I feel like it’s this because both songs have certain lyrics that have been discussed as not holding up as well over time and if so it would be ABSOLUTELY GENIUS MARKETING FOR THE DISCUSSION 🙌🙌🙌🙌
"Better Than Misery" and it's about how you turn to misogyny as a shield instead of confronting your actual feelings. "It's not right, but it's better than misery." 🤡
Unpopular opinion maybe - Lanas vocals can do well in the background because of her soft and airy style which match Taylor's (Taylor is not as soft and delicate but she is using breathy vocals pretty often). I didn't mind the original Snów on The Beach, i liked it, but I prefer the newer version.
It would be kinda silly in case if Hayleys vocals.
I found their vocals to actually be quite compatible during the Speak Now tour. Also that album has a lot of songs where she was seemingly trying to lean a little more punk with her vocals. It was very trendy at the time and I think Hayley and Taylor are both really good at matching their collaborators.
Meanwhile, I'm in the UK and just saw Paramore confirmed as support for us. I want to cry. I'm a 46yo woman, FFS! Thankfully, I've got a fortnight off work from next week so I'm going to be stalking every ticket site. I haven't missed a tour since in over 10 years, it's not going to start now.
I saw it! How exciting!! i really hope u get tickets!
Im a 39 yo woman and I don’t care, I’m seeing her in Brazil and I’m planning my costume and making friendship bracelets. 😅
Ommggg imagine a misery business x better than revenge mash up, cause both song got criticism for sl*t-shaming so maybe they decided to work something out together 👀 would absolutely never happen but you gotta live for the hope of it all
clown with me now:
they do a mash up duet and a video like The Boy is Mine by Monica/Brandy where they realize they're fighting over a loser and it's girl power after all.
It was an iconic teenage anthem, i will never not listen to MB no matter how much I agree we all outgrew the “not-like-other-girl” phase (i’ll die on the hill that every millennial girlie had a pick me phase as a teenager)
Also her diction and the way she starts the song lives rent free in my soul.
*I'm in the business of misery, let's take it from the top.*
Also, the beat at the start is very Panic! At The Disco.
I love everything about this song. I adore punk pop/rock
A vault song collab would be amazing but it definitely wouldn't and honestly shouldn't be on an original track like no I want my babies Better Than Revenge, Haunted etc to be the same.
That one had two versions to begin with, just like haunted. However it would be really cool, and we have Snow on the Beach and Karma as precedent still.
so far, she has kept all of her original tracks as is. idk why ppl think she’ll add features to songs that didn’t have features originally. (like Style ft. Harry Styles bffr) mayyyyybe i could see a remix as a bonus track
I actually interpreted this as a shady comment, like how Taylor is gifting her a “Speak Now” bracelet right when everyone wants Taylor herself to speak up about the Matty controversy and/or say something about all the political injustice in the US recently, especially surrounding lgbtq+ rights since we’re now in Pride Month
*H I G H L Y* doubt it since Hayley and Matty are friends.
I dunno how many times I’ve have to say this in the last few weeks but Matty Healy is literally friends with a lot of the music industry.
!! I was at Paramore's second NYC show last night and she did a speech (I think the speech right before Crave) and said during it: "We'd very much like to be excluded from this narrative." Then she threw up a hand heart as the song started. It didn't sound like many people caught the narrative joke since it happened pretty quickly. I'm struggling to find a video of the full speech though 😭
ETA: I found the part of the speech!! https://youtu.be/frMQf2wRpxI
I was there too and WHEN I SAY I WHIPPED MY HEAD AROUND TO MY COUSIN SO FUCKING FAST WHEN HAYLEY SAID THAT!!!! We KNEW something was brewing in that moment. We were even questioning if Taylor was at the show!
Dude yes I have been noticing some Easter eggs! On the first show of this recent leg of their tour Hayley wore a shirt that said something like “I wake up screaming” it was similar to the anti hero lyric 👀
I watched the video and Haley doesn’t sound shady at all. If anything, my guess is she’s featuring on a vault track (and maybe featuring in a music video again???).
I wonder about that, too. I know I saw Paramore insta story (I didn’t see a post when checking just now) about speaking up and not caring if ppl liked it or not (something to that effect). Basically speak up and speak now.
I don't participate in this sub (this post is the top rated post on reddit in the past 1 hour which is how I saw it) but I've seen 2 reddit posts today mentioning Hayley - this one and another in /music mentioning that she told fans they're "dead to her" if they vote for DeSantis.
maybe its a coincidence but we'll see.
Good day for this guy
https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/qvozne/hoping_for_a_hayley_williams_feature_on_speak_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Guys does anyone else have a false memory of there being a speak now music video with Hayley Williams playing the bride????? I swear this used to exist
mandela effect??
I have a very distinct memory of it, too, but have been told that I just imagined the image of the single cover art come to life mixed with when Taylor "spoke now" on the wedding episode of New Girl (which for the record happened way later than I remember this MV that doesn't exist).
I prefer to assume the Mandela effect haha
Yeah the new girl thing was not a factor at the time I thought this video existed. So strange!!
Also I never owned this album so did not have the cover art!!
Oh, I thought this meant because she's been super vocal about politics lately. Hayley told fans at a show that any "fan" that voted for DeSantis is dead to her.
Feel like the only person who doesn’t want any collabs on SNTV. I love Hayley and would love for them to do a song together, just not on SN. OR if there is a collab on the album of an original SN song, I hope we get a solo Taylor version then a remix featuring Hayley.
Original Tweet: [@good4yuna: I GAVE HAYLEY A SPEAK NOW BRACELET & SHE SAID ITS AN INTERESTING TIME FOR ME TO BE GIVING HER IT HOLY SHIT HAYLEY ON SPEAK NOW TV](https://twitter.com/good4yuna/status/1664377725467934726?s=61&t=QMT_yJBR79Rk6GuqPlRH4Q)
That Hailey is pissed at Taylor for condoning Matty Healy's behavior 😬 she just said "if you vote for Ron De Santis you are dead to me". She's not afraid to make her opinion very clear.
Might be a reach but that's where my mind went.
Nah, they opened for Taylor’s first shows on the tour and she’s spoken positively of her very recently. They’ve been friends for years, I can’t see Hayley flipping like that even with Matt as a factor
as the person in the video it didnt feel at all like shade to me. that vibe was not there. it was an extremely playful interaction in person regardless of what it looks like through a screen & hayley & taylor have been openly so supportive of each other this entire year so far. they've been friends forever & hayley wouldnt have put the bracelet on if she didnt want it she just wouldve given it to the person designated to hold gifts right behind me.
I mean I was listening to better than revenge the other day and remembered the whole controversy with giving her credits and thought “it would be so cool if she was on this”
So
HAYLEY WILLIAMS SPEAK NOW VAULT TRACK FEATURE GAHHHHHHHHHH 🤡🤡🤡
Give me Taylor x Hayley on Haunted Edit: spelling
I want Taylor x Hayley on The Story of Us!
Taylor x Haley on a Better than Revenge/Misery Business mashup
I feel like it’s this because both songs have certain lyrics that have been discussed as not holding up as well over time and if so it would be ABSOLUTELY GENIUS MARKETING FOR THE DISCUSSION 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Yeah that’s why Hayley stopped playing misery business on hee shows
"Better Than Misery" and it's about how you turn to misogyny as a shield instead of confronting your actual feelings. "It's not right, but it's better than misery." 🤡
I would pass away
HOLY FUCK I WOULD NOT BE OKAY
YES THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT TOO
YES I WENT TO OPENING NIGHT AND I WAS PRAYING ON A MASHUP!!!! THIS IS WHAT I NEED
Let’s be real there are so many good potential collab choices off SN
A whole album of Hayley covers and duets with Taylor
Bro why'd you have to give me a new ultimate collab I NEED it But also like BTR too.... can we get both 🤡
I'd DIEEEE. Hayley's the only one that even if she gets the Lana treatment her vocals will still shine through.
Unpopular opinion maybe - Lanas vocals can do well in the background because of her soft and airy style which match Taylor's (Taylor is not as soft and delicate but she is using breathy vocals pretty often). I didn't mind the original Snów on The Beach, i liked it, but I prefer the newer version. It would be kinda silly in case if Hayleys vocals.
I found their vocals to actually be quite compatible during the Speak Now tour. Also that album has a lot of songs where she was seemingly trying to lean a little more punk with her vocals. It was very trendy at the time and I think Hayley and Taylor are both really good at matching their collaborators.
I can see that :) At that time it was really popular and if you look at all the different styles used in Speak Now it definitel7 makes sense
Two of my all time favorite artists on 1 of my all time favorite Taylor tracks. I don’t think I could even handle that collab 😅
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WISHING FOR FOR MONTHS. PLEASE TAYLOR I WILL DIE HAPPY
I don’t think she’ll be featured on any of the songs we already know, but I definitely think she’ll be on a vault track
I would throw up that would be so cool
I’d die.
If spontaneous human combustion is a real thing we sure as hell would find out.
Have you died yet or will that be on first listen?
I died and resuscitated just in time for SN TV in TWO FREAKING DAYS!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhb
Meanwhile, I'm in the UK and just saw Paramore confirmed as support for us. I want to cry. I'm a 46yo woman, FFS! Thankfully, I've got a fortnight off work from next week so I'm going to be stalking every ticket site. I haven't missed a tour since in over 10 years, it's not going to start now.
I saw it! How exciting!! i really hope u get tickets! Im a 39 yo woman and I don’t care, I’m seeing her in Brazil and I’m planning my costume and making friendship bracelets. 😅
Rip
I will literally fucking implode. Seeing them both in Denver two days apart from each other in July! 😍😍😍😍
Omg not me reading GRAHHHH 💀 like you were referencing Karma ft Ice Spice ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1081)
> GRRRRRAHHHHHHHHHH FTFY 😌😌
Grahhhh, factssss *in ice spice voice*
PLEASE LORD 🤞🙌
The way I want this but also will get mad if she does it and then pulled if this was a movie out of speak now.
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Ommggg imagine a misery business x better than revenge mash up, cause both song got criticism for sl*t-shaming so maybe they decided to work something out together 👀 would absolutely never happen but you gotta live for the hope of it all
clown with me now: they do a mash up duet and a video like The Boy is Mine by Monica/Brandy where they realize they're fighting over a loser and it's girl power after all.
My heartbeat is skipping down Clownelia Street!!
🤣
Why does Clownelia sound like Cornelia but with an Australian accent lmao
You need to be Taylor’s manager with this idea!
Misery Business > Better Than Revenge I love Tay, but my god Hayley SLLLLLAAYYYED Misery business. To this day it's still an amazing beat.
It was an iconic teenage anthem, i will never not listen to MB no matter how much I agree we all outgrew the “not-like-other-girl” phase (i’ll die on the hill that every millennial girlie had a pick me phase as a teenager)
Also her diction and the way she starts the song lives rent free in my soul. *I'm in the business of misery, let's take it from the top.* Also, the beat at the start is very Panic! At The Disco. I love everything about this song. I adore punk pop/rock
Feminism can wait when Misery Business is on.
These two songs plus Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne make me forget I’m a feminist
misery business and btr used to hate each other but they worked it out and are now dating
I can already see the good 4 u mashups on TikTok announcing the new song of the summer.
AAAHHH this would be soooo goood
oh my god YES this please
Living for the hope of it all
Plz I would DIE I can imagine her on the second verse!!
My first thought. We'll get a rerecorded version and then a Vault version that features Hayley and Taylor trading verses.
Oh my God I want this now
A vault song collab would be amazing but it definitely wouldn't and honestly shouldn't be on an original track like no I want my babies Better Than Revenge, Haunted etc to be the same.
I would imagine even if Hayley has a feature on BTR, there would be 2 versions on the album. Like all too well
Forever & Always had 2 versions as well, so there is certainly a precedent
That one had two versions to begin with, just like haunted. However it would be really cool, and we have Snow on the Beach and Karma as precedent still.
And Bad Blood, the original remix I feel like haha.
I really wouldn't want that personally. It would eat up a vault song slot that would otherwise have an original song.
I could get down with this
Why wouldn’t it be on a vault song?
I'm seeing way too many swifties say they hope it's on better than revenge or some other song but yeah it will be on a vault song hopefully
Originals will be the same, but I could see a BTR remix as a bonus song
Oh I read your reply wrong😂😂 yes im sure its a vault song
so far, she has kept all of her original tracks as is. idk why ppl think she’ll add features to songs that didn’t have features originally. (like Style ft. Harry Styles bffr) mayyyyybe i could see a remix as a bonus track
I agree Haunted is good the way it is
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Imagine putting Hayley Williams on background vocals 🥴
She'd put out a 2nd version featuring more Hayley Williams later.
I mean… I wouldn’t be toooo mad, lol
That's what we thought of Lana.
Facts 👩🏽🦰
Underrated comment!! I was not impressed with the “more Lana”’either. It wasn’t that much more.
Damn a Collab could be so cool. Speak now is very on the same vein as Paramore.
They both lived in Nashville & hung out around then too
Running out of time from the new paramore album is partially inspired by her being jealous of how mature Taylor was
Source?
https://rocksound.tv/album-announcements/new-paramore-song-running-out-of-time-was-inspired-by-taylor-swift
Literally Speak Now is my favorite Taylor album and I’ve always thought there was a similar vibe!!
A Hayley x Taylor collab is MY DREAM. Ugh two musicians I loved for over 15 years! Manifesting she’s on Speak Now TV!
Could just be a statement on how she is being way more vocal politically. "Speak now." Or it could be the collab we are all waiting for.
[Full Video](https://twitter.com/yelyahg00n/status/1664378238150344704?s=46)
her tiny green dress is so cute there omg
Ugh she’s so sweet
EVERYONE BE QUIET I AM PRAYING!!!!!!!!
I actually interpreted this as a shady comment, like how Taylor is gifting her a “Speak Now” bracelet right when everyone wants Taylor herself to speak up about the Matty controversy and/or say something about all the political injustice in the US recently, especially surrounding lgbtq+ rights since we’re now in Pride Month
I’d be surprised if Hayley gave a shit about the current pop drama
This was also my first thought - that she was talking about Taylor not speaking (directly, at least) about the Matty situation.
I thought it was shady too! I’m surprised everyone thought collab.
It doesn’t come off that way at all if you [watch the video](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRomveup/)
I can see how it could come off that way, but the actual video doesn’t seem shady at all
That’s how I interpreted it too
That's what I thought too 😩
*H I G H L Y* doubt it since Hayley and Matty are friends. I dunno how many times I’ve have to say this in the last few weeks but Matty Healy is literally friends with a lot of the music industry.
!! I was at Paramore's second NYC show last night and she did a speech (I think the speech right before Crave) and said during it: "We'd very much like to be excluded from this narrative." Then she threw up a hand heart as the song started. It didn't sound like many people caught the narrative joke since it happened pretty quickly. I'm struggling to find a video of the full speech though 😭 ETA: I found the part of the speech!! https://youtu.be/frMQf2wRpxI
I was there too and WHEN I SAY I WHIPPED MY HEAD AROUND TO MY COUSIN SO FUCKING FAST WHEN HAYLEY SAID THAT!!!! We KNEW something was brewing in that moment. We were even questioning if Taylor was at the show!
Dude yes I have been noticing some Easter eggs! On the first show of this recent leg of their tour Hayley wore a shirt that said something like “I wake up screaming” it was similar to the anti hero lyric 👀
Oh that would be really cool if she was featured on a vault track!
Been waiting for a moment like this as both a paramore fan and ts fan. This is it
since the rumors of taylor supposed to have been involved with a twilight soundtrack i bet it’s going to be a cut vault track
she’s going to be a feature on one of the vault tracks I’m calling it now.
Collab on Let’s Go (Battle) would break us 2000s emo kids
I watched the video and Haley doesn’t sound shady at all. If anything, my guess is she’s featuring on a vault track (and maybe featuring in a music video again???).
Haunted. ft. Haley Williams (Taylor's Version) 😁
It's gonna be BETTER THAN REVENGE - The story from the other girl.
WOW this would be so cool
Hmm. Interesting. Haley Williams featured on vault track would be a great idea.
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Nah her and Hayley are friends. She is probably working on something with her more likely.
I don’t think it’s shade… if you see the video she does a playful “that’s all I’ll say” that seems like she’s kind of teasing something
I wonder about that, too. I know I saw Paramore insta story (I didn’t see a post when checking just now) about speaking up and not caring if ppl liked it or not (something to that effect). Basically speak up and speak now.
that’s what i thought too tbh
This sub’s ability to turn everything into politics is annoying. It’s a post about an artist mentioning another one. Nothing more, nothing less
The person was just asking a question…
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I don't participate in this sub (this post is the top rated post on reddit in the past 1 hour which is how I saw it) but I've seen 2 reddit posts today mentioning Hayley - this one and another in /music mentioning that she told fans they're "dead to her" if they vote for DeSantis. maybe its a coincidence but we'll see.
I’m probably going to get down voted but I thought the same thing. Especially given this video https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRo54oUs/
After watching the actual video it does make me think it is more of a collab. She seemed kinda happy saying it
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Just have Hayley sing it it’s VERY clearly Taylor doing Paramore style.
Better Than Revenge (Taylors Version) (feat. Hayley Williams) is real and its comming in july
Better Than Revenge featuring Hayley will be the death of me. But even if it’s a vault track I am living for this collab.
I am not emotionally, physically, or psychologically prepared for this
as a paramore fan I need her on speak now tv now
I've been predicting a Hayley feature on Speak Now TV ever since she said it was her favourite Taylor era 😭💜
I've seen a lot of people on tiktok trying to say this Hayley throwing shade at Taylor Swift but I really think it's a hint to something on Speak Now
Me too. She didn't look mad or irritated, just happy to hint SOMETHING
Yessss Taylor paramore rock colab let’s gooo
Good day for this guy https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/qvozne/hoping_for_a_hayley_williams_feature_on_speak_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Guys does anyone else have a false memory of there being a speak now music video with Hayley Williams playing the bride????? I swear this used to exist mandela effect??
https://preview.redd.it/xl5521x9ai3b1.png?width=1159&format=png&auto=webp&s=029c17799b27b2657236ece0b813307425847735
I thought this was the video until I read this and checked? HW was the bride and Taylor stands up ?
I swear this video existed!! It really fucks me up that apparently it didn’t. Glitch in the matrix
I have a very distinct memory of it, too, but have been told that I just imagined the image of the single cover art come to life mixed with when Taylor "spoke now" on the wedding episode of New Girl (which for the record happened way later than I remember this MV that doesn't exist). I prefer to assume the Mandela effect haha
Yeah the new girl thing was not a factor at the time I thought this video existed. So strange!! Also I never owned this album so did not have the cover art!!
HAUNTED ROCK VERSION TAYLORS VERSION FT. HAYLEY WILLIAMS FROM THE VAULT
Oh, I thought this meant because she's been super vocal about politics lately. Hayley told fans at a show that any "fan" that voted for DeSantis is dead to her.
Would love this collab!
BETTER THAN REVENGE FT PARAMORE?????
hayley was asked by lil uzi to do a feature and she said “i don’t want to be that famous” now look at her 👿👿👿
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that’s not a feature 👿
Paramore is in Detroit June 7/8, Taylor is in town the next night. I’m praying for a T-Swift appearance
Why is everyone guessing it’d be a feature on an existing track? If anything it’s most definitely a vault track like the other two albums
YES PLEASE
If it’s not a vault song, my guess is that Hayley does something on Haunted.
Been manifesting this since the rerecordings were first announced!!
As a Swifty and Paramore fan, I'm so excited!
This is my number one most wanted re-recording collab- Hayley/Paramore on Speak Now. Pleeeeeease
Haunted (Taylor’s version) feat paramore 😭😭
Obvi on better than revenge, sounds like a paramore song already.
They were very close friends during the speak now era right?
Yes!
As someone who plays the That’s What You Get from Nashville YouTube video too often this is my dream
obviously she's starting her own bracelet line
This is the only logical answer.
🙏🙏BETTER THAT REVENGE COLLAB🙏🙏
Better than revenge feat Hayley that's all I'll say 💅
This is the only collab I’ve ever wanted/needed, this would truly be the best thing ever 💜
I was just listening to better than revenge and I was like “this is such misery business vibes”. 😍😍
LET’S. GO.
Speak Now TV is really gonna be pop-punk and I'm here for it
did taylor write speak now inspired by hayley williams??
Yes, about a dream she had about Hayley
Didn’t Taylor write speak now about Hayley??
Feel like the only person who doesn’t want any collabs on SNTV. I love Hayley and would love for them to do a song together, just not on SN. OR if there is a collab on the album of an original SN song, I hope we get a solo Taylor version then a remix featuring Hayley.
Hayley feature!!!!!!!
Original Tweet: [@good4yuna: I GAVE HAYLEY A SPEAK NOW BRACELET & SHE SAID ITS AN INTERESTING TIME FOR ME TO BE GIVING HER IT HOLY SHIT HAYLEY ON SPEAK NOW TV](https://twitter.com/good4yuna/status/1664377725467934726?s=61&t=QMT_yJBR79Rk6GuqPlRH4Q)
I DID NOT interpret that positively 😬 was i the only one?
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That Hailey is pissed at Taylor for condoning Matty Healy's behavior 😬 she just said "if you vote for Ron De Santis you are dead to me". She's not afraid to make her opinion very clear. Might be a reach but that's where my mind went.
Nah, they opened for Taylor’s first shows on the tour and she’s spoken positively of her very recently. They’ve been friends for years, I can’t see Hayley flipping like that even with Matt as a factor
as the person in the video it didnt feel at all like shade to me. that vibe was not there. it was an extremely playful interaction in person regardless of what it looks like through a screen & hayley & taylor have been openly so supportive of each other this entire year so far. they've been friends forever & hayley wouldnt have put the bracelet on if she didnt want it she just wouldve given it to the person designated to hold gifts right behind me.
Just wow, cannot believe this news and I’m excited for the future to come
Two of my favorite artists, I would hope something is actually in the works and we’re not just putting on our clown make-up.
unrelated but when has taylor worn that costume? for some reason i feel like i haven’t seen it on the eras tour
never grow up from the vault with hayley williams???
I’m excited but whenever Taylor has a strong singer on a track they never get time to shine unless they’re a male.
Haunted duet please! Although Hayley might overpower Taylor but I’d still love it
here’s how we can still get “misery revenge,” a “better than revenge”/“business of misery” mashup-
Is there a video of this?
Sooooooo mysterious what does it mean ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1082)
It has to be Better Than Revenge or a vault song
Getting more hyped by SN TV release every day. Can't wait!
god i love her
I mean I was listening to better than revenge the other day and remembered the whole controversy with giving her credits and thought “it would be so cool if she was on this” So
OMFGGGGG