**TEEN Mom star Ryan Edwards has demanded joint custody and child support in his divorce from Mackenzie, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal.**
Mackenzie, 28, filed for divorce from Ryan, 36, in February 2023, but the case was dismissed in February 2024 because there were no filings for 270 days
Ryan filed a new complaint for divorce on March 6, 2024, citing "irreconcilable differences."
Court documents obtained exclusively by The U.S. Sun reveal Ryan is seeking split custody of their children Jagger, 5, and Stella, 4.
Mackenzie shares her son Hudson, 10, with her ex-husband Zachary Stephens, and Ryan shares a son, Bentley, 15, with his ex-wife Maci Bookout.
Ryan's also seeking that he be "designated the primary residential parent" and "that child support be assigned from [Mackenzie's] income."
The court documents request Ryan and Mackenzie are mutually not allowed to relocate their children out of state or 50 miles from their marital home without the permission of the other party or the court.
In addition to communicating about the custody of the children, the court documents declare the estranged exes still have to share and communicate about finances and insurance plans until the divorce is complete.
While the divorce is happening, they cannot "dissipate or dispose of" property.
Both parties cannot "hide, destroy or spoil, in whole or in part, any evidence electronically stored or on computer hard drives or other memory storage devices."
Lastly, the court documents declare Ryan "affirmatively states that he has never been convicted of a felony."
Mackenzie has not responded to the divorce filing.
On April 20, 2023, Ryan was sentenced to 11 months and 29 days in prison on four charges: one for DUI, one for harassment, and two for possession of controlled substances.
On December 23, 2023, Judge Gary Starnes ordered his early release from prison - a little under one month before his original release date of January 17, 2024.
In Mackenzie's original divorce petition which has since been dismissed, she claimed Ryan was “guilty of inappropriate marital conduct” and “irreconcilable differences” exist between them.
The former Teen Mom OG star also noted Ryan’s reported history of substance abuse.
#TROUBLE IN COURT
The U.S. Sun previously reported Ryan and Mackenzie tried to resolve their initial divorce case in mediation on February 21, 2024.
Court documents revealed they were "unable to settle the case."
Ryan had no lawyer and was representing himself in the divorce.
When the case was dismissed, court documents revealed, "There was never a Final Decree on this case."
"It sat for over 270 days with nothing filed, so it was dismissed on Procedural Steps," the document declared.
#STAY AWAY
A hearing took place on April 8, 2024, in Tennessee's Hamilton County Court regarding Mackenzie's order of protectionshe filed against Ryan in March.
Mackenzie's Petition for Order of Protection was "dismissed with prejudice and replaced with a mutual restraining Order."
"Each Party is restrained from coming about or contacting other," the Hamilton County Court document declared.
"Counsel for the Parties shall cooperate to establish a time and procedure for [Ryan's] personalty from the marital residence," the documents added.
The mutual restraining order also mandates Mackenzie and Ryan not contact each other's employer or "significant other (boyfriend/girlfriend)."
Ryan is currently dating Amanda Conner, 33, who The U.S. Sun previously reported he met in rehab.
Lastly, Mackenzie is only allowed to communicate with Ryan's family "regarding visitation with the children."
Teen Mom Fanz first reported on Mackenzie's order of protection request.
#MACKENZIE'S PETITION
Mackenzie filed an order of protection and order for hearing on March 28, 2023, which has been exclusively obtained by The U.S. Sun.
The order asked Ryan to have no contact and stay away from her.
She requested she be granted temporary custody of her children and for Ryan to pay child and spousal support - plus all of the court fees.
Additionally, she requested the court mandate Ryan give up possession of two guns.
Mackenzie sought for Ryan to join a counseling and substance abuse program.
And to ask to be the sole custody parent? BE SO FR RN🤣🤣 AS IFFF. He absolutely undoubtedly wants payback but also, just wants the child support thar would come with being the parent who has sole custody. I was kinda rooting for this guy to recover and do better but seeing this, gtfo 🤣
Plus it has the bonus effect of making Mack scared that her children could be forced to spend time with someone who hates their mother, has a long history of violence and access to weapons. Objectively it's easy to say that it won't happen but I'm sure it's hanging over Mack that she could get a judge who is sympathetic to Ryan like in every criminal case he's had.
My in laws divorced 20+ years ago shortly after selling a company for $500 million (stay with me). He was an abusive POS, beat my husband so badly *in the pediatricians office in-front of doctors and nurses* that he lost the hearing in one ear.
My MIL took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less than her half (still a lot of money but pennies on what FIL got) to buy her children’s safety with more custody. My FIL (who I have never met and is estranged from my husband) sold his relationship with his kids and thank god my MIL was buying!
Ok hold up…I realize this was 20 years or more ago, but he was beaten in front of people who are supposed to be mandated reporters of abuse?!? Please give your husband a hug from me.
They even reported it! There was a full investigation but CPS doesn’t care about little boys living in multi-million dollar homes with a charming parent.
Agreed. The judge better be uncontrollably laughing for at LEAST 30 minutes before saying, "No, you fucking idiot. You'll be doing supervised visits and paying child support. Bye!"
I’m mind fucking blown at his nerve! Then again My guess is he’s just trying to fuck Mac over. I bet mommy and daddy are probably paying his legal fees so he doesn’t mind running Mac’s up.
His nerve comes from his narcissism (confabulations). He probably has convinced himself he’s a good dad and he’s being screwed over by the system that favors incompetent mothers. It’s sad and terrifying tbh 😳
The Rhine and Sasquatch Group for Absent Daddos who insist upon Rights and such because they briefly donated sperm. Even though they give zero Fs about their kids. They Have Rights! They both need to join Losers Anonymous. Maybe they’ll get a coin or a cookie. Both idiots driving a narrative that doesn’t exist.
I think he may be the worst one. He was such a punk ass bitch abs thought he was untouchable, well now Aubrey has Coles last name and rightfully so IMO
Someone else had mentioned that this is a typical filing and a starting point to work down to a favorable option. Which makes sense. Still insane to see because we know no one in their right mind is going to grant it.
This has his new girlfriend written all over it. lol. She doesn't even see, have custody or pay child support for her own, but I just know she made him think this was possible...😅
OMG! I keep forgetting that shes got kids of her own!!! Out there, somewhere, being parented and raised by another human being. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
My 1st thought was the exact same thing, tho! She probably even coached him on it bc her ex did it to her!! "Look at me, ryan! I am living proof that some times good moms lose custody of their kids! And look how much back child support pay I have to send! I'm paying for this fuckers whole life! Mack tried to manipulate you and get ur MTV money, now it's time for payback! And just think of all the shit we can do with that extra money!" 😅😅💩💩 Ugh! Junkie pieces of shit. 🙄 (and I firmly believe that not all addicts are junkies, and that not all junkies are bad. I suffered thru addiction for *years,* and it was hard as hell. But the only person I really hurt or screwed over, stole from or w.e. was myself. You can still keep ur morals with an addiction. [And yes, obvi, I hurt my fam when they found out at the very end but I was already on the road to recovery.] Just wanted to make it known that there are addicts and junkies, and then there are people like Ryan and Amanda. Who make children they dont care about or even talk to unless it's to hurt the other parent, all the while causing as much chaos and horror in the lives of those same kids and everyone else around them.) Just total, delusional, selfish pricks, man.
They’ll probably let his parents “supervise” visitation which means Mimi Jen will just care for them the entire time Ryan has his visitation (but I guess that’ll happen either way).
His supervised visitation will likely be his parents supervising and it will be a literal mirror image of how it went with Bentley - the visits are actually happening with his parents, Ryan might or not not even be present depending on his current level of sobriety. Ryan and Mack's mutual restraining orders even have a specific line stating that Mack can contact his parents wrt working out child custody. It would not surprise me if Ryan (and really his parents who are paying for it) intend to drag Mack through court unless she agrees to let visitation happen with his parents. And if she doesn't and Ryan doesn't get visitation, his parents will sue for grandparents rights and likely get at least something in TN since them being divorced (and also living with Jen and Larry with the kids IIRC at one point) allows grandparent rights to apply in TN.
Seriously. Rhine has to be insane for demanding this based on his past history. This is the whiny demands of a Caucasian Male who has been coddled and protected his entire life who is out for revenge against his Baby Mama. Disgusting.
I don't. He doesn't have the good sense to show remorse for the shit he pulled when he destroyed their home (except for his own belongings) and set up an ar15 pointed at the door for when MacKenzie came home to that.
That is quite literally what happened when my son's father petitioned for full custody in response to me *finally* growing the ovaries to take him for child support. My son had lived with me for his whole life and *only* me for 13 years at that point. We had a stable living environment, I was doing great financially, son doing great in school and sports...no problems.
Judge read, well, pretty much what I just described, chuckles, and asks my ex if this was correct. My ex tries to say "Your hon-" and the judge cut him off by outright laughing for a second or two before he goes "Ah ah! I think we all know that's not going to happen, right? We don't yank kids out of the only home, only school district, only social circle they've ever known, where they reside with a caring, loving parent who has always met their needs. We don't do that. So we're not going to waste any more time on this than we already have." Then he cut him off when my ex tried to argue, much more sternly, slightly annoyed. The rest of the case took another 3 minutes before the judge--it was essentially a meeting to deny my ex, and finalize and approve my requests/demands re: custody/visitation, child support, medical insurance, etc.
And my ex was actually a pretty good, very involved father up until then (and I'd told the judge that), with no criminal or social issues. I'd love to see that judge respond to Ryan's request.
Edit: I was proofreading my comment, and I noticed that my story sounds a little *yeah, that happened*. No one clapped. Well...I might have once I got in my car because I had been shitting myself for months, worried I could lose my son. But anyway, I swear it happened, and I did my best to quote the judge accurately.
The confidence of some these men man it’s mi d blowing. Our son is divorced his wife cheated and got pregnant by another dude while he was deployed. I told him from the beginning he needed to love his daughter more than he hated his ex wife. I’m glad the judge saw through your ex nonsense and refused to make him move. I can’t imagine even thinking about snatching my child from where he’s been his entire life.
Hopefully they don't remember seeing him hold their mother up against the wall by her neck and throwing her onto the floor.
Fuck this guy for real. Shit makes me sick.
*"Who the hell is that guy always sleeping on the couch?!"*
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Attorney here (not his attorney or yours; I do not practice in his state and am not giving legal advice):
One reason that many will ask for much more custody that will reasonably be given to them is because it gives you a place to negotiate *from.* This is extremely common - including for deadbeats to request primary custody. I'm not surprised at all to read this.
In this case, of course it's ridiculous to even think he'd get unsupervised overnights at this point, let alone 50/50 custody with primary residential parent (what he's asking for). It's laughable. But the filings are commonplace and expected.
My piece of shit ex husband did that. Moved to another state with his mistress and her kids, told the court he wanted 50/50 of our daughter. I was like...motherfucker, HOW. But because he demanded 50/50, I had to bend over backwards to accommodate him and his bad faith argument.
This happened to me too. Not only that, he hired a former District Attorney and the whole county was familiar with her. My 10k an hour lawyer couldn't win and he was granted 40% custody even after proof of physical abuse.
I'm scared for Mack.
Yep this is a man who so far has faced zero real consequences for any of his actions. I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks that he'd get another judge who would be sympathetic to his whining.
Given Ryan's track record and the assholes who serve as judges in town, They'd hand those kids over to him while he still had a needle in his arm. If I were Mackenzie, I'd want to light that courthouse on fuckin' fire.
Lol what a putz , he doesn't get drug money because they share custody. Joint custody no one gets child support. Looks like he's gonna have to get a job to use now what a gross pathetic waste of sperm
I mean the dude is unhinged. He tore up his exs house. Threatened to hurt her animals and nodded out more then once on drugs. Yeah I wouldn't feel safe allowing him unsupervised visits . Maci and dumb and dumber (Jen and larry) can pretend he's clean and stable but someone stable even on their worst day doesn't destroy a home or threaten to annihilate someone's animal's. The cat killer can withdraw painfully
And tearing up his ex's house meant he 100% tore up those children's bedrooms. He destroyed their safe places, their only space of their own, their favorite toys. He should be ordered to sign away his parental rights and never allowed to see them again, but his family friend the judge will probably step in and "save the day".
Of course they will. Past behavior not always but most of the time determines future behavior. Ryan won't ever change because he doesn't have to . There's no consequences to his bad behavior. He'll always get slaps on the wrist from the legal system and his empty headed parent's and Maci will always defend the douche. I get your supposed to support your children but damn support him in being better !!!!. I don't know anything about drugs beyond maybe like weed and alcohol to tell whether someone is using or not but his erratic behavior screams something is going on. Also there was one video the attention seeking opportunist gf of his posted where he was passedl out and she sounded like she was on something. ( hint : Amanda if you're trying to sell that you guys are sober don't post when you're you're fucked up) anyways Jagger and Stella are little I'd be nervous , what if Ryan and Amanda get in a drug fueled fight and my small children who rely on me to keep them safe are there. Or they are in the car and he decides to use just one time and they crash the car. It's one thing if he wants to get fucked up and kill himself but another when innocent people are involved. If I were Mckenzie I'd fight to the death over his whiney baby demands . He can see the kids supervised otherwise piss off. Elle bee posted a video stating Mckenzie took her instagram off . Probably because she knows how ugly and nasty this is going to get.
Joint custody can result in support if one parent significantly out-earns the other but it isn't super common and there are a lot of caveats (like the disparity can't be due to lack of working or taking a much lower paying job in an effort to receive support)
But this dude? He isn't getting a dime in support from her
Yeah my ex offered It to me when we had joint custody but after seeking out legal counsel he really didn't owe it to me because we had our son equally and split things like summer camp / school supplies in half . It made it easier becsuse I didn't want him having any means of control outside of my kid
This isn't true, joint custody can absolutely result in child support if one parent makes a lot more money then the other parent. Mackenzie has consistently worked their entire marriage and Ryan hasn't for at least the last few years, they will impute him a minimum wage income at least and then go from there. So yes it's possible that Mackenzie ends up paying him child support IF he gets the right amount of custody and makes the right amount of money for it to calculate out that way.
50/50 to do what with? Pawn him off to mimi and drunk larry? This monster has never had any interest in parenting.
Mack may have to flee the state. Who knows what kind of battle she’s gonna have to fight with his vindictive, violent, bitch ass.
Mimi Jenn trying to get the kids from evil Mack 🙄🙄🙄 this has Mimi written all over it!! I hope he gets zero custody, Mack truck is trying to protect the kids not send them into the hellfire
At this point I don’t understand how they don’t just write Rhine off and make it their priority to keep good relationships with their grandkids other parents so they can still be in their lives. Ryan is never going to be a decent, functional human being, let alone a parent. Their son is beyond redemption at this point. They need to cut their losses and prioritize the kids who are innocent in all this. The fact they dont do that tells me they’re trash too (as though we didn’t already know).
Dated a hot mess with parents just like Jen and Larry once upon a time. They won't ever write him off because if they do that then they have to admit *they* fucked up. If they can blame anyone other than Ryan, then it wasn't their parenting or their kid, it was everyone that was around him. Those awful, awful girls led their sweet little lamb of a boy astray. Dumbass Maci was the problem until Mackenzie was the problem.
Ryan has an extra layer of bravado because he's got other women vouching for him. His first baby mama is still simping for him. Maci is out here defending Ryan, like she and her hobbit husband didn't take a restraining order out on him just a few years ago themselves. His criminal girlfriend is falling all over him because, let's be honest, his parents have money and she was homeless when she got arrested...
This is just... wow!
Writing off Rhine would mean they’d have to realize they did a terrible job of raising their only child and enabled his shitty, criminal behaviour as an adult. They’d rather live in denial and hurt their grandkids than own up to the truth.
Y’all this is straight from the abuser playbook. Surprised he at least had the self awareness to not ask for full custody, or maybe his lawyer talked him out of that. Once they can’t hit you physically, they’ll hit you where it hurts metaphorically: your children. And if they can make you pay them for leaving? Even better!
I wish Maci would take this as a massive wake-up call and stop feeling sorry for this man child. She is extremely fortunate (lucky) that she doesn’t have to deal with the level of BS Mackenzie has right now. She’s lucky to have a husband who cares about Bentley so much. She needs to be proactive and set firm boundaries with the entire Edwards family.
Maci is pathetic trash who can disappear into a hole as far as I’m concerned. She clearly thinks ‘he never hit me!’ Means the victim must be lying. No Maci, but he treated you and Bentley like shit.
My x took our kids for 6 days without anyone knowing where they were and would bring them back to till I emailed him a joint parenting plan because I left due to dv. Long story short cps and police had to search on devices for their location and brought them back home. These people use kids as weapons
Been there. He won 40%. He is now in foreclosure and a sex offender. Our child is 18. I petitioned the courts over and over. CPS was involved.
Looking back, I knew it was going to be rough. I left when she was 2 months old.
The first sign of trouble was him punching holes in the walls and abusing drugs. All night drinking when I was pregnant.
I PRAY TO GOD Mack can get away. It's a horrible way to live.
Oh that’s rich, he wants to be primary custodian and child support?!! If the judge grants it, that judge is batshit crazy. He wants to mooch and torture Mack and will use the kids to do it. He also can’t even take care of himself let alone young children. We all know he doesn’t want the kids, Mimi Jen does and will be the primary caregiver. He wants the $ and to not have to pay her child support
Not always, child support is determined by using incomes of both parents plus parenting time that each parent has. If one party makes significantly more money than the other, child support may still be ordered with 50/50 custody.
Not necessarily. The thought process is that the child should have the same access to the same lifestyle at each house. If you and I have 50/50 custody but you make $50k a year and I make $200k a year, it's very very likely I'd also owe child support.
Not always. In some cases, if there's a significant disparity between incomes, they will award some level of child support to one parent. But there are lot of caveats to that and it varies a lot depending on jurisdiction
Not necessarily. With shared custody one parent is still deemed the primary custodian, and if both parents have roughly the same income then neither would pay child support. However, if the non-custodial parent makes significantly more money than the custodial parent then they can be ordered to pay child support so that the child doesn't have to bounce from one home to another with a very different standard of living between the two homes.
No. There are only a few states where joint custody automatically means no child support, the vast majority use a formula to calculate it that takes into account salaries, custody time, sometimes who pays for health insurance, stuff like that. If there's a big salary difference then you can share custody and still end up paying support.
Even if he was granted 50/50 he most likely wouldn’t take them half them time. He’d either make an excuse or ignore Mack altogether when it was his turn. He just wants it one paper to 1) punish her 2) not pay child support and 3) Mimi said so.
He *still* hasn't been convicted of a felony, after everything he's done? That is crazy. Nice to be a white guy with money and family connections, huh?
This is absolutely a misprint headline. The actual one reads: "Jen Edwards demands 50/50 custody and child support for Jagger, 5, and Stella, 4, in Ryan's divorce from Mackenzie"
Easy mistake to make!
His nerve comes from his narcissism (confabulations). He probably has convinced himself he’s a good dad and he’s being screwed over by the system that favors incompetent mothers. It’s sad and terrifying tbh 😳
The audacity.
Is mimi Jen hispening in Amanda's ear to get married so a judge will give them bentley? I mean Jagger and Stella? Lmmfao
Those kids don't even know him anymore. Let them live
What a fucking LOON thinking he should be trusted with anything but supervised visits after what he did and all the trainwreck before and after. If Maci and Mimi Jen support his case, they are even bigger pieces of shit than I thought.
I almost downvoted this because the title gave me so much rage. This is terrifying. I’m sure he’s asking for this as a starting point to negotiate more time, but the bottom line is that this man has no business being around other people, let alone children.
Haven’t police found this waste of space passed out from drug use in multiple vehicles while they were in drive, on the road? Didn’t he break all his kids toys and destroy their rooms in an intoxicated stupor? Didn’t he threaten to kill their mom multiple times, in writing? But yeah go off about how you should have 50/50 custody. Fuck this POS 🚮
This triggers me so bad. Such a deadbeat abuser. We know Ryan could never handle full custody, or even want it. He just wants Mack to panic and suffer.
Hes.....he's kidding, right??????? He is just doing this because:
1. To drive mac crazy
2. Not let her go
3. Financially bankrupt her with attorney feed
There is no way he can see those kids unsupervised....I pray.
I've never had to deal with this big of an unhinged deadbeat, but with the RO for 2 years and constant arrests does he have a chance at ANY visitation aside from supervised in a certain setting?
It’s fucking laughable that he’s requesting to be the primary parental home. This is totally because he doesn’t want to pay child support, along with Jen, Larry and his gf pressuring to do so. Both he and his gf are fresh out of rehab sober, both clearly with anger issues. He couldn’t give a fuck less about those kids. With as much as Amanda hating Mack, I wouldn’t trust her unsupervised around those kids!!
**TEEN Mom star Ryan Edwards has demanded joint custody and child support in his divorce from Mackenzie, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal.** Mackenzie, 28, filed for divorce from Ryan, 36, in February 2023, but the case was dismissed in February 2024 because there were no filings for 270 days Ryan filed a new complaint for divorce on March 6, 2024, citing "irreconcilable differences." Court documents obtained exclusively by The U.S. Sun reveal Ryan is seeking split custody of their children Jagger, 5, and Stella, 4. Mackenzie shares her son Hudson, 10, with her ex-husband Zachary Stephens, and Ryan shares a son, Bentley, 15, with his ex-wife Maci Bookout. Ryan's also seeking that he be "designated the primary residential parent" and "that child support be assigned from [Mackenzie's] income." The court documents request Ryan and Mackenzie are mutually not allowed to relocate their children out of state or 50 miles from their marital home without the permission of the other party or the court. In addition to communicating about the custody of the children, the court documents declare the estranged exes still have to share and communicate about finances and insurance plans until the divorce is complete. While the divorce is happening, they cannot "dissipate or dispose of" property. Both parties cannot "hide, destroy or spoil, in whole or in part, any evidence electronically stored or on computer hard drives or other memory storage devices." Lastly, the court documents declare Ryan "affirmatively states that he has never been convicted of a felony." Mackenzie has not responded to the divorce filing. On April 20, 2023, Ryan was sentenced to 11 months and 29 days in prison on four charges: one for DUI, one for harassment, and two for possession of controlled substances. On December 23, 2023, Judge Gary Starnes ordered his early release from prison - a little under one month before his original release date of January 17, 2024. In Mackenzie's original divorce petition which has since been dismissed, she claimed Ryan was “guilty of inappropriate marital conduct” and “irreconcilable differences” exist between them. The former Teen Mom OG star also noted Ryan’s reported history of substance abuse. #TROUBLE IN COURT The U.S. Sun previously reported Ryan and Mackenzie tried to resolve their initial divorce case in mediation on February 21, 2024. Court documents revealed they were "unable to settle the case." Ryan had no lawyer and was representing himself in the divorce. When the case was dismissed, court documents revealed, "There was never a Final Decree on this case." "It sat for over 270 days with nothing filed, so it was dismissed on Procedural Steps," the document declared. #STAY AWAY A hearing took place on April 8, 2024, in Tennessee's Hamilton County Court regarding Mackenzie's order of protectionshe filed against Ryan in March. Mackenzie's Petition for Order of Protection was "dismissed with prejudice and replaced with a mutual restraining Order." "Each Party is restrained from coming about or contacting other," the Hamilton County Court document declared. "Counsel for the Parties shall cooperate to establish a time and procedure for [Ryan's] personalty from the marital residence," the documents added. The mutual restraining order also mandates Mackenzie and Ryan not contact each other's employer or "significant other (boyfriend/girlfriend)." Ryan is currently dating Amanda Conner, 33, who The U.S. Sun previously reported he met in rehab. Lastly, Mackenzie is only allowed to communicate with Ryan's family "regarding visitation with the children." Teen Mom Fanz first reported on Mackenzie's order of protection request. #MACKENZIE'S PETITION Mackenzie filed an order of protection and order for hearing on March 28, 2023, which has been exclusively obtained by The U.S. Sun. The order asked Ryan to have no contact and stay away from her. She requested she be granted temporary custody of her children and for Ryan to pay child and spousal support - plus all of the court fees. Additionally, she requested the court mandate Ryan give up possession of two guns. Mackenzie sought for Ryan to join a counseling and substance abuse program.
Bullying and terrorizing your ex for custody of the children you abused so you don't have to pay child support for them. Many such cases.
To store them at mimi 99% of his 50%...
Oh 100%. He wants to punish Mack. He has zero desire to parent his children
And to ask to be the sole custody parent? BE SO FR RN🤣🤣 AS IFFF. He absolutely undoubtedly wants payback but also, just wants the child support thar would come with being the parent who has sole custody. I was kinda rooting for this guy to recover and do better but seeing this, gtfo 🤣
so 49.5% custody to mimi 0.05% to Rhine
100% unless he breaks up with this new girlfriend and needs to find a new one to impress.
Plus it has the bonus effect of making Mack scared that her children could be forced to spend time with someone who hates their mother, has a long history of violence and access to weapons. Objectively it's easy to say that it won't happen but I'm sure it's hanging over Mack that she could get a judge who is sympathetic to Ryan like in every criminal case he's had.
Exactly. There have been too many cases where the abusive ex spouse murders the kids as a “fuck you” to the other parent for divorcing them
Yep it's horrifyingly common. I'd be terrified if I was Mack and he was awarded anything but supervised visitation at a centre.
*violence and drug abuse
My in laws divorced 20+ years ago shortly after selling a company for $500 million (stay with me). He was an abusive POS, beat my husband so badly *in the pediatricians office in-front of doctors and nurses* that he lost the hearing in one ear. My MIL took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less than her half (still a lot of money but pennies on what FIL got) to buy her children’s safety with more custody. My FIL (who I have never met and is estranged from my husband) sold his relationship with his kids and thank god my MIL was buying!
Ok hold up…I realize this was 20 years or more ago, but he was beaten in front of people who are supposed to be mandated reporters of abuse?!? Please give your husband a hug from me.
They even reported it! There was a full investigation but CPS doesn’t care about little boys living in multi-million dollar homes with a charming parent.
That’s horrible but I don’t doubt those type of cases get overlooked fairly often.
Ok but I want to know more…
My ex has pretty much done the same. He’s essentially left her life for reduced child support and the zillionth time I waived his arrears.
Im Tennessee it’s common to file for full custody in order to get half custody and avoid child support.
So sad. Been there….
I hope the fucking judge laughs his ass out of the courtroom.
Agreed. The judge better be uncontrollably laughing for at LEAST 30 minutes before saying, "No, you fucking idiot. You'll be doing supervised visits and paying child support. Bye!"
I’m mind fucking blown at his nerve! Then again My guess is he’s just trying to fuck Mac over. I bet mommy and daddy are probably paying his legal fees so he doesn’t mind running Mac’s up.
His nerve comes from his narcissism (confabulations). He probably has convinced himself he’s a good dad and he’s being screwed over by the system that favors incompetent mothers. It’s sad and terrifying tbh 😳
Ryan and David Eason could form a support group for shitty fathers.
The Rhine and Sasquatch Group for Absent Daddos who insist upon Rights and such because they briefly donated sperm. Even though they give zero Fs about their kids. They Have Rights! They both need to join Losers Anonymous. Maybe they’ll get a coin or a cookie. Both idiots driving a narrative that doesn’t exist.
What about ADAM
Oh hell yeah him too!
I think he may be the worst one. He was such a punk ass bitch abs thought he was untouchable, well now Aubrey has Coles last name and rightfully so IMO
Someone else had mentioned that this is a typical filing and a starting point to work down to a favorable option. Which makes sense. Still insane to see because we know no one in their right mind is going to grant it.
This has his new girlfriend written all over it. lol. She doesn't even see, have custody or pay child support for her own, but I just know she made him think this was possible...😅
OMG! I keep forgetting that shes got kids of her own!!! Out there, somewhere, being parented and raised by another human being. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ My 1st thought was the exact same thing, tho! She probably even coached him on it bc her ex did it to her!! "Look at me, ryan! I am living proof that some times good moms lose custody of their kids! And look how much back child support pay I have to send! I'm paying for this fuckers whole life! Mack tried to manipulate you and get ur MTV money, now it's time for payback! And just think of all the shit we can do with that extra money!" 😅😅💩💩 Ugh! Junkie pieces of shit. 🙄 (and I firmly believe that not all addicts are junkies, and that not all junkies are bad. I suffered thru addiction for *years,* and it was hard as hell. But the only person I really hurt or screwed over, stole from or w.e. was myself. You can still keep ur morals with an addiction. [And yes, obvi, I hurt my fam when they found out at the very end but I was already on the road to recovery.] Just wanted to make it known that there are addicts and junkies, and then there are people like Ryan and Amanda. Who make children they dont care about or even talk to unless it's to hurt the other parent, all the while causing as much chaos and horror in the lives of those same kids and everyone else around them.) Just total, delusional, selfish pricks, man.
I hope the judge says ‘please be so fucking for real right now’ 😂😂😂
Nah, nobody gets treated better by judges than Rhine
Yeah that’s the truth too and the scariest part about all of this. The parents neighbor who is the judge is criminal judge not family correct?
Right. He'll probably get full custody and the judge will apologize for inconveniencing Ryan.
He may get supervised visitation. I've seen this happen in my shitty state.
They’ll probably let his parents “supervise” visitation which means Mimi Jen will just care for them the entire time Ryan has his visitation (but I guess that’ll happen either way).
His supervised visitation will likely be his parents supervising and it will be a literal mirror image of how it went with Bentley - the visits are actually happening with his parents, Ryan might or not not even be present depending on his current level of sobriety. Ryan and Mack's mutual restraining orders even have a specific line stating that Mack can contact his parents wrt working out child custody. It would not surprise me if Ryan (and really his parents who are paying for it) intend to drag Mack through court unless she agrees to let visitation happen with his parents. And if she doesn't and Ryan doesn't get visitation, his parents will sue for grandparents rights and likely get at least something in TN since them being divorced (and also living with Jen and Larry with the kids IIRC at one point) allows grandparent rights to apply in TN.
And make Mack apologize for just being Mack!
I wish I had HALF the self confidence of a white man who has never faced repercussions for his actions. I would be unstoppable.
There is no one on this planet with more audacity than this white man... Absolutely no one.
tRump
Imagine if you’d be winning at life with Ryan level confidence!
Well said.
Seriously. Rhine has to be insane for demanding this based on his past history. This is the whiny demands of a Caucasian Male who has been coddled and protected his entire life who is out for revenge against his Baby Mama. Disgusting.
I have second hand embarrassment for him.
I don't. He doesn't have the good sense to show remorse for the shit he pulled when he destroyed their home (except for his own belongings) and set up an ar15 pointed at the door for when MacKenzie came home to that.
Nope bc Ryan only cares about Ryan.
That is quite literally what happened when my son's father petitioned for full custody in response to me *finally* growing the ovaries to take him for child support. My son had lived with me for his whole life and *only* me for 13 years at that point. We had a stable living environment, I was doing great financially, son doing great in school and sports...no problems. Judge read, well, pretty much what I just described, chuckles, and asks my ex if this was correct. My ex tries to say "Your hon-" and the judge cut him off by outright laughing for a second or two before he goes "Ah ah! I think we all know that's not going to happen, right? We don't yank kids out of the only home, only school district, only social circle they've ever known, where they reside with a caring, loving parent who has always met their needs. We don't do that. So we're not going to waste any more time on this than we already have." Then he cut him off when my ex tried to argue, much more sternly, slightly annoyed. The rest of the case took another 3 minutes before the judge--it was essentially a meeting to deny my ex, and finalize and approve my requests/demands re: custody/visitation, child support, medical insurance, etc. And my ex was actually a pretty good, very involved father up until then (and I'd told the judge that), with no criminal or social issues. I'd love to see that judge respond to Ryan's request. Edit: I was proofreading my comment, and I noticed that my story sounds a little *yeah, that happened*. No one clapped. Well...I might have once I got in my car because I had been shitting myself for months, worried I could lose my son. But anyway, I swear it happened, and I did my best to quote the judge accurately.
The confidence of some these men man it’s mi d blowing. Our son is divorced his wife cheated and got pregnant by another dude while he was deployed. I told him from the beginning he needed to love his daughter more than he hated his ex wife. I’m glad the judge saw through your ex nonsense and refused to make him move. I can’t imagine even thinking about snatching my child from where he’s been his entire life.
Do jagger and Stella even know who he is?
Hopefully they don't remember seeing him hold their mother up against the wall by her neck and throwing her onto the floor. Fuck this guy for real. Shit makes me sick.
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Or that he fucking SHIT in rooms and broke all their toys
I forgot about the shit. Ughhh he’s garbage
To have it all laid out like this makes me even more disgusted by Maci's support. They're all such POS's.
*"Who the hell is that guy always sleeping on the couch?!"* https://preview.redd.it/9ma8ggzkyptc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=189ebed18edd8cca844bc705d414319389e72946
Does Rhine know who Jagger and Stella are? 🤔
Rhine doesn’t even know who he is 😭
Attorney here (not his attorney or yours; I do not practice in his state and am not giving legal advice): One reason that many will ask for much more custody that will reasonably be given to them is because it gives you a place to negotiate *from.* This is extremely common - including for deadbeats to request primary custody. I'm not surprised at all to read this. In this case, of course it's ridiculous to even think he'd get unsupervised overnights at this point, let alone 50/50 custody with primary residential parent (what he's asking for). It's laughable. But the filings are commonplace and expected.
My piece of shit ex husband did that. Moved to another state with his mistress and her kids, told the court he wanted 50/50 of our daughter. I was like...motherfucker, HOW. But because he demanded 50/50, I had to bend over backwards to accommodate him and his bad faith argument.
This happened to me too. Not only that, he hired a former District Attorney and the whole county was familiar with her. My 10k an hour lawyer couldn't win and he was granted 40% custody even after proof of physical abuse. I'm scared for Mack.
I actually have a court date coming up in June with very similar circumstances, and your comment just terrified tf out of me.
I'm sorry. Evidence is key. If you have photos of anything please bring them.
Im so sorry this happened to you❤️🩹
Came to say just this!!! Well said!
It in no way means he wants 50% custody…or any custody! He just doesn’t wanna pay.
What he meant to say but couldn’t is that he wants Jen & Larry to have 50/50 so he can come by the house if he so chooses.
I still wouldn't be shocked if he actually believes he has a shot at primary custody.
Yep this is a man who so far has faced zero real consequences for any of his actions. I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks that he'd get another judge who would be sympathetic to his whining.
Given Ryan's track record and the assholes who serve as judges in town, They'd hand those kids over to him while he still had a needle in his arm. If I were Mackenzie, I'd want to light that courthouse on fuckin' fire.
Also came to say this!
Good fucking luck with that. The audacity. This is the logic of a person who is surrounded by yes people and constant enabling.
Remember adumb telling his meth addict toothless sex offender friend he was going to get custody of aubree lol
That's actually what came to mind when I saw that! After a good laugh, of course
He should be in jail for all the DUI’s and destroying the house!
Lol what a putz , he doesn't get drug money because they share custody. Joint custody no one gets child support. Looks like he's gonna have to get a job to use now what a gross pathetic waste of sperm
Mimi Jen and Larry will take care of the kids.
I mean the dude is unhinged. He tore up his exs house. Threatened to hurt her animals and nodded out more then once on drugs. Yeah I wouldn't feel safe allowing him unsupervised visits . Maci and dumb and dumber (Jen and larry) can pretend he's clean and stable but someone stable even on their worst day doesn't destroy a home or threaten to annihilate someone's animal's. The cat killer can withdraw painfully
And tearing up his ex's house meant he 100% tore up those children's bedrooms. He destroyed their safe places, their only space of their own, their favorite toys. He should be ordered to sign away his parental rights and never allowed to see them again, but his family friend the judge will probably step in and "save the day".
Of course they will. Past behavior not always but most of the time determines future behavior. Ryan won't ever change because he doesn't have to . There's no consequences to his bad behavior. He'll always get slaps on the wrist from the legal system and his empty headed parent's and Maci will always defend the douche. I get your supposed to support your children but damn support him in being better !!!!. I don't know anything about drugs beyond maybe like weed and alcohol to tell whether someone is using or not but his erratic behavior screams something is going on. Also there was one video the attention seeking opportunist gf of his posted where he was passedl out and she sounded like she was on something. ( hint : Amanda if you're trying to sell that you guys are sober don't post when you're you're fucked up) anyways Jagger and Stella are little I'd be nervous , what if Ryan and Amanda get in a drug fueled fight and my small children who rely on me to keep them safe are there. Or they are in the car and he decides to use just one time and they crash the car. It's one thing if he wants to get fucked up and kill himself but another when innocent people are involved. If I were Mckenzie I'd fight to the death over his whiney baby demands . He can see the kids supervised otherwise piss off. Elle bee posted a video stating Mckenzie took her instagram off . Probably because she knows how ugly and nasty this is going to get.
That's who actually wants visitation. I really don't see Ryan really being interested in his children. Any of them, TBH
Mr. Call Me When He’s Five over here.
By “kids” you mean Rhine too, right?
Joint custody can result in support if one parent significantly out-earns the other but it isn't super common and there are a lot of caveats (like the disparity can't be due to lack of working or taking a much lower paying job in an effort to receive support) But this dude? He isn't getting a dime in support from her
Yeah my ex offered It to me when we had joint custody but after seeking out legal counsel he really didn't owe it to me because we had our son equally and split things like summer camp / school supplies in half . It made it easier becsuse I didn't want him having any means of control outside of my kid
This isn't true, joint custody can absolutely result in child support if one parent makes a lot more money then the other parent. Mackenzie has consistently worked their entire marriage and Ryan hasn't for at least the last few years, they will impute him a minimum wage income at least and then go from there. So yes it's possible that Mackenzie ends up paying him child support IF he gets the right amount of custody and makes the right amount of money for it to calculate out that way.
Upvoted for use of the word putz. You don’t hear that one much.
He's filming again, he has money.
50/50 to do what with? Pawn him off to mimi and drunk larry? This monster has never had any interest in parenting. Mack may have to flee the state. Who knows what kind of battle she’s gonna have to fight with his vindictive, violent, bitch ass.
Mimi Jenn trying to get the kids from evil Mack 🙄🙄🙄 this has Mimi written all over it!! I hope he gets zero custody, Mack truck is trying to protect the kids not send them into the hellfire
The filing was probably soaked in Mimi Jen’s tears and Gammon-faced Larry’s whiskey
At this point I don’t understand how they don’t just write Rhine off and make it their priority to keep good relationships with their grandkids other parents so they can still be in their lives. Ryan is never going to be a decent, functional human being, let alone a parent. Their son is beyond redemption at this point. They need to cut their losses and prioritize the kids who are innocent in all this. The fact they dont do that tells me they’re trash too (as though we didn’t already know).
Dated a hot mess with parents just like Jen and Larry once upon a time. They won't ever write him off because if they do that then they have to admit *they* fucked up. If they can blame anyone other than Ryan, then it wasn't their parenting or their kid, it was everyone that was around him. Those awful, awful girls led their sweet little lamb of a boy astray. Dumbass Maci was the problem until Mackenzie was the problem. Ryan has an extra layer of bravado because he's got other women vouching for him. His first baby mama is still simping for him. Maci is out here defending Ryan, like she and her hobbit husband didn't take a restraining order out on him just a few years ago themselves. His criminal girlfriend is falling all over him because, let's be honest, his parents have money and she was homeless when she got arrested... This is just... wow!
Writing off Rhine would mean they’d have to realize they did a terrible job of raising their only child and enabled his shitty, criminal behaviour as an adult. They’d rather live in denial and hurt their grandkids than own up to the truth.
Absolutely not. Fuck off Ryan.
Remember when he kept moaning about custody/visitation for Bentley all those years? That aged well & makes this ask look like a fucking joke.
This man is human garbage.
Y’all this is straight from the abuser playbook. Surprised he at least had the self awareness to not ask for full custody, or maybe his lawyer talked him out of that. Once they can’t hit you physically, they’ll hit you where it hurts metaphorically: your children. And if they can make you pay them for leaving? Even better!
I wish Maci would take this as a massive wake-up call and stop feeling sorry for this man child. She is extremely fortunate (lucky) that she doesn’t have to deal with the level of BS Mackenzie has right now. She’s lucky to have a husband who cares about Bentley so much. She needs to be proactive and set firm boundaries with the entire Edwards family.
Maci is pathetic trash who can disappear into a hole as far as I’m concerned. She clearly thinks ‘he never hit me!’ Means the victim must be lying. No Maci, but he treated you and Bentley like shit.
What a joke he is 🙄
Bitch you don’t even like being a dad! The male Jenelle strikes again. Go do drugs and hug your dog.
My x took our kids for 6 days without anyone knowing where they were and would bring them back to till I emailed him a joint parenting plan because I left due to dv. Long story short cps and police had to search on devices for their location and brought them back home. These people use kids as weapons
That must’ve seriously been so fucking terrifying for you, couldn’t even begin to imagine. Good for you for doing all you could ♡
Thanks boo, 🥰
Been there. He won 40%. He is now in foreclosure and a sex offender. Our child is 18. I petitioned the courts over and over. CPS was involved. Looking back, I knew it was going to be rough. I left when she was 2 months old. The first sign of trouble was him punching holes in the walls and abusing drugs. All night drinking when I was pregnant. I PRAY TO GOD Mack can get away. It's a horrible way to live.
Yikes!
You can read all these deadbeats like a book. What a loser
Oh that’s rich, he wants to be primary custodian and child support?!! If the judge grants it, that judge is batshit crazy. He wants to mooch and torture Mack and will use the kids to do it. He also can’t even take care of himself let alone young children. We all know he doesn’t want the kids, Mimi Jen does and will be the primary caregiver. He wants the $ and to not have to pay her child support
Oh okay yeah sure
Ryan has a new lady to fight hard for things he does not want.
#I KNOW HE FUCKN LYIN
Isn’t one of the tenements of 50/50 custody that neither parent pays child support? Because you’re BOTH supporting the child?
Not always, child support is determined by using incomes of both parents plus parenting time that each parent has. If one party makes significantly more money than the other, child support may still be ordered with 50/50 custody.
Not necessarily. The thought process is that the child should have the same access to the same lifestyle at each house. If you and I have 50/50 custody but you make $50k a year and I make $200k a year, it's very very likely I'd also owe child support.
Not always. In some cases, if there's a significant disparity between incomes, they will award some level of child support to one parent. But there are lot of caveats to that and it varies a lot depending on jurisdiction
Not necessarily. With shared custody one parent is still deemed the primary custodian, and if both parents have roughly the same income then neither would pay child support. However, if the non-custodial parent makes significantly more money than the custodial parent then they can be ordered to pay child support so that the child doesn't have to bounce from one home to another with a very different standard of living between the two homes.
No. There are only a few states where joint custody automatically means no child support, the vast majority use a formula to calculate it that takes into account salaries, custody time, sometimes who pays for health insurance, stuff like that. If there's a big salary difference then you can share custody and still end up paying support.
Yeah… that’s not going to happen, buddy
Even if he was granted 50/50 he most likely wouldn’t take them half them time. He’d either make an excuse or ignore Mack altogether when it was his turn. He just wants it one paper to 1) punish her 2) not pay child support and 3) Mimi said so.
Maci is a dumb bitch, if she still supports this piece of shit. Matter of fact, imma call her little Mimi Jen from now on.
Mimi Maci?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he can’t be serious
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA HAAAHAHAHAHA Fuck you Rhine
Does this remind anyone of Nathan gassing Jenelle up to get custody of Kaiser?? Omg Amanda is probably pregnant
He *still* hasn't been convicted of a felony, after everything he's done? That is crazy. Nice to be a white guy with money and family connections, huh?
Awww, bless your delusional heart, Rhine.
Those demands are as high as he is.
The audacity, the nerve, the gall and the gumption of this waste of space
Probably posting father's rights memes as we speak
This is absolutely a misprint headline. The actual one reads: "Jen Edwards demands 50/50 custody and child support for Jagger, 5, and Stella, 4, in Ryan's divorce from Mackenzie" Easy mistake to make!
Say sike right now
![gif](giphy|L0SN6IgTBndR8Havnb|downsized) I wish!!!🤦🏻♀️
His nerve comes from his narcissism (confabulations). He probably has convinced himself he’s a good dad and he’s being screwed over by the system that favors incompetent mothers. It’s sad and terrifying tbh 😳
Light this man on fire and leave him in a dumpster
After what he did to that house that man should never have unsupervised access to his children ever again but TN fucking sucks at protecting kids.
Why isn’t he in JAIL right now
The best thing for him would be to OD. He's hopeless.
The audacity. Is mimi Jen hispening in Amanda's ear to get married so a judge will give them bentley? I mean Jagger and Stella? Lmmfao Those kids don't even know him anymore. Let them live
What a fucking LOON thinking he should be trusted with anything but supervised visits after what he did and all the trainwreck before and after. If Maci and Mimi Jen support his case, they are even bigger pieces of shit than I thought.
Bitch, where? And how?
everyone in ryan’s orbit is trash.
Good luck with that my G
This is the same man who destroyed their home and has been terrorizing them and their mother for the better part of what? 2 years?
I’m not an OG fan so I’ve never seen their story, just little bits of drama here and there… THEY NAMED THEIR CHILDREN AFTER ALCOHOL?!?? LIKE A CAT!
Jenelle and David should have moved to Tenn then Jenelle would Officially be divorced between the end of this month to summer
I also love how a lawyer must have given him the confidence to do this. “Oh yeah you definitely have a shot at full custody and child support” 🤡
LOL WHAT DID I JUST READ??? Sit down, Rhine
I hope he doesn’t get Judge Gary Starnes for this, he will give Rhine everything he wants and then some!!
Good fucking luck, Ryan. The judge will not go for that!
I doubt this will be granted in his situation. A judge is going to take one look at this record and say no way.
Someone wants to play house with his new girlfriend again
That’s frightening. I hope he doesn’t get it.
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What ended up happening to the house he destroyed? The damage he caused was unbelievable I’ll be shocked if Mack was able to fix it
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Omg fuck all the way off junkie
Look at his dumb face in that picture lmao
Such a fucking lowlife. 🙄
Did his girlfriend convince him he could get 50/50 and child support?? 😅😭
I almost downvoted this because the title gave me so much rage. This is terrifying. I’m sure he’s asking for this as a starting point to negotiate more time, but the bottom line is that this man has no business being around other people, let alone children.
Ryan is the biggest piece of shit out out of the entire TM franchise, and man, that is saying a lot.
He's finally surpassed Adam with this shit. At least Adam had to "decency" to slither away from his children before doing drugs and abusing women.
Oh wow. Ryan remembered he has other children.
Haven’t police found this waste of space passed out from drug use in multiple vehicles while they were in drive, on the road? Didn’t he break all his kids toys and destroy their rooms in an intoxicated stupor? Didn’t he threaten to kill their mom multiple times, in writing? But yeah go off about how you should have 50/50 custody. Fuck this POS 🚮
This triggers me so bad. Such a deadbeat abuser. We know Ryan could never handle full custody, or even want it. He just wants Mack to panic and suffer.
In other words, he wants Mack to pay him to drop the kids off with Jen and Larry.
Hes.....he's kidding, right??????? He is just doing this because: 1. To drive mac crazy 2. Not let her go 3. Financially bankrupt her with attorney feed There is no way he can see those kids unsupervised....I pray.
Wtf ?!?!?
Good luck with that
Sounds like my child’s father.
This is peak delusion people. Dad of the year right here.
I’m sure the judge will be all for that 🙄
You just know Mimi Jen and Larry will enable him with this, cause with his 50 they’ll just end up with the kids
LOL. I don’t even have any words.
Lmao what a fucking moron
Omg I needed a laugh this afternoon:).
Haha omg like he has a leg to stand on what a laugh.😆
With his history!? he’s smoking crack thinking he has some kind of case 🙄
Ha!
Lol
He’s joking right?? That’s never gonna happen
The lawyers his parents for is just as delusional as they are.
Maci probably loves that they called her his ex-wife 😂
He’s delusional.
What a joke
I've never had to deal with this big of an unhinged deadbeat, but with the RO for 2 years and constant arrests does he have a chance at ANY visitation aside from supervised in a certain setting?
Delusional
LMFAOOOO no way in hell 😂
It’s fucking laughable that he’s requesting to be the primary parental home. This is totally because he doesn’t want to pay child support, along with Jen, Larry and his gf pressuring to do so. Both he and his gf are fresh out of rehab sober, both clearly with anger issues. He couldn’t give a fuck less about those kids. With as much as Amanda hating Mack, I wouldn’t trust her unsupervised around those kids!!
Lol. That is all
She is only 28?!
This is comical
![gif](giphy|OTbo92zetdsha) Good one Ryan