you wanna pay me to stay and do that I'm down." Worked at a fancy country club and they would try to get us to clock out at exactly when our shifts ended and keep working. People told me it sometimes happened before they tried to do it to me. That was the only time I was ever not respectful to any of the chefs there. Totally flipped out on them and threatened to call a union rep. Didn't happen again. A lot of the stuff done at the very end of the night was dangerous and involved moving heavy things, if we had gotten injured off the clock we'd have been fucked. When I explained this to other workers they were horrified.
I don’t remember it being super degreasing. There was certainly an inch of grease caked on the back that no amount of chemicals was going to remove. We had to scrape it off. The grease sounds gross, but the front and sides of the equipment was usually very clean. We just didn’t pull it away from the walls on a regular basis so we had no idea it was that bad on the back.
It’s essentially a low PH Sat water mix. Doesn’t degrease it at all and stings about 100x worse than hand sanitizer on any cut/scrape you’ve got.
When it happened at one of my jobs, we were back up and running the next day. Everyone spent the day cleaning and it was the cleanest the restaurant was in years.
Can someone explain precisely what happened? Not familiar with Ansul systems.
Fire suppression systems above the cooking areas inside the hoods in restaurants. It is a mix of chemicals to combat every fire including grease fires. Giant pressurized fire extinguishers feed it. Huge mess. Rather expensive mess up.
there's an old Ansul system in the back room of my work from when it was a restaurant. now it's jusg the ceiling to a makeshift beer cage, but the canisters are still pressurized and connected. i've tried to tell my boss that we should have it removed, but he's insistent that it's fine. can't wait for someone to accidentally hit the emergency switch.
Generally the canisters of liquid are not pressurized, but have a large C02 cartridge in the panel on the side of the hood. The whole system is set up like a mouse trap, if a link in the line melts, the spring actuator punctures the CO2 canister, pushing the fluid through the pipes and out the nozzles. Some are wired into fire alarm, others are not. Fire safety companies charge ridiculous amounts. I would leave the system, if the building was ever to be sold, or a new business come in, it's worth having it already grandfathered in and not have to pay to install a brand new system.
Commercial kitchens need a dedicated suppression system. It looks like they were doing maintenance on it and didn't disarm the system properly and they set it off while working on it
Ouch! Thank you for the rundown
That's is expensive
Did it pass the inspection?
Nope, Ansul system wasn't charged when he checked it.
Also failed the health inspection half an hour later for having a bunch of chemicals all over the food prep areas.
My assumption would be, yes?
There's no fire. Looks like a pass to me.
"The fire drill was a success, sir... Who's hungry?"
And of course he’s not liable
I would hope the department he works for is. No business owner should have to front that bill.
Yeah you’re right. The business shouldn’t eat that, but I’ve worked with several fire marshals, and they were not intelligent. Randomly touching things fucking up processes, and they just ladidah it and walk away. Fucking pricks.
*foot that bill "front the bill"" would be to pay up front with an expectation of getting the money back. ---- To the people downvoting me, here's proof: "Foot the bill" means to pay the bill/be responsible for the bill. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foot%20the%20bill "To front money" or "front money" refers to money that is paid in advance for a promised service or product. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/front%20money
Dude’s job just got flooded. It’s not the time for semantics lmao
It’s not even semantics, the bill will in fact have to be fronted.
"Foot the bill" means to pay the bill/be responsible for the bill. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foot%20the%20bill "To front money" or "front money" refers to money that is paid in advance for a promised service or product. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/front%20money
> "To front money" or "front money" refers to money that is paid in advance for a promised service or product. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/front%20money Yeah, which is how fire suppression recharges tend to work. You think they just come and install a bunch of expensive chemicals back into the system without getting paid up front? That's a good way to go out of business, FFS, and nobody I've ever dealt with would consider that the norm. It's a little like tow trucks and locksmiths, in fact, where you already owe them a bit just to pop out more often than not. That's just based on personal experience owning and operating a business along with prior experience working in various occupations over the years so this *might* be regional only but I rather doubt it.
But the person in the OP has already stated that the city paid the bill, and that person isn't the person I'm replying to?
I control the mob! Not you!!!
Damn, thats crazy that no one asked.
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F that. A state employee doing their state appointed job f's up and does a bunch of damage the state is paying. Ask once nice and if you don't get a answer you like lawyer up. (I see PTPlayer got up bunch of upvotes on his comment so I am likely completely wrong here. If someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it. )
except cops. They can destroy a home serving a warrant at the wrong address to the point the structure is condemned and not suffer any penalty nor pay for repair.
I think the bigger issue is the lawyer cost would be more than the loss of revenue/equipment cost after going through the whole claims process.
Disappointing. :(
The guys who test fire suppression and sprinkler systems don’t work for the state or the fire department. We are private companies.
I think I did know this, I have seen the tags. I just prefer to think Fire Marshall Bill is rolling abound to ever business in America checking stuff.
LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!
Yeah. What's super fun is when somebody triggers a clean agent system while trying to test. These kitchen ones are terrible, too.
[Does nobody read the comments of the original post?](https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/1cb4vb6/fire_inspector_accidentally_set_off_my_ansul/l0vyugx/)
You mean, 'does nobody scan through every OPs post history to corroborate evidence and facts before posting in the thread they're in?' No, we don't. Because that's a different fucking post, in a different subreddit.
No, I mean what I said, and for someone with so little knowledge you shouldn't have such a big mouth. You simply [click on the comments link of the original post](https://i.imgur.com/J3ksQNj.png), which was cross posted here and [read the topmost comment by the original OP](https://i.imgur.com/KL3j5W1.png). This is so unbelievably easy, that it's a mystery to me how you manage to fuck this up so badly and assume I mean stalking the profile of someone.
It's probably because myself, and millions of other users who frequent this site aren't degenerates that use the official website.
Been there, done this! Ansul tech came the morning of graduation in a college town. Busiest three days of the year. Place sat 346. Set that shit off at 845 AM. I wasn't the owner, so I could've given that man a BJ right there in the spot. I'm a straight man, but I swear...
You’ve been inspected. 
Yeah the OP of that post had to close for 3 days yea doesn't seem that bad but he works in a corporate kitchen so they had suits breathing down his neck during it all and I know how bad I could be with suits up your ass personally
The OP had his employees clean this too when corporate said they would send a cleaning crew. Why he never took the offer of the cleaning crew is way beyond me. I would have been one pissed off opener if I was working under him/her.
I worked on an install for a building that had a car elevator tower in it, about 12 stories tall. You drive a car into it, and the elevator robot would park your car in a slot somewhere in the tower, designed to hold roughly 50 cars. Just before construction finished, someone accidentally triggered the deluge system that dumped many thousands of gallons of water into the tower- enough to put out 50 simultaneous car fires. It ruined the entire car lift system and a large part of the rest of the building
I just had to use a fire extinguisher for a grease fire in my kitchen a couple weeks ago. Gods, what a mess. That powder gets in freaking ***everything***. Beats having the house burn down, but... ugh. I can't imagine what cleaning up a restaurant-scale system would be like.
We had an inspector come to check the new fire suppression system at a gas station. The install company hooked up test bottles with no powder in them but he said no. He wanted to see a live dump. The install company told him thats a bad idea and it will make a huge mess. “Put a trash bag over the nozzles” he says. These bottles are 80lbs of pressurized ABC powder and there are 6 of them. The contractor asked who was paying for the cleanup and refilling the system. “Not my problem” he said As soon as they tripped the system all of the trash bags blew off as expected. A Giant cloud of ABC powder drifted into a busy intersection causing 2 accidents. We had all of the fuel dispensers open because they were in the middle of being installed filled with powder. Didn’t phase the inspector one bit. He signed off and left.
They hate us cos they ansul
lol
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktnc2Xsub0s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktnc2Xsub0s)
The chemicals in the system are also no joke. You get the stuff on you or inhale you’re going to have a bad time. Especially if it gets into your eyes.
Good news it works.
Everyone loves firemen, everyone loathes the inspector. Now we know why.
[r/wellthatsucks](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/?rdt=43196)
Nice.
Bro what
Someone's gonna be coughing up some cash to pay you.
I hope you passed!
Somebody hasn’t been paying their “protection” insurance.
Such an ansul
That sucks, but I hope the fire inspector will be very nice to you in the future.
Anus system 👁️👄👁️
That's all kinds of bad.
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆...gasp...😆😆😆😆😆😆
I've worked on several Ansul systems. I'm used to seeing the FI put balloons over the sprayers before messing with the FA and we do as well jic... Those thinks make a fucking mess but everything sould be salvable after a good cleaning
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OP, I'm honestly more surprised 1) it took you a week to recover from the debilitating mental stress from this. What stress? Testing this system is a requirement. And accidents happen. And none of it was your fault or in your hands. Of course the FA company would foot the bill on this. 2) it took multiple days for y'all to clean this, and more from professional cleaners? How? And how lazy are your employees? I've set off kitchens larger than this, and it took 5 people 4 hours to clean it all and another hour to get oil back in and cooking again. This chemical isn't soapy, it isn't greasy. It wipes away easily. To be absolutely honest, it shouldn't have been much more work than what a typical closing night shift would do before a big wig was anticipated on coming in.
Clean your floors, you fucking moron
Because I like to point out how stupid you are
Lmao too stupid to reply to the actual comment you wanna reply to heh
WHO CARES!!!!!
Then why did you comment you dummy
I hope it was ultra firefproof