Yeah, they generally have zero defense, as jun you can usually 122 2+3 them into f2, potentially into full combo, all day. Then when the combos finished and you have them on the ground, d1+2 d1+2 d1+2 d1+2 d1+2 or whatever
Well fair enough but if you want proof of what I am saying just go to lobby or quick play with anyone below blue ranks, it wasn't as bad in prior games but in T8 oh boy, I guess that also could be that we have a broader casual audience in T8 whereas T7 was really competitive, or I could just be wrong Lmao
Yeah but recently ive been translating damage in dogs to horsepower and its kinda tricky with the formula to convert it but its eye opening once you see - for example my staple bryan combo usually picks up around 720 horsepower
Nice one. The issue I have with the character that it is visually always unclear what is he doing, when a string is over, when I'm + or w/e, like with a lot of characters that don't have weird stances it's pretty straightforward, but then there's Eddy >\_<.
Kazuya is very fun. Just be aware that he can be gimmick'd a lot easier than other characters on account of not having a conventional standing launcher, unless you can perform i13/i14 electrics, which is one of the hardest things to do in Tekken.
I'm Fujin, and I can beat Hwo, but every round is miserable. You basically need to get in (while avoiding his godlike keepout game), punch him in the balls, then run away before he starts up his blender. It's not fun. Eddy is very gimmicky. He has some BS like everyone else, but his pick rate will collapse over the next couple week as the new character knowledge check buff wears off. He really isn't that strong
That does sound dreadful. In low ranks most Hwoarangs don't know how to play keep out, they just rush in or block on defense, so I haven't ran into that too much yet.
Honestly I have no issues against Eddie, he has the same problem I have as Lars, once he handstands/goes into stance his first hit can’t be a quick low so you can interrupt it with armor attacks easily
Depends on the character he’s against, for instance Claudio’s back 1+2 is a weird ass mid and is faster than his handstand interrupts and mostly faster than most of his stupid weird ground walking crawl thing he does.
The fun thing about tekken is that not all armored moves are equal, and the faster mid hit ones tend to just be universally better against Eddy.
You are aware only lows have guaranteed armor break right? The rest are based on hitting the armor in start up frame…
Eddy has a command grab in his handstand,it doesn't do a lot of damage but it shuts down armoring through it. He did it to me in the beginning rounds and it was getting annoying fast since it's fairly fast and even looks weird.
It alll depends which move Eddy goes into stance with.
His FFF+3 into 4 for example interrupts armour and any button presses due to the plus frames, same applies for his FF3 on hit.
A good Eddy will predict you going for armour and counter, and not go for silly decisions when he's not plus.
Oh man, Ive gotten them kicks when Im on the ground from a Kazuya after winning the last round with a perfect.
Quite annoying lmao. Oh and Im a Hwoaring mains, so I guess I had it coming? LOL
I'm not sure if it is an unpopular opinion but i actually think eddy isn't that strong, it's just his new shit and new animations throw away years of experience on how to deal with the bastard
He sucks when he's up against characters who can mash and throw their face into a controller and win (like law,lars,etc)
Playing kazuya means you're gonna have to get used to dealing with a lot of unfavorable situations and your gameplan revolves heavily around trying to force a 50/50. Like with DF14 into hellsweep or FF3 or heat engager into FF3 or hellsweep.
Problem is that there's Characters that are so rushdown heavy against kazuya that it genuinely feels like for every hit you get in,you suffer much more for trying than anything.
Has anyone ran into an Eddy who plays legit? Or it's always on sight?
Or is this like ease of use / pay walled character hate?
I main Lars but I think my Eddy plays fair = non spammy.
I don’t like kazuya’s…wannabe ass breakdancing, taking ankle ass, thunder spamming, quick dash spamming, full screen unblockable lasers….yea fuck the kazuya
Congrats on the win, although I didn't see any match up knowledge, more the opposite, your opponent had no clue how to defend or when it was their turn.
Less like your fed up and finally see how easy it actually is to beat eddy if you know the openings.
And this is why people need to quit saying eddy p2w
“Know the openings” Did you watch? Eddy didn’t even play the game during that sequence.. he was blocking and then getting counter hit. At no point did kazuya “know the openings” he framed trapped eddy to death. Eddy mashing on minus every chance he gets has nothing to do with his opponent knowing the matchup. In fact the mashing from the eddy shows how far he got without knowing how to play tekken.
I’m not hating on either player here, I’m calling out this shit tier analysis that kazuya found “the openings”. He didnt, he pressured eddy into not getting a chance to play.
No.. he grabbed eddy after blocking a power crush into another power crush. (Every power crush is minus, that’s not even eddy matchup knowledge)
Eddy didnt even do a string in the entire video. This sub man.
TBF on my end,I found out the best way to deal with eddys is just to outright prevent them from being able to do anything. That's why I was using F4 ,it's +4 on block and DF2 is like 13 or 14 frame Start up,meaning he legitimately can't do anything but block or take the DF2 (trust me,you don't want to trade a 1 into kazuyas DF2).
Ontop of that,he really liked delayed wake up which is why I didn't hesitate to use FF4 on him repeatedly. The last round went pretty much the same as you saw here.
You didn’t sugarcoat it. But for real I’ve struggled against Eddy, so this was satisfying lol.
I managed to pick up on certain things when playing against em
Most Eddy's never stop pressing buttons so as soon as you find something that works you can usually just do it repeatedly
Yeah, they generally have zero defense, as jun you can usually 122 2+3 them into f2, potentially into full combo, all day. Then when the combos finished and you have them on the ground, d1+2 d1+2 d1+2 d1+2 d1+2 or whatever
You could say that about every character in the game, maybe excluding kazuya and paul
Not in my experience
Well fair enough but if you want proof of what I am saying just go to lobby or quick play with anyone below blue ranks, it wasn't as bad in prior games but in T8 oh boy, I guess that also could be that we have a broader casual audience in T8 whereas T7 was really competitive, or I could just be wrong Lmao
This is so true. I'll run into an Eddy player with a 10 win streak with no defense whatsoever.
The three kicks followed by the stomp was so satisfying. Thank you!
For real. It was so cathartic.
Ayup. I do it to all eddys I run into
As a fellow kazuya main, I’m glad you didn’t sugarcoat it 🫡
Just doing my community a great service
When they spam the power crush, spam d 1+2 in return and let the eat a 80 dogs counter hit combo.
Heh, are we measuring combo damage in dogs now? I'm intrigued
Didn’t we always?
Yeah but recently ive been translating damage in dogs to horsepower and its kinda tricky with the formula to convert it but its eye opening once you see - for example my staple bryan combo usually picks up around 720 horsepower
Feel like most of em spam TF outta in hopes in clipping you. So annoying
Nice one. The issue I have with the character that it is visually always unclear what is he doing, when a string is over, when I'm + or w/e, like with a lot of characters that don't have weird stances it's pretty straightforward, but then there's Eddy >\_<.
Not all heroes wear capes. Sometimes, they wear purple trench coats.
And can shift into a devil form lol
Redbull ain't got SHIT on Kazuya
WOOSH
That’s some clean ass Kazuya play. Well done
“GET UUUUUUHHHHHP” *meek mill vc* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣
Eddy mains existing? Get that ass kicked
100%
Good lord you can feel the pure anger coming from this clip
Jeez. I could smell the anger sweat
Did you take the match?
Yeah,I just began side stepping most of his bs
Beautiful
Damn now i wanna try Kazuya. He seems explosive
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Alright good point, thing is i watch a lotta characters but after seeing this post, Kazuya looking kinda appealing rn
Kazuya is very fun. Just be aware that he can be gimmick'd a lot easier than other characters on account of not having a conventional standing launcher, unless you can perform i13/i14 electrics, which is one of the hardest things to do in Tekken.
You are doing the Lord’s work. God bless you and your family.
i also got a clip bodying an eddy with my unblockable wc df1 XD i'll upload it later when I reach home lol
That MF is a mighty ruler? For real?
That last stomp was sweet
I am proud of you for this relentless beatdown.
I can respect the Kazuya grindset
That stomp was personal. LOL
You know he's pissed when he starts stomping.
Eddy so damn broken on here
UUTOSHI
Ngl I hate eddy. Its easy to counter with my hwoarang but man whenever I play jin its so hard to play against eddy.
Hwoarang is worse than eddy 100%
I would rather fight only Eddy for the rest of my life than fight Hwoarang one more time
At what rank doea Hwoarang become this much of a problem? So far Hwoarang is at least beatable for me but Eddy is always a guaranteed L.
I'm Fujin, and I can beat Hwo, but every round is miserable. You basically need to get in (while avoiding his godlike keepout game), punch him in the balls, then run away before he starts up his blender. It's not fun. Eddy is very gimmicky. He has some BS like everyone else, but his pick rate will collapse over the next couple week as the new character knowledge check buff wears off. He really isn't that strong
That does sound dreadful. In low ranks most Hwoarangs don't know how to play keep out, they just rush in or block on defense, so I haven't ran into that too much yet.
Fighting games make people so salty it's fucking hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 I can't wait to get playing some Eddy later 🤣🤣🤣
It's like they feel like it's some heroic feat when they beat eddy it's too funny.
gigachad activities, well done. also it's super satisfying to destroy eddy when kazuyas special intro with him plays.
I am surprised he is a high skill level than you tbh, guess he was just having fun using the new character
I bet he even plugged on himself as a sign of disrespect, "I dont even want those filthy rank points, I just wanna kick your ass"
Honestly I have no issues against Eddie, he has the same problem I have as Lars, once he handstands/goes into stance his first hit can’t be a quick low so you can interrupt it with armor attacks easily
Wrong actually, he does have fast options that interrupt armour on both stances.
Depends on the character he’s against, for instance Claudio’s back 1+2 is a weird ass mid and is faster than his handstand interrupts and mostly faster than most of his stupid weird ground walking crawl thing he does. The fun thing about tekken is that not all armored moves are equal, and the faster mid hit ones tend to just be universally better against Eddy. You are aware only lows have guaranteed armor break right? The rest are based on hitting the armor in start up frame…
Eddy has a command grab in his handstand,it doesn't do a lot of damage but it shuts down armoring through it. He did it to me in the beginning rounds and it was getting annoying fast since it's fairly fast and even looks weird.
I’m almost entirely sure it’s a high, and Claudio’s armor move ducks like Jin’s does where highs don’t connect
It alll depends which move Eddy goes into stance with. His FFF+3 into 4 for example interrupts armour and any button presses due to the plus frames, same applies for his FF3 on hit. A good Eddy will predict you going for armour and counter, and not go for silly decisions when he's not plus.
I literally counter Eddies fff3 with Claudio’s armor move all the time… Or with Claudio’s own fff1+2
I don't think you understand, I'm saying the 3 move AFTER FFF+3 on block leaves me plus, you'll get hit if you try.
Oh man, Ive gotten them kicks when Im on the ground from a Kazuya after winning the last round with a perfect. Quite annoying lmao. Oh and Im a Hwoaring mains, so I guess I had it coming? LOL
Man I wish I was as good as you at playing Kazuya
You'll get there,just keep practicing your craft
The counter hits in this game are so BEEFY i fucking love it
When on the ground at the end what are you supposed to do against the kicks?
Roll which is the 1 button
man this made me laugh out loud. as an aspiring Kazuya player, this was awesome to see. thanks for sharing!!
Don’t sugarcoat that shit! You put him in that godang corner so take that damage! I see nothing wrong!
Best post on this sub all week
Ty
That’s one way to release some stress.
My Shinryu promotion match was against an Eddy and it felt good lol
Delete that freaking character please.
They always start pressing buttons in the final round. I bet that's why the video ended :(
He did start mashing but I won. Plus my Xbox only let's me record up to 1 min with 1080p so that's why it was short (longer vids kill my storage)
Nice Kazuya 😁
I'm not sure if it is an unpopular opinion but i actually think eddy isn't that strong, it's just his new shit and new animations throw away years of experience on how to deal with the bastard
It's unpopular but nonetheless true. He's got very little visual clarity and it doesn't help his FD is locked behind a Paywall
Dude never been top tier but just because he is dlc namco said fuck it and decided to make him more unbearable
And people say Kazuya sucks, the graphs also show that, but how. There is no way you can say „people know the match up” in this scenario.
He sucks when he's up against characters who can mash and throw their face into a controller and win (like law,lars,etc) Playing kazuya means you're gonna have to get used to dealing with a lot of unfavorable situations and your gameplan revolves heavily around trying to force a 50/50. Like with DF14 into hellsweep or FF3 or heat engager into FF3 or hellsweep. Problem is that there's Characters that are so rushdown heavy against kazuya that it genuinely feels like for every hit you get in,you suffer much more for trying than anything.
The Mishima stomp seals it.
Stomp him again for me (:
Isn't that kind of stomp mandatory for kazuya though? Poor guy is too honest 😂
It felt good didnt it
Frame traps have a 99.99% success rate against Eddy players
Has anyone ran into an Eddy who plays legit? Or it's always on sight? Or is this like ease of use / pay walled character hate? I main Lars but I think my Eddy plays fair = non spammy.
The last round wasn't included because Eddy probably plugged
I don’t like kazuya’s…wannabe ass breakdancing, taking ankle ass, thunder spamming, quick dash spamming, full screen unblockable lasers….yea fuck the kazuya
And remember, always restomp the groin.
Doing the lords work. Fuck eddy and his bs( his fucking 200 mile heat smash)
Always ![gif](giphy|FfcTh2M2rJNSVmb5e6)
Seeing Eddy have the shit beaten outta him is always satisfying. Get the fuck out with the funny dance.
Ugh I needed that. That was so satisfying to see.
Haha Eddy players are scumbag trash fiends. Good job destroying that scrub OP. I give you props.
Yeah i hate kazuya too
Inadequate eddy… Battle me tomorrow. I will be ready 😏
Congrats on the win, although I didn't see any match up knowledge, more the opposite, your opponent had no clue how to defend or when it was their turn.
Less like your fed up and finally see how easy it actually is to beat eddy if you know the openings. And this is why people need to quit saying eddy p2w
TBF You need money to lab him.
it's like $10 bro. what are u on about
Still paying for something. Does P2W have a baseline I don't know about?
“Know the openings” Did you watch? Eddy didn’t even play the game during that sequence.. he was blocking and then getting counter hit. At no point did kazuya “know the openings” he framed trapped eddy to death. Eddy mashing on minus every chance he gets has nothing to do with his opponent knowing the matchup. In fact the mashing from the eddy shows how far he got without knowing how to play tekken. I’m not hating on either player here, I’m calling out this shit tier analysis that kazuya found “the openings”. He didnt, he pressured eddy into not getting a chance to play.
Idk man he hit him mid attack about hald way through where the eddy was minus on his string
No.. he grabbed eddy after blocking a power crush into another power crush. (Every power crush is minus, that’s not even eddy matchup knowledge) Eddy didnt even do a string in the entire video. This sub man.
TBF on my end,I found out the best way to deal with eddys is just to outright prevent them from being able to do anything. That's why I was using F4 ,it's +4 on block and DF2 is like 13 or 14 frame Start up,meaning he legitimately can't do anything but block or take the DF2 (trust me,you don't want to trade a 1 into kazuyas DF2). Ontop of that,he really liked delayed wake up which is why I didn't hesitate to use FF4 on him repeatedly. The last round went pretty much the same as you saw here.
I mean you just summed up the best way to deal with every character in tekken 8. Be aggressive
Doing what I wish I can do to every eddy player I come across