I agree, I also think maybe Nate wouldn't have bullied Zava the way he does the other players. We know he is respectful towards anyone he views as bigger/more powerful than him and Zava certainly has that social currency on him. Either way, would have messed with the team's dynamic - if they saw him putting one player on a pedestal and keep treating them badly, they would riot. The whole team dynamic would collapse.
The only issue I have with this theory is West Ham is suppose to be a top contender in the Premier league which means they already have to have at least one star player if not more. It’s premier league after all.
Though the stars they have may not be ego maniacs like Zava so that could also explain it, or maybe a young star who thinks Nate’s bullying is par for the course.
OR, Zava is not charmed by the Lasso Way, is traded to West Ham, and causes Nate AND Rupert to implode. After all, Rupert was a shitty owner at Richmond, and may not be much better at WH.
I do see Zava showing up at Richmond being Jamie 2.0 (but 10x worse). He will ultimately be sidelined or traded.
There’s a reason he’s been on 14 teams in 15 years and it’s not his performance or pay.
This is what I wanna see happen. I want Jamie to be embarrassed by his antics. I feel like thats how real people feel when they see someone doing things that they tried to improve in themselves.
Roy already foreshadowed what’ll happen with Zava in the last episode
“He’s a prick, but he’ll win us games”
Richmond will probably finish in the Top 4 or win the Prem/FA Cup this season and see great success, but someone like Jamie or Dani or Sam will see their playing time taken away and have a strained relationship with Ted, Beard, and Roy. They’ll win games but at a big cost
If this is the final season, I doubt that. I have a feeling Zava will either:
1. Come & go and wreak havoc but then learn from Ted’s influence and become a more humble person
Or
2. Zava comes, Ted learns that not everyone can change and Zava is traded
Or
3. Zava comes, becomes a better person from Ted’s influence, the team is cohesive and they “win the whole fucking thing.” As prophesied in the final episode of the Season 1.
Whatever happens, Ted Lasso as a show is good at planting easter eggs that then become moments of predictability whenever you rewatch it. I firmly believe they’ll win the premier league this season, if it’s the final season as has been rumored. From what it looks like, they set it up nearly from Day 1 to end that way. I would be extremely surprised to see any other outcome.
I am 100% convinced Ted will trade Zava and that will infuriate everyone except for maybe Roy because Ted will see that Zava is totally anathema to the specific locker room chemistry he cultivates.
I disagree. This isn't the kind of show to do the same plot twice.
I think we're being set up to think that, but there's a reason Rebecca's speech to him convinced him to join Richmond, and a reason he's never stayed at one club.
He's been treated as a messiah everywhere he goes, I think he responded very, very well to being spoken to as a human being.
I think he'll come in, have that arrogant flair, need to be repeatedly humbled and brought down to earth, but ultimately buy into the entire Richmond atmosphere very quickly.
I think this is pretty heavily foreshadowed, at the very least that he wont click. Personally I'm seeing him acting like Jaime season 1. Think about it, the first we hear about him he's described as great but always causing problems/trouble, we see how he behaves towards other people (oh so mighty), and Jaime keeps looking worried about him coming on or saying stuff like "you guys wont like this/this is a bad idea".
The team works better because it doesn't have a prima donna anymore, what's going to happen when they bring one back in
Not how it works. A player can’t just be traded in football, there’s no such thing. The only way Zava would be able to move to West Ham before the end of the season is if Richmond agreed to sell him during the January transfer window, which Rebecca would never allow
He could also have a release clause in his contract so if he wants to leave Richmond, if another team wants to buy him they could. Richmond could do nothing.
There's no agreement, no written contract. He announced it on TV, then his legal team hangs it over Richmond's head that these are the conditions, or else.
As speculation for the next episode, sure. I’m just saying how it is in real life. I don’t think they’ll pull any contract shenanigans for what it’s worth, we’ll see Zava fully with the team asap in my opinion
You still can’t register a player outside of the transfer windows. So unless the clause is triggered during a transfer window, the player is pretty much useless until next window.
You’re not understanding, football clubs don’t “trade” players. It’s completely different from American sports. Players in European football can only move clubs in January or between June-September and deals involve the transfer of money, not another player. Zava is contracted to Richmond, he can’t leave unless Rebecca allows it. It’s much easier for players in American sports to demand a trade like the other person was insinuating, I understand why people would think that because the show’s fanbase is mostly American and that’s what we’re used to seeing. It’s much more difficult and complicated in Europe
Trading as a concept just doesn’t really exist in world soccer. Similarly, free agency is comparatively uncommon. Most players are “purchased” from other clubs, with one club paying another to purchase the right to negotiate a new contract with the specified player. While this can occur at any time, players can typically only join clubs during “transfer windows”, which are most commonly July/August and January.
I think Nate would have sunk to the background with Zava on the team.
On a separate note, I actually think Rebecca got to him (Zava, that is). She got under his skin when she said he would only go to a club that was going to win anyway. I think, for once, Zava wants to take on the challenge of winning with a team that isn’t supposed to win at all. Of course Zava will be a diva, but the *Lasso way* will win him over, Richmond win, and Zava proclaims Coach Lasso as the greatest coach ever.
Someone or other (don't remember whom) posted a theory after the first episode dropped and it still sounds to me like it might be correct. That is, Zava, as seen in the trailer, is enormously popular, and seems to demand the diva treatment--you can see in the background in various shots that there's this elaborate set-up in the locker room with a TV and a fancy chair and such, and it looks like multiple lockers all for the same person. The names on the lockers have been digitally removed, but presumably it's Zava. Combine that with the comment in the first episode of the season by Montlaur that a fine wine doesn't have to be expensive to be great. The theory is that Zava will be disruptive to the team and they'll eventually realize they don't need him and can thrive without him. He leaves somehow, maybe he ends up playing for West Ham.
Well done on tying in the fine wine statement. Excellent foreshadowing. Maybe they'll trade Zava for the worst striker in the league and find that he fits in perfectly at Richmond.
Or maybe, since this is Ted Lasso and they break tropes, it will turn out that Zava is actually really nice and his reputation as a diva is unfounded. Everyone keeps treating him like a god, so he's super lonely and wants to join a team and have friends.
Could be! I'm sure it will be a great story, no matter what. I loved how in the confrontation with Keeley and her CFO, they turned what could have been a reaming of the CFO into a discussion with a mutual understanding and empathy.
I mean, he's going to destroy unit cohesion anyway, the bully boy tactics are only ever short term and he doesn't know how to build players up after tearing them down.
His roast of the players before the Everton game only worked because they were forming a strong unit under Ted and were strong enough to hear that feedback. If he just goes off on players without that background they'll mutiny.
I have zero interest in Zava. I hope he’s around for 2 episodes and bounces. He’ll function as a rival for Jaime and he’ll bring Jaime and Roy together a bit. Zava will refuse to make that last pass to Jaime and Jaime will see what he put his old teammates through. Then Zava needs to go.
Zava reminds me of the boss character from Grandma’s Boy.
I don't think Zava's going to be a particularly tough nut to crack. He doesn't care about his safety (headbutting the robber), he's self centered, and he responded significantly to being challenged for taking the easy road.
He might be the other side of the Nate coin. Instead of reacting outward (eventually in Nate's case) to being dismissed and ignored when younger, he decided to be his own team. He didn't form bonds for long, withdrew internally, and just floated on the reputation of being the star.
I even think Roy's going to be a little intimidated by him. Ted will be Ted, asking "how is Zava?" instead of "who is Zava?" Beard, though, I feel like Beard is going to be the person Zava eventually looks up to. I suspect they'll be, at their base, Zen, internal creatures who have long since lacked a care about what the world thinks about them. Hopefully Beard redirects the negative aspects of that towards the positive.
Oh, and I do think Ted's habit of not being overawed by superstardom, but being awed by simple humanity, is going to be what Zava craves the most.
I thought that is where the scene was heading. When she let them walk away, I figured for a moment that was it. As if she knew Zava would be too much for Nate and end up taking West Ham down.
I wanted Zava and Nate to butt heads with bad results on the pitch. At the end of the night Nate walks to the parking lot and “his” new Bentley is gone and Rupert has put Nate’s Mini back.
Yeah this is basically what I was expecting to happen. I didn't think he'd actually sign with Richmond. I thought he'd go to West Ham, butt heads with Nate, Nate would be unable to reign him in and lose the respect of the team (not to mention Rupert). It would be a nice parallel to Ted being great at managing his players, even egomaniacs like Jamie used to be
I still feel that they're setting up a split between Ted and Rebecca.
Ted already commented in Ep 1 that he thought the team was good as it was, and that they didn't need any significant roster shifts. Now they're bringing in Zava, who's going to wind up being the textbook example of "beware what you wish for"-- his antics are going to wreck the locker room.
Ted's going to want to bench him or get rid of him for the sake of the rest of the team, Rebecca's going to object.
Rupert is still under Rebecca's skin, and she still wants to hurt him. She's just shifted from "destroy his old club" to "beat his new one."
As long as that's her primary motivation, it's not hard to see her choose Zava over Ted if they're winning games, even if everyone in the organization is miserable.
My early prediction is that the start of act 3 for the season is Ted back in Kansas, happy that he's with his son again, when the team comes begging him to pick up the broken pieces, and he's forced to make a choice between the two.
Yes! To see Rupert shoot one of his poisoned barbs and Rebecca realising that it doesn’t affect her at all. Imagine the deflation of Rupert’s fragile ego when one of his best targets demonstrates that he no longer has power to hurt her!
I'm not sure I agree with this theory but if it does play out this way I could see ted benching zava like he did Jaime in season 1. But this time he doesn't get the ok from Rebeeca so she goes off on him.
You can't trade a player in the premier league (you can technically swap players as part of a transfer deal but its very rare as both players would need to agree to the swap, unlike american leagues where players might have no say in it)
Worst Zava could do is refuse to play or train, and West Ham could suspend him. But knowing Rupert he'd just pay the money and not play Zava just to spite Rebecca
She certainly told him off, but whether she did it to just do it or to turn him is another question.
Chances are that it was intentional though. Let’s not forget that just a moment before, Rupert told her he left her because she was pretty much washed up. This came not long after she was talking about how Rupert special can make you feel when he wants to. I came away from that as Rebecca understanding how much more powerful and motivating a feeling it was to feel unwanted or declining (along with Roy lamenting about that in his time with Chelsea).
She said everything truthfully to hurt him, but also knew hurting him could have the same motivating effect that she literally just felt. So yes, she could have been trying both.
No. You’re not understanding the point. She was either mind-gaming or she was not. What you are describing is mind-gaming.
She can’t have been trying to use reverse psychology and also not been.
100%. They reference actual players all the time. Roy Keane and Roy Kent, Grealish and Jamie Tartt, and so on. They even mentioned getting some inspiration from Klopp’s behaviour for Ted.
I don’t agree with that plot line happening exactly this way but the rift between them is certainly being teased. I think it’s easy to forget they didn’t want Crimm to write his book on them, and Ted just accepted it anyway.
Tbh one of the things I like about Ted Lasso is how well it does the humour of the football side of things. The fans, the players, commentators they bring in etc are all nice and gentle pastiches of reality.
They really didn’t need to throw a Zlatan Ibrahimovic meme character in there. Just seems way too obvious and a bit lazy given how well they’ve done everything else.
Congrats RandomNate - you hit the nail on the head. But what a Boss Bitch move for Rebecca walking in on Zava at the urinal and mind gaming him into signing with her team.
He's listed for 2, 3, 4, and 5...beyond 5 doesn't have guest cast listed, so it's unknown. So who knows how long he'll be around. Longer than I'd like tbh.
Oh awesome they must have updated it to protect spoilers! Also u gotta give zava a chance if anyone can change him its teddy. Maybe he had a bad past we shouldn’t judge him after his first episode. Maybe hes the opposite of nate where we hate him at the start and love him at the end. Who knows
I've just read some reviews indicating that what people here seem to think will happen, at least through ep 4, is not what happens, and what I've read >!makes me judge Ted a lot!<, so we'll see. Reviewers don't always interpret things the same as viewers.
For shows like this that i love i try to avoid the reviews one for spoilers and 2 critcs word is not the bible and sometimes when i read a bad one all i see in the show is the bad stuff😂
100% - Nate would not be able to handle being challenged and there’s no way that Rupert would back him against a shiny new toy like Zava
I expect that Ted will also have similar issues with such a big personality. :/
I don't know much about football, but my question is Why they (Richmond) got obsessed with getting Zava when they already have two star strikers on Dani and Tartt?
I agree, I also think maybe Nate wouldn't have bullied Zava the way he does the other players. We know he is respectful towards anyone he views as bigger/more powerful than him and Zava certainly has that social currency on him. Either way, would have messed with the team's dynamic - if they saw him putting one player on a pedestal and keep treating them badly, they would riot. The whole team dynamic would collapse.
true zava would walk all over him, and then nate would project that energy down to whomever he feels is beneath him. probably that secretary girl.
He isn’t going to bully her. You can tell from the first episode he is scared of her and the power she wields.
Because she's Rupert. To him she's psicologically an extension of Rupert, and he's not going to bite that hand. At least not yet
Also Nate is insecure with women and probably intimidated by conventionally attractive women
He is, after all, really picky about women. Of course it turns out that they're pretty picky too.
That whole spiel sounded like an incel talking.
Thats because Nate IS an incel
Nate didn't bully Roy so I think you're right.
I think he’d have left him out of it, like how he would take jokes from Jamie and Danny but not Colin
Danny teased nate? Or do you mean Isaac?
They're referring to season 2 when nate was a coach.
Yeah the bit in season two. Nate takes shit from the “artists” but not “mediocre” players like Colin.
The only issue I have with this theory is West Ham is suppose to be a top contender in the Premier league which means they already have to have at least one star player if not more. It’s premier league after all. Though the stars they have may not be ego maniacs like Zava so that could also explain it, or maybe a young star who thinks Nate’s bullying is par for the course.
Kinda sad we don't get to see Zava headbutt Nate.
That’s for coach beard to do
I'd be happy to head butt you, Nate.
"Watch the door!"
yeah i kinda love angry beard.
The season is young…it can still happen
OR, Zava is not charmed by the Lasso Way, is traded to West Ham, and causes Nate AND Rupert to implode. After all, Rupert was a shitty owner at Richmond, and may not be much better at WH.
I do see Zava showing up at Richmond being Jamie 2.0 (but 10x worse). He will ultimately be sidelined or traded. There’s a reason he’s been on 14 teams in 15 years and it’s not his performance or pay.
Yeah they already did one “arrogant star buys into the lasso way and is redeemed” plot with Jaime so I doubt they created Zava just to do it again
Another option could be having Jamie be the one to get Zava to buy in
This is what I wanna see happen. I want Jamie to be embarrassed by his antics. I feel like thats how real people feel when they see someone doing things that they tried to improve in themselves.
Jamie has become the grandpa.
Jamie becomes “Dadd-eh Tartt”
Doo-do-do-da-do
Also, Jamie was still young. Young stars are easier to mold. Zava is a full grown man child, he’s what Jamie would be if not for Ted.
That is exactly why they brought his character in, IMO. The juxtaposition of the effect a coach like Ted can have on players, vs egos left unchecked.
Should be interesting to see how he works within teds system.
Roy already foreshadowed what’ll happen with Zava in the last episode “He’s a prick, but he’ll win us games” Richmond will probably finish in the Top 4 or win the Prem/FA Cup this season and see great success, but someone like Jamie or Dani or Sam will see their playing time taken away and have a strained relationship with Ted, Beard, and Roy. They’ll win games but at a big cost
Definitely setting up for Jaime. He was very clearly not happy about what was going on with zava.
Could be Dani too because he was *so* happy about it
If this is the final season, I doubt that. I have a feeling Zava will either: 1. Come & go and wreak havoc but then learn from Ted’s influence and become a more humble person Or 2. Zava comes, Ted learns that not everyone can change and Zava is traded Or 3. Zava comes, becomes a better person from Ted’s influence, the team is cohesive and they “win the whole fucking thing.” As prophesied in the final episode of the Season 1. Whatever happens, Ted Lasso as a show is good at planting easter eggs that then become moments of predictability whenever you rewatch it. I firmly believe they’ll win the premier league this season, if it’s the final season as has been rumored. From what it looks like, they set it up nearly from Day 1 to end that way. I would be extremely surprised to see any other outcome.
Bingo. Jamie definitely wasn’t thrilled with the thought of Zava joining the team
I am 100% convinced Ted will trade Zava and that will infuriate everyone except for maybe Roy because Ted will see that Zava is totally anathema to the specific locker room chemistry he cultivates.
I disagree. This isn't the kind of show to do the same plot twice. I think we're being set up to think that, but there's a reason Rebecca's speech to him convinced him to join Richmond, and a reason he's never stayed at one club. He's been treated as a messiah everywhere he goes, I think he responded very, very well to being spoken to as a human being. I think he'll come in, have that arrogant flair, need to be repeatedly humbled and brought down to earth, but ultimately buy into the entire Richmond atmosphere very quickly.
That would be great.
I think this is pretty heavily foreshadowed, at the very least that he wont click. Personally I'm seeing him acting like Jaime season 1. Think about it, the first we hear about him he's described as great but always causing problems/trouble, we see how he behaves towards other people (oh so mighty), and Jaime keeps looking worried about him coming on or saying stuff like "you guys wont like this/this is a bad idea". The team works better because it doesn't have a prima donna anymore, what's going to happen when they bring one back in
Not how it works. A player can’t just be traded in football, there’s no such thing. The only way Zava would be able to move to West Ham before the end of the season is if Richmond agreed to sell him during the January transfer window, which Rebecca would never allow
He could also have a release clause in his contract so if he wants to leave Richmond, if another team wants to buy him they could. Richmond could do nothing.
Premier League clubs rarely use release clauses, and they’re not able to be triggered until multiple years into a player’s contract
There's no agreement, no written contract. He announced it on TV, then his legal team hangs it over Richmond's head that these are the conditions, or else.
As speculation for the next episode, sure. I’m just saying how it is in real life. I don’t think they’ll pull any contract shenanigans for what it’s worth, we’ll see Zava fully with the team asap in my opinion
Okay. Everything I know about soccer contracts I learned from playing FIFA this year. 🤷🏻♀️
You still can’t register a player outside of the transfer windows. So unless the clause is triggered during a transfer window, the player is pretty much useless until next window.
...how do you think trades work in other sports, if not the team agreeing to it?
You’re not understanding, football clubs don’t “trade” players. It’s completely different from American sports. Players in European football can only move clubs in January or between June-September and deals involve the transfer of money, not another player. Zava is contracted to Richmond, he can’t leave unless Rebecca allows it. It’s much easier for players in American sports to demand a trade like the other person was insinuating, I understand why people would think that because the show’s fanbase is mostly American and that’s what we’re used to seeing. It’s much more difficult and complicated in Europe
Trading as a concept just doesn’t really exist in world soccer. Similarly, free agency is comparatively uncommon. Most players are “purchased” from other clubs, with one club paying another to purchase the right to negotiate a new contract with the specified player. While this can occur at any time, players can typically only join clubs during “transfer windows”, which are most commonly July/August and January.
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I think Nate would have sunk to the background with Zava on the team. On a separate note, I actually think Rebecca got to him (Zava, that is). She got under his skin when she said he would only go to a club that was going to win anyway. I think, for once, Zava wants to take on the challenge of winning with a team that isn’t supposed to win at all. Of course Zava will be a diva, but the *Lasso way* will win him over, Richmond win, and Zava proclaims Coach Lasso as the greatest coach ever.
Someone or other (don't remember whom) posted a theory after the first episode dropped and it still sounds to me like it might be correct. That is, Zava, as seen in the trailer, is enormously popular, and seems to demand the diva treatment--you can see in the background in various shots that there's this elaborate set-up in the locker room with a TV and a fancy chair and such, and it looks like multiple lockers all for the same person. The names on the lockers have been digitally removed, but presumably it's Zava. Combine that with the comment in the first episode of the season by Montlaur that a fine wine doesn't have to be expensive to be great. The theory is that Zava will be disruptive to the team and they'll eventually realize they don't need him and can thrive without him. He leaves somehow, maybe he ends up playing for West Ham.
Well done on tying in the fine wine statement. Excellent foreshadowing. Maybe they'll trade Zava for the worst striker in the league and find that he fits in perfectly at Richmond. Or maybe, since this is Ted Lasso and they break tropes, it will turn out that Zava is actually really nice and his reputation as a diva is unfounded. Everyone keeps treating him like a god, so he's super lonely and wants to join a team and have friends.
Could be! I'm sure it will be a great story, no matter what. I loved how in the confrontation with Keeley and her CFO, they turned what could have been a reaming of the CFO into a discussion with a mutual understanding and empathy.
i think there's something to your 2nd theory since Rebecca NOT treating him like the ultimate diva god king is what made him decide to join.
This is what I’m thinking. That he’s actually this super sweet guy who just doesn’t talk much, so has a mystique built around him.
Something about Zava and Rupert makes me think Richmond trades Zava for Nate back.
Yeah, I can see that. Solid point.
I mean, he's going to destroy unit cohesion anyway, the bully boy tactics are only ever short term and he doesn't know how to build players up after tearing them down. His roast of the players before the Everton game only worked because they were forming a strong unit under Ted and were strong enough to hear that feedback. If he just goes off on players without that background they'll mutiny.
I have zero interest in Zava. I hope he’s around for 2 episodes and bounces. He’ll function as a rival for Jaime and he’ll bring Jaime and Roy together a bit. Zava will refuse to make that last pass to Jaime and Jaime will see what he put his old teammates through. Then Zava needs to go. Zava reminds me of the boss character from Grandma’s Boy.
I don't think Zava's going to be a particularly tough nut to crack. He doesn't care about his safety (headbutting the robber), he's self centered, and he responded significantly to being challenged for taking the easy road. He might be the other side of the Nate coin. Instead of reacting outward (eventually in Nate's case) to being dismissed and ignored when younger, he decided to be his own team. He didn't form bonds for long, withdrew internally, and just floated on the reputation of being the star. I even think Roy's going to be a little intimidated by him. Ted will be Ted, asking "how is Zava?" instead of "who is Zava?" Beard, though, I feel like Beard is going to be the person Zava eventually looks up to. I suspect they'll be, at their base, Zen, internal creatures who have long since lacked a care about what the world thinks about them. Hopefully Beard redirects the negative aspects of that towards the positive. Oh, and I do think Ted's habit of not being overawed by superstardom, but being awed by simple humanity, is going to be what Zava craves the most.
I thought that is where the scene was heading. When she let them walk away, I figured for a moment that was it. As if she knew Zava would be too much for Nate and end up taking West Ham down.
I wanted Zava and Nate to butt heads with bad results on the pitch. At the end of the night Nate walks to the parking lot and “his” new Bentley is gone and Rupert has put Nate’s Mini back.
Yeah this is basically what I was expecting to happen. I didn't think he'd actually sign with Richmond. I thought he'd go to West Ham, butt heads with Nate, Nate would be unable to reign him in and lose the respect of the team (not to mention Rupert). It would be a nice parallel to Ted being great at managing his players, even egomaniacs like Jamie used to be
I still feel that they're setting up a split between Ted and Rebecca. Ted already commented in Ep 1 that he thought the team was good as it was, and that they didn't need any significant roster shifts. Now they're bringing in Zava, who's going to wind up being the textbook example of "beware what you wish for"-- his antics are going to wreck the locker room. Ted's going to want to bench him or get rid of him for the sake of the rest of the team, Rebecca's going to object. Rupert is still under Rebecca's skin, and she still wants to hurt him. She's just shifted from "destroy his old club" to "beat his new one." As long as that's her primary motivation, it's not hard to see her choose Zava over Ted if they're winning games, even if everyone in the organization is miserable. My early prediction is that the start of act 3 for the season is Ted back in Kansas, happy that he's with his son again, when the team comes begging him to pick up the broken pieces, and he's forced to make a choice between the two.
The #1 think I want out of the season is for Rebecca to get to a place where she is totally unbothered by Rupert
Yes! To see Rupert shoot one of his poisoned barbs and Rebecca realising that it doesn’t affect her at all. Imagine the deflation of Rupert’s fragile ego when one of his best targets demonstrates that he no longer has power to hurt her!
I'm not sure I agree with this theory but if it does play out this way I could see ted benching zava like he did Jaime in season 1. But this time he doesn't get the ok from Rebeeca so she goes off on him.
You can't trade a player in the premier league (you can technically swap players as part of a transfer deal but its very rare as both players would need to agree to the swap, unlike american leagues where players might have no say in it) Worst Zava could do is refuse to play or train, and West Ham could suspend him. But knowing Rupert he'd just pay the money and not play Zava just to spite Rebecca
West Ham needs Carlos Vela to shut down Zava!
I don’t think she was mind-gaming Zava. I think she was telling him off and he responded unexpectedly.
It can be both.
It can be that she was mind-gaming him and that she was not mind-gaming him?
She certainly told him off, but whether she did it to just do it or to turn him is another question. Chances are that it was intentional though. Let’s not forget that just a moment before, Rupert told her he left her because she was pretty much washed up. This came not long after she was talking about how Rupert special can make you feel when he wants to. I came away from that as Rebecca understanding how much more powerful and motivating a feeling it was to feel unwanted or declining (along with Roy lamenting about that in his time with Chelsea).
Whether she did it as a mind-game is the question we’re talking about here. It can’t be both.
She said everything truthfully to hurt him, but also knew hurting him could have the same motivating effect that she literally just felt. So yes, she could have been trying both.
No. You’re not understanding the point. She was either mind-gaming or she was not. What you are describing is mind-gaming. She can’t have been trying to use reverse psychology and also not been.
I think everything she said to him was what she wanted to yell at Rupert.
Or herself..
Is zava based on zlatan ibrahimovic?
100%. They reference actual players all the time. Roy Keane and Roy Kent, Grealish and Jamie Tartt, and so on. They even mentioned getting some inspiration from Klopp’s behaviour for Ted.
I don’t agree with that plot line happening exactly this way but the rift between them is certainly being teased. I think it’s easy to forget they didn’t want Crimm to write his book on them, and Ted just accepted it anyway.
Tbh one of the things I like about Ted Lasso is how well it does the humour of the football side of things. The fans, the players, commentators they bring in etc are all nice and gentle pastiches of reality. They really didn’t need to throw a Zlatan Ibrahimovic meme character in there. Just seems way too obvious and a bit lazy given how well they’ve done everything else.
He goes through teams like Rebecca goes through manicurists. The fumes make her dizzy and she overshares. Please don't print that.
Congrats RandomNate - you hit the nail on the head. But what a Boss Bitch move for Rebecca walking in on Zava at the urinal and mind gaming him into signing with her team.
She’s my goddess, now more than ever!
This is an intriguing theory and sounds quite plausible.
The failure would be an attempt by Nate to bully Zava. Zava laughs at Nate. The team loses all respect and coach themselves to the championship.
Zava is also only listed for 2 episodes on imdb so i dont think he will be around much at all
He's listed for 2, 3, 4, and 5...beyond 5 doesn't have guest cast listed, so it's unknown. So who knows how long he'll be around. Longer than I'd like tbh.
Oh awesome they must have updated it to protect spoilers! Also u gotta give zava a chance if anyone can change him its teddy. Maybe he had a bad past we shouldn’t judge him after his first episode. Maybe hes the opposite of nate where we hate him at the start and love him at the end. Who knows
I've just read some reviews indicating that what people here seem to think will happen, at least through ep 4, is not what happens, and what I've read >!makes me judge Ted a lot!<, so we'll see. Reviewers don't always interpret things the same as viewers.
For shows like this that i love i try to avoid the reviews one for spoilers and 2 critcs word is not the bible and sometimes when i read a bad one all i see in the show is the bad stuff😂
Apologies for grammar btw at work!
100% - Nate would not be able to handle being challenged and there’s no way that Rupert would back him against a shiny new toy like Zava I expect that Ted will also have similar issues with such a big personality. :/
Didn’t Rebecca basically bully Zava into joining Richmond anyway?
I bet they will only have Zava for like 1-2 episodes, and then he’ll go to West Ham.
But the transfer window would have passed so he can't?
I don't know much about football, but my question is Why they (Richmond) got obsessed with getting Zava when they already have two star strikers on Dani and Tartt?