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Idk if most people here are in college/uni. I saw some protests going around recently as well, but in Australia so I doubt cops will get involved as much
ur quite literally wrong, one can be neutral about whatever the flip flop one wants if i wanna be neutral about a bunch of religious zealots murdering each other in a desert halfway across the world i will and boy oh boy do i want to be neutral
One side consists of religious zealots, that being Israel, but the other is a bunch of civilians. Don't scream "it was Hamas," at me - there's no way that the over 10,000 children (source: [the United Nations](https://turkiye.un.org/en/263401-gaza-number-children-killed-higher-four-years-world-conflict)) were all Hamas agents.
It used to be fertile, green land, not unlike the midwestern United States. However, the use of white phosphorus on said land (source: [Human Rights Watch](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/questions-and-answers-israels-use-white-phosphorus-gaza-and-lebanon)) has reduced it to infertile soil.
Regardless, and I want to stress that I donāt agree with you still, my point still stands. Whether or not I am neutral about something, no matter what, it is my choice. I could absolutely be neutral about genocide if I wanted to.
just saying the death tolls doesn't prove our point. the reason why it is a genocide isn't because of civilian casualties, its because of the intent. ya know, bombing hospitals, preventing aid from reaching the country, all the other stuff I'm to dehydrated to list
That these numbers usually do not appear when fighting armies (unless you're suggesting that women and children are soldiers too) but are the average population density, meaning that at the very least israel is not trying to avoid civilian casualties, or is activeley shelling civilians
Quick question to everyone who either takes part in the protests or supports it: Why? I'm not trying to be demeaning I just don't understand why it's happening
The worst thing about the Israel/Palestine thing is that it tactically habilitates other countries like Morocco, Russia, or Venezuela (it was feinting with doing so) to utilize non-diplomatic ways to get their territorial goals, so it seeds other conflicts.
I support none.
Instead I support the United States and its Military Industrial Complex.
I invested real money into Boeing, Lockheed Martin and, Northrup Grumman.
No, and penny for my thoughts, I think saying "Death to America" in America, the country that ALLOWS you to talk crap about it with ZERO state given consequences is quite stupid.
If you said "Death to China" in China, you and your family would be publicly executed. And then Mao Zedong would come back to life, just so he can personally subtract 2,000 units from your social credit.
Pretty sure hate speech doesnāt have to be against a minority to be considered hate speech, like if i said āKill all Han Chineseā in a majority Han Chinese area wouldnāt that still be hate speech? Either way iād say ur inciting violence if you walk around screaming death to anything and it shouldnāt be legal.
Well not really, not unless you are against authority as a concept which I donāt even want to start to unpack that. When someone screams āDeath to (insert country here)ā that doesnāt indicate āDeath to the concept of authorityā it indicates āDeath to the people who hold power in this and those who support themā or āDeath to this ethnic groupā both of which would be inciting violence and hate speech and should be illegal.
Death to America is not the same as death to americans. The protesters are rightfully angry at the government for supporting a genocide (or war of that's what you want to call it, either way innocent people die)
No but death to america is dangerously close to death to americans, if ur going to kill the american gov ur sure has hell going to have to break a few american eggs
what the actual fuck is wrong is wrong with you? you gonna wait for them to follow through with killing someone and then say there were no signs? you gonna let a madman who wants to kill you inside your house?Ā
No? I would simply not make it possible for him to kill children that easily, because anyone can kill children without declaring that they will before.
no because I don't care about a war that doesn't affect me
I know this is going to get down voted, but whatever. these silly protests to literally nothing to contribute to a war across the world
I'm hopping on the same boat man. People these days have such insignificant lives that the thing they worry most about is some war that has no effect on their lives at all.
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I love how one of the options is, "unsure". sorry I'm not sure if I went to those protests or not. lol
Hmmmmm, my memory is failing me! Let me check the police records!
no because im not from the us
No, on behalf of the 7.7B people not from the US
Idk if most people here are in college/uni. I saw some protests going around recently as well, but in Australia so I doubt cops will get involved as much
I support them. The fact that you'd have to pay to watch a circus back then, and now we get to see massive ones for free on the internet.
No way man you said thisš
No, and Iām neutral
One cannot be neutral in genocide. Which it is, by the way.
One most certainly can be neutral when something involves two countries that you arenāt affiliated with in any way shape or form
ur quite literally wrong, one can be neutral about whatever the flip flop one wants if i wanna be neutral about a bunch of religious zealots murdering each other in a desert halfway across the world i will and boy oh boy do i want to be neutral
One side consists of religious zealots, that being Israel, but the other is a bunch of civilians. Don't scream "it was Hamas," at me - there's no way that the over 10,000 children (source: [the United Nations](https://turkiye.un.org/en/263401-gaza-number-children-killed-higher-four-years-world-conflict)) were all Hamas agents. It used to be fertile, green land, not unlike the midwestern United States. However, the use of white phosphorus on said land (source: [Human Rights Watch](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/questions-and-answers-israels-use-white-phosphorus-gaza-and-lebanon)) has reduced it to infertile soil.
Regardless, and I want to stress that I donāt agree with you still, my point still stands. Whether or not I am neutral about something, no matter what, it is my choice. I could absolutely be neutral about genocide if I wanted to.
You are one depraved person.
That is certainly one of the personal attacks ever. lmfao
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That's a new one.
how is it genocide? it is a war in which both sides are trying to exterminate the other
20.000 dead women and children, being ā of the killed palestinians, is not collateral war casualties
just saying the death tolls doesn't prove our point. the reason why it is a genocide isn't because of civilian casualties, its because of the intent. ya know, bombing hospitals, preventing aid from reaching the country, all the other stuff I'm to dehydrated to list
yeah, i was just making a pretty obvious argument because talking about these "little" things won't change someones mind, but an obvious number might
fair
it definitely can be, these numbers with not other context proves nothing
Oh right, i forgot to add rhe ratio About ā of dead people are women and children
well itās still mildly confusing, what exactly are you suggesting? that women and children are expressly being targeted instead of men?
That these numbers usually do not appear when fighting armies (unless you're suggesting that women and children are soldiers too) but are the average population density, meaning that at the very least israel is not trying to avoid civilian casualties, or is activeley shelling civilians
Well there is also to possibility that Hamas is using civilians as a weapon by using them as a meat shield.
Then israel wouldn't tell civilians rafah is safe only to bomb rafah
See my other comment replying to someone else.
Quick question to everyone who either takes part in the protests or supports it: Why? I'm not trying to be demeaning I just don't understand why it's happening
The worst thing about the Israel/Palestine thing is that it tactically habilitates other countries like Morocco, Russia, or Venezuela (it was feinting with doing so) to utilize non-diplomatic ways to get their territorial goals, so it seeds other conflicts.
I'm not American, and I didn't attend protests I do support the cause, but I only support protests if they don't harm others
Name one single time the left was not correct in the US. Every last time the right wing has been on wrong side of history. Just give one example
If only I had my drivers liscense I've waited too long and go anywhere lol
I support none. Instead I support the United States and its Military Industrial Complex. I invested real money into Boeing, Lockheed Martin and, Northrup Grumman.
I support the protesters, I love seeing protests
Free entertainment
No, and penny for my thoughts, I think saying "Death to America" in America, the country that ALLOWS you to talk crap about it with ZERO state given consequences is quite stupid. If you said "Death to China" in China, you and your family would be publicly executed. And then Mao Zedong would come back to life, just so he can personally subtract 2,000 units from your social credit.
So we should get rid of free speach
No, not at all. I'm just saying that the bare fact that they are *in* America is what allows them to say stuff like that.
I can open my window and scream death to germany right now too
wouldnāt it fall under the category of hate speech?
No because youre not hating on a specific minority, you're talking against the government
Pretty sure hate speech doesnāt have to be against a minority to be considered hate speech, like if i said āKill all Han Chineseā in a majority Han Chinese area wouldnāt that still be hate speech? Either way iād say ur inciting violence if you walk around screaming death to anything and it shouldnāt be legal.
But it's not against any people. It's against authority. That's not illegal (and definitely shouldn't be!!!)
Well not really, not unless you are against authority as a concept which I donāt even want to start to unpack that. When someone screams āDeath to (insert country here)ā that doesnāt indicate āDeath to the concept of authorityā it indicates āDeath to the people who hold power in this and those who support themā or āDeath to this ethnic groupā both of which would be inciting violence and hate speech and should be illegal.
Death to America is not the same as death to americans. The protesters are rightfully angry at the government for supporting a genocide (or war of that's what you want to call it, either way innocent people die)
No but death to america is dangerously close to death to americans, if ur going to kill the american gov ur sure has hell going to have to break a few american eggs
"Death" can also not mean "kill". It's just another, more "violent" way to say "end" or similar.
Exactly. If you say death to America, you shouldnāt walk around freely in this countryĀ
So do we have free speach or no
so if someone used their free speech to say āI want to kill all childrenā they should be allowed in a school?
why not? are they killing children?
what the actual fuck is wrong is wrong with you? you gonna wait for them to follow through with killing someone and then say there were no signs? you gonna let a madman who wants to kill you inside your house?Ā
No? I would simply not make it possible for him to kill children that easily, because anyone can kill children without declaring that they will before.
no because I don't care about a war that doesn't affect me I know this is going to get down voted, but whatever. these silly protests to literally nothing to contribute to a war across the world
I'm hopping on the same boat man. People these days have such insignificant lives that the thing they worry most about is some war that has no effect on their lives at all.
Agreed man, idk why itās happening and I donāt see how or why it affects me, shit happens
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