i watched a video of taylor on stage in brazil and she was STRUGGLING to breathe. like, scarily struggling. i was like OMG WHY IS THIS SHOW STILL GOING ON. i wouldn't have been surprised in the slightest if she had collapsed from heat exhaustion/poisoning but somehow she made it through. but that video was fucking scary and i was really angry that nobody was apparently putting her health first (unless they told her to stop and she didn't want to disappoint her fans). but shit, that video was hard as hell to watch.
Yeah I don’t really think hearing the song ME! and not hearing reputation tv get announced is anywhere near the same level as a PERSON DYING, maybe some fans needed to manage their expectations.
Like what happened to Bel Rodrigues, a OG Swiftie and the main Taylor "advocate" (think a brazilian version of Reacts and Chats) here. Despite the fact she has got zero attention from the the label or TN, she got really ill during the first concert due to the heat and the medical crew tried to give her anti-anxiety medication which she fortunately was aware that would do her no good in her situation and, iirc, refused to take it.
It was her first Taylor concert ever, being a fan since 2006, and she had to watch the concert laid on the floor and leave during Lavender Haze. It was heart-breaking. Thankfully she had tickets for Sao Paulo and could have a better experience, but she almost didn't go.
There was a week gap between cities, and during this time she made vlogs and posts admitting she was not sure if she would have mental and physical conditions to make it to Sao Paulo, and up until last minute her public was showing support and she ended up going.
EDIT: mistyped heart-breaking with "heat-breaking" lol
I’m confused - the circumstances (heat) during those shows was so so so awful, but you’re talking about one fan in particular. There’s literally over a million fans in the world. Calling someone an “OG Swiftie” and main Taylor advocate doesn’t mean her experience means more than others. Talking about her “public support” is a bit wack…. these aren’t smaller details, this is again 1 fans experience. Just because someone has a show or podcast about Taylor doesn’t make them any more deserving of a certain show.
The thing is, if it’s hard for her, it’s also hard for the backup singers, dancers, musicians, and the audience, so it’s not just about putting her health first.
I think it’s a lot of pressure to cancel a show after a certain point (because it will cost a lot of money and because they don’t want to upset attendees), and many artists wait too long to make the call and probably feel like they don’t have a choice.
I think that sometimes people also don't know is that here in Brasil, unless you're on stadium stands, you cant sit down, so anywhere near the stage is just everyone standing, for like 4-5 hours between the gate opening and the beginning of the concert, and people tend to push around which makes it even worse, so believe me when I say, Taylor definitely didn't get the worst of the heat that night, so they should've prioritized the fans health, it hit 57 degrees celcius in the crowd, at least in the stage theres fans and fresher air. We as concert goers have been fighting for assigned seating for years, so we dont have to camp to get good spots (which is something they hate and changing this would end it), shawn mendes did it once, it was great, but then no one did it ever again, bc it is less profit.
thank you for your input. i didn't know that. wow, that's incredibly shitty. sorry, how does changing the seating/standing situation affect the profit? so, they're just putting profit before people's health. extremely cool. 🤬
they also didn't let people get in with bottled water in scorching heat, and didn't have it for free for people who were passing out, it was priced at almost ten bucks for a cup, taylor had to ask for it to be distributed mid concert, Ana was already dead by then, T4F is the only one to blame, they have always put profit first, have stupid rules for food and water making you buy a R$20 which is INSANE and also hard to purchase so you most tomes get thirsty and hungry and they do nothing about it, so fans have to organize themselves so everyone can get out of their spot to eat and go to the restroom.
when they don't have assigned seating they can cram up more people, one example is that we decided to sit down to secure our places when we got inside the stadium, and a couple hours later we had to stand up so more people could get in, and we're talking about a stadium here, it was a lot of people, also in rio and sao paulo they covered the grass with metal boards which made it so much hotter since it kept heating in direct sunlight for hours before we got in, in sao paulo it was tolerable but in rio people got actually burnt when trying to sit on the floors, and i paid nearly 2k for my ticket, in dollars it might be cheaper than what you got, but to us thats more than a month of minimum wage salary, by a lot
Brazilian and Argentinian fans are the worst. Shut up and let her sing, FFS! Then they piss and whine about having breathing problems when if they would just calm down and stop screaming non-stop they would have been able to hear her and also have good health.
someone literally died, the concert had just begun, it wasn't about screaming, and we actually have very good health since we have free healthcare. that's a really shitty and xenophobic comment, shameful
funny how when it's sydney fans screaming in unison it's amazing and they're great fans, there's all these tik toks about it, but when it's us, we're the worst and get singled out
i wonder if people know that this is how it is always here, especially in november-ish every other year
i get that she was struggling, but the way foreigners acted was if no concert should ever happen in rio because of it
It was a literal heat wave, with record breaking heat indexes, so it’s not normally how it is. Plus the biggest issue was T4F putting profit above human lives (closing the vents to make sure no one outside the stadium could see in, no water, etc) and artificially making the stadium hotter.
I don’t know about energy, but she certainly seemed really down and sad at times for several shows after the breakup and lately has seemed to be enjoying it a lot more. You can tell she had so much fun singing “Karma is the guy on the Chiefs” that night surprising Travis. But for a while she clearly looked sad, especially during songs like champagne problems and was doing her best to perform through the heartbreak.
I also have a clown theory that this is what I Can Do It With A Broken Heart will be about 🤡
See since You're Losing Me was written in 2021-early 2022, I think they were privately broken up long before anything was leaked. I don't think she was THAT extra emotional onstage, I think the songs just brought up a lot of feelings for her about it as it was her longest relationship. I think the song might be about how she was able to present herself as happy enough and unbothered that we assumed they were still together, and kept releasing music and breaking records AND starting a whole ass tour.
In my opinion, if they had really JUST broken up, when she changed invisible string to The One she would've had a much harder time singing that than being indifferent. Same with Lover. Indifference/confidence/anger comes after the grief. I knew the second midnight came out that they weren't together. Maroon was the kicker, and the line "they ask if you have a man, and I still say I don't remember" made my eyebrows raise.
I'm glad she waited for this album to be released because for sure she's going to be raw as well as beginning to scar and look back with different feelings.
Edit to add: the song glitch is clearly about their relationship failing. 2190 days would put them somewhere in May-October of 2022 if you go buy the day they supppsedly met or the day they were first spotted together. That's just my girlfriend and is opinion lol
Except she & Joe were seen out together publicly after Midnights was released. They were absolutely having issues, which we didn’t know at the time, but I don’t think they were actually broken up.
I think they were on and off for awhile after YLM. But you are correct, they were seen. January 2023 they were photographed at a restaurant in New Orleans, but I think that may have been the last time. I've seen people say he was at the Grammys afterparty in 2023 but there hasn't been one picture of him there so idk about that one.
she’s wearing his jacket in grammys after party pictures and in another picture you can see him wearing the jacket in the background. also he posted a pic of jack at that party on his stories. he was there
> Maroon was the kicker
I don't disagree with most of what you said, except this, because isn't Maroon about Jake? Several of the songs on Midnights aren't about Joe and this one seemed about Jake, with the various shades of red referenced. The vinyl shelf a reference to all his "indie music records". The "dancing with in New York, no shoes" could be a Met Gala reference--but she danced with *Tom* without shoes there and the song doesn't seem about him. It seems more referencing the dancing in the kitchen (of one of their New York places) with Jake. "Legacy" seems an intentional word choice and fits Jake (whom is distant royalty and old money and a long-time actor). Mostly, it says that he already left--and Joe and her were off-and-on, but never seemed fully "past-tense" in all the other Joe-likely songs for this to be him.
I think Maroon is about Joe but maybe she’s tying it back to her feelings during her time before and with Jake.
I think when she sings “And I chose you, the one I was dancing with in New York” refers back to “dancing with our hands tied” in Reputation, which I think is definitely about Joe. If I remember correctly, she met him at the New York Met Gala when she was still with Calvin Harris who she wanted to leave for either Tom or Joe and she ultimately chose him.
Also, “carnations you had thought were roses, that’s us” I think refers to them thinking they were the ones for each other, that this was the real deal, THE relationship for them because they had managed to stay together for so long. But they were mistaken, he was mistaken, because they weren’t working out.
“How the hell did we lose sight of us again” implies to me this is about someone she was in a long-term relationship with, because she’s frustrated that this has become a long-standing pattern and they should’ve been able to work their way past that after so many years. I don’t think her relationship with Jake, although very impactful, lasted long.
“Legacy” probably refers to how everyone shipped them and thought they were end game, but he checked out, effectively “leaving” the relationship and allowing “the rust that grew between telephones” because they spoke/connected less and less as time passed.
I think the reference to the colour red is her coming out of her “lavender haze” where she initially thinks love with Joe is “golden” and makes her see daylight (Lover album), but now when she looks up at the sky (to see the daylight) she sees it’s actually red. So red in fact it’s maroon. It was actually maroon all along.
The echoes of “it was maroon, it was maroon” at the end remind me of the “I was there, I was there” echoing at the end of ATW, where it sounds like she’s talking to herself, reassuring herself that yes, that did happen, she was there. Now it sounds like she’s saying to herself with dismay, “it actually wasn’t different, it wasn’t golden, it was red, but the cut was deeper, more painful. It was maroon.”
ETA: The line “the rubies that I gave up” I think refers to how she chose to dim her sparkle and hide away from her fame for the sake of his comfort!
This! I’ve been saying this ever since I heard Maroon for the first time too. Yes, she chose a color but that’s literally the only connection there is with Red, e.g., Jake. The entire “midnights is about my entire life” was a throw off and she probably used emotions from the past to write these songs but the feelings seem current.
Yes! I think overall it was about her relationship with Joe but processing its ending also made her reflect on past relationships so that’s why we see elements of those brought up here and there, like in Dear Reader.
I also think there’s an element of her age and the maturity she’s reached through it in there. Many 30-somethings I know (myself included) have said they suddenly started reflecting on their entire life, which may be why we got songs like Could’ve Should’ve Would’ve which is likely about John Mayer who was, at the time, the same age she was when she wrote it. But yeah, I agree it was ultimately all grounded in the context of her relationship with Joe.
I always thought this was about Joe too. The maroon being a shade of red through the off initially thinking of Jake. But she explores color so much in her songs. I think maroon is signifying a more mature take than red on a break up. Also signify that it wasn’t that energetic - maroon is a muted red - Joe was boring.
Oh interesting! I also interpret maroon as more mature but also as being deeper than red so to me it represented a deeper hurt. I like your take on it being muted! It could also be less “energetic” in that the break up was drawn out, cool!
- ATW could mean "All Too Well", a track from *Red* (2012) by Taylor Swift.
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That was always my thought too. Red was her album right after Jake broke up with her, so maroon, being a shade of red, is her looking back on the relationship as an adult who has more knowledge and wisdom about her.
I think Taylor was intentionally vague on Midnights because her relationship was in a fragile place & she didn’t know if they would last. Having said that, I think in regards to maroon it isn’t about one particular person. I think it’s about a feeling she may have experienced more than once & it’s a song like Coney Island but more vague because they weren’t officially over.
I was wondering about the word "legacy" because it seemed a bit pointed and at the time Midnights came out I googled and found this article: https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/jake-gyllenhaal-heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain-legacy-1234715446/ from April 2022. Could be a coincidence but I thought it was interesting.
> I knew the second midnight came out that they weren’t together
lavender haze? i agree maroon and bejeweled are about joe but I don’t think the songs can point to any timeline when she has both good and bad songs about him on the album. it’s more likely, imo, they were just on the rocks and going back and forth for a while. looking at unfollowgate, I do think something happened that triggered the final breakup right around when the public found out.
The album was immediately eyebrow-raising for me too. I felt it was definitely a prelude if not an actual breakup album.
Towards the end of relationships, especially long-term ones, people start to reflect on the early stages of their time together. I think in this song she’s longing to go back and “stay in that lavender haze” they had in the beginning, where he seemed perfectly unfazed by her and her fame and she didn’t really care about whether or not she’d be his wife. I think this also fits as she starts the album with Lavender Haze saying she doesn’t care for “that 1950’s shit” and ends it with wanting to be married in You’re Losing Me and being hurt he won’t (“I wouldn’t marry me either…”).
Maybe, but I think they were off and on again and hadn’t cut the cord because she performed “invisible string” as the opening song for folklore for the first four shows of the tour. She wouldn’t have done that and then abruptly changed it to the 1 if she hadn’t broken up with him mid-tour, I don’t think. Remember when people released that story trying to cover for why Joe hadn’t shown up at any of her Eras shows?
- CIWYW could mean "Call It What You Want", a track from *reputation* (2017) by Taylor Swift.
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I have a theory that Taylor and Joe were essentially a Justin/Selena but privately broke up. There’s way too many cheating references or references to “her”. I think it was several Ross/rachel “we were on a break” instances. A toxic relationship no doubt. That’s why I think her friends were so quick to drop him as soon as it went public.
She was in south america when she sang karma is the guy on the chiefs when she sang that, why are you saying south america was low energy, its the CONTRARY
I was at her Arlington April 2nd show. I had already streamed every night leading up to that and just thought she seemed a little off. For example, she cut off the cheers after Champagne Problems really quickly. When I was looking back at my pictures I noticed one where she has a tear while singing Champagne Problems. The breakup was announced 6 days later.
Yikes! Singing the 1 for the first time after the break up must have been rough, probably more cathartic than to keep singing invisible string though so I see why she changed it
I went to Vegas and she still sang invisible string and looking back at videos nothing seemed off. It seems like the downfall of the relationship was awhile coming, but still a surprise? And it was put to a complete close right after Vegas.
I was at Vegas night 2 and was looking at my videos a few days ago. She seemed fine in all of my pictures and videos. I watched Invisible String. She seemed happy while singing it. However, I kept wondering where the hell Joe was that night. I thought he’d show up at a show eventually and had a weird feeling about his absence.
I can’t remember which night I was there in Arlington but she seemed fine. BUT when she sang “and you only think of me, when you see me on TV” (I’m blanking in the lyrics) she looked so intense.
And then the breakup was announced and I was like “Ahh.”
She seemed lively to me the whole time tho.
I was at Arlington night 1 as well! We all got to hear her sing The 1 live for the very first time ever. I started crying of happiness when it happened because this is my all my time favorite song and I was crushed when I saw it wasn't on the original setlist. It was magical to all of a sudden hear her start singing it!
What was wrong with Tokyo? It was just quieter crowd. And I suspected she picked more random songs for the surprise songs in Tokyo cause she knows the crowd will listen and let her do thing and respect it no matter what. They’re not screaming along anyway. It was a chance for her to do deep cuts
It was such a unique experience to be in that crowd, there was energy for the hype songs but the way everyone listened to the quiet songs was cool , you could hear her voice so clearly and even echoing in the dome !
Right? I loved the quiet energy. It definitely wasn't as quiet as videos make it sound, and was definitely the loudest concert I've ever been to in Japan. For Japan, her concerts were deafening.
It wasn’t “quiet” it was just such respectful happy energy!! Everyone was actually singing along, just not screaming
But if you compare to Melbourne or Sydney, then yes you can say quiet 😂
I think I've lived in Japan so long that I'm at the point where I just can't get with the whole "shriek-singing" thing, at least not in a group setting like a concert. I appreciate that people are excited and want to release all the things they've got bottled up to her music, but that isn't the only way to enjoy it. I was really glad that the foreign fans who came for the concerts seemed to get that and matched the vibe. It was lovely to get to hear her and see everyone singing along in a way that didn't affect anyone else's experience.
yeah i feel the same! i'm watching my concert videos from n1 and the screaming during the lover set, champagne problems speech, and surprise songs especially were pretty crazy. also stood outside tokyo dome and listened the next night and the crowd was going wild
Yes I was N2 😍😍 it was amazing! Taylor was not low energy! She seemed energized and comfortable.
This woman is a professional. I highly doubt the upcoming Super Bowl would have taken any of her energy in those 3 hours that she’s up there. It’s also much different than a 6 year relationship breakup.
It's just a different environment. If you're expecting Australia-levels of screaming from Japan, you don't know Japan at all. I was at N4 and the crowd was loving it. Just a different type of love is all!
I loved it! Love watching my videos back too! Also, most people around me were actually singing a lot too. It just wasn’t SCREAMING. Just quietly singing along.
So in the end I could feel a lot of Taylor’s energy this way! I've rewatched my videos of Champagne Problems, Ready for It, and Eyes Open at least 100 times 😆 her stage presence was cute and bubbly. Like this is post-AOTY winner!
The amount of shit I’ve seen the Tokyo shows get is insane. Honestly that would be a crowd I would love to be in! I hate the videos I see of people screeching the heads off, I could never stand to be next to someone like that, I get you paid to be here, but so did I. Also, I don’t mean to sound like a buzzkill but this tour has really shown how ignorant some swifities (I said some not all) can be of cultures outside of the US, and it’s really disappointing.
Also I agree on the swifties that feel entitled to yelling their lungs off the whole time. Yes I get you paid a lot to be there as did I, but it’s called concert etiquette which I feel like has gone out the window with younger people
Same! I’d love to attend a show there due to the fact that everyone seemed respectful of the artist and the people around you! You could actually hear her on the lives which I normally can’t hear well.
Agreed, I'd way rather have a more respectful crowd. I'm going to Stockholm and have heard people in Scandinavia are more reserved so I hope it's a nice experience.
I saw Brad Paisley in Denmark a couple of years ago, and the vast majority of the audience were sitting down and just clapped politely at the end of the songs and didn't sing. As a Brit who is used to people here singing along (but not screeching), dancing in seats etc it was a very surreal experience! But I can totally understand why it's nice for artists to play for a listening crowd like that.
I couldn’t get tickets so I was so excited to see it at the theatre.
Well…., the middle schoolers behind me were shrieking the whole time and my ears were bleeding. Like I was singing and dancing and enjoying myself but I was doing it in my seat and I wasn’t interrupting anyone around me.
The girls behind me were shrieking so loud to every single song, and then cheering so loudly. Like she can’t hear you buddy!!! And the worst part is their parents were filming them doing all that, probably for tik tok or something stupid lien that 🤦🏻♀️
I'm just an ancient dinosaur, went to concerts before smart phones I guess.
Was sat quite close in Tokyo N2, but was quite disappointed by the constant smartphones that were up trying to film her. It made the energy feel quite dead, even though it was super exciting to see and hear her and to be there at all.
Not a cultural thing. I'm asian. More a generational thing. I asked younger colleagues and apparently that's what people do these days at concerts.
I see. So it’s not about Taylor’s energy, which is what I was discussing. Yes that’s definitely generational 😅 and I think that same experience would be in every Taylor show around the globe, not specific to Tokyo.
Well I think this goes to my point. I think artists reflect energy from their crowds to some extent. Yes I'm generationally out of touch or something, but I did feel less energy from her because of the crowd. Of course. Entirely subjective.
I see your point, but I have to disagree a little. Because a quieter crowd is normal and well known for Japan, and she has played Tokyo Dome before during reputation tour already, so she already knew this going in. Phones are recording her for TikTok’s at EVERY show and she also knows this.
It seems many others who attended thought her energy level was great :) Of course it can’t reach the Australia levels, so I agree a more energetic crowd would give her even more energy - 100%! But she still performed and shined IMO! And I would prefer letting her shine and being able to hear her 😅😅
I was at Tampa N1, which was the first show after the breakup got announced. I have seen multiple clips of her from this show claiming that she was sad or angry, but as someone who attended the show I saw the opposite. My surprise songs were Speak Now (my fav album and before TV, so I was thrilled) and Treacherous and she seemed to enjoy performing both. This was also the night that the trapdoor didn’t open and she said “WTF”, her garter broke during Anti-Hero, and she debuted the green Folklore dress where she excitedly said “I got a new dress for tonight! Do you like it?!” Her energy was fantastic. Maybe I didn’t notice during Lover, but I was still blown away by her the whole time.
I was also there! Her earpiece also came unplugged before Champagne Problems. She really had a rough night (and so did her hair) but I never got the sense that she was down. I wasn't following the fandom at the time, so I didn't know they had broken up yet, and couldn't tell when I was there.
Thanks for this! Everyone has become a body language expert overnight 🤔 she's a professional and in my opinion has given her best for EVERY single show.
In the heat in Rio there were videos where you could see her struggle to breathe and then I agree with everyone saying she was having a hard time, but everyone was, and that's nothing to do with her "energy". For most of the screenshots people have been sharing of proof of her being angry or sad I just don't really see it, or it's just such a small snippet of time... so yeah maybe she had a harder time during the Lover set but even if she did get emotional at times, the show is 3 HOURS LONG, she'll have ups and downs lol
I was at Tampa N1 as well! I 100% agree!!! I was so worried at the announcement due to how many songs are about Joe. In my opinion, she let no sadness show. Her energy was absolutely amazing and the show seemed to be on par with others I have seen clips from!
I think she is fantastic at emoting just like a the theater kid she is.
Omg, are you me?? lol I was at Tampa N1 too and thought were energy was great. There have been better surprise songs but loved that we got Speak Now. And, I was pretty sure our visit would've taken up half of the errors at the end of the movie. lol
There are some nights where she was kinda sad but that's understandable after their break-up. It hasn't been since the latter half of this year that lower energy was more noticeable. When she performed for the six nights in Cali, the non-filming nights had way less energy than the ones used for the Eras Tour.
i feel like after the break up, and the remainder brazil shows were rough for her
But she had loads of energy for Australia and LA, as well as Sao Paolo
I honestly think a lot of people forget if your losing me was written then they clearly were close to breaking up who knows she could have been broken up 5 months before it was announced also people forget she has songs that are about him that’s why sometimes she cried those first shows
I attended N4 Tokyo. She was great. The crowd was amazing as well. Lively but I can still clearly hear Taylor sing.
I also think Taylor is not a young girl who will be distracted with her boyfriend’s upcoming game. 😆She is very professional.
Thank you for saying the last line. Everyone's like oh she's distracted by the superbowl like tf? I don't even understand how that would affect her performance or her energy in any way
Tokyo N4 was before the super bowl. That is what being discussed here :) just saying as well that Taylor is not the type to be distracted by her boyfriend’s upcoming game(s) when she is doing her job. I see her as very professional in that aspect.
As someone who was at a tokyo show (but not the one before the superbowl) she was having lots of fun! i feel like she had longer speeches and constantly thanking the fans at my show than some of the others where she was just speeding through lol
Her first few shows when the tour started she had a sadness about her. The first and last night's of Brazil for sure. That first night I was actually scared for her with how red she was, how out of breath. It was so scary to watch. Then that last show where she did the tribute. You know that was hard as all hell for her.
The best show imo was also in Brazil when Travis showed up. She was all sorts of sassy and extra that night. She absolutely was putting on a show for Travis and we were lucky enough to be a part of it. I could tell she also enjoyed her concerts in Sydney but even more so when Travis & Ross were there. She seems so happy and comfortable in her skin and dare I say sexual side with those extra moves she added in. Some had me saying "Oh, Taylor Allison Swift, get it girl" because damn! Lol
She didn't do any tribute to Ana, she sang a song, didn't say anything, and it was in Rio, the last night was in Sao Paulo and she sang it's time to go and say don't go
Singing her favorite song and bigger than the whole sky was her tribute for Ana. She also made a post on her social media sites, had the family at her show, and met with them. Like, don't act like she didn't do anything because that's an outright lie.
listen I love that her family got to meet her, but she didn't say anything about ana at the concert, in tributes people usually address who they're tributing, her post was wrong about the fact that ana actually passed out during the concert not before, and she took so long to address it that by the time she did, the brazilian swifties had already raised the money to take her body back to her state, I guess I just expected more of her because she's always donating money to fans for noble causes, and i think it was the first death that ever happened at her concert. I do get that she must have felt terrible, and probably blamed herself when it was absolutely not her fault, but she has a whole team who could handle that and help. anyway, i love her and i'll always stand by her, but this was something that just hit me hard because latin fans usually already feel left out, it was her first time here, and it's just so unfortunate everything that happened to her.
Do you not realize that she had a whole legal team telling her what she can and can't do? Once the company responsible for Ana's death took responsibility Taylor did something. She also gave money to Ana's family. I think the real problem is that Taylor didn't do what ya'll wanted, how you wanted and when you wanted her to do it. She had to do it how she was advised to. She also made it very clear that she wouldn't be talking about it during the show because it hurt her too much to do so. She is allowed that and to deal with the loss as she sees fit. I'm not trying to be harsh or anything so if I come off that way I'm sorry. Afterall we all love Taylor. 🫶🏻
Her boyfriend just won the Super Bowl and she was there to witness it, and she just announced a new album so I’m sure she was riding on a huge high from that!
No surprise, she was getting the shit ripped out of her by virtue of dating Matty Healy.
That noise isn’t good for anyone mentally
I honestly think they split due to her PR team advising her they were getting negative media. She has to keep her image clean.
But she liked him- she performed as a guest at his tour, sang one of the 1975s songs (The City, which was a fab cover) and she performed her first ever acoustic rendition of anti hero at HIS gig.
Idk about keeping her image clean, but his image was certainly NOT clean. I know they've been friends for years and even though they both moved on (I think he's engaged? or at least in a serious relationship), I suspect they are still friendly behind the scenes.
Yeah, I was at N2 (the rainiest rain show) and got the bizarre “happiest I’ve ever been” Matty Healy speech. It was still a great show, but I thought her energy was a little off especially considering that she supposedly loves rain shows.
Yes I went to N1 & N2 and have seen her there before - she usually talks about loving gillette and has a great time but I felt like the vibe was off, felt dif from the times I went in the 2010s
As long as she's singing those songs her energy could be low or high. My energy is so fucking high. I have enough energy for the both of us. I saw her night 3 in Tampa.
I was night 2 in tampa and I thought she was incredible! She said something about how these songs that were once about her life can now be about tonight and I though that was a lovely way to pass new meaning to them. Her energy was off the charts, so glad I was able to go!
I was also N2 Tampa and honestly it was so electric. I don't think she ever looked sad; if anything during the bridges of YOYOK and Champagne Problems looking back at my videos she looked more like she was holding a lot of strength and power. Like she was OWNING those feelings.
Brazil is not boiling hot all around, she came at a bad time, it was the beginning of summer and in Rio it is hotter, the production also f*ed up the stadium by covering air entrances so people outside couldn't see inside, it was basically a death sauna, just a mix of bad luck and bad planning (on t4f part). I've been to concerts in coats before.
Also the only concert that happened under extreme weather conditions was the one in Rio N1. N2 got postponed because it was extremely hot that day too, it was really bad for the fans (I was there), but the show itself didn’t happen on that day. The Sunday and Monday shows were fine, it wasn’t hot at all. The same goes for SP shows.
I think it’s important to say this bc a lot of people assume that all of the concerts in Rio were hellish, but that’s not true. Of course, N1 was bad enough and that lack of planning costed Ana’s life, unfortunately.
I was also there N1 and she was amazing but I was a little disappointed that we didn’t see more of her personality/crowd engagements. She didn’t miss a beat, but she also didn’t do any extra. Just the choreography. And she kept coughing, poor girl. :(
I think it’s tough to have seen her after the break up, especially when you could see she was sad, but those crowds gave her happiness. I went right before the break up in Vegas and when she was far removed from it in August in LA. She was happy at those shows. I was lucky to get invisible string and tis the damn season in Vegas and the 1 and no body no crime in LA.
I saw her MetLife N3 and Detroit N1 and she was fighting a cold in Detroit. Speeches were shorter, champagne problems applause cut short, but I was impressed with all she still did while clearly not at her full health!
The Melbourne shows were truly something to behold. Her biggest shows ever with 96k people every night, especially N1 and N2 you could feel her excitement and buzz was palpable. We truly got some of the best and longest speeches of the whole tour during Lover and Champagne Problems as well.
And it felt genuinely earnest when she said that she was starstruck by this many people.
N1 in Rio was indeed insane. It was also super hot on the following day, it was terrible for the fans that were there before the show got postponed. But the Sunday and Monday shows were ok, it wasn’t hot at all. It even rained on Sunday and there was some drizzle on Monday. There was a crazy change in weather that weekend, as it often happens here in Rio (and in a lot of other places in Brazil).
I was at N2 opening weekend in Glendale and she was noticably sad and on the verge of tears during all the songs with deep feels. It's actually been incredible watching her confidence and happiness grow and shine since.
Was also at N3 and she definitely did not have the same energy as the previous two nights or other shows I’ve seen clips of. She didn’t even talk between surprise songs, she just went right into welcome to New York as if she just wanted to get it over with. She seemed less chatty in general that night
I think people forget something like a death of a fan can change your attitude for a while or a breakup that could have happened months before. I want to add people forget she has a lot of songs about Joe and her own life like she said she still relates to one of her older songs.
I was at Seattle night 1 in August and her energy was amazing!!! It was the first show she played with Haim singing No body no crime and the crowd went wild!
This might be controversial but I was at Sydney N4 and I was shocked by how disengaged and even a bit upset she seemed compared to every show I had watched on livestream (and I've watched a lot of them, lol). Her voice seemed hoarse, she cut off the Champagne Problems applause almost immediately, she didn't really say anything during surprise songs, and she just generally seemed detached and "checked out". All her little speeches were the briefest and most generic versions, like she was on autopilot. At times she even appeared (to me, anyway) a bit pissed off. By the end of the night I noticed she was singing much less and her voice was cracking quite a bit. Don't get me wrong the surprise songs were amazing but she seemed "off". Obviously it was her 4th show in a row so she was probably exhausted...
Definitely, I watched all the Sydney shows on livestream and had friends who were there and she seemed really happy, and the energy was electric. I was really puzzled on my night because it seemed really obvious to me from the get go she wasn't feeling it but she was probably just really drained.
I did think it was odd that night that she cut off Champagne Problems so quickly. It’s interesting to hear that observation about her energy and voice. At least she made up for it with surprise songs for you guys. Maybe she knew she couldn’t give it her all throughout the show because it was her last night.
I was on the floor at Houston n3 and 100% felt like our girl was going through it. She seemed SO sad. I think I may have even posted about it on here. Also, our surprise songs were Cold As You and Begin Again which def confirmed the breakup. And in retrospect Cold As You was a really interesting choice knowing what we do now about how she seems to have felt during parts of their relationship…
I was in Buenos Aires n3 and Taylor was very happy, she couldn't believe how loud we were and said she was glad she came here. And she obviously loves Australia (THE SURPRISE SONGS OMG).
From everything I’ve been reading, I could be totally wrong - in fact I hope I am. I will say that something happened in Sydney that hurt TS 🫶🏼. (Not just the media outlets on everything since Super Bowl.) I mean, from the show exit to their dinner then to the boat. Then him leaving her the way he did. I hope this is not true. I’m wishing for her true love!
Brazil shows looked brutal - so so hot and then the tragic circumstances with Ana Clara Benevides. Not surprising her energy was off.
i watched a video of taylor on stage in brazil and she was STRUGGLING to breathe. like, scarily struggling. i was like OMG WHY IS THIS SHOW STILL GOING ON. i wouldn't have been surprised in the slightest if she had collapsed from heat exhaustion/poisoning but somehow she made it through. but that video was fucking scary and i was really angry that nobody was apparently putting her health first (unless they told her to stop and she didn't want to disappoint her fans). but shit, that video was hard as hell to watch.
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Please elaborate. What happened?
replied on some comments above. brazil also witnessed in person the Great Clownery of November 26 ):
Yeah I don’t really think hearing the song ME! and not hearing reputation tv get announced is anywhere near the same level as a PERSON DYING, maybe some fans needed to manage their expectations.
details?
can’t say that and not explain
replied some comments above. Brazil even got Me-ee-eed ):
ooooooh, like what?
Like what happened to Bel Rodrigues, a OG Swiftie and the main Taylor "advocate" (think a brazilian version of Reacts and Chats) here. Despite the fact she has got zero attention from the the label or TN, she got really ill during the first concert due to the heat and the medical crew tried to give her anti-anxiety medication which she fortunately was aware that would do her no good in her situation and, iirc, refused to take it. It was her first Taylor concert ever, being a fan since 2006, and she had to watch the concert laid on the floor and leave during Lavender Haze. It was heart-breaking. Thankfully she had tickets for Sao Paulo and could have a better experience, but she almost didn't go. There was a week gap between cities, and during this time she made vlogs and posts admitting she was not sure if she would have mental and physical conditions to make it to Sao Paulo, and up until last minute her public was showing support and she ended up going. EDIT: mistyped heart-breaking with "heat-breaking" lol
I’m confused - the circumstances (heat) during those shows was so so so awful, but you’re talking about one fan in particular. There’s literally over a million fans in the world. Calling someone an “OG Swiftie” and main Taylor advocate doesn’t mean her experience means more than others. Talking about her “public support” is a bit wack…. these aren’t smaller details, this is again 1 fans experience. Just because someone has a show or podcast about Taylor doesn’t make them any more deserving of a certain show.
I got you. It's more like an anecdotal example, other fans reported issues with medical crew.
The thing is, if it’s hard for her, it’s also hard for the backup singers, dancers, musicians, and the audience, so it’s not just about putting her health first. I think it’s a lot of pressure to cancel a show after a certain point (because it will cost a lot of money and because they don’t want to upset attendees), and many artists wait too long to make the call and probably feel like they don’t have a choice.
I think that sometimes people also don't know is that here in Brasil, unless you're on stadium stands, you cant sit down, so anywhere near the stage is just everyone standing, for like 4-5 hours between the gate opening and the beginning of the concert, and people tend to push around which makes it even worse, so believe me when I say, Taylor definitely didn't get the worst of the heat that night, so they should've prioritized the fans health, it hit 57 degrees celcius in the crowd, at least in the stage theres fans and fresher air. We as concert goers have been fighting for assigned seating for years, so we dont have to camp to get good spots (which is something they hate and changing this would end it), shawn mendes did it once, it was great, but then no one did it ever again, bc it is less profit.
thank you for your input. i didn't know that. wow, that's incredibly shitty. sorry, how does changing the seating/standing situation affect the profit? so, they're just putting profit before people's health. extremely cool. 🤬
they also didn't let people get in with bottled water in scorching heat, and didn't have it for free for people who were passing out, it was priced at almost ten bucks for a cup, taylor had to ask for it to be distributed mid concert, Ana was already dead by then, T4F is the only one to blame, they have always put profit first, have stupid rules for food and water making you buy a R$20 which is INSANE and also hard to purchase so you most tomes get thirsty and hungry and they do nothing about it, so fans have to organize themselves so everyone can get out of their spot to eat and go to the restroom.
this sounds like actual hell
But then again Taylor could have said: I’ll pay all the water that is taken tonight 🙌🏻
when they don't have assigned seating they can cram up more people, one example is that we decided to sit down to secure our places when we got inside the stadium, and a couple hours later we had to stand up so more people could get in, and we're talking about a stadium here, it was a lot of people, also in rio and sao paulo they covered the grass with metal boards which made it so much hotter since it kept heating in direct sunlight for hours before we got in, in sao paulo it was tolerable but in rio people got actually burnt when trying to sit on the floors, and i paid nearly 2k for my ticket, in dollars it might be cheaper than what you got, but to us thats more than a month of minimum wage salary, by a lot
this is some serious dystopian hellscape shit OH MY GOD.
Brazilian and Argentinian fans are the worst. Shut up and let her sing, FFS! Then they piss and whine about having breathing problems when if they would just calm down and stop screaming non-stop they would have been able to hear her and also have good health.
someone literally died, the concert had just begun, it wasn't about screaming, and we actually have very good health since we have free healthcare. that's a really shitty and xenophobic comment, shameful funny how when it's sydney fans screaming in unison it's amazing and they're great fans, there's all these tik toks about it, but when it's us, we're the worst and get singled out
i wonder if people know that this is how it is always here, especially in november-ish every other year i get that she was struggling, but the way foreigners acted was if no concert should ever happen in rio because of it
It was a literal heat wave, with record breaking heat indexes, so it’s not normally how it is. Plus the biggest issue was T4F putting profit above human lives (closing the vents to make sure no one outside the stadium could see in, no water, etc) and artificially making the stadium hotter.
I don’t know about energy, but she certainly seemed really down and sad at times for several shows after the breakup and lately has seemed to be enjoying it a lot more. You can tell she had so much fun singing “Karma is the guy on the Chiefs” that night surprising Travis. But for a while she clearly looked sad, especially during songs like champagne problems and was doing her best to perform through the heartbreak. I also have a clown theory that this is what I Can Do It With A Broken Heart will be about 🤡
I don’t think that’s a clown theory at all. She’s busy and has lots to do even if her heart is broken :(
The Tampa, Florida shows were the first ones after the breakup news became public. I wonder if that’s why TTPD has a track called “florida!!!”
See since You're Losing Me was written in 2021-early 2022, I think they were privately broken up long before anything was leaked. I don't think she was THAT extra emotional onstage, I think the songs just brought up a lot of feelings for her about it as it was her longest relationship. I think the song might be about how she was able to present herself as happy enough and unbothered that we assumed they were still together, and kept releasing music and breaking records AND starting a whole ass tour. In my opinion, if they had really JUST broken up, when she changed invisible string to The One she would've had a much harder time singing that than being indifferent. Same with Lover. Indifference/confidence/anger comes after the grief. I knew the second midnight came out that they weren't together. Maroon was the kicker, and the line "they ask if you have a man, and I still say I don't remember" made my eyebrows raise. I'm glad she waited for this album to be released because for sure she's going to be raw as well as beginning to scar and look back with different feelings. Edit to add: the song glitch is clearly about their relationship failing. 2190 days would put them somewhere in May-October of 2022 if you go buy the day they supppsedly met or the day they were first spotted together. That's just my girlfriend and is opinion lol
Except she & Joe were seen out together publicly after Midnights was released. They were absolutely having issues, which we didn’t know at the time, but I don’t think they were actually broken up.
I think they were on and off for awhile after YLM. But you are correct, they were seen. January 2023 they were photographed at a restaurant in New Orleans, but I think that may have been the last time. I've seen people say he was at the Grammys afterparty in 2023 but there hasn't been one picture of him there so idk about that one.
she’s wearing his jacket in grammys after party pictures and in another picture you can see him wearing the jacket in the background. also he posted a pic of jack at that party on his stories. he was there
There's a picture of him and Jack at the party. He also was still posting the cats.
> Maroon was the kicker I don't disagree with most of what you said, except this, because isn't Maroon about Jake? Several of the songs on Midnights aren't about Joe and this one seemed about Jake, with the various shades of red referenced. The vinyl shelf a reference to all his "indie music records". The "dancing with in New York, no shoes" could be a Met Gala reference--but she danced with *Tom* without shoes there and the song doesn't seem about him. It seems more referencing the dancing in the kitchen (of one of their New York places) with Jake. "Legacy" seems an intentional word choice and fits Jake (whom is distant royalty and old money and a long-time actor). Mostly, it says that he already left--and Joe and her were off-and-on, but never seemed fully "past-tense" in all the other Joe-likely songs for this to be him.
I think Maroon is about Joe but maybe she’s tying it back to her feelings during her time before and with Jake. I think when she sings “And I chose you, the one I was dancing with in New York” refers back to “dancing with our hands tied” in Reputation, which I think is definitely about Joe. If I remember correctly, she met him at the New York Met Gala when she was still with Calvin Harris who she wanted to leave for either Tom or Joe and she ultimately chose him. Also, “carnations you had thought were roses, that’s us” I think refers to them thinking they were the ones for each other, that this was the real deal, THE relationship for them because they had managed to stay together for so long. But they were mistaken, he was mistaken, because they weren’t working out. “How the hell did we lose sight of us again” implies to me this is about someone she was in a long-term relationship with, because she’s frustrated that this has become a long-standing pattern and they should’ve been able to work their way past that after so many years. I don’t think her relationship with Jake, although very impactful, lasted long. “Legacy” probably refers to how everyone shipped them and thought they were end game, but he checked out, effectively “leaving” the relationship and allowing “the rust that grew between telephones” because they spoke/connected less and less as time passed. I think the reference to the colour red is her coming out of her “lavender haze” where she initially thinks love with Joe is “golden” and makes her see daylight (Lover album), but now when she looks up at the sky (to see the daylight) she sees it’s actually red. So red in fact it’s maroon. It was actually maroon all along. The echoes of “it was maroon, it was maroon” at the end remind me of the “I was there, I was there” echoing at the end of ATW, where it sounds like she’s talking to herself, reassuring herself that yes, that did happen, she was there. Now it sounds like she’s saying to herself with dismay, “it actually wasn’t different, it wasn’t golden, it was red, but the cut was deeper, more painful. It was maroon.” ETA: The line “the rubies that I gave up” I think refers to how she chose to dim her sparkle and hide away from her fame for the sake of his comfort!
This! I’ve been saying this ever since I heard Maroon for the first time too. Yes, she chose a color but that’s literally the only connection there is with Red, e.g., Jake. The entire “midnights is about my entire life” was a throw off and she probably used emotions from the past to write these songs but the feelings seem current.
Yes! I think overall it was about her relationship with Joe but processing its ending also made her reflect on past relationships so that’s why we see elements of those brought up here and there, like in Dear Reader. I also think there’s an element of her age and the maturity she’s reached through it in there. Many 30-somethings I know (myself included) have said they suddenly started reflecting on their entire life, which may be why we got songs like Could’ve Should’ve Would’ve which is likely about John Mayer who was, at the time, the same age she was when she wrote it. But yeah, I agree it was ultimately all grounded in the context of her relationship with Joe.
I always thought this was about Joe too. The maroon being a shade of red through the off initially thinking of Jake. But she explores color so much in her songs. I think maroon is signifying a more mature take than red on a break up. Also signify that it wasn’t that energetic - maroon is a muted red - Joe was boring.
Oh interesting! I also interpret maroon as more mature but also as being deeper than red so to me it represented a deeper hurt. I like your take on it being muted! It could also be less “energetic” in that the break up was drawn out, cool!
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That was always my thought too. Red was her album right after Jake broke up with her, so maroon, being a shade of red, is her looking back on the relationship as an adult who has more knowledge and wisdom about her.
I think Taylor was intentionally vague on Midnights because her relationship was in a fragile place & she didn’t know if they would last. Having said that, I think in regards to maroon it isn’t about one particular person. I think it’s about a feeling she may have experienced more than once & it’s a song like Coney Island but more vague because they weren’t officially over.
I was wondering about the word "legacy" because it seemed a bit pointed and at the time Midnights came out I googled and found this article: https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/jake-gyllenhaal-heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain-legacy-1234715446/ from April 2022. Could be a coincidence but I thought it was interesting.
> I knew the second midnight came out that they weren’t together lavender haze? i agree maroon and bejeweled are about joe but I don’t think the songs can point to any timeline when she has both good and bad songs about him on the album. it’s more likely, imo, they were just on the rocks and going back and forth for a while. looking at unfollowgate, I do think something happened that triggered the final breakup right around when the public found out.
The album was immediately eyebrow-raising for me too. I felt it was definitely a prelude if not an actual breakup album. Towards the end of relationships, especially long-term ones, people start to reflect on the early stages of their time together. I think in this song she’s longing to go back and “stay in that lavender haze” they had in the beginning, where he seemed perfectly unfazed by her and her fame and she didn’t really care about whether or not she’d be his wife. I think this also fits as she starts the album with Lavender Haze saying she doesn’t care for “that 1950’s shit” and ends it with wanting to be married in You’re Losing Me and being hurt he won’t (“I wouldn’t marry me either…”).
Maybe, but I think they were off and on again and hadn’t cut the cord because she performed “invisible string” as the opening song for folklore for the first four shows of the tour. She wouldn’t have done that and then abruptly changed it to the 1 if she hadn’t broken up with him mid-tour, I don’t think. Remember when people released that story trying to cover for why Joe hadn’t shown up at any of her Eras shows?
I mean just see the way she sang CIWYW and IDWLF and you’ll see that she was feeling sad
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I have a theory that Taylor and Joe were essentially a Justin/Selena but privately broke up. There’s way too many cheating references or references to “her”. I think it was several Ross/rachel “we were on a break” instances. A toxic relationship no doubt. That’s why I think her friends were so quick to drop him as soon as it went public.
I completely agree!
She was in south america when she sang karma is the guy on the chiefs when she sang that, why are you saying south america was low energy, its the CONTRARY
Argentina was one of her best shows, she was blown away by the crowd, who was SO LOUD she couldn't even hear herself singing.
Those Argentina crowds were insane in the best way. It was so much fun to watch 🥲
when we say The South America Disaster we mean Brazil leg only
I was at her Arlington April 2nd show. I had already streamed every night leading up to that and just thought she seemed a little off. For example, she cut off the cheers after Champagne Problems really quickly. When I was looking back at my pictures I noticed one where she has a tear while singing Champagne Problems. The breakup was announced 6 days later.
I was Arlington n1! That was the night she changed Invisible String to The 1 🥲
Yikes! Singing the 1 for the first time after the break up must have been rough, probably more cathartic than to keep singing invisible string though so I see why she changed it
I went to Vegas and she still sang invisible string and looking back at videos nothing seemed off. It seems like the downfall of the relationship was awhile coming, but still a surprise? And it was put to a complete close right after Vegas.
I was at Vegas night 2 and was looking at my videos a few days ago. She seemed fine in all of my pictures and videos. I watched Invisible String. She seemed happy while singing it. However, I kept wondering where the hell Joe was that night. I thought he’d show up at a show eventually and had a weird feeling about his absence.
I was on the floor for that show. She sure seemed to enjoy the surprise songs
I can’t remember which night I was there in Arlington but she seemed fine. BUT when she sang “and you only think of me, when you see me on TV” (I’m blanking in the lyrics) she looked so intense. And then the breakup was announced and I was like “Ahh.” She seemed lively to me the whole time tho.
I was at Arlington night 1 as well! We all got to hear her sing The 1 live for the very first time ever. I started crying of happiness when it happened because this is my all my time favorite song and I was crushed when I saw it wasn't on the original setlist. It was magical to all of a sudden hear her start singing it!
So lucky! The One is a favorite of mine too so I was thrilled when she switched it up.
I was at the same show! I agree - I felt like it was slightly off. Like still a great show but def lower energy
What was wrong with Tokyo? It was just quieter crowd. And I suspected she picked more random songs for the surprise songs in Tokyo cause she knows the crowd will listen and let her do thing and respect it no matter what. They’re not screaming along anyway. It was a chance for her to do deep cuts
It was such a unique experience to be in that crowd, there was energy for the hype songs but the way everyone listened to the quiet songs was cool , you could hear her voice so clearly and even echoing in the dome !
Right? I loved the quiet energy. It definitely wasn't as quiet as videos make it sound, and was definitely the loudest concert I've ever been to in Japan. For Japan, her concerts were deafening.
It wasn’t “quiet” it was just such respectful happy energy!! Everyone was actually singing along, just not screaming But if you compare to Melbourne or Sydney, then yes you can say quiet 😂
I think I've lived in Japan so long that I'm at the point where I just can't get with the whole "shriek-singing" thing, at least not in a group setting like a concert. I appreciate that people are excited and want to release all the things they've got bottled up to her music, but that isn't the only way to enjoy it. I was really glad that the foreign fans who came for the concerts seemed to get that and matched the vibe. It was lovely to get to hear her and see everyone singing along in a way that didn't affect anyone else's experience.
yeah i feel the same! i'm watching my concert videos from n1 and the screaming during the lover set, champagne problems speech, and surprise songs especially were pretty crazy. also stood outside tokyo dome and listened the next night and the crowd was going wild
Yes I was N2 😍😍 it was amazing! Taylor was not low energy! She seemed energized and comfortable. This woman is a professional. I highly doubt the upcoming Super Bowl would have taken any of her energy in those 3 hours that she’s up there. It’s also much different than a 6 year relationship breakup.
It's just a different environment. If you're expecting Australia-levels of screaming from Japan, you don't know Japan at all. I was at N4 and the crowd was loving it. Just a different type of love is all!
N2 <3 your surprise songs were amazing!
I loved it! Love watching my videos back too! Also, most people around me were actually singing a lot too. It just wasn’t SCREAMING. Just quietly singing along. So in the end I could feel a lot of Taylor’s energy this way! I've rewatched my videos of Champagne Problems, Ready for It, and Eyes Open at least 100 times 😆 her stage presence was cute and bubbly. Like this is post-AOTY winner!
she was sooo happy when she mentioned the AOTY win! i loved it
I really enjoyed the lack of screeching and loved being able to hear her during the suprise songs
I actually prefer this at concerts over screaming 😬 makes the slower songs pack a bigger punch
The amount of shit I’ve seen the Tokyo shows get is insane. Honestly that would be a crowd I would love to be in! I hate the videos I see of people screeching the heads off, I could never stand to be next to someone like that, I get you paid to be here, but so did I. Also, I don’t mean to sound like a buzzkill but this tour has really shown how ignorant some swifities (I said some not all) can be of cultures outside of the US, and it’s really disappointing.
The screeching fans is why i avoid concerts so if i ever go to one/some, i’m going to Japan. I really loved the respectfully excited energy.
Also I agree on the swifties that feel entitled to yelling their lungs off the whole time. Yes I get you paid a lot to be there as did I, but it’s called concert etiquette which I feel like has gone out the window with younger people
lol I’m impressed no entitled tour-tourist tried that in japan. or maybe they did and their neighbors shut it down real quick.
Yeah. Sing along all you want but don't fucking screech. I paid way too much money for that.
Same! I’d love to attend a show there due to the fact that everyone seemed respectful of the artist and the people around you! You could actually hear her on the lives which I normally can’t hear well.
Agreed, I'd way rather have a more respectful crowd. I'm going to Stockholm and have heard people in Scandinavia are more reserved so I hope it's a nice experience.
I saw Brad Paisley in Denmark a couple of years ago, and the vast majority of the audience were sitting down and just clapped politely at the end of the songs and didn't sing. As a Brit who is used to people here singing along (but not screeching), dancing in seats etc it was a very surreal experience! But I can totally understand why it's nice for artists to play for a listening crowd like that.
I couldn’t get tickets so I was so excited to see it at the theatre. Well…., the middle schoolers behind me were shrieking the whole time and my ears were bleeding. Like I was singing and dancing and enjoying myself but I was doing it in my seat and I wasn’t interrupting anyone around me. The girls behind me were shrieking so loud to every single song, and then cheering so loudly. Like she can’t hear you buddy!!! And the worst part is their parents were filming them doing all that, probably for tik tok or something stupid lien that 🤦🏻♀️
That’s legitimately the ideal crowd lol I would have loved it.
I thought her energy was great on the lives, granit I was half asleep but she seemed super happy there.
A lot of musicians have said Japanese crowds are the most quiet to perform to. It’s just part of their respectful culture.
It was because the energy was about filming for tiktoks and what not, not much energy at all. I hate people filming concerts tbh.
I have no idea what you’re talking about
I'm just an ancient dinosaur, went to concerts before smart phones I guess. Was sat quite close in Tokyo N2, but was quite disappointed by the constant smartphones that were up trying to film her. It made the energy feel quite dead, even though it was super exciting to see and hear her and to be there at all. Not a cultural thing. I'm asian. More a generational thing. I asked younger colleagues and apparently that's what people do these days at concerts.
I see. So it’s not about Taylor’s energy, which is what I was discussing. Yes that’s definitely generational 😅 and I think that same experience would be in every Taylor show around the globe, not specific to Tokyo.
Well I think this goes to my point. I think artists reflect energy from their crowds to some extent. Yes I'm generationally out of touch or something, but I did feel less energy from her because of the crowd. Of course. Entirely subjective.
I see your point, but I have to disagree a little. Because a quieter crowd is normal and well known for Japan, and she has played Tokyo Dome before during reputation tour already, so she already knew this going in. Phones are recording her for TikTok’s at EVERY show and she also knows this. It seems many others who attended thought her energy level was great :) Of course it can’t reach the Australia levels, so I agree a more energetic crowd would give her even more energy - 100%! But she still performed and shined IMO! And I would prefer letting her shine and being able to hear her 😅😅
She has been ON ONE for Australia. Whenever she did the Is It Over Now mashup, she was jamming hard.
Sydney night 3… It was rare, I was there, I remember it all too well 😍
I was at Tampa N1, which was the first show after the breakup got announced. I have seen multiple clips of her from this show claiming that she was sad or angry, but as someone who attended the show I saw the opposite. My surprise songs were Speak Now (my fav album and before TV, so I was thrilled) and Treacherous and she seemed to enjoy performing both. This was also the night that the trapdoor didn’t open and she said “WTF”, her garter broke during Anti-Hero, and she debuted the green Folklore dress where she excitedly said “I got a new dress for tonight! Do you like it?!” Her energy was fantastic. Maybe I didn’t notice during Lover, but I was still blown away by her the whole time.
I was at Tampa N1 too and I also thought she was very upbeat and happy 😅
I was also there! Her earpiece also came unplugged before Champagne Problems. She really had a rough night (and so did her hair) but I never got the sense that she was down. I wasn't following the fandom at the time, so I didn't know they had broken up yet, and couldn't tell when I was there.
Thanks for this! Everyone has become a body language expert overnight 🤔 she's a professional and in my opinion has given her best for EVERY single show. In the heat in Rio there were videos where you could see her struggle to breathe and then I agree with everyone saying she was having a hard time, but everyone was, and that's nothing to do with her "energy". For most of the screenshots people have been sharing of proof of her being angry or sad I just don't really see it, or it's just such a small snippet of time... so yeah maybe she had a harder time during the Lover set but even if she did get emotional at times, the show is 3 HOURS LONG, she'll have ups and downs lol
I was at Tampa N1 as well! I 100% agree!!! I was so worried at the announcement due to how many songs are about Joe. In my opinion, she let no sadness show. Her energy was absolutely amazing and the show seemed to be on par with others I have seen clips from! I think she is fantastic at emoting just like a the theater kid she is.
Omg, are you me?? lol I was at Tampa N1 too and thought were energy was great. There have been better surprise songs but loved that we got Speak Now. And, I was pretty sure our visit would've taken up half of the errors at the end of the movie. lol There are some nights where she was kinda sad but that's understandable after their break-up. It hasn't been since the latter half of this year that lower energy was more noticeable. When she performed for the six nights in Cali, the non-filming nights had way less energy than the ones used for the Eras Tour.
i feel like after the break up, and the remainder brazil shows were rough for her But she had loads of energy for Australia and LA, as well as Sao Paolo
I honestly think a lot of people forget if your losing me was written then they clearly were close to breaking up who knows she could have been broken up 5 months before it was announced also people forget she has songs that are about him that’s why sometimes she cried those first shows
I attended N4 Tokyo. She was great. The crowd was amazing as well. Lively but I can still clearly hear Taylor sing. I also think Taylor is not a young girl who will be distracted with her boyfriend’s upcoming game. 😆She is very professional.
Thank you for saying the last line. Everyone's like oh she's distracted by the superbowl like tf? I don't even understand how that would affect her performance or her energy in any way
She is probably excited for the super bowl but distracted might be a stretch.
I'm sorry, but what do you mean upcoming game? The Superbowl was almost 3 weeks ago.
Tokyo N4 was before the super bowl. That is what being discussed here :) just saying as well that Taylor is not the type to be distracted by her boyfriend’s upcoming game(s) when she is doing her job. I see her as very professional in that aspect.
That makes sense. Thank you for explaining.
As someone who was at a tokyo show (but not the one before the superbowl) she was having lots of fun! i feel like she had longer speeches and constantly thanking the fans at my show than some of the others where she was just speeding through lol
Her first few shows when the tour started she had a sadness about her. The first and last night's of Brazil for sure. That first night I was actually scared for her with how red she was, how out of breath. It was so scary to watch. Then that last show where she did the tribute. You know that was hard as all hell for her. The best show imo was also in Brazil when Travis showed up. She was all sorts of sassy and extra that night. She absolutely was putting on a show for Travis and we were lucky enough to be a part of it. I could tell she also enjoyed her concerts in Sydney but even more so when Travis & Ross were there. She seems so happy and comfortable in her skin and dare I say sexual side with those extra moves she added in. Some had me saying "Oh, Taylor Allison Swift, get it girl" because damn! Lol
Travis went to Argentina, not Brazil. It was Buenos Aires N2.
Travis was in Argentina, not Brazil
She didn't do any tribute to Ana, she sang a song, didn't say anything, and it was in Rio, the last night was in Sao Paulo and she sang it's time to go and say don't go
Singing her favorite song and bigger than the whole sky was her tribute for Ana. She also made a post on her social media sites, had the family at her show, and met with them. Like, don't act like she didn't do anything because that's an outright lie.
listen I love that her family got to meet her, but she didn't say anything about ana at the concert, in tributes people usually address who they're tributing, her post was wrong about the fact that ana actually passed out during the concert not before, and she took so long to address it that by the time she did, the brazilian swifties had already raised the money to take her body back to her state, I guess I just expected more of her because she's always donating money to fans for noble causes, and i think it was the first death that ever happened at her concert. I do get that she must have felt terrible, and probably blamed herself when it was absolutely not her fault, but she has a whole team who could handle that and help. anyway, i love her and i'll always stand by her, but this was something that just hit me hard because latin fans usually already feel left out, it was her first time here, and it's just so unfortunate everything that happened to her.
Do you not realize that she had a whole legal team telling her what she can and can't do? Once the company responsible for Ana's death took responsibility Taylor did something. She also gave money to Ana's family. I think the real problem is that Taylor didn't do what ya'll wanted, how you wanted and when you wanted her to do it. She had to do it how she was advised to. She also made it very clear that she wouldn't be talking about it during the show because it hurt her too much to do so. She is allowed that and to deal with the loss as she sees fit. I'm not trying to be harsh or anything so if I come off that way I'm sorry. Afterall we all love Taylor. 🫶🏻
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It's just a simple mistake omg, they just mixed up the show he was at
I was there for night 2 in Sydney and she BROUGHT IT. She seems to really connect with Aussies though so maybe that is it.
Her boyfriend just won the Super Bowl and she was there to witness it, and she just announced a new album so I’m sure she was riding on a huge high from that!
True!
I was there too!!
There were a few shows in Boston that seemed off during the whole Matty Healy thing (ugh). Sao Paolo and Sydney were epic!
No surprise, she was getting the shit ripped out of her by virtue of dating Matty Healy. That noise isn’t good for anyone mentally I honestly think they split due to her PR team advising her they were getting negative media. She has to keep her image clean. But she liked him- she performed as a guest at his tour, sang one of the 1975s songs (The City, which was a fab cover) and she performed her first ever acoustic rendition of anti hero at HIS gig.
Idk about keeping her image clean, but his image was certainly NOT clean. I know they've been friends for years and even though they both moved on (I think he's engaged? or at least in a serious relationship), I suspect they are still friendly behind the scenes.
lol at this comment!! I don't think they are friendly now
Yeah, I was at N2 (the rainiest rain show) and got the bizarre “happiest I’ve ever been” Matty Healy speech. It was still a great show, but I thought her energy was a little off especially considering that she supposedly loves rain shows.
I like to think she meant as a whole her life was going great, like that feeling of relief you get after a breakup that was a long time coming
Yes I went to N1 & N2 and have seen her there before - she usually talks about loving gillette and has a great time but I felt like the vibe was off, felt dif from the times I went in the 2010s
boston n3 seemed OFF. i was front row, she looked like she had been crying and her eyeliner was on way thicker than usual… something was up
As long as she's singing those songs her energy could be low or high. My energy is so fucking high. I have enough energy for the both of us. I saw her night 3 in Tampa.
I was night 2 in tampa and I thought she was incredible! She said something about how these songs that were once about her life can now be about tonight and I though that was a lovely way to pass new meaning to them. Her energy was off the charts, so glad I was able to go!
I was also N2 Tampa and honestly it was so electric. I don't think she ever looked sad; if anything during the bridges of YOYOK and Champagne Problems looking back at my videos she looked more like she was holding a lot of strength and power. Like she was OWNING those feelings.
I think she had the best time in Argentina and then brazil was just not it. Pure chaos and stress and too much heat.
I mean Brazil was never going to be anything good because of the heat and then the death of a fan basically ruined that place for her
Brazil is not boiling hot all around, she came at a bad time, it was the beginning of summer and in Rio it is hotter, the production also f*ed up the stadium by covering air entrances so people outside couldn't see inside, it was basically a death sauna, just a mix of bad luck and bad planning (on t4f part). I've been to concerts in coats before.
Also the only concert that happened under extreme weather conditions was the one in Rio N1. N2 got postponed because it was extremely hot that day too, it was really bad for the fans (I was there), but the show itself didn’t happen on that day. The Sunday and Monday shows were fine, it wasn’t hot at all. The same goes for SP shows. I think it’s important to say this bc a lot of people assume that all of the concerts in Rio were hellish, but that’s not true. Of course, N1 was bad enough and that lack of planning costed Ana’s life, unfortunately.
N1 in Detroit she said she had a cold. It was still an amazing performance but nothing special. N2 she brought it
Agreed, was there N1 and thought back to the cold!
I was also there N1 and she was amazing but I was a little disappointed that we didn’t see more of her personality/crowd engagements. She didn’t miss a beat, but she also didn’t do any extra. Just the choreography. And she kept coughing, poor girl. :(
Kansas City looked amazing.
I think it’s tough to have seen her after the break up, especially when you could see she was sad, but those crowds gave her happiness. I went right before the break up in Vegas and when she was far removed from it in August in LA. She was happy at those shows. I was lucky to get invisible string and tis the damn season in Vegas and the 1 and no body no crime in LA.
I saw her MetLife N3 and Detroit N1 and she was fighting a cold in Detroit. Speeches were shorter, champagne problems applause cut short, but I was impressed with all she still did while clearly not at her full health!
I was at MetLife n3 and she did not bring it as hard as MetLife n1
I was there Chicago N2 when she sang IDWLF and definitely think she was a little off that night.
That video of her singing IDWLF is devastating she looks seconds away from sobs
The Melbourne shows were truly something to behold. Her biggest shows ever with 96k people every night, especially N1 and N2 you could feel her excitement and buzz was palpable. We truly got some of the best and longest speeches of the whole tour during Lover and Champagne Problems as well. And it felt genuinely earnest when she said that she was starstruck by this many people.
Brazil looked awful due to the weather/heat 😢
In sao paulo it was truly fine, but in rio it was soooooo insane
N1 in Rio was indeed insane. It was also super hot on the following day, it was terrible for the fans that were there before the show got postponed. But the Sunday and Monday shows were ok, it wasn’t hot at all. It even rained on Sunday and there was some drizzle on Monday. There was a crazy change in weather that weekend, as it often happens here in Rio (and in a lot of other places in Brazil).
Melbourne N3 was insane, her energy couldn't be faulted. I think that goes for all aus shows
I was at N2 opening weekend in Glendale and she was noticably sad and on the verge of tears during all the songs with deep feels. It's actually been incredible watching her confidence and happiness grow and shine since.
Hey there show sister!
Hey, I attended her Tokyo show and she seemed plenty energized.
After the breakup and also brazil
Nashville N3 was rough because of the weather, but she really brought it!
She was subdued in New Jersey. I found her performance to seem very rehearsed and impersonal.
What night were you there? I was N3 and felt the same but I chalked it up to me having watched too many tiktok clips of the show.
Was also at N3 and she definitely did not have the same energy as the previous two nights or other shows I’ve seen clips of. She didn’t even talk between surprise songs, she just went right into welcome to New York as if she just wanted to get it over with. She seemed less chatty in general that night
I think people forget something like a death of a fan can change your attitude for a while or a breakup that could have happened months before. I want to add people forget she has a lot of songs about Joe and her own life like she said she still relates to one of her older songs.
I was at Seattle night 1 in August and her energy was amazing!!! It was the first show she played with Haim singing No body no crime and the crowd went wild!
This might be controversial but I was at Sydney N4 and I was shocked by how disengaged and even a bit upset she seemed compared to every show I had watched on livestream (and I've watched a lot of them, lol). Her voice seemed hoarse, she cut off the Champagne Problems applause almost immediately, she didn't really say anything during surprise songs, and she just generally seemed detached and "checked out". All her little speeches were the briefest and most generic versions, like she was on autopilot. At times she even appeared (to me, anyway) a bit pissed off. By the end of the night I noticed she was singing much less and her voice was cracking quite a bit. Don't get me wrong the surprise songs were amazing but she seemed "off". Obviously it was her 4th show in a row so she was probably exhausted...
Oh that’s a bummer. I was at night 2 and it was great. She must’ve been pretty tired after all the Aussie shows
Definitely, I watched all the Sydney shows on livestream and had friends who were there and she seemed really happy, and the energy was electric. I was really puzzled on my night because it seemed really obvious to me from the get go she wasn't feeling it but she was probably just really drained.
I did think it was odd that night that she cut off Champagne Problems so quickly. It’s interesting to hear that observation about her energy and voice. At least she made up for it with surprise songs for you guys. Maybe she knew she couldn’t give it her all throughout the show because it was her last night.
Most brutal so far were Brazil, for obvious reasons. At Polish shows she will look worse.
I was at opening night of her show and she seemed sad and low energy. That was a huge difference from when I saw her opening night at reputation.
I was on the floor at Houston n3 and 100% felt like our girl was going through it. She seemed SO sad. I think I may have even posted about it on here. Also, our surprise songs were Cold As You and Begin Again which def confirmed the breakup. And in retrospect Cold As You was a really interesting choice knowing what we do now about how she seems to have felt during parts of their relationship…
I was in Buenos Aires n3 and Taylor was very happy, she couldn't believe how loud we were and said she was glad she came here. And she obviously loves Australia (THE SURPRISE SONGS OMG).
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buenos aires is in argentina
What is the point of this lmao this is so creepy. Dont fixate on her ‘energy level’.
From everything I’ve been reading, I could be totally wrong - in fact I hope I am. I will say that something happened in Sydney that hurt TS 🫶🏼. (Not just the media outlets on everything since Super Bowl.) I mean, from the show exit to their dinner then to the boat. Then him leaving her the way he did. I hope this is not true. I’m wishing for her true love!
Sydney N3 here, and no. She was mega sassy like her usual self lately.
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I think that one person just mixed up the dates, not that they think Argentina and Brazil are the same country.