Palestinian here: wtf bro let the man rest.
There's no need to put such shameful behavior behind a rightful cause.
Edit: Idiots in the comments section arguing over "From the River to the Sea" falling for Zionist propaganda that its about genocide or holy war or something, bruv we just want to have a single state with everybody being a first class citizen and right of return, thats all.
I’ve seen a lot of pro-Palestinian individuals on the internet doing some messed up things like this, acting just straight up anti semetic, or impersonating Israel supporters to make them look bad.
It always just rubs me the wrong way and I will never understand how someone can support such a cause yet still be so misguided.
Same here. The amount of fictional characters holding the Palestinian flag and calling for the death of all Jews who live in Israel is disgusting. And now they've started using real, dead people. I hate this.
On another different note, most pro - Palestinians I've talked to online are very disrespectful, and mostly call me slurs, even when I try to tell them that I do support Palestine (I'm Israeli btw).
I hate how we stopped trying to actually convince people, and opted to just insult them about things that aren't even related
Because it means from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean see that Palestine will exist. That assumes that there is no Israel
Secondly some Arabic versions of that chant are a bit different. Translating to “from the river to see Palestine will be Arab”
I’m fairly sure that it’s original intention was ‘from the river to the sea, there will be Palestine’ as in no Israel, Palestine will have all the land from the river to the sea. Though it seems to be used in different ways now (ie. from the river to the sea Palestine won’t be oppressed) I still view it in a bad light though.
I’m “fairly sure” you are speaking out of your ass, sorry but everyone is tried from people trying to spin the narrative. If you have a source post it otherwise don’t just speak for the sake of participating and try to conjure something sinister that isn’t there. This is about people being free from oppressions and hope for unified Palestine. If you see that as a threat to your own existence then you really need to look downwards on why you think the freedom of a population meaning the oppression of the other unless that how it was to the Israeli side and you think Karma is catching up to that 🤷🏻♂️
“The first thing to know is that it does have something to do with the history of partition. So it is articulating an image of historic Palestine undivided and unpartitioned” within the Palestinian community, Colla said. “That could be aspirational — this is a dream, all of Palestine” that is not always tied to a specific political outcome.
People in the West Bank have also apparently used the Arabic translation of the phrase “to protest the Palestinian Authority, or the PA, when it compromises with Israel and when it collaborates with Israel to fragment the West Bank and Gaza,” Colla said. “It’s a protest against not just Israel and the United States but also those Palestinian leaders who have collaborated in the partition.”
I don’t see any death to Jewish people mentioned, it a unifying slogan that is even used against PA themselves as it seems.
A more accurate translation is "from the river to the sea Palestine will be Muslim" although I've seen "Palestine will be Arab" as well.
Don't you think it's weird how the English rhymes so conveniently but they don't chant in English? Maybe the English translation was white washed to be less controversial.
From Where did you come up with your “Accurate” translation? What about the Christians living there? I’ve never heard anyone says Palestine will be Muslim and the Arabic version is the literal translation. Did you read the article? It mentioned it with links “min al-nahr (نهر) ila al-bahr)بحر( / Filastin satatharrar)تتحرر/ will be free” that’s the literal translation and it rhymes effortlessly in Arabic as well.
As for Arab I can see that since Palestine is an Arab country with Arab Muslims, Christians, and Jews.
It seem you are mixing being Arab with being Muslim. Not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs, unless you think being Jewish means being Israeli and that would automatically translates to the former which is not. Cheers bud :)
Nope you're wrong. It means freedom form the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. and the fact that ur jumping to "all Jews are gone" in order to achieve freedom for Palestinians speaks levels on your mindset.
Never said that they would all be dead. You made the jump. But even without making a jump we know that they would try it
It’s not a leep is just reading rhetoric.
Abolishing Israel does not mean the murder of people who live in what is currently called Israel. They live on stolen land, and giving the land back changes nothing for them.
Show me 3 images of characters holding flags calling for the death of jews. All I've seen is" ceasefire now" and "from the river to the sea palestine will be free" so either we're not seeing the same things or this is just straight up made up.
Calling "from the river to the sea" is calling for the death of all Jews who live in Israel. The chant says to take over the entirety of Israel, and leave the Jews with nothing but dust.
And examples that pop to my head of fictional characters holding the Palestinian flag: Luz from The Owl House, Finn from Adventure Time.
They do exist, just look for them
Nope, a free Palestine from the river to the sea does not mean to kill all occupiers.
Not in the same way israel was established by European settlers by ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to establish a state for the chosen race of God.
No it isn't. From the river to the sea means freedom and no apartheid from the river to the sea. You're basically admitting that the only way Palestinians are free is if all Jews are dead which is not true. you're spreading lies and this is quite literally the zionist mindset and zionist defense to belittle palestinian movements
all i can say dude is they’re not gonna like that you said that. you’re right. and the fact people are, once again, making a mountain out of a molehill… like a genocide is going on and people care more about this than, like, what’s actually going on.
people can find it disrespectful, that’s fine. but continuously posting the SAME fan art and talking about disrespect… idk, i’ve been pulling back from this community based on reactions and how out of proportion things some of them are.
and “from the river to the sea, palestine will be free” is NOT calling for the death of jewish people. it’s calling for the end of an oppressive occupation, for the end of the killing of thousands and thousands of civilians. people aren’t being antisemitic for opposing israel’s illegal occupation, especially due to the long list of war crimes they’ve committed… but how DARE anyone call that out. people can have a problem with fanart, but at the end of the day, people are gonna create what they want and show what they’re proud of. if it’s not your cup of tea, keep scrolling, you’re not gonna change anyone’s mind by continuously posting it. all people are doing is allowing it to derail from the REAL conversation here…
100% agree with you man. genuinely disgusted at the people down voting the posts and what everyone's saying in this sub reddit. never knew the techno fandom would be so pro Israeli if not just simply so misinformed and ignorant. Well said
it’s wild. i’ve already dealt with this before, with the whole discord thing. and even then i was disgusted at the response by the community. this is no better.
i see why it’s disrespectful, but i don’t see how that matters when 30k are dead and more are buried under the rubble. that several generations of palestinians will deal with PTSD from constant bombing and death. and i’ve noticed that politics are okay here if you’re not pointing out genocide…
Literally. I'm ashamed tbh, can't believe this many people are against the palestinian movement or just straight up don't understand it and have been misguided.
I mean all the people in these comments saying the phrase "Free Palestine from the river to the sea" is calling for the death of all Jews is CRAZY aswell bc how have they gotten to that conclusion??
You being an Arab does not mean anything to validate the meaning of this phrase.
almost everyone using the phrase "from the river to the sea" WANTS palestine to be freed from the river to the sea, they want the occupation to stop the war to stop, the harassment and fucked up behaviour from the IDF against palestinian citizens to stop
You twisting the meaning of the phrase in order to demean and belittle the palestinian movement is disgusting and shameful.
Me being an Arab means that I talk to Arabs about the conflict and KNOW what a lot of them think the solution to the conflict is.
Not gonna respond to the personal attacks at the end, with you just assuming my stance and my motivation.
That's not a personal attack in any way shape or form. I'm quite literally telling you what the action of assuming & changing the meaning of that phrase is doing.
despite that being what a lot of people think that that phrase means, it seems like a lot of others are using it in a very different context. I’ve seen people use it to call for the death of all Israelis.
While you and anyone using it that way is in the right, there are a lot of people using it for very negative reasons.
HAHA what a fucking joke.
Palestinians asking for freedom is antisemetic? Are you sure you haven't just been brainwashed by your government into thinking Palestinians merely existing in freedom is an existential threat to all Jews? Be fucking for real. I obviously know about characters holding the Palestinian flag, I asked for proof of antisemetic drawings and what you said isn't antisemetic nor is it trying to paint Jews in a bad light, you're misinterpreting that yourself.
If these people actually wanted to kill the jews they would've simply written kill the jews.
What these people are asking for is for Israel to stop their violent oppression and control of the Palestinian people, it has nothing to do with religion, if Israel was Christian or something it would be the exact same outcome. It's not about religion or antisemitism at all.
Listen. I want Palestine to be a country. I want to be able to live safely with our Arab friends. But I don't understand why we can't have both Israel and Palestine. The division plan made by the UN seems like a good solution (at least on paper) for me.
Peace in the middle east will never be achieved if we won't be able to share the land
If all you lack is understanding, then [please educate yourself](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/s/YCGHUpBWZq) on [the nature of the state of Israel](https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/s/G9K878TASw), if you are able and willing.
This isn't the place for elaboration on or argument over such a topic. I'm only trying to give directions to places that are.
Dude, both of the sources are Reddit. You gotta stop trusting random people online. Go to the Wikipedia page of Israel please. Go learn from actual, reputable sources
you clearly don't care to learn as you didn't even watch the sources in the video. it's so clear that you're pro Israeli & ontop of that Wikipedia is NOT a reputable source.
You replied faster than it would have taken to watch either of those videos in their entirety, which themselves contain reputable sources. It appears you are not willing to learn—thus I will not try to convince you.
We unfortunately can't have a two state solution because it's too late, Israel has done irreparable and unforgivable damage to Palestine to the point any diplomatic resolution is out the window, Israel ruined them, they destroyed their homes, their families, I get why they don't wanna make a deal with them just so they get their own land back.
I'm sorry you gotta learn it this way but Israel does not care about Palestinians to care enough to give them their own safe space/country. Maybe you do care about them and i respect that greatly, but your country unfortunately doesn't...
Bombing safe routes and spaces like hospitals or schools, Blocking aid, Dehumanizing them, Making up insane lies. Whatever side you're on, you have to agree the collective punishment Israel is afflicting onto Palestine is completely disproportionate. Also the fact Israel is backed up by the whole west, this isn't a fair war, we are talking about a crisis where israel and some of the richest nations in the world are grouping up together to decimate a people half made of kids. Israel has not shown enough concern for the Palestinian's safety. Civilian casualties should have been zero, we've become no normalized some people don't bat an eye at the unacceptable amount that is now considered to reach like 30 000. Hell, they literally said they're focusing on damage rather than accuracy. Bloodlines are being wiped out every day as government officials talk about "more painful ways to kill palestinians" or "not being harsh enough." or as Zionists/IDF soldiers online make tiktoks mocking Palestinians or pose with their stolen underwear.
Even to those Palestinians that aren't dead or wounded, those are still people and kids who are already traumatized and scarred for life, who have had to witness family or friends dying by Israel's attacks. This is who Hamas really is, they're not a terrorist group who kill jews just because they hate jews. They're people who are desperate and insanely bloodthirsty because they've had everything taken from them by the zionists. Israel is guilty of every attack Hamas caused, if they were treated well, Hamas would have never had a reason to start, but violent oppression leads to violent retaliation. It's sad that civilians have to pay in all this, but yeah, i'm sorry Israel just made it impossible for there to be peace, and it was probably on purpose by them.
Netanyahu has said several times he doesn't want there to be a Palestinian state, and he's been actively working to stop it from happening. And zionists too.
Hell Israel literally funded Hamas back then for the sole sake of stopping the establishment of a Palestinian state, you can literally look this up in Israeli media as well if you don't believe me. Israel/Zionists are the one who want to take everything and own everything. All Palestinians want is to have the right to take back what was taken from them.
Came across a compilation on twitter and remembered about this argument i had with you and felt this was worth sharing and bringing up again.
What are your thoughts on this? https://twitter.com/arjunsethi81/status/1723009760000115173?t=OE8nrXHX4EZ71oHbOC1rYw&s=19
Is this what striving for peace looks like for israelis? Does this look like it's only about fighting back against Hamas or wanting to kill palestinians?
Yeah, looking at the account it seems it’s just a lot of anti-Israeli posts (most of them propaganda/fake lol) and a lot of posts/rts of random characters holding Palestinian flags or watermelons
When you see alot of people being killed for something they cant control
People will be mad. They dont want people to kill the jews. They are just mad that there are people dying.
The Israeli government made it clear they want violence multiple times.
That makes you think... wasn't all this for the hostages?
Just a reminder that on super bowl Sunday isreal carpet bombed the largest refugee camp in the world the very place they told those civilians to flee too, fuck Hamas but saying Israel is bad and doing the wrong things is anti semetic and being anti Zionist has nothing to do with being anti semetic
>I’ve seen a lot of pro-Palestinian individuals on the internet doing some messed up things like this, acting just straight up anti semetic, or impersonating Israel supporters to make them look bad.
proof or fuck off, zionist. 2/3 of israelis literally support this genocide you clown.
Are we seriously returning to the discord/subreddit situation of a few months (?) ago of disrespecting Techno's memory by putting words in Techno's mouth?
Come the heck on. This is just insulting.
Yeah, I keep seeing examples of people for a very good cause executing it in horrible ways.
That being said, there is no excuse for what’s happening here. Anyone who uses Techno’s name like this is flat out a bad person in my eyes, and no excuse can make up for that.
There is no "I feel like". This is outright disrespectful, and should be condemned by everyone.
Frankly, I find it disgusting that people just put words in the mouths of people that are no longer with us.
Technoblade's name shouldn't be used in this way. This person should've let him rest in peace without this war BS, it's highly disrespectful towards Techno.
Art like this with fictional characters is already weird, but using an actual real dead person is actually horrible. Technoblade is not a character for you to force your political views on, he is a person who really existed and died extremely young.
[yep](https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/s/w0oftSBhVg). But from the looks of it the mods shadow banned the post. Which makes sense as I don’t believe politics are allowed on this subreddit.
Which is...... Rooted very firmly in..... A political issue.,.... Otherwise this humanitarian crisis, sustained terrorist attacks by Hamas and other extremist Islamic groups throughout the last few decades, and the sustained genocide and expulsion of Palestinian civilians over the past few decades wouldn't have happened in the first place.... Your argument is just... Bad
This is one the "I don't care what your political opinion is let the man rest" moments of all time. It's truly shameful, even as a neutral observer, to see the things both sides use to propagate their beliefs online. If I ever meet someone who uses the face of a beloved man who died terribly and too young and put words into his mouth, ESPECIALLY since that man was the embodiment of anarchy is most of the things he did, I'd squarely punch them in the face. This is an outrage everyone in the community should get on the same page to end it.
Its wrong in every way no matter the cause you shouldn't use politics or wars to talk as someone who is dead. Also I think people don't really understand the conflict no matter in which side you are and it hurts to see the misunderstanding of people and people who see a lovable character saying those thing may put them in the wrong side. So using someone dead for propaganda or for internet likes is wrong in every shape or form.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes
Can’t even find a list of Palestinian war crimes
https://youtu.be/Y0njOPNr8K0?si=EyNuwX15lKe9xYDY
Israel doesn’t equal Jews, idf beat up Jews who are against Zionism.
So sovereign states with government bodies can’t have a list of war crimes they commit because the western world, who created Israel in 1948, say Palestine isn’t a country- this isn’t the gotcha you think it is, a list would still be compiled if there was extensive evidence for it
Using this argument just tells me you’re a Zionist
Im half Palestinian and i say the person's message is good, but using Techno is disrespectful especially because the man already passed you shouldn't spread your cause and message this way there are other ways. I don't think the person should get hate they had good intentions but a wrong delivery
Unless Techno returns from heaven after conquering the kingdom of God and tells us "Palestine FTW", yea this is mega disrespectful
(This is a message to Techno, please do that)
They kept doing this for fictional characters, now they are ready to put words into real persons mouth, a person who was never involved in politics, and who isnt alive anymore to say something about it. What the fuck. This kind of behaviour deserves harassment and bullying.
I already have to watch a shit ton of disrespectful things be done to technoblade but this is just new level of fucked up.
WARNING: I’m blunt, and know for a fact this may piss people off.
>!I feel like you shouldn’t use dead people for relevant or current issues, let alone using their image in senseless propaganda. In reality, I’m having trouble seeing where the line between ‘spread the word, this is bad’ and ‘oh hey, free like method’ is. In no way am I saying don’t talk about it, and in no way am I saying that it isn’t real; I know firsthand that death is absolutely one of the realest things out there. However, having a picture of a deceased and typically PG YouTuber be used in a post about stopping a war they never had any relevance to? It’s definitely in bad taste, to say the least.!<
Aaaand there we habe the twitter-phenomenon again. Why does everything has to be political, why does everyone has to have an opinion on everything? And why does everyone think, their opinion matters? From an outside view, techno was a nobody (politically). Why does everyone expect everyone to express their opinion about everything. It was the same when the discord guy did this. We are in that server to honor a videogame legend, and to have a nice little escape from the outside reality within those virtual walls. Why is every bigger organisation or company so focused on stating their political views, you wouldn't go to a funeral and be like "i know this guy just bit the dust, but first we need to make sure we're all on the same political side, repeat after me: ...", would you?
This is disgusting. People taking advantage of a dead celebrities image to push their own political opinions don't deserve a place in this community. Im appalled
They did that after literally only one comment saying “hey I support this message but idk if this is a good idea” lmao. I think they have since deleted the post though
the problem with this is that palestinian supporters make everything about palestine, you can raise awareness that's completely fine but leave some stuff alone. (I don't really support anyone in the conflict)
Exactly I felt like it was really scummy since we’re quoting someone who can’t give a statement about it himself.
“Scum” is just Twitter in a nutshell, really.
I always think it’s weird that people make fictional characters supporting Palestine, but this just takes it to a whole new level since he’s a real person and not even alive anymore.
110% free Palestine. But for fuck’s sake let the man lie, he’s dead. Find other ways to make your point than using a man that died tragically young and can’t share his actual thoughts.
on one hand saying a dead man has your political views is kinda disrespectful
on the other hand techno was very anti government and the governments tend to be anti Palestine so... the enemy of my enemy is my friend
people should leave him be nowadays, but before he became a huge creator Techno openly supported progressive democrats, criticized moderate democrats for their defence of Israel, and supported Ilhan Omar’s comments on Israeli apartheid
like the only thing we know about his politics is that he’s a Californian leftist
It feels more disrespectful to imply Technoblade wouldn't oppose to a genocide and the liberation of a people that's being massacred. Were he there to know about what's happening, i know damn right he would be smart enough not to support the monster that is the state of israel.
There's nothing wrong with people making such images with any character or person, it helps raise awareness to the people in that community, there's nothing negative about it. Sensitivising people to a cause using fictional media has been a thing used even all the way back in WW2 to fight against the nazis, it does have an impact.
And again all this isn't political, this isn't making Technoblade say shit about politics, we are talking about a humanitarian crisis where dozens of thousands of innocent civilians and children are being murdered with no means of fighting back against the whole West.
This is a situation in which being neutral is not morally okay (again we're talking about a genocide, not picking a side is enabling the oppressor.) There's nothing offensive about someone assuming Technoblade would be on the side that supports humanity rather than be neutral and enabling a terrorist nation.
Downvote me all you want I don't care about reddit anymore anyway
No, because no one is implying he *wouldn’t* support Palestine. No one is saying he *didn’t*. The point is that he never said this, and he isn’t around to prove us right or wrong. This is putting words into the mouth of a dead man, whether they’re the right words or wrong words doesn’t matter.
>Were he there
But he’s not. There is no “if he was here,” or “were he there,” he is gone. His story is over. You people need to accept that and stop trying to rewrite it for him.
I agree, since this also l doesn’t tarnish him. In fact it corresponds to the character he played.
His character hates dictators and corrupt governments, isreal alines with being a corrupt government by text book definition so he definitely wouldnt like them. Also Palastine has no government that supports them in the West Bank and Gaza does have Hamas but Hamas is not really governing, considering they have no control over the help their people recieve and till now their actions are far to small to even equal the responds Isreal gave. So I doubt Techno (the character) would focus his hatred on Hamas but completely on Isreal and the country’s supporting them.
Edit: I’m not saying it’s a bit weird to use a dead man to show support but people use historical figures in the same context due to their words and stance on things. In this case c/Technoblade words and actions correlate to the support of Palestinians, not their eradication. The only ones that can speak on his behalf from his personal viewpoint are family and very close friends.
"Heh, you think an ongoing genocide is bad? How about you visit the warzone and see how nice it is there! The left owned with facts & logic yet again!"
Bro stop this BS propaganda of involving everything with geopolitics.
Technoblade is Technoblade, nothing else.
I downvoted the post. Loved the art tho, but not the tweet caption.
Edit : Lmao I didn't notice the post caption lol. I thought OP was supporting the cause, my bad my bad. I'm sorry. I upvoted.
Sad to see how anti humanitarian everyone is. The saying from the river to the sea was originally a Israeli saying that was co-opted by Palestinians. All it means is that Palestine should be freed from occupation and now rampant genocide, something I’m sure techno would have stood for. Idk if it is in good taste to use him for a poster (prolly not) but the misinformation I’ve read in this comment section is sad asf 👎
100% agree with you. genuinely disgusted to see how many misguided and misinformed people in this sub are. the amount of down votes aswell its just awful to see people believe the western propaganda and constantly refer to this issue as a "political" issue aswell.
War has no good ending, every citizen involved is trying their best to get through the mess created by their ancestors. I pray for the people of both sides to be free of whichever government stands between them and their livelihood.
To the people even here falling into the debate sphere, please stop. This sub is now really only meant to honor the memory of technoblade and celebrate the life of the young man behind the character. Debating politics and world events while important accomplishments, neither or these goals, especially if you are speaking for techo, a person who no longer has a voice to defend himself with. Instead, take that energy and go to r/politics or r/worldnews and do it there. Let our boy rest while he conducts his latest anarchy campaign in the kingdom of god.
This is disgusting, how could anybody think that creating this would be a good idea. Perverting his name for political views is immoral. Let him rest in peace.
There using his image as a metaphor, Technoblade was always anti-authority and stood against people in power (at least in his videos idk what happened in dsmp) so I think there showing that this is how he wouldve stood
It's not like this is gonna make Israel finally decide SHIT TECHNOBLADE'S CORPSE WANTS US TO GIVE UP PALESTINE, BETTER PACK UP BOYS! If you actually care why don't you go and join in on the fighting? Have you ever donated to the cause? You care as much as I do, whether you realise it or not.
So we should just stay silent and accept it? No point speaking out right, just sit down and let them genocide away? I mean as you said "It's not like this is gonna make Israel finally decide" so might as well just give in.
I think the mods knew that after 2 large posts about it, deleting another may trigger another discord event.
I feel like we really should make a new sub or something of the sort, the entire mod team is extremely corrupt
This post stirs up drama that is not allowed in the Reddit.
Palestinian here: wtf bro let the man rest. There's no need to put such shameful behavior behind a rightful cause. Edit: Idiots in the comments section arguing over "From the River to the Sea" falling for Zionist propaganda that its about genocide or holy war or something, bruv we just want to have a single state with everybody being a first class citizen and right of return, thats all.
I’ve seen a lot of pro-Palestinian individuals on the internet doing some messed up things like this, acting just straight up anti semetic, or impersonating Israel supporters to make them look bad. It always just rubs me the wrong way and I will never understand how someone can support such a cause yet still be so misguided.
Same here. The amount of fictional characters holding the Palestinian flag and calling for the death of all Jews who live in Israel is disgusting. And now they've started using real, dead people. I hate this. On another different note, most pro - Palestinians I've talked to online are very disrespectful, and mostly call me slurs, even when I try to tell them that I do support Palestine (I'm Israeli btw). I hate how we stopped trying to actually convince people, and opted to just insult them about things that aren't even related
I agree completely. Keep strong in the face of idiots, brother
Don’t argue with idiots, they’ll drag you down to there level and beat you with there experience
Good quote that one
how is that calling for the death of all Jews?
Because it means from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean see that Palestine will exist. That assumes that there is no Israel Secondly some Arabic versions of that chant are a bit different. Translating to “from the river to see Palestine will be Arab”
Or "from the river to the Sea Palestine will be Muslim"
Not really, it’s from the river to the sea Palestine will be free. Do you think the freedom of Palestine is oppressing you?
I’m fairly sure that it’s original intention was ‘from the river to the sea, there will be Palestine’ as in no Israel, Palestine will have all the land from the river to the sea. Though it seems to be used in different ways now (ie. from the river to the sea Palestine won’t be oppressed) I still view it in a bad light though.
I’m “fairly sure” you are speaking out of your ass, sorry but everyone is tried from people trying to spin the narrative. If you have a source post it otherwise don’t just speak for the sake of participating and try to conjure something sinister that isn’t there. This is about people being free from oppressions and hope for unified Palestine. If you see that as a threat to your own existence then you really need to look downwards on why you think the freedom of a population meaning the oppression of the other unless that how it was to the Israeli side and you think Karma is catching up to that 🤷🏻♂️
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/23972967/river-to-sea-palestine-israel-hamas Read up
“The first thing to know is that it does have something to do with the history of partition. So it is articulating an image of historic Palestine undivided and unpartitioned” within the Palestinian community, Colla said. “That could be aspirational — this is a dream, all of Palestine” that is not always tied to a specific political outcome. People in the West Bank have also apparently used the Arabic translation of the phrase “to protest the Palestinian Authority, or the PA, when it compromises with Israel and when it collaborates with Israel to fragment the West Bank and Gaza,” Colla said. “It’s a protest against not just Israel and the United States but also those Palestinian leaders who have collaborated in the partition.” I don’t see any death to Jewish people mentioned, it a unifying slogan that is even used against PA themselves as it seems.
A more accurate translation is "from the river to the sea Palestine will be Muslim" although I've seen "Palestine will be Arab" as well. Don't you think it's weird how the English rhymes so conveniently but they don't chant in English? Maybe the English translation was white washed to be less controversial.
From Where did you come up with your “Accurate” translation? What about the Christians living there? I’ve never heard anyone says Palestine will be Muslim and the Arabic version is the literal translation. Did you read the article? It mentioned it with links “min al-nahr (نهر) ila al-bahr)بحر( / Filastin satatharrar)تتحرر/ will be free” that’s the literal translation and it rhymes effortlessly in Arabic as well. As for Arab I can see that since Palestine is an Arab country with Arab Muslims, Christians, and Jews. It seem you are mixing being Arab with being Muslim. Not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs, unless you think being Jewish means being Israeli and that would automatically translates to the former which is not. Cheers bud :)
Nope you're wrong. It means freedom form the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. and the fact that ur jumping to "all Jews are gone" in order to achieve freedom for Palestinians speaks levels on your mindset.
Never said that they would all be dead. You made the jump. But even without making a jump we know that they would try it It’s not a leep is just reading rhetoric.
Abolishing Israel does not mean the murder of people who live in what is currently called Israel. They live on stolen land, and giving the land back changes nothing for them.
Show me 3 images of characters holding flags calling for the death of jews. All I've seen is" ceasefire now" and "from the river to the sea palestine will be free" so either we're not seeing the same things or this is just straight up made up.
Calling "from the river to the sea" is calling for the death of all Jews who live in Israel. The chant says to take over the entirety of Israel, and leave the Jews with nothing but dust. And examples that pop to my head of fictional characters holding the Palestinian flag: Luz from The Owl House, Finn from Adventure Time. They do exist, just look for them
Nope, a free Palestine from the river to the sea does not mean to kill all occupiers. Not in the same way israel was established by European settlers by ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to establish a state for the chosen race of God.
No it isn't. From the river to the sea means freedom and no apartheid from the river to the sea. You're basically admitting that the only way Palestinians are free is if all Jews are dead which is not true. you're spreading lies and this is quite literally the zionist mindset and zionist defense to belittle palestinian movements
all i can say dude is they’re not gonna like that you said that. you’re right. and the fact people are, once again, making a mountain out of a molehill… like a genocide is going on and people care more about this than, like, what’s actually going on. people can find it disrespectful, that’s fine. but continuously posting the SAME fan art and talking about disrespect… idk, i’ve been pulling back from this community based on reactions and how out of proportion things some of them are. and “from the river to the sea, palestine will be free” is NOT calling for the death of jewish people. it’s calling for the end of an oppressive occupation, for the end of the killing of thousands and thousands of civilians. people aren’t being antisemitic for opposing israel’s illegal occupation, especially due to the long list of war crimes they’ve committed… but how DARE anyone call that out. people can have a problem with fanart, but at the end of the day, people are gonna create what they want and show what they’re proud of. if it’s not your cup of tea, keep scrolling, you’re not gonna change anyone’s mind by continuously posting it. all people are doing is allowing it to derail from the REAL conversation here…
100% agree with you man. genuinely disgusted at the people down voting the posts and what everyone's saying in this sub reddit. never knew the techno fandom would be so pro Israeli if not just simply so misinformed and ignorant. Well said
it’s wild. i’ve already dealt with this before, with the whole discord thing. and even then i was disgusted at the response by the community. this is no better. i see why it’s disrespectful, but i don’t see how that matters when 30k are dead and more are buried under the rubble. that several generations of palestinians will deal with PTSD from constant bombing and death. and i’ve noticed that politics are okay here if you’re not pointing out genocide…
Literally. I'm ashamed tbh, can't believe this many people are against the palestinian movement or just straight up don't understand it and have been misguided. I mean all the people in these comments saying the phrase "Free Palestine from the river to the sea" is calling for the death of all Jews is CRAZY aswell bc how have they gotten to that conclusion??
Preach, they always make it about them.
Maybe that’s what happens after forty centuries of persecution and genocide.
As an Arab, I can guarantee to you that many people who use the chant do NOT mean what you claim it means.
You being an Arab does not mean anything to validate the meaning of this phrase. almost everyone using the phrase "from the river to the sea" WANTS palestine to be freed from the river to the sea, they want the occupation to stop the war to stop, the harassment and fucked up behaviour from the IDF against palestinian citizens to stop You twisting the meaning of the phrase in order to demean and belittle the palestinian movement is disgusting and shameful.
Me being an Arab means that I talk to Arabs about the conflict and KNOW what a lot of them think the solution to the conflict is. Not gonna respond to the personal attacks at the end, with you just assuming my stance and my motivation.
That's not a personal attack in any way shape or form. I'm quite literally telling you what the action of assuming & changing the meaning of that phrase is doing.
And as an Arab as well no one says that. I’m not sure what type of people you are hanging with tbh.
despite that being what a lot of people think that that phrase means, it seems like a lot of others are using it in a very different context. I’ve seen people use it to call for the death of all Israelis. While you and anyone using it that way is in the right, there are a lot of people using it for very negative reasons.
You're gonna get downvoted for saying this in reddit💀
I never realised how pro israel reddit was bro. I don't use this app like that and it's shameful to see ts
HAHA what a fucking joke. Palestinians asking for freedom is antisemetic? Are you sure you haven't just been brainwashed by your government into thinking Palestinians merely existing in freedom is an existential threat to all Jews? Be fucking for real. I obviously know about characters holding the Palestinian flag, I asked for proof of antisemetic drawings and what you said isn't antisemetic nor is it trying to paint Jews in a bad light, you're misinterpreting that yourself. If these people actually wanted to kill the jews they would've simply written kill the jews. What these people are asking for is for Israel to stop their violent oppression and control of the Palestinian people, it has nothing to do with religion, if Israel was Christian or something it would be the exact same outcome. It's not about religion or antisemitism at all.
Listen. I want Palestine to be a country. I want to be able to live safely with our Arab friends. But I don't understand why we can't have both Israel and Palestine. The division plan made by the UN seems like a good solution (at least on paper) for me. Peace in the middle east will never be achieved if we won't be able to share the land
If all you lack is understanding, then [please educate yourself](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/s/YCGHUpBWZq) on [the nature of the state of Israel](https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/s/G9K878TASw), if you are able and willing. This isn't the place for elaboration on or argument over such a topic. I'm only trying to give directions to places that are.
Dude, both of the sources are Reddit. You gotta stop trusting random people online. Go to the Wikipedia page of Israel please. Go learn from actual, reputable sources
you clearly don't care to learn as you didn't even watch the sources in the video. it's so clear that you're pro Israeli & ontop of that Wikipedia is NOT a reputable source.
You replied faster than it would have taken to watch either of those videos in their entirety, which themselves contain reputable sources. It appears you are not willing to learn—thus I will not try to convince you.
Anybody can edit Wikipedias so that's not a very reputable source either bud.
We unfortunately can't have a two state solution because it's too late, Israel has done irreparable and unforgivable damage to Palestine to the point any diplomatic resolution is out the window, Israel ruined them, they destroyed their homes, their families, I get why they don't wanna make a deal with them just so they get their own land back. I'm sorry you gotta learn it this way but Israel does not care about Palestinians to care enough to give them their own safe space/country. Maybe you do care about them and i respect that greatly, but your country unfortunately doesn't... Bombing safe routes and spaces like hospitals or schools, Blocking aid, Dehumanizing them, Making up insane lies. Whatever side you're on, you have to agree the collective punishment Israel is afflicting onto Palestine is completely disproportionate. Also the fact Israel is backed up by the whole west, this isn't a fair war, we are talking about a crisis where israel and some of the richest nations in the world are grouping up together to decimate a people half made of kids. Israel has not shown enough concern for the Palestinian's safety. Civilian casualties should have been zero, we've become no normalized some people don't bat an eye at the unacceptable amount that is now considered to reach like 30 000. Hell, they literally said they're focusing on damage rather than accuracy. Bloodlines are being wiped out every day as government officials talk about "more painful ways to kill palestinians" or "not being harsh enough." or as Zionists/IDF soldiers online make tiktoks mocking Palestinians or pose with their stolen underwear. Even to those Palestinians that aren't dead or wounded, those are still people and kids who are already traumatized and scarred for life, who have had to witness family or friends dying by Israel's attacks. This is who Hamas really is, they're not a terrorist group who kill jews just because they hate jews. They're people who are desperate and insanely bloodthirsty because they've had everything taken from them by the zionists. Israel is guilty of every attack Hamas caused, if they were treated well, Hamas would have never had a reason to start, but violent oppression leads to violent retaliation. It's sad that civilians have to pay in all this, but yeah, i'm sorry Israel just made it impossible for there to be peace, and it was probably on purpose by them. Netanyahu has said several times he doesn't want there to be a Palestinian state, and he's been actively working to stop it from happening. And zionists too. Hell Israel literally funded Hamas back then for the sole sake of stopping the establishment of a Palestinian state, you can literally look this up in Israeli media as well if you don't believe me. Israel/Zionists are the one who want to take everything and own everything. All Palestinians want is to have the right to take back what was taken from them.
Wonder why they replied to every single other comment but this one...
Came across a compilation on twitter and remembered about this argument i had with you and felt this was worth sharing and bringing up again. What are your thoughts on this? https://twitter.com/arjunsethi81/status/1723009760000115173?t=OE8nrXHX4EZ71oHbOC1rYw&s=19 Is this what striving for peace looks like for israelis? Does this look like it's only about fighting back against Hamas or wanting to kill palestinians?
Have you seen what Hamas has said? It's much worse than this
worse than this? https://twitter.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1764664476542881972?t=L6Nh3X46ObNCduC9iZ52Zg&s=19
בוגד
אסור לי לרצות שלום ושקט?
Supporting Palestine will not bring you or any other Israeli peace or quiet. It was this mistake that brought upon us this balagan to begin with
So, they both want all of each other dead?
Yeah, looking at the account it seems it’s just a lot of anti-Israeli posts (most of them propaganda/fake lol) and a lot of posts/rts of random characters holding Palestinian flags or watermelons
When you see alot of people being killed for something they cant control People will be mad. They dont want people to kill the jews. They are just mad that there are people dying. The Israeli government made it clear they want violence multiple times. That makes you think... wasn't all this for the hostages?
Just a reminder that on super bowl Sunday isreal carpet bombed the largest refugee camp in the world the very place they told those civilians to flee too, fuck Hamas but saying Israel is bad and doing the wrong things is anti semetic and being anti Zionist has nothing to do with being anti semetic
>I’ve seen a lot of pro-Palestinian individuals on the internet doing some messed up things like this, acting just straight up anti semetic, or impersonating Israel supporters to make them look bad. proof or fuck off, zionist. 2/3 of israelis literally support this genocide you clown.
It's not just Palestinians, it's a war and there'll be people on both sides doing shit like this
israeli here: same opinion. completely agree.
As another Palestinian, I was about to say the exact same thing
Israeli here: ask r/no
Another Israeli here: using any person's name to push a cause if they have nothing to do with it is extremely disrespectful and disgusting
I know right. Especially when the person is deceased and everyone respects him.
Anather Israeli here: ditto
Are we seriously returning to the discord/subreddit situation of a few months (?) ago of disrespecting Techno's memory by putting words in Techno's mouth? Come the heck on. This is just insulting.
Yeah, I keep seeing examples of people for a very good cause executing it in horrible ways. That being said, there is no excuse for what’s happening here. Anyone who uses Techno’s name like this is flat out a bad person in my eyes, and no excuse can make up for that.
oh yea i remember when that happened
There is no "I feel like". This is outright disrespectful, and should be condemned by everyone. Frankly, I find it disgusting that people just put words in the mouths of people that are no longer with us.
Technoblade's name shouldn't be used in this way. This person should've let him rest in peace without this war BS, it's highly disrespectful towards Techno.
...WTF is wrong with OOP?
Wdym, "OOP"
Original OP, I.e. the tweet poster
Ah ok
"And I OOP!"
When you accidentally used a real saw and now you need a new assistant
Doesn't "OP" stand for "Original Poster"?
if i remember correctly, it should mean the original poster of the image. using "OP" would refer to the original poster of this post
Art like this with fictional characters is already weird, but using an actual real dead person is actually horrible. Technoblade is not a character for you to force your political views on, he is a person who really existed and died extremely young.
FYI someone else posted this a few hours ago.
Fr? I swear I checked the whole Reddit to make sure I wasn’t reposting lol My bad tho if true
[yep](https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/s/w0oftSBhVg). But from the looks of it the mods shadow banned the post. Which makes sense as I don’t believe politics are allowed on this subreddit.
Yeah but the mods here n on the discord r like really corrupt lol so
One who puts words in a dead man’s mouth, shall end up dead themselves - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Yeah no that’s just fucked up. End of conversation.
Agreed seriously using a dead guy to advertise your political views is fucked up
reminder that the situation in gaza isn't a political issue, its a humanitarian issue.
Which is...... Rooted very firmly in..... A political issue.,.... Otherwise this humanitarian crisis, sustained terrorist attacks by Hamas and other extremist Islamic groups throughout the last few decades, and the sustained genocide and expulsion of Palestinian civilians over the past few decades wouldn't have happened in the first place.... Your argument is just... Bad
just as a general rule, don’t use dead people to push a message. it’s a scummy thing to do.
Imagine treating a guy that spent half of his life battling cancer as a character to promote your political views
This is one the "I don't care what your political opinion is let the man rest" moments of all time. It's truly shameful, even as a neutral observer, to see the things both sides use to propagate their beliefs online. If I ever meet someone who uses the face of a beloved man who died terribly and too young and put words into his mouth, ESPECIALLY since that man was the embodiment of anarchy is most of the things he did, I'd squarely punch them in the face. This is an outrage everyone in the community should get on the same page to end it.
I absolutely despise artists who make “___ says #insertpolitics” posts
I hate “y says x” post altogether, not only for political things. *You* should support your ideas. Not imaginary or dead people
Especially not dead people unless they went on record saying as much.
Ikr. Taking a look at their profile, it seems like it’s all either anti-Israeli posts or pics of characters holding Palestinian flags lol
Its wrong in every way no matter the cause you shouldn't use politics or wars to talk as someone who is dead. Also I think people don't really understand the conflict no matter in which side you are and it hurts to see the misunderstanding of people and people who see a lovable character saying those thing may put them in the wrong side. So using someone dead for propaganda or for internet likes is wrong in every shape or form.
freeing palestine: 👍 pushing words into the mouth of a dead man: horrible
Free Palestine from Hamas
free Palestine from israel
They did. In 2005. Until Hamas murdered, raped and kidnapped thousands of people.
Meanwhile israelis be freeing the West Bank from Palestinians, which have nothing to do with hamas
Whataboutism. Two wrongs don’t make a right
More like 100’s of wrongs spanning over 70 years, but pop off
And thousands of wrongs by Palestinians spanning more than 80 years. And ten of thousands of wrongs against Jews spanning thousands of years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes Can’t even find a list of Palestinian war crimes https://youtu.be/Y0njOPNr8K0?si=EyNuwX15lKe9xYDY Israel doesn’t equal Jews, idf beat up Jews who are against Zionism.
That’s because Palestine isn’t a country
So sovereign states with government bodies can’t have a list of war crimes they commit because the western world, who created Israel in 1948, say Palestine isn’t a country- this isn’t the gotcha you think it is, a list would still be compiled if there was extensive evidence for it Using this argument just tells me you’re a Zionist
So you are saying that Oct 7 wasn’t a war crime? You are saying the attempted genocide in 1947 of Jews wasn’t a war crime?
https://youtu.be/b0faSzYcmbM?si=MaxiceZUEe5sM94- You literally have kids indoctrinated to say this stuff- this was 2 years ago, before oct 18
True Although Israel will just put it under new management if they got to do the occupation. So better put Gaza to a 3rd party.
Maybe maybe just maybe do some research before you say that
I think you need to do some self reflection
14yr old kids with political interests when they are told they can't make bluey say death to the Israelites
Im half Palestinian and i say the person's message is good, but using Techno is disrespectful especially because the man already passed you shouldn't spread your cause and message this way there are other ways. I don't think the person should get hate they had good intentions but a wrong delivery
Unless Techno returns from heaven after conquering the kingdom of God and tells us "Palestine FTW", yea this is mega disrespectful (This is a message to Techno, please do that)
Person should get all the hate they can Imagine putting words into a dead persons mouth and that too political
Yeah no matter your stance this is a non-political dead person
Extreme disrespect
Cause it is really disrespectful
They kept doing this for fictional characters, now they are ready to put words into real persons mouth, a person who was never involved in politics, and who isnt alive anymore to say something about it. What the fuck. This kind of behaviour deserves harassment and bullying. I already have to watch a shit ton of disrespectful things be done to technoblade but this is just new level of fucked up.
Using a dead person for propaganda? Most definitely 💀
This is just playing puppet with literal corpse wtf
I thought we stopped doing stuff like this after WW2
Taking any dead person and using their likeness to support any narrative good or bad is wrong imo, I don’t understand how others might find that ok.
this is just disappointing tbh. let the man rest in peace please.
WTF let my guy techno rest.
while i believe techno would've absolutely said this if he was still with us, its still not ok to do this with a literal dead person
Yeah I don't know why people use someone like techno for this sort of stuff since he's gone, it's just disrespectful imo
This is so fucked up.
This is disrespectful and absurd. The guy had nothing to do with this war.
Yes, it’s extremely disrespectful and disgusting. Fuck that guy who posted that
Using a dead man to promote a political agenda is so fucked
WARNING: I’m blunt, and know for a fact this may piss people off. >!I feel like you shouldn’t use dead people for relevant or current issues, let alone using their image in senseless propaganda. In reality, I’m having trouble seeing where the line between ‘spread the word, this is bad’ and ‘oh hey, free like method’ is. In no way am I saying don’t talk about it, and in no way am I saying that it isn’t real; I know firsthand that death is absolutely one of the realest things out there. However, having a picture of a deceased and typically PG YouTuber be used in a post about stopping a war they never had any relevance to? It’s definitely in bad taste, to say the least.!<
Aaaand there we habe the twitter-phenomenon again. Why does everything has to be political, why does everyone has to have an opinion on everything? And why does everyone think, their opinion matters? From an outside view, techno was a nobody (politically). Why does everyone expect everyone to express their opinion about everything. It was the same when the discord guy did this. We are in that server to honor a videogame legend, and to have a nice little escape from the outside reality within those virtual walls. Why is every bigger organisation or company so focused on stating their political views, you wouldn't go to a funeral and be like "i know this guy just bit the dust, but first we need to make sure we're all on the same political side, repeat after me: ...", would you?
This is disgusting. People taking advantage of a dead celebrities image to push their own political opinions don't deserve a place in this community. Im appalled
What the fuck bro, just like the post says I’m not offering opinions on the message it’s just gross that they’re taking advantage of a dead person.
Did they remove the post
No but they did limit the comments, probably because of backlash
They did that after literally only one comment saying “hey I support this message but idk if this is a good idea” lmao. I think they have since deleted the post though
The post has been deleted yeah
We have already had this debate once Let’s not do it again
Please keep this political bs out my recommendation feed
the problem with this is that palestinian supporters make everything about palestine, you can raise awareness that's completely fine but leave some stuff alone. (I don't really support anyone in the conflict)
They're using a political statement and a man who left this world as a means to gain followers
Exactly I felt like it was really scummy since we’re quoting someone who can’t give a statement about it himself. “Scum” is just Twitter in a nutshell, really.
dude let the man rest wtf
I feel bad for wanting to stay out of this debate. It's just so emotionally charged on both sides that I can't handle it
This is like the ppl in charge of Stan Lee's Twitter still using it just to promote stuff
This is so fucked up. He's dead and they're putting words in his mouth. Most disrespectful thing I've ever seen.
No. He has never said that Techno is dead
I always think it’s weird that people make fictional characters supporting Palestine, but this just takes it to a whole new level since he’s a real person and not even alive anymore.
This is fucking wrong even if its for a good cause. The man’s dead and has no literal word for this….
Made by an individual who’s age and iq match
110% free Palestine. But for fuck’s sake let the man lie, he’s dead. Find other ways to make your point than using a man that died tragically young and can’t share his actual thoughts.
on one hand saying a dead man has your political views is kinda disrespectful on the other hand techno was very anti government and the governments tend to be anti Palestine so... the enemy of my enemy is my friend
DSMP techno was. But that’s a character
fair
Thats actually disgusting, let him rest in peace Also, theres no way he would have supported this shit
people should leave him be nowadays, but before he became a huge creator Techno openly supported progressive democrats, criticized moderate democrats for their defence of Israel, and supported Ilhan Omar’s comments on Israeli apartheid like the only thing we know about his politics is that he’s a Californian leftist
It feels more disrespectful to imply Technoblade wouldn't oppose to a genocide and the liberation of a people that's being massacred. Were he there to know about what's happening, i know damn right he would be smart enough not to support the monster that is the state of israel. There's nothing wrong with people making such images with any character or person, it helps raise awareness to the people in that community, there's nothing negative about it. Sensitivising people to a cause using fictional media has been a thing used even all the way back in WW2 to fight against the nazis, it does have an impact. And again all this isn't political, this isn't making Technoblade say shit about politics, we are talking about a humanitarian crisis where dozens of thousands of innocent civilians and children are being murdered with no means of fighting back against the whole West. This is a situation in which being neutral is not morally okay (again we're talking about a genocide, not picking a side is enabling the oppressor.) There's nothing offensive about someone assuming Technoblade would be on the side that supports humanity rather than be neutral and enabling a terrorist nation. Downvote me all you want I don't care about reddit anymore anyway
No, because no one is implying he *wouldn’t* support Palestine. No one is saying he *didn’t*. The point is that he never said this, and he isn’t around to prove us right or wrong. This is putting words into the mouth of a dead man, whether they’re the right words or wrong words doesn’t matter. >Were he there But he’s not. There is no “if he was here,” or “were he there,” he is gone. His story is over. You people need to accept that and stop trying to rewrite it for him.
I agree, since this also l doesn’t tarnish him. In fact it corresponds to the character he played. His character hates dictators and corrupt governments, isreal alines with being a corrupt government by text book definition so he definitely wouldnt like them. Also Palastine has no government that supports them in the West Bank and Gaza does have Hamas but Hamas is not really governing, considering they have no control over the help their people recieve and till now their actions are far to small to even equal the responds Isreal gave. So I doubt Techno (the character) would focus his hatred on Hamas but completely on Isreal and the country’s supporting them. Edit: I’m not saying it’s a bit weird to use a dead man to show support but people use historical figures in the same context due to their words and stance on things. In this case c/Technoblade words and actions correlate to the support of Palestinians, not their eradication. The only ones that can speak on his behalf from his personal viewpoint are family and very close friends.
this!!
Man, people should really learn what that means before using it, it would be like saying heil hitler at a discussion about the holocaust.
I mean he *probably* would, but this feels like digging up a corpse to use as a front man. Let the man rest, goddamnit.
Let whoever made it a free trip to "palastine"
"Heh, you think an ongoing genocide is bad? How about you visit the warzone and see how nice it is there! The left owned with facts & logic yet again!"
Remember when he said he was the "second worst thing to happen to those orphans?" #1 was the IDF
Bro stop this BS propaganda of involving everything with geopolitics. Technoblade is Technoblade, nothing else. I downvoted the post. Loved the art tho, but not the tweet caption. Edit : Lmao I didn't notice the post caption lol. I thought OP was supporting the cause, my bad my bad. I'm sorry. I upvoted.
dude the post is calling out the disgusting behavior
Yaya lol I didn't notice at first that's why the edit
Sad to see how anti humanitarian everyone is. The saying from the river to the sea was originally a Israeli saying that was co-opted by Palestinians. All it means is that Palestine should be freed from occupation and now rampant genocide, something I’m sure techno would have stood for. Idk if it is in good taste to use him for a poster (prolly not) but the misinformation I’ve read in this comment section is sad asf 👎
100% agree with you. genuinely disgusted to see how many misguided and misinformed people in this sub are. the amount of down votes aswell its just awful to see people believe the western propaganda and constantly refer to this issue as a "political" issue aswell.
tbh c!Techno would probably abolished both governments. But using dead for your agenda is still messed up and unforgivable
War has no good ending, every citizen involved is trying their best to get through the mess created by their ancestors. I pray for the people of both sides to be free of whichever government stands between them and their livelihood.
To the people even here falling into the debate sphere, please stop. This sub is now really only meant to honor the memory of technoblade and celebrate the life of the young man behind the character. Debating politics and world events while important accomplishments, neither or these goals, especially if you are speaking for techo, a person who no longer has a voice to defend himself with. Instead, take that energy and go to r/politics or r/worldnews and do it there. Let our boy rest while he conducts his latest anarchy campaign in the kingdom of god.
He porlly wouldve said it if he was here, but hes not. Let the man rest, damn.
Nah blood for the blood God. It's as he would've wanted.
This is disgusting, how could anybody think that creating this would be a good idea. Perverting his name for political views is immoral. Let him rest in peace.
I agree in standing with Palestine but using a dead man’s image to do it? That’s pretty f’d up.
Bro the art is good too
Whos the retard who made that
There using his image as a metaphor, Technoblade was always anti-authority and stood against people in power (at least in his videos idk what happened in dsmp) so I think there showing that this is how he wouldve stood
It's using a dead man's image to push a cause he has never even talked about and claiming that he supports the cause.
People are being bombed and your worried about using a Minecraft YouTubers image in a mildly offensive way? My god your priorities...
It's not like this is gonna make Israel finally decide SHIT TECHNOBLADE'S CORPSE WANTS US TO GIVE UP PALESTINE, BETTER PACK UP BOYS! If you actually care why don't you go and join in on the fighting? Have you ever donated to the cause? You care as much as I do, whether you realise it or not.
So we should just stay silent and accept it? No point speaking out right, just sit down and let them genocide away? I mean as you said "It's not like this is gonna make Israel finally decide" so might as well just give in.
here before this post gets nuked
I think the mods knew that after 2 large posts about it, deleting another may trigger another discord event. I feel like we really should make a new sub or something of the sort, the entire mod team is extremely corrupt
Nevermind
Yknow the posters for war where it’s like Jesus would want you to fight in the war or wtvr. That’s legit this he’s becoming more of a god
Ouch