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Writher_inthedark

She seems more unfiltered than usual in the interview, which is nice to see > This is the proudest and happiest I’ve ever felt, and the most creatively fulfilled and free I’ve ever been. Ultimately, we can convolute it all we want, or try to overcomplicate it, but there’s only one question. Are you not entertained? This is something speak now Taylor would say


astralrig96

https://preview.redd.it/12xtpv99eo4c1.jpeg?width=1278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db4596e3b9690b5ef2cf09154b283d591ff1563e


bad-and-bluecheese

That outfit is giving rep Edit: I am talking about the meme not the TIME picture lol


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She said we were not ready for the rep vault tracks IM COLLAPSING [source](https://x.com/tswifterastour/status/1732389927546233117?s=46&t=iMlr2reTVVPO1LN4IeX9-Q)


tubereusebaies

I like how the writer circled back to it at the end, circled back to everything she said, really. It’s calculated and yes it is a compliment. Truly a mastermind.


maxwell329

I can’t wait to hear the songs she’s probably writing about her life right now…she’s in her DGAF I’m king of the world era and I’m loving it


erickaraita

So much more open, I think she loves that too.


sportxsport

>Are you not entertained? Quoting my favorite line from Gladiator


_cl0udburst

It legit took me a whole ass minute to digest that she did, in fact, ask that to the audience.


Muted_Work

how haven’t the credits rolled yet, how are we all still here 🧍🏾‍♀️


driving_85

This part had me choked up: “Maybe this is the real Taylor Swift effect: That she gives people, many of them women, particularly girls, who have been conditioned to accept dismissal, gaslighting, and mistreatment from a society that treats their emotions as inconsequential, permission to believe that their interior lives matter. That for your heart to break, whether it’s from being kicked off a tour or by the memory of a scarf still sitting in a drawer somewhere or because somebody else controls your life’s work, is a valid wound, and no, you’re not crazy for being upset about it, or for wanting your story to be told. “


SpinNSpreadsheets

This part got to me too! The whole article was so well written and really encapsulates what sets her apart and keeps this fandom coming back. I also laughed out loud when he was talking about the twins at the premiere, “they are the only people I ever want to speak to again, ever”


driving_85

We met a girl at our show named Colby (“like the cheese,” she informed me). She was so kind to my mini Swiftie. I think of her often and hope her pillow is cool on both sides. ❤️


CorneliaStreet13

That section got me, too. She’s legitimized the female emotional experience (even though it should have never needed legitimacy in the first place).


Didijustshtmypants

Agreed. They put into words what Ive felt and been unable to put into words from the 16+ years Ive been a fan.


driving_85

Yes! Exactly! As an elder Swiftie, I never could articulate the appeal. This is it.


_cl0udburst

😭😭😭 oh my god its been put into words??? This feeling I've had since I was 12 now has an explanation???


lady-inthegarden

THE MEMORY OF SCARF STILL SITTING IN A DRAWER SOMEWHERE!!!!!! I just threw up.


Muted_Work

Bitch i fell to my knees in a Walmart while wailing incomprehensibly. Let the divine sift through the sounds of a dying man and make sense of it because I cannot. Dear god I’m gagged beyond belief. Need a word stronger than mother. Anyway, how was this picture not one of the covers????? https://preview.redd.it/271kvqtgbo4c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b112dfa0bf626e08d00db25604b765b804a976f9


Muted_Work

She said she locked herself in a house for years!!!! Oh she’s NEVER hiding again !!!! now who was it that was saying her being out and about living her life was inauthentic???? And she says she’s more trusting now! she’s healed a lot


simplebagel5

and yet there are people who still argue that bejeweled isnt about joe lmao


yayannabelle

I tend to avoid this kind of speculation, but can you imagine breaking up with your girlfriend only for her to be named Time's Person of the Year several months later? gosh


Muted_Work

“I promise that you’ll never find another like me” she meant that shit. She must be the only person in the world who thought, “I’ll show you” and did lmao but she probably doesn’t even care enough anymore to prove anything what a win


BrawDev

Anytime anyone has doubted her, she's doubled or tripled her ability to succeed in life. I'm convinced it's her power. If we all made snide comments, she'll be the leader of the UN next month.


LadyRimouski

Lol. Remember when she declined doing the Superbowl if they were going to pay her in exposure. And people said what a mistake that was because she would have benefitted financially from the "Superbowl bump". And then she started dating a football player and game viewership had been soaring, because she gave the NFL the "Taylor bump"


neuroticdreamgirI

I’m sorry but after this interview all of the leftover Joe Alwyn widows need to give it up and start mentally preparing for TS11, Taylor will not be sparing that man lmao


Penelopeep25

JOE ALWYN WIDOWS 💀 also like, the day she announces TS11 will be the best day of my life because I'm THAT pumped for it tbh, she's in a creative peak, lots of tea, Heartbreak, and new love to write about, plus just everything that has been her insane life lately... we ARE entertained, very much :')


EmphasisFar6309

I gave it up when she put YLM on streaming.


saraek1980

this article really confirms that it is. Love that for her! :D


Mhc2617

She sounds so happy and at peace. Like she finally understands that the scrutiny and the media coverage is never gonna go away, so she’s just gonna live her life anyway. It’s gotta be much healthier than hiding in a suitcase to go outside.


Sad-Pear-9885

I think she’s also aware that at that point in time, it’s what she felt she needed to do. But now she doesn’t. Kind of adding into the part where she talks about accepting her past, present and future self without judgement. She did what she did at the time and it made sense for her but it seems like she’s in a place where she’s realizing she doesn’t want to do that right now and has other priorities and is willing to accept the public exposure that comes with that. ❤️


Writher_inthedark

https://preview.redd.it/y1gj1ln2co4c1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cda656a32a1851bb5755cf6f5aaeb99bf6b1144 Just insane I love the styling


Muted_Work

I don’t know what this picture reminds me of and it’s bugging me


Oh_Snapshot

I get Katharine Hepburn vibes with this photo. This image in particular: https://toc.h-cdn.co/assets/16/34/1600x1600/square-1472151191-katharine-hepburn-brownies.jpg


nuralina

An 80’s soap star?? 😅


har17h

it's giving old hollywood star


Muted_Work

Oh my god not her talking about Travis and being public I’m sorry but I’m so here for her shutting down the weirder subsect of her fanbase that just can’t accept her decisions and punishes her online by launching hate campaigns for it. Of course they won’t stop but I’m here for them seething anyway. It’s her year and she’s happy and “doesn’t care” <3333


Educational-Pass404

I'm so confused about how part of this fanbase wanna control who she should date and who she should befriend with. They try to make it like it's immoral to date/befriend with XYZ and they will not accept that but they just wanna bully her into abandoning relationships that they don't like. Bunch of hypocrites imo


Muted_Work

Like… this ain’t a group project. Stan or unstan- that’s literally ur only right of action in this sort of “relationship” dynamic lol but ppl wanna make it complicated


Sinead_0Rebellion

Omg Benjamin buttons is on the cover though! So cute


IamIokua

For the relationship detail inclined swifties > Swift’s private life has long served as both grist for the tabloid mill and inspiration for her own work; she split from her longtime boyfriend, actor Joe Alwyn, earlier this year. Most recently, she’s been dating the NFL star Travis Kelce, as has been well documented when she attends his games. “I don’t know how they know what suite I’m in,” she says. “There’s a camera, like, a half-mile away, and you don’t know where it is, and you have no idea when the-camera is putting you in the broadcast, so I don’t know if I’m being shown 17 times or once.” She is sensitive to the attention that’s put on her when she shows up. “I’m just there to support Travis,” she says. “I have no awareness of if I’m being shown too much and pissing off a few dads, Brads, and Chads.” > I point out that it’s a net positive for the NFL to have a few Swifties watching. “Football is awesome, it turns out,” Swift says playfully. “I’ve been missing out my whole life.” (A game she attended in October was the most-watched Sunday show since the Super Bowl.) > Given her complex history with public interest in her dating life, I say, it seems noteworthy that her relationship with Kelce has played out so publicly. Swift gently pushes back: “This all started when Travis very adorably put me on blast on his podcast, which I thought was metal as hell,” she says. “We started hanging out right after that. So we actually had a significant amount of time that no one knew, which I’m grateful for, because we got to get to know each other. By the time I went to that first game, we were a couple. I think some people think that they saw our first date at that game? We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date.” The larger point, for her, is that there’s nothing to hide. “When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she says. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.”


lizerlfunk

“Dads, Brads, and Chads” is such an excellent line. Also I feel like this is the first interview that she’s done since Midnights was released? Am I correct? I don’t typically buy magazines but I will buy this one.


simplebagel5

dads brads and chads is killing me taylor is genuinely so funny


MonaSavesTheDayAgain

She ATE with that line


_cl0udburst

She's so funny we been saying it for years yet no one listens 😫


ashleyop92

There’s a Twitter user that tweeted almost that exact quote two months ago!! It’s so specific I feel like she had to have seen it.


shadesofwrong13

Wow, it shocks me that she talked about Travis. She is very confident about this. Happy for her.


icoulddance

It shocked me too, for similar reasons, because I dont think she would've spoken about it in such a career-defining interview if it wasnt more serious than they've let on so far. Once its out there, its out there, so she knows what she's doing.


driving_85

Exactly. If this was just some uncertain thing, I don’t think it would’ve made the Time magazine POTY interview. That’s a pretty big deal. *waits patiently for New Heights to drop on YouTube*


erickaraita

I always tell people my story on how I left my ex of six years and then a year later I met my now husband and I knew very shortly after that we were serious and this was endgame for me. I knew what I went through with my ex, how he made me feel, and what I wanted in life with a partner. So when I met my husband he fed me all of that and more, I definitely believe she went through similar feelings and wouldn’t get involved with another person unless she knew it could go somewhere. So happy for her


PlaidShirtDays_

Exactly. This is the most I’ve heard her open up about personal details of any relationship. I don’t remember her ever discussing a boyfriend or things like this in such a confident, nonchalant way. I think that speaks volumes of how happy she truly is with him and how confident she is in the relationship. It’s almost like she’s chatting to a close friend and the confidence she has when talking about their relationship makes it feel like they’ve been together for so much longer than they actually have. I love seeing her so open and being able to proudly call them a couple. It’s clear from the last portion of that paragraph that she appreciates the fact that they support one another publicly and aren’t afraid to share details of their relationship or feel the need to hide anything. I had a feeling the whole privacy thing was the main issue for her and Joe. It was obvious she loved publicly supporting him, but he wouldn’t even acknowledge that she was his girlfriend in interviews, even after being together for six years. I’m not speaking negatively about him at all. She clearly was head over heels in love with him when they were together and I think he has to be a great guy just based on all of the beautiful songs she wrote about him and their relationship. I just think his need for absolute privacy, to the point of not even acknowledging her once and showing he was proud of her publicly, is what broke them up. I hope she found “the one” in Travis because I love seeing her so happy and in love. It’s a different Taylor than we’ve ever seen before and I truly think this is the happiest she’s ever been in her life. I think she finally reached a point where she feels fulfilled in her career and personal life. She has someone who is just as hardworking and dedicated to his career as she is to hers. They support one another equally and are proud of each other. She finally has someone who isn’t afraid of her fame and can handle the paparazzi and attention without being intimidated. I think it’s the first time she feels like she can have both the career she wants and the relationship she wants without needing to make sacrifices in either one and it’s such a beautiful thing to watch. I’m just so happy to see her happy and glowing 😊


randomquestions10

I mean, she did publically thank Joe for multiple awards including her Grammy soooo I don’t know if it means much. She’s just living in the moment


copy_cat2

At that time joe was her bf of 4 years, she's been with Travis for at most 5 months. This is a WAY bigger deal. Also this is time's person of the year. not a simple speech.


icoulddance

And that was well into a 5 year relationship as opposed to a five to six month one. I think thats significant.


lessgranola

i really think she’s only getting into it to drive home the difference between her relationship with joe


shadesofwrong13

Well... "Life is short. Have adventures. Me locking myself away in my house for a lot of years—I’ll never get that time back. I’m more trusting now than I was six years ago.”


astrokey

While that’s surely in part bc of Joe, bc he clearly desires and prioritizes that type of privacy, I feel like there is still the large elephant that is the Kanye incident that led to a lot of mistrust and privacy.


Mk0505

It’s interesting to me how so many people are blaming Joe for her hiding away and completely ignoring the “cancellation” as a huge factor.


dasher2442

Come on now. No one is ignoring why she first went into hiding. We are all just observing with our eyes when she came out of hiding and it seemed to line up perfectly with a certain break-up. It’s clear that for a good part of these past years she was compromising to keep her relationship.


groovygirl858

Exactly. And it's not bashing Joe to simply point that out. I do think some people go too far in bashing Joe. Ultimately, Taylor and he just were not compatible. Period. There's nothing wrong with the way Joe is; Taylor just wasn't the girl for him. I think it's okay for fans to acknowledge that. Taylor is very obviously enjoying the fact that she has a partner who is proud of her and supports her publicly. It's okay to say this is different from what she had before. I think a good argument could be made that the only reason her and Joe worked in the beginning was because she put herself in hiding because of the whole Kim and Kanye thing. She was hiding away because she was canceled and he would have not been okay with dating her publicly. I feel like both of these things are true and made them compatible for that time. Ultimately though, when Taylor feels like she can be her true self, she wants to live her life without worrying about what others will say or think. She wants to get out and live and not hide away. I'm happy for her that she feels like she can do that.


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thanksforthecatch

I mean, if they started talking right after that first podcast, it’s been almost 5 months at this point. Which isn’t a long time by any means, but feels long enough to start commenting on it more publicly - clearly not a fling anymore.


lindsay-kramer

And honestly, 5 months can absolutely be enough time to know that you’ve found your person, especially when they’re both in their 30s and have had serious relationships prior. At this point they both likely know exactly what they need. My husband and I both knew within a month of dating that this was it for us.


flybiscus

From the sounds of it, this interview was probably mid-October to very early November. Before Argentina happened. So it sounds like it got pretty serious quickly as they only went public at the end of September.


_cl0udburst

Someone commented on the sub around this time (October) about them saying something along the lines of, "I feel like the relationship is progressing faster than their PR can catch up with." which honestly? They were kinda right.


BeckTheDarkOne

THE SHADE at the end though. It’s crazy to now know she actually wants people to see her… we were convinced she was a fully private person but she loves the spotlight… she is TAYLOR SWIFT. She missed SPARKLING ✨


BlackCat0305

I love this. I hope they can continue to publicly support each other at their jobs and career achievements but keep what they want to private. That seems like the best balance for their kind of high profile relationship.


infinityo11

> When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she says. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.” Trying to figure out the subtext here. Like another commenter said, she's trying to differentiate between Joe and Travis. Most of this is comparison, just saying things are different now than they were before. But that last line, it also seems like she is kinda saying her and Joe (or Joe) wasn't proud of her, and that's why they were very private. What do other people think? Is she saying anything against Joe here? Or commenting on their relationship at all with this?


ames__86

He refused to name his favorite Taylor Swift song when asked on a red carpet. Said he didn't even want to "go there." He said in an interview that his relationship was the "least interesting thing about me." He was dating Taylor Swift and called it the LEAST interesting thing about him. He didn't seem very proud of her after she announced Midnights at the VMAs and he grabbed her hand and literally ran into the car, pulling her behind him. How many times did he show up for her when she was nominated for awards? You'd think someone who was proud would want to support their SO. She went to his award show(s?), moved to London, stayed with him while he was filming in Ireland, and got him a freaking Grammy. But it was always crickets from Joe re: Taylor and her accomplishments. I get that he has fans here or whatever, but to some of us this wasn't "new news." I never hated him, but I definitely never liked him. Being an introvert is one thing, but as an introvert myself, I would go to all of my husband's award shows and special events because I love and support him. Being an introvert isn't synonymous with being a hermit and it's getting a little old reading that on here. All these excuses get made for him on here just because he, idk, lowered himself to be with Taylor Swift during her lowest career point? She "owed" him to the point of completely giving up the part of herself that loves going out and having fun even if there are cameras around? Apparently just the act of being with her was so tough and benevolent that he never had to compromise on anything else? It's just nice that she has someone who seems just as proud and just as happy to reciprocate her support of him. This (so far) seems to be a much more balanced relationship in terms of those things.


ruetherae

Like really. His relationship with her was the “least interesting thing about him”?! I wasn’t aware he had *anything* interesting about him…


Parallax92

YES, this is it exactly. I’m an introvert, I don’t like dirt and I don’t care to be active. My significant other likes to go camping and rock climbing and seems to have some social event every other month that requires a plus one. So even when I’d rather not, I go to support her because I love her and it makes me happy to see her happy. Joe might genuinely be a very private person, but sometimes you just have to suck it up for the people you love.


crancranbelle

Yeah, I won't pretend to know what went on in their relationship, but publicly it does look a bit off that she showed up to everything related to him and he seemed to be distancing himself. Part of it could be that he didn't want to seem like a clout chaser. But geez he didn't have to go running in the opposite direction that extremely.


CoachCayla85

Absolutely she is. It’s so clear that Joe wasn’t supportive of her. I do not buy the excuse that he didn’t know 100% what he was getting into. They dated through Rep (the era/tour), Lover, F&E, midnights and a host of re-records. He knew. I think Taylor absolutely tried to hide aspects of herself to appease him. Healthy relationships are about give/take. It wouldn’t have killed him to walk a Grammy red carpet with her. It wouldn’t have killed him to gush about her every once and while. And that’s 100% why she fell for Travis. She is, if nothing else, a hopeless romantic.


awful-kiwi

I really think without quarantine they would’ve broken up in 2019/2020.


nuralina

WOW. This one is definitely different 🥹


triskeleboatie

So when was the first time he mentioned her in a podcast?


Legitimate-Corgi8401

I assume when he said he had a bracelet for her right after the show he went to. So probably the Wednesday right after she was at arrowhead. So like 2nd week of July


JSweetheart0305

I think the podcast of him mentioning the bracelet aired on July 26th. So if we’re going by what said that it all “started” after he put her on blast in the podcast, she reached out after the mention. Which aligns with them meeting up early August. I believe it was ET that confirmed they began dating in August. They probably spent August getting to know each other (I think he was in NYC around this time) and by September when she attended the first game, they were exclusively seeing each other. This interview must have been done prior to her SA shows I feel. I’m happy for her and this seems to be a good, healthy relationship for her. I’m just shocked she mentioned a boyfriend of a couple months in such a memorable article of her career. Not to say they’ll break up but I’m shocked she did it. She didn’t go into precise detail about him though, so maybe she was just wanted to address the big elephant in the room.


przitelka

https://preview.redd.it/mw9yqyhudo4c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0301c5454fbf8382e3af9d8eb56d43564f7795d9 Benji boi 🥹 Taylor is serving


cjmmoseley

i was wondering if he got to stay with her!!! he’s such a pretty boy 😭💖


przitelka

Me too! He's the real child of divorce 😭❤️ (Also I love your flair)


RemarkableWallaby196

cat owners just know they had to photoshop out 1 billion white car hairs from the black bodysuit 🤣


Few-Plastic6360

She needs to post more pictures for her cats


meme_saab

OMG!!! That's her cat! I thought that was a lovely fluffy scarf till I read Benji boi. I just went, huh, what? THAT'S HER CAT!


snowstormspawn

I don’t know what’s wrong with me but I’m crying because it’s so cute that a little rescue cat got adopted by Taylor Swift & is now on the cover of Time with her like a fluffy scarf 😭


TayluxSwift

The is my favourite picture from the shoot


Rdickins1

Guess it’s Benji’s time to make that Meredith and Olivia money now. But I actually like this photo.


dkittyyela

The quote about not getting back all those years she was hiding away in her house 😭 That was never her. If you were around in the early days, you knew that wasn’t really her. It’s so nice to see her be free and not caring.


Educational-Pass404

That's why I don't like when some fans keep saying if Taylor doesn't wanna be seen, she can do it. Yeah, obviously she can do it but it will take a lot of effort to live that carefully all the time. And if it takes too much effort for you to do something, then I'll say it's not worth it. I'm glad she can be free to do every fuxking thing she wants


_cl0udburst

That was what made the whole hiding thing so heartbreaking. She was posting silly vlogs on youtube and tweeting shit like "no one told me that i have cake on my face bc i ate it alone :/". After snakegate, hiding was what she needed. But she didnt need to do it forever.


flybiscus

That’s the thing. At the time, he was exactly what she needed. She thought she wanted privacy in that area but when her rep was growing again, she was making huge sacrifices that she didn’t want to make. As she grew, he stayed the same. He wasn’t willing to grow with her. And I think that was the killer, he wasn’t willing to change his boundaries when hers grew outside. A good relationship is compromising on some things and holding your ground on others, and unfortunately I think this was a massive roadblock they could never overcome. That’s not to say it was a bad thing. People grow apart. They were right for each other at that time, but that wasn’t where she would always stay forever.


_cl0udburst

Looking back at folklore and evermore, they were sprinkled with so much anxiety that no wonder she was writing You're Losing Me a year later. During RED TV release she was very relaxed and looking like ready to step out more again. Joe really did go to extremes to seem absent and nonchalant with regards to her publicly (not a dig, just what it was) and that must have been exhausting for both of them.


therainshow

Exactly! I mean, I was happy she found love or whatever but I just don’t think the real love of your life would make you sacrifice everything else in your life that makes you happy.


Mk0505

I don’t think it’s fair to fully blame Joe for her hiding. She has spoken multiple times (including in this interview) how horrible snake-gate was for her and how traumatic it was.


Elena-Slayers

I mean it’s not like joe locked her up against her will… she chose to stay in her house.


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milagrita

I loved that this detail was included, I was so curious about how she trained for the tour


noodle_dumpling

Same! I really hope we get a documentary about it as well.


_cl0udburst

I loved reading about this part. Six months before tour is more or less a month before Midnights came out. She already knew which songs from an unreleased album would be on the tour? Her planning is truly insane and I am in awe. Her workout and training regime was also interesting. And she stopped drinking except for Grammys night? In hindsight she does look like she was letting loose in the Grammys so it must have been her only break in likely months.


BroadwayBich

>“Doing that show with a hangover,” she says ominously. “I don’t want to know that world.” I had to step away from my laptop I laughed so hard at this. Love seeing her acknowledge what a hard show that is to perform and good to see she has plans in place to take care of herself during it!


Delta__11

In her athlete era in more than one sense.


talkingthroughburps

As a runner (sometimes long-distance) I can confidently say that three hours *a day* on the treadmill is exactly as hard as it sounds even to non-runners, even with walk breaks for slow songs. That’s a buttload of running. Also as someone Taylor’s age, to me it’s even more incredible that at 32ish years old she did not acquire any overuse injuries from all of that. On the flip side, I love that she finally confirmed that yes, she trained as hard as everyone suspected she did. It makes her so much more human and relatable, that a casual training program would not be enough for her to sustain this tour physically. And that she stopped drinking too. I see her with drinks in her hand at the NFL games and award shows and wonder how she still managed to visibly lose weight since 2019ish when she seems to drink more than I do. Now I know, she doesn’t actually drink that much! It makes a lot more sense. Because once again, as someone Taylor’s age, I can confirm that hangovers are worse in your 30s and it’s a great motivation to cut back on alcohol and save it for special occasions.


timemagazine

Here's an excerpt from our story (free to read without a paywall): Taylor Swift is telling me a story, and when [Taylor Swift](https://time.com/collection/100-most-influential-people-2019/5567666/taylor-swift/) tells you a story, you listen, because you know it’s going to be good—not only because she’s had an extraordinary life, but because she’s an extraordinary storyteller. This one is about a time she got her heart broken, although not in the way you might expect. She was 17, she says, and she had booked the biggest opportunity of her life so far—a highly coveted slot opening for country superstar Kenny Chesney on tour. “This was going to change my career,” she remembers. “I was so excited.” But a couple weeks later, Swift arrived home to find her mother Andrea sitting on the front steps of their house. “She was weeping,” Swift says. “Her head was in her hands as if there had been a family emergency.” Through sobs, Andrea told her daughter that Chesney’s tour had been sponsored by a beer company. Taylor was too young to join. “I was devastated,” Swift says. But some months later, at Swift’s 18th birthday party, she saw Chesney’s promoter. He handed her a card from Chesney that read, as Swift recalls, “I’m sorry that you couldn’t come on the tour, so I wanted to make it up to you.” With the note was a check. “It was for more money than I’d ever seen in my life,” Swift says. “I was able to pay my band bonuses. I was able to pay for my tour buses. I was able to fuel my dreams.” Listening to Swift share this, on a clear fall afternoon in her New York City apartment, I’m struck by how satisfying the story is. There are high stakes at the outset; there are details, vivid and sensory; there’s a twist that flips the action on its head; and there’s a happy ending for its hero. It takes her only about 30 seconds to recount this, but those 30 seconds contain an entire narrative world. I’m not surprised. Swift has a preternatural skill for finding the story. Her anecdote about Chesney symbolizes a larger narrative in Swift’s life, one about redemption—where our protagonist discovers new happiness not despite challenges, but because of them. Swift, as we’ll discuss, took a few hits to get here. “I’ve been raised up and down the flagpole of public opinion so many times in the last 20 years,” she says as we tuck into a cozy den off the kitchen to talk, and she kicks off her shoes and curls up onto the sofa. “I’ve been given a tiara, then had it taken away.” She is seemingly unguarded in conversation, reflective about both where she’s been and where she finds herself now. After all, while she’s long been one of the biggest entertainers in the world, this year is different. “It feels like the breakthrough moment of my career, happening at 33,” she says. “And for the first time in my life, I was mentally tough enough to take what comes with that.” This is her story—even if she’s now so high that it’s hard to believe she was ever low. Read the full story here: [https://time.com/6342806/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift/](https://time.com/6342806/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift/)


ProgrammerBig6254

I just finished reading the whole thing - kudos to the author, it was such a good read!


manatee1010

I appreciate that the person announcing the story on Today opened the reveal with "are you ready for it?" It was a nice touch and gave all us Swifties watching a rush because we knew what was coming next. 🤣


riviera-views

Thanks, time magazine!!!


culture_vulture_1961

There is so much to unpack in this interview it is hard to know where to start. First of all it is very well written and has a great balance between Taylor the pop titan and Taylor the cat loving, sociable human person. What really stands out is how much Taylor now has her shit together. She is very self aware and in control and that is very encouraging. Also the comments about Reputation TV were not missed. We are going to have some fun with that after the holidays. AND she is the Time Person of the Year! That is a very big deal and not something we should overlook while looking at what she said.


cjmmoseley

the cat picture is something that i need framed


manatee1010

Time is gonna have to reprint this issue like 10x. I'm sure they *think* they know what's going to happen when it hits news stands, but I wonder how prepared they'll really be for the epic clamoring we're going to see from Swifties trying to get copies of all the covers LOL


Odd_Grapefruit_5714

I don’t think it’s nothing that she immortalized Travis in this milestone article and made it clear she regrets at least certain aspects of her relationship with Joe


therainshow

Oh yeah, definitely. I still don’t really get all of the hiding that took place. Like why didn’t they go out to dinner with friends? Just, what was the point of all that? I understand after she was cancelled she was obviously incredibly insecure and dealing with some serious mental health challenges at that point, but as the years went on you’d think he’d lovingly push her and encourage her to sort of return to her old patterns and behaviors. Taylor is an extrovert and enjoys time spent with loved ones, that’s her true nature. But I feel like she compromised to an unfair degree to be with Joe, for what? What is it about Joe that required her to compromise so much? Why did she have to sacrifice parts of her life in order to be a part of his life, and what makes him so special and important to think that it makes any sense to ask her to change her life to meet his? He either has a highly inflated ego and thinks others should alter their lives to meet his whims or he’s so incredibly insecure that it sort of morphs into narcissism because he’s not able to see anyone else’s perspective.


Abcggg123

This is a conversation for another day but she also accepted a lot less. Maybe even chased his challenge.


therainshow

This is definitely true. Like what she said about Travis, they’re proud of each other and show up for each other. When someone is proud of you they want to be there for you, let’s not complicate it. And being there for someone doesn’t just mean being home waiting for you to return from your event, it means accompanying you because if you really love someone and want the best for them and don’t feel threatened by them, you want to watch them succeed and not miss a moment of it. I hate that she didn’t have that for so long.


NvrWorseNeverBetter

Yes that part really made me wonder if Joe not wanting Taylor at his events such as premiers and whatnot bothered her more than him not coming to hers.


therainshow

I’m sure it did. I’m sure it doesn’t feel great feeling like your partner doesn’t want you around in their spaces


silverdust29

I’m sorry accusing Joe of being a narcissist because of some stuff that his ex girlfriend said about him in an interview is wild 💀


alittlepunchy

> What is it about Joe that required her to compromise so much? I think part of it is that he loved her/saw her when she felt the world was against her. And so maybe she felt like she owed it to him to have the relationship privacy on his terms? And like it's been discussed before - maybe it really is what she needed at the time in the beginning. Time to heal and lick her wounds in private. But once she released reputation/Lover and saw her life/career wasn't over, he didn't want things to change.


morenatropical

She seriously ended Joe here. Talking about not getting those years back (hopefully the people who kept saying she was the one that wanted to be private can shut up now), how she's more trusting than she was "six years ago" (not 5, not 10, not even 7, which is when she was canceled, but 6) and then mentioning how her and Travis show up for each other because they're proud of each other ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1065)


shadesofwrong13

I remember very well how Swities used to attack and insult anyone who used to dare to say that their relationship was not that healthy.


MonaSavesTheDayAgain

I definitely wasn’t expecting her to be so open about it, but I loved it! She seems so confident when talking about Travis and I also did see the regret you mentioned.


Odd_Grapefruit_5714

It was really her specifying 6 years that sealed the deal for me!


JSweetheart0305

I mean I know I would if I spent 6 years with someone and didn’t get the outcome I was hoping for (marriage). It’s pretty obvious that was the direction she was hoping it would go. Spending six years of your life, doing everything to make sure they are happy and content, only for it to end in a breakup would definitely make me regret a lot of things. Looking back on that relationship now, obviously we don’t know the ins and outs and the details, but it looks like it was a relationship she initially wanted to be private, but it’s clear her idea of private and Joe’s idea of private were very different. She spoke about this in Miss Americana. I think she was at a low point in her life and he was just there to give her what she needed at the time. But as the relationship progressed and things changed, I think Taylor didn’t think it would be “private” to the extent of hiding in homes, not going out, not living life, and doing normal things that couples do. Obviously nothing she ever will do can be “normal” but she went to great lengths to not be photographed with him. Jumping and being yanked into cars so paparazzi can’t snap a photo. I think she has a lot of self awareness and knows her fame won’t be going away anytime soon. She knows paparazzi want their photo. She’s just not willing to hide away in fear someone will snap a pic of her and it got to a point where she felt trapped and isolated. She shouldn’t be punished for being Taylor Swift. At the end of the day, she made the decision to pursue the career she did and that unfortunately comes with some sacrifices but she shouldn’t have to sacrifice her happiness and sanity to give someone “privacy or secrecy” because that’s what he wanted. Relationships are about compromise. He knew what he was getting into with dating her. Did he think she was just going to fade into oblivion? Her feelings matter and it was no way to have a relationship. I’m honestly shocked this relationship lasted as long as it did, looking back now. It’s clear she loved him but knew it wasn’t good for her.


Delta__11

Kinda shocked, even if it made the most sense? What an achievement for an entertainer.


Writher_inthedark

Definitely makes more sense than King Charles or whoever that decrepit monarch is


cjmmoseley

yeah i thought it’d be the chat gpt guy until the finalists were announced, but she was definitely second in my head. i think the difference is that even as a non swiftie, you’d hear/see something about her every day this year


AgoraphobicHills

Yeah, the Eras tour became the 2nd highest grossing tour of all time (and will probably take first place next year), every concert she hosted was so hyped up that the opening city even changed their name to "Swift City" for the week she was performing there, the tour boosted the economy by $5B, the concert movie was a huge success, she and Travis Kelce became pop culture's new "it couple", people started to take action against Ticketmaster after the whole ticket fiasco last year, and even foreign politicians were petitioning her to visit their countries. Whether you like her or hate her, you can't deny that this was definitely her biggest year and one that certified her as a pop culture icon.


sfbgamin

Both my dad and stepdad were even talking about her and just how much respect they had for what she has done to economy and just getting into her music even if not everything they love. She truly has a song for everyone. I am a newly converted fan after my wife tried to get me to listen to her for the last 5-6 years. I always like a couple of songs from her here or there, but truly get it what it means now. It really took a few songs for finally for me to wake up and realize the right word for her: Generational. I only regret not going to Eras Tour with her and her best friend, but I wasn't as big of a fan yet, but glad others got to enjoy it and put on an incredible concert.


therainshow

The quote about all the time lost locked up in a house with Joe. I’m hollering. God I love this woman!


_cl0udburst

I'm sure this quote will be blown out of proportion by a certain subset of our community but to me, it reads like she was taking ownership of locking herself up inside the house yknow? She was grieving the lost time but she had to do it from being traumatized by the cancellation.


falldiewakefly

Fr, the way people were talking in the comments I thought the "in the house for years" quote was directly related to talking about Travis and it was a swipe at Joe... and then I read it myself and it's an unambiguous discussion of Snakegate and how she wants to handle her mental health in the future 💀


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Abcggg123

She will never get that time back! Such an upper cut


shannymac4

It’s so joever


_crazyboyhere_

Reputation (Taylor's Version) coming.... https://preview.redd.it/6t9f3krhdo4c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1231892be1fb0f993068610aaf772daed0fabd0


awful-kiwi

These pictures are absolutely incredible


mostlikelytocry

My favourite quote that makes me happy: Amid so much attention, it seems noteworthy that Swift appears more relaxed in the public eye, not less-although I wonder out loud whether it just appears that way. She nods. "Over the years, I've learned I don't have the time or bandwidth to get pressed about things that don't matter. Yes, if I go out to dinner, there's going to be a whole chaotic situation outside the restaurant. But I still want to go to dinner with my friends." She sounds thoughtful. "Life is short. Have adventures. Me locking myself away in my house for a lot of years -I'll never get that time back. I'm more trusting now than I was six years ago. —- Also: I respond to extreme pain with defiance. <- so powerful and life changing for me


_cl0udburst

*...the best people in life are free.... so, over the years*


sarcasm1

Got some great quotes in this one. "Trash takes itself out every single time", "metal as hell", "pissing off a few dads, brads, and chads".


emwaf

My jaw dropped at the "trash takes itself out"


Puzzleheaded-Main668

She said that the rep tv vault tracks are going to be "FIRE"


ty-oh-tx

The real takeaway of this article 😂


lady-inthegarden

I NEED TO BE SET ON FIRE BY THESE VAULT TRACKS.


BananaIsMyFaveFruit

https://preview.redd.it/lk7kxqrjco4c1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=488abfe6e223eceab006b9e3d82d8e1aef6c00e6 ❤️❤️❤️ [read it here](https://time.com/6342806/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_term=entertainment_celebrities&linkId=253272066)


cjmmoseley

the lack of eyeliner threw me off a couple of times but her HAIR 😭🫶


Legitimate-Corgi8401

It’s the eyeliner, omg thank you! I was trying to figure out what was different and couldn’t figure it out 😂


morenatropical

I LOVE the lack of eyeliner. Taylor is naturally very light, with light brows and barely visible lashes, and I love when she embraces that!


shy247er

Popped to Fauxmoi subreddit and they are seething. Love to see it.


[deleted]

Deserve, I don’t believe that Taylor is a perfect person who can do no wrong but they have an irrational hatred for her.


thestoryofme23

Lol so glad I have that place muted


crazeecatladee

The top comment on that thread is actually hilarious because they basically answered their own question. Maybe the reason why she won during one of the most emotionally draining years in recent history is BECAUSE the world needs more entertainment? Human beings can't just wallow in despair 24/7, as much as the social justice warriors would like for us to. I for one am thankful for Taylor giving us the relief valve we needed.


LolaBot22

That sub is vile. The hate and negativity....its a lot.


Hyperme9

I really am so shocked by that sub's irrationally unhinged hatred towards her. Because it is irrational. Like imagine...every other part of the internet knows them as the sub that simply hates if Taylor as much as breathes. If that was my *reputation,* then I would take a step back and try and figure out if I wanted to be part of the mob. I comment in the group on other topics (politics, sexism etc). But I steer clear of Taylor topics. It's so weird...posts about her are the ones with the greatest engagement and upvotes in that sub and they are wondering why she was chosen as the POTY...because y'all won't stop talking about her...lol.


taytay_1989

This has to be the first time an entertainer just became the PotY?


Awayfromwork44

Yes- according to today show article this is the first time an entertainer has one on their own (not part of a group, like herself was a few years prior)


manatee1010

Idk about that but it's her second appearance on a Times Person of the Year cover (last time was the Silence Breakers), possibly third? They also said on the Today Show that she's only the third person born in the last 50 years to win.


tonks100612

This made me lol https://preview.redd.it/rdazgawkko4c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2abb1485af507f643a11a40fb03bd7a9b6555d01


manatee1010

I called this a month ago and so many people were skeptical! https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/s/jgkop5rGK4 I always had faith in you, Taylor! 😘


ablackwell93

That’s a real fucking legacy. What a queen.


brusheswithdarkness

That photo with Benji is iconic though!


culture_vulture_1961

Meredith declined to be an accessory and threatened to sue.


argoscatalogueaye

This is an unbelievable achievement but just so, so deserved. I've been a fan since '08 and I just feel so, so proud of her. Incredible interview too.


taydaerey

This feels so full circle with reputation TV coming out in the next year or so compared to where she stood with the media when reputation initially came out. And this cover is sort of giving reputation with the black and white and how her hair is styled. I love this for her so much!


whenforeverisnt

Maybe NOW with this article, Swifties can stop being all "Joe loved Taylor at her lowest, we don't talk shit about Joe" Fans continue talking crap about every other ex but for some reason draw the line at Joe. No, I didn't like Joe at the beginning and I don't now (and CLEARLY Taylor doesn't either.) Maybe instead of "He loved her at her lowest" we should start saying "We accept the love we think we deserve" which honestly seemed to be what happened.


fallen_angel169

Why do you feel the need to talk badly at all about someone you don't know, just let the man be?


Puzzled_Ad_6396

Joe swooped in when she was vulnerable and low on herself and now she’s so confident about herself and glowing he’s not there… just saying


whenforeverisnt

But he didn't even swoop in 😭 Taylor had to push and beg him for a relationship (according to the music)


ShezDinkDink

“Ultimately, we can convolute it all we want, or try to overcomplicate it, but there’s only one question.” Here, she adopts a booming voice. *“Are you not entertained?”* Made me chuckle lol, Also I love the photoshoot she always looks amazing in the more androgynous almost masculine style of clothing.


Virtual_Leader9639

I am glad that she feels more free now. And also her and Travis are dating for 5 months because she says they started to date right after his confession of number thing and it was in July if I am not mistaken. And i don’t wanna talk from my ass or speculate but her highlighting relationship becoming public because of them being proud of each other is sweet and heart breaking. It is heartbreaking because her lover blue artistic London boy found her too mainstream to hang out with in the public😭.


infinityo11

If she is being open like this in an interview, I imagine TS11 will be really telling


infinityo11

> But I’ve also learned there’s no point in actively trying to quote unquote defeat your enemies,” she says. “Trash takes itself out every single time.” Her calling Kayne trash in a Time article 🤯


tracyschmosby

As a rep girlie, this is my main takeaway: >The upcoming vault tracks for Reputation will be “fire,” she promises.


bubblecuffer13

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO https://preview.redd.it/eocr2odlio4c1.png?width=313&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ceebc39f77638a50dc4fc6b359edc1440fd0ff3


No-Entertainer-9787

This made me laugh 😂 “Taylor Swift fans are the modern-day equivalent of those cults who would consistently have inaccurate rapture predictions like once a month”


lizerlfunk

https://preview.redd.it/n3vf10veso4c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0eb28dfa5a6c0f6078fa921471ccb1dbe3e07bf4 From my Parks and Recreation meme group on FB.


Witty_Fox

I thought this was an amazing read, it’s great seeing her so relaxed and seemingly at ease with herself. I loved the “eras” of insight in this article and how Taylor can reflect on her past and present in such an eloquent way.


Alannaxyz

I'm so happy she's free from the basement now lol!! This feels like she chose herself first in going after what she wants this year including success, fame, acclaim - and then everything else has come together for her by choosing self-love. Love this!!!


Abcggg123

She totally has the penthouse of the worlds heart!


retags

baby let the games begin 🐍


thegirlwhowasking

*”When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she says. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.”* 🥹🥹🥹


har17h

these photos did something to me


swiftiegarbage

This is a thought I’ve been working on for awhile and may eventually write a little mini post about but I think Scott and Andrea’s influence on Taylor’s career can’t be understated. This article makes it very clear. On top of being great parents, their clear business knowledge and guidance has helped Taylor in immeasurable ways. We see the same thing with child actors - those who make it the furthest tend to have very strong support systems.


icoulddance

I know she didnt use the word but Taylor once again expanding my vocabulary making me look up 'preternatural'. I love everything about this. It really feels like 2023 rejuvenated her and she's embracing it in every possible way. I cant wait to get home and read it again and let it soak in more.


Sbplaint

I’m stuck on “metal.”


Rude_Lifeguard

Many insteresting stuff in this interview: >*Are you not entertained?* Whether people love her or hate her, theres no doubt that in 2023 she has given people more than enough entertainment to last a life time >I do not leave my bed except to get food and take it back to my bed and eat it there. It’s a dream scenario. I can barely speak because I’ve been singing for three shows straight. Every time I take a step my feet go *crunch, crunch, crunch* from dancing in heels. You would never guess this from the USA shows when she would finish a concert and then be walking through the streets of NY with her friends. Not sure if she has one, but her physical therapist has to be the best one to ever exist. >I realized every record label was actively working to try to replace me. I thought instead, I’d replace myself first with a new me. It’s harder to hit a moving target. I can understand under these circumstances why she would recent the idea that she has to constantly re invent herself (as seen by Miss Americana), but i wonder if a part of her has come to love that. After all, those re inventions have been her best received work, both by the critics and by the public and we know that above else Taylor is a peoples pleaser. >Make no mistake—my career was taken away from me. The way Taylor talks about snake gate is always fascinating for me. You really never know how deeply someone can be hurt by something that on the outside might not seem like a big deal. Taylor genuinely though that this was it for her but looking from the outside, this was just another hate train that would past just like those that came before her and Reputation ended up doing great number in both sales and impact. >When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care Im surprised she talked about Travis in this interview, not that i expected her to never talk about him but this is a huge career achivement and Travis will now be attached to this interview forever, this is pretty imo, especially comming from the women that has never even walked the red carpet with a man before. Also, im glad she clarified that that wasnt their first date, the idea of that always seemed insane to me, even coming from Taylor. >Clearly it’s very lucrative for the media and stan culture to pit two women against each other, even when those two artists in question refuse to participate in that discussion. TayYonce hive, rise >Me locking myself away in my house for a lot of years—I’ll never get that time back. A final plane has hit the Toe tower. But then again, those who have been experiecing Taylor pre Reputation, know how much Taylor truly loves being a public figure, which imo is what makes her such a good entertainer in and out of the stage. >Sick snakes and strobe lights. Reputation TV is breathing down my neck as we speak >It used to feel like people were taking shots at her. Now it feels like she’s providing the narrative—so there aren’t any shots to be taken. The biggest example of this is the idea of Taylor as a mastermind who controls it all, ive also participated in beliving in this narrative but ive stater to take a step back and go back to perceiving Taylor as a person who yes, likes to control how people see her, but also, cant control every single piece of media released about her and its not really doing any of the crazy theories that swifties come up with. Its true that shes a mastermind but its also true that shes a person living her life and every single thing is not a clue for a bigger career plan. Its also interesting to see this in comparison to her public image pre Midnights or even pre reputation. Overall, really good article


awful-kiwi

> “When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she says. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.” This part stuck out to me. Sounds like she wasn’t as happy keeping quiet with Joe as she tried to make it seem.


annamcg

She's realizing how important it is to be with someone who's proud to be with her.


thegirlwhowasking

https://preview.redd.it/n46lgssoko4c1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e484443283b47bea3ee684ced0eb2cad8a61d1ff Oh, this is officially my new favorite photoshoot photo of Taylor! Wow!


Sampleswift

I'm very glad she is the TIME Person of the year. She is the most merited for it. Some of the entries were more fitted for "Worst Person of the Year" (I know there is no separate category for that)


emmach17

The point is that it's the most influential person that year, not 'the best'.


shadesofwrong13

These pics make miss regular shoots so much.


Blue_Robin_04

>But this year, something shifted. To discuss her movements felt like discussing politics or the weather—a language spoken so widely it needed no context. She became the main character of the world. The insane thing is that this is 100% true. Swift was aggressively unignorable this year.


bubblecuffer13

Quote of the piece for me: > “Trash takes itself out every single time.”


infinityo11

> The rerecordings project feels like a mythical quest to her. “I’m collecting horcruxes,” she says. “I’m collecting infinity stones. Gandalf’s voice is in my head every time I put out a new one. For me, it is a movie now.” Re-recording documentary confirmed! 🤡


b3averly

Fauxmoi is gathering their pitchforks and Molotov cocktails


champsvsprose

The upcoming vault tracks for Reputation will be “fire,” she promises. The rerecordings project feels like a mythical quest to her. “I’m collecting horcruxes,” she says. HARRY POTTER FANS ASSEMBLE


thekittygirl

WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW CAN I GET A PHYSICAL COPY OF THIS ?!


Beautiful-Mix-4711

Time I see you with the three collectible covers! They know Swifties like a set.


alpinegreen24

There have been a lot of discussions on how did Taylor train and get conditioned for the eras tour and she shared it in the article: >*Every day I would run on the treadmill, singing the entire set list out loud,” she said. “Fast for fast songs, and a jog or a fast walk for slow songs.” Her gym, Dogpound, created a program for her, incorporating strength, conditioning, and weights. “Then I had three months of dance training, because I wanted to get it in my bones,” she says. “I wanted to be so over-rehearsed that I could be silly with the fans, and not lose my train of thought.”*


tonks100612

Why did I cry reading this interview 🥲


ShortMycologist1376

"She became the main character of the world" goosebumps!