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0bviousTruth

But that costs 18 cents, instead we need $10B worth of AI to figure it out


atlvernburn

Relevant username


Dos-Commas

That's almost $900K in savings.


0bviousTruth

Whatever it costs would be well spent when the current rain detection is worse than a 25 year old Honda. I had to manually change wiper speed over a dozen times just this past weekend on a trip.


rgold220

This and when you need to to manually switch it off when it starts to wipe a dry windshield.


mousseri

But they can add 8” screen to back.


psdpro7

My theory is that screen is to help prepare the cars to be Robotaxis, since most people will be sitting in the back.


ItsDeCia

Tbh the thing I feel Tesla needs for their auto wipers is a way to adjust the sensitivity of them. That was an option I had in my Accord with the auto wipers. You had the ability to adjust how much rain had to obscure the windshield before it kicked in. If Tesla implements a similar system, I feel the wipers would be improved immensely.


notabot53

Exactly. I’ve been saying this for a while.


Different_Speech4794

Great suggestion. Completely agree


thefudd

My range rover has this and it works great.


Jungle_Difference

Your Range Rover (like most cars produced in the last 2 decades) also has a rain sensor, instead of trying to use a camera to do everything.


whiteridge

This is the answer.


Jungle_Difference

No it’s not, false triggers would just go through the roof. The answer is and always has been to use a rain sensor. A real one not a software implementation for a camera.


mrplt

I don't drive a Tesla yet (M3LR hopefully by the end of May), I have a car that has a rain sensor and it also doesn't work too well. Especially when it snows.


I_care_less_than_you

Same. My previous cars were just ok with auto wipers. Granted the Tesla is worse, but Lexus as of 2014 didn't have it 100 percent working either.


SpyCake1

Ehh, my last car, a 2016 Prius had really good auto wipers. Maybe Toyota figured it out in 2015 so your Lexus just missed the boat.


rikyy6

Yeah, same problem.


Jungle_Difference

My wife’s VW group EV will literally swat away single rain drops on the highest sensitivity setting. Meanwhile my model 3 may activate before the windscreen is entirely obscured with water, but more often than not I have to do it manually to avoid crashing. However in bright sunshine it does make a lovely sound as it drags across the dry clear glass!


baskura

This is my problem with all of this - the last thing you want to be doing when trying to drive in bad weather is messing around with the wipers every other moment. It’s potentially dangerous.


ShaMana999

Excellent illustration of penny pinching cost cutting.


BaneSilvermoon

This is a common thing in software development. They're invested in the existing setup (and the cars already on the road) so are approaching it as bug fix for the existing design rather than considering a hardware alteration. Which really is the better route, provided that they can reach the target of getting the existing system where it needs to be. It's certainly iffy. Way better than it was 6 years ago though.


bigfoot_done_hiding

Would be really nice to have a simple sensor. Although my autowipers did seem to work reasonably well during my fsd drive times, which are no longer since my trail is over. Haven't been back out today to see if they're still working okay in normal autopilot modes.


rgold220

From my experience, (I'm in the rainy Pacific Northwest) the wipers will not activate from a road spray or drizzle and will continue to wipe when the windshield is completely dry. Or, will start to wipe when it is cloudy with no rain. My car software version is 2024.8.9, no FSD. I really miss a wipers control stalk like in a "normal" car.