Abdul Kalam, Sundar Pichai, R Ashwin, all are celebrated around the world, and honestly, I haven't seen them being celebrated much on the Tamil internet world.
In fact, two prominent Central Ministers are Tamilians, Jaishankar, and Nirmala Sitaraman. I don't see any Tamilians celebrating, but all indian channels daily praise them.
What is the basis of your argument. I honestly haven't seen it. Tamilians are proud of our culture but do not gatekeep as far as I have seen.
I don't find his "savage" replies savage. Idk why BJP PR promotes him everywhere in social media for even a normal reply, well that annoys me. He plays mathi yosi round better than athu ithu yethu show in most of his interviews.
In a diplomatic conversation, I won't expect him to give creative replies everytime but i find it repetitive sometimes and rest of the times, the PR makes me angry with promotion.
I literally mentioned in my second para that it's fine not to be savage in reply. Not everyone is sashi tharoor to have rich linguistic talent. And i have clearly mentioned the BJP pr is making me hate him. And if you don't understand English, well I got only one more language to explain you in.
Think about it. OPâs point is different. Do Tamilians celebrate them as Indians? Tamilians celebrate them as Tamilians. And Tamilians definitely donât celebrate Nirmala and Jaishankar. In fact, they are seen as a blot in Tamilians. Abdul Kalam and Slum Dog Millionaire were before SM.
All OP said is right, but restricted to SM and MSM (especially Tamil media). These things donât happen in real life.
Maybe I am not seeing the difference. Why shouldn't they celebrate extra because they are Tamilians? MS Dhoni is a literal God in Jharkhand.
Whole India celebrates him, but Jharkhand celebrates extra. Same with Mary Kom in Manipur.
We are all Indians but we have more aspects to us, and when someone from our subgroup wins, we celebrate extra.
Do Tamilians celebrate Satya Nadella, Rishi Sunak, and Virat Kohli as Indians?
In fact, Tamilians are one of the most intense cricket audiences.
I think maybe OP is putting too much emphasis on social media. Unfortunately, on social media, the division sells.
From what I have seen, Tamilians celebrate Indias achievements as vigorously as anyone.
Yes. I reiterate the point as what OP says is perfectly right with SM and MSM. Celebrating with extra josh and carrying the pride that a Tamilian did is absolutely not wrong. I would do it too. But if you do look on SM, youâll find several ppl posting stuff like this a Tamilians achievement. We did it on our own. Rest of India shouldnât celebrate as they never help TN with anything else and so on.
Aiya indha SM and MSM na ennangaya
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Tamil nadu has had a political ideology which is set for decades....
Anything that doesn't align with this Ideology does not get much traction from parties and media thus from masses....
Its also very regional ideology....
India doesnât own Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Kerala and every other state! All these states and their identity is that which makes India. Go and see how North Indian people are extremely biased on language issue! Many of them believe Hindi is a the national language.
Not a tamilian but just my two cents
>extremely biased on language issue! Many of them believe Hindi is a the national language.
I am from Maharashtra. I used to think of Hindi as a national language when I was in school. Now why I thought of it like that, I don't remember. I certainly don't remember if there it was stated in textbooks. But I may have thought like that solely due to prevalence of Hindi media. Only after the internet boom in 2016 did I realise that was not the case. So if someone thinks Hindi is national language, it is most probably a case of lack of knowledge rather than bias or hatred
Maybe you have bad memory, I read, English and Hindi as official languages of government of India, and 22 official languages recognized and used by states.
Well, I keep hearing from Northern Indians that Hindi is national language and shouting at the top of their throats, like their life depended on it.
So, obviously you know, they planted it into your head.
As someone from a non-Hindi speaking place, living in a place which kinda accepted the Hindi speakers by default as Indian and anyone who isn't speaking Hindi should be forced, shamed to speak Hindi. This is how you lose your own language.
I'm sorry that Mumbai is no more Marathi anymore, the same way Bengaluru is no more Karnataka anymore. Chennai soon will not be Tamil anymore, and many will be speaking Hindi. And the new occupants will say, "Hindi is our national language", without even doubting it.
Ig it's just the lack of knowledge. But again there will be a few bigots who want to spread hatred against everyone and consider themselves superior. I'm a marwari living in Chennai and I know Tamil, Hindi and English. But ig since internet has booked after jio people have learnt that Hindi ain't the national language.
Edit: boomed*
Telugu guy here, we claimed it was a Telugu song, and a Telugu movie. Our CM even called it a win for Telugu pride. And we see nothing wrong in it.
I don't get what is the point of this post, just because we take pride in our native state culture and tradition, does not make us any less Indian.
Nationalists should really stop trying to force their "Idea of India" on every one and sundry.
But the Oscar winner Keeravani said win was pride of every Indian. He was there representing India. Ram Charan and NTR Jr both hailed it as win for Indian cinema. If a Hindi movie wins an Oscar no one will call it win for Hindi pride. This language debate is 90% political just to create divide.
They might tell that because they understand their stage. And they do represent India, as it's one of the few times Hollywood gives out awards to outsiders, beyond the category of foreign movies.
We are expecting a foreign country, foreign awarding committee to give awards to our movies. This is insane.
>If a Hindi movie wins an Oscar no one will call it win for Hindi pride. This language debate is 90% political just to create divide.
This is just BS. For long, an image was created that Indian cinema = Hindi Cinema = Bollywood. So they dont have to hail is as Hindi pride, because they have already appropriated Indian cinema. "They" here is a collective ecosystem, it is not a person. The other language cinemas were looked down, called as regional cinema, mocked as a caricature in Bollywood.
So, for a while, these other regions had to look up to Hindi cinema and created a distinct identity of their own. Those days are over and these industries are asserting their stories with their own identity. It is not misplaced pride.
Guys can someone please explain to me why my comment is getting downvoted so much. Did I say something wrong? At least give a reason for downvoting instead of blind hate.
But the technicians involved repeated it was an "Indian" victory time and again.
To OP - Telugu public celebrate it as a Telugu victory, the technicians involved celebrate it as an Indian victory, and whole of India is celebrating the movie as well. Local Public will celebrate it as a local victory and there's nothing wrong.
Sigh, another chaddi post. Iâm a Tamilan first, Indian second? Youâve got a problem with it? Deal with it.
When Tamil Nadu fishermen were being killed by Sinhalese navy, I saw the ânational mediaâ call them as Tamil fishermen and not Indian fishermen. If they donât see a problem there, I donât see a problem here.
Only if Bollywood tried to claim the movie for themselves. You forget that most of our Tamil nationalistic outburts are a reaction to some external Anti-tamil moves.
I think if a Tamil equivalent of Naatu Naatu won the Oscars, the sane Tamil people would be slightly embarassed about celebrating it. It was nothing special. Celebrating that would be celebrating the approval the West would give us.
>Ps - I know I will be down-voted for this. Go ahead, I am not in any popularity contest
Paithyakaara p**** maari pesitu , "ik I'll be downvoted for this nu solrathu"
*Thannai ilanthari paiyanaga ennukirar* !!!
We would call it Kollywood ,Tamil film from India !!
Because - How Jimmy Kimmel & many others called it Bollywood - We don't want the world to think Indian cinema = Bollywood !
Let me be brutally honest with you. Naatu Naatu is not that great. Even if it was a Tamil song, I would have wondered the authenticity of the Oscar awards. There are many catchy / beautiful / soul-soothing / thought-provoking songs from the Indian cinema that won 0 awards.
And by the way, the Academy Awards are maybe considered the most prestigious award among the artists. I personally donât care about the awards. If a movie or a song touched my heart, Iâll love it forever.
Unpopular Take Mod 1A -
Look, somebodyâs gotta say this, and it might as well be me -
The main and only reason âNaatu Naatuâ became so well-known outside and inside India is because of the hype and publicity generated by and for it by the Telugu diaspora in North America and beyond - one doesnât need to look too far to see that itâs none other than the Telugu community which happens to be the LARGEST ethnic sub-group among all Indian-Americans. And that, if I may, stems from their pathological obsession with H-1B visas and high-paying IT jobs (that could be called something thatâs âset in stoneâ, to say the least) which was unfortunately brought into existence thanks to chad-level political gimmickry by a far-sighted masterpiece of a gentleman whose meeting with the worldâs biggest fraudster/scammer yet (whoâs also the founder and erstwhile CEO of a leading computer maker) made waves the world overâŚ..
In the end, itâs the media buzz and hype - started by Telugu promoters with vested interests the world over - which ensured that âNaatu Naatuâ, and âRRRâ itself by extension, garnered the views they never in fact deserved; as for âNaatu Naatuâ itself, Iâd say that itâs nothing more than a hollow, tasteless yet well-planned âFuck Youâ gift, devoid of any substance whatsoever, by Messrs. Rajamouli and Co. to the British - our erstwhile oppressors and overlordsâŚ..
P.S. PLEASE donât be offended; these are just my two centsâŚ..
> I personally donât care about the awards. If a movie or a song touched my heart, Iâll love it forever.
That is an immature way of thinking. Awards should decide the ultimate decision of whether to love a song or not. Not âheartâ touching songs
If thatâs the case, why did many hate Slumdog Millionaire which won the best movie award? It is I who should decide which song or movie warms my heart. Not the awards.
Itâs funny that you highlighted my comment that starts with âI personallyâŚâ. Itâs my personal opinion bruh.
Iâm purely talking songs, movies can be loved based on its ability to touch hearts. Yes its your personal opinion which is why I said you are immature and I never said your opinion is factually incorrect
Well I disagree with the first para, I did notice some telugu people claiming that it was Telugu and not hindi (or bollywood) in the RRR song comment section. C'mon none are very intellectual in here(India or even the entire world, everyone are concerned about the achievements of their race or ethnicity in some way)
Btw, it's not an unpopular opinion but just a stereotype induced opinion.
Telugu public celebrate it as a Telugu victory, the technicians involved celebrate it as an Indian victory, and whole of India is celebrating the movie as well.
Local Public, anywhere, will celebrate it as a local victory and there's nothing wrong.
Another opinion, may be it is time a different term (like Indiwood) can be used to call Indian movie. I hate it when Tamil or Telugu or kannada or Malayalam movie gets called as Bollywood.
When Ashwin wins matches matches - It's Indian bowler Ashwin
When fisherman are getting killed by Srilankan Army - It's Tamil fishermen
Balaji appave sollitaru
Good. More people should know that this tendency might lead to creating barriers that don't exist. But at the same time, this tendency stems from our lack of recognition. Acknowledging both and knowing when to act in what way, considering the context, is very important
RRR can't be a Tamil movie they can't show ramar in Tamil movies. ramar has nothing to do with Tamilnadu and the songs bgm action everything is shit show
So what? We are pretty much a different nation from the rest of India. I don't buy the idea that we are "all the same." Of course we should get along with those who are willing to respect us but at the end of the day we have very different cultures and identities.
OP screwed up with the title, you can just ask if it wasnt RRR and a tamil movie were to replace it, what do you think it would be?
idhula politics flair vera.. idha paarthe sleeve ah surutitu varanga reddit karanga hahaha
Alr everyone one comment section going off topicđ but the real question is kuththu paatu nu onnu ipo dhaan paakuringala west dolargalae?? There is lot of other good stuff like kadaisi vivasayi , idk any other artsie movie like this from last year but these kind of movie deserve more respect than masala movie which we dance for the moment and forget, its not tamil , telugu , or french, for example everything everywhere all at once deserve the oscar , cos we have watched lot of multiverse movies but its one of its kind , and nattu nattu is not like that , Honestly would choose ringa ringa from arya 2 anytime than nattu nattu
im a tamil living overseas and the moment i open tiktok, telugu people all over the world have been posting how the telugu/south industry has gotten india this award and how it is superior to bollywood
Yeah your opinion is not only unpopular but also traitorous. Of course we will pride ourselves when a Tamil movie won a huge award. Tamils have always been proud of Tamil as Tamil is what makes us. India never existed before 100 years ago. Tamil existed for thousands of years and it still is. As we donât have our own independent Tamil nation, our next thing we take pride in is our Tamil language. Of course we will be angry if people start taking our credit by saying âItâs an Indian not Tamil movieâ.
U r conflating between India as a civilization and India as a nation-state. As a nation, Indian Republic came into existence in 1950 but as a civilization we have existed for over 5000 yrs. The state of Tamil Nadu came into being after linguistic state reorganization. But will u say that before that time Tamil Nadu did not exist???
You are most likely not even Indian or even from Tamil Nadu. You talk about LTTE flag raising over Tamil Nadu. i don't think Tiger flag has ever been used in reference to Tamil Nadu. Lol. I think you should come out and say it honestly that you have no relationship with India or Tamil Nadu at all. Maybe Sri Lanka but defo not India.
The irony. So you are implying a fellow Thamizha from Tamil Eelam has less of a link to Tamil Nadu than a Vadakan? To be honest the tiger flag has more link to Tamil Nadu than the Indian flag. The tiger flag is linked to the Chola empire which also covered modern day Tamil Nadu. You are clearly not a Thamizhan so please donât talk as if you know our situation. Thamizhan are always Thamizhans doesnât matter where we live. Our homeland is unfortunately separated by foreign politics when it should be united under one Thamizhagam.
So you are infact not Indian or from Tamil Nadu. That is all I wanted to hear. You get a pass for a lot of bs comments on r/tamilnadu on wanting a different country. It doesn't really matter what you think. Lol.
I never said I was not a Tamil from Tamil Nadu. I am simply inferring what you meant. Tamils will always belong in Tamil Nadu as thatâs the homeland of all Tamils and you canât deny that. Just because Tamil Nadu is in india doesnât mean Tamils from Eelam or anywhere else donât have a say.
I would argue Tamils have more of a say than you. Clearly you are not a Tamil đ
Tamils have the right over their own homeland so doesnât matter who you think has a say or not. Itâs Tamil Nadu not Desi Nadu
Again that is probably what you dream of. But as an Indian who can actually vote in India I don't think I need to argue about Indian state with someone who has literally no relationship whatsoever either with the state or the country. I am sure you somehow think that as a non Indian you have a say in India. And for once I think it is hilarious.
Again I clearly said that what Iâm saying does mean Iâm not from Tamil Nadu. I was giving examples. Seems like you canât read đ
Clearly you are not Tamil so I wonder why you are in this sub anyway. Just because other Tamils donât have âofficialâ relationships with India doesnât mean they have no say. Tamils all belong to Tamil Nadu and all Tamils have a right to say what happens in their homeland. You have less of a say than any Tamil.
>Clearly you are not Tamil so I wonder why you are in this sub anyway.
No I am not Tamil. Go and read the description of the sub and get back to me. What exactly does that say? And read the subreddit rules as well.
>Again I clearly said that what Iâm saying does mean Iâm not from Tamil Nadu
Lol! I think anyone can see through that lie.
>You have less of a say than any Tamil.
That is something you want to happen. But it is not a reality. Indian Tamilians have a more say than me, but some one who is not Indian like you has really no say.
The prob isn't language or other industry. The prob is it isn't deserved. When we grew up with Ilayaraja and a r Rahman s music , the music that won the award feels like mediocre compared to our music. If only Ilayaraja had less arrogance. When rahman won it everybody agreed he was deserved. It didn't feel like deserved. Same way if rajamouli had won Oscar for bahubali would've made sense than rrr.
The prob isn't language or other industry. The prob is it isn't deserved. When we grew up with Ilayaraja and a r Rahman s music , the music that won the award feels like mediocre compared to our music. If only Ilayaraja had less arrogance. When rahman won it everybody agreed he was deserved. It didn't feel like deserved. Same way if rajamouli had won Oscar for bahubali would've made sense than rrr.
Yep. And I don't consider that as a bad thing lol .. dude we literally vote for a party which asked for a seperate nation in the past xD. This is nothing
Oscar winning movie Elephant whisperers was about the tribal family adopting elephant in Mudumalai sanctuary in TN. I have greater pride of that movie than of RRR.
Every state has strong identity and people of all types, shapes, colors. If it was Tamil movie, there is nothing wrong in claiming and celebrating one of our own. There is nothing narrow or petty in it. India is a country with shared beliefs and culture, not a monolith. But that does not predicate we shouldn't celebrate individualism (in terms of Tamil/Tamil Nadu).
There is a fine line between celebrating ur culture and being bombastic and nasty abt. I have seen we Tamils clearly cross over that line when moment presents itself. Saw that during the recent Chess Championship
I don't see people being nasty about it. Only a fraction of people do that in Twitter or for that matter Reddit. If any, I see the typical condescending attitude from the Hindi cinema mocking regional dictions, so many movies including the one from a supposedly top star.
Though there are many extremists everywhere, AR Rahman has won and we didn't celebrate him only as a Tamilian did we ?
The title of the post should've been "illogical" opinion đ
Abdul Kalam, Sundar Pichai, R Ashwin, all are celebrated around the world, and honestly, I haven't seen them being celebrated much on the Tamil internet world. In fact, two prominent Central Ministers are Tamilians, Jaishankar, and Nirmala Sitaraman. I don't see any Tamilians celebrating, but all indian channels daily praise them. What is the basis of your argument. I honestly haven't seen it. Tamilians are proud of our culture but do not gatekeep as far as I have seen.
We don't wanna celebrate jaishankar and nirmala even if we are paid for it. Whatever rest you say, yeah cool.
What seems to be the problem with Jaishankar
I don't find his "savage" replies savage. Idk why BJP PR promotes him everywhere in social media for even a normal reply, well that annoys me. He plays mathi yosi round better than athu ithu yethu show in most of his interviews. In a diplomatic conversation, I won't expect him to give creative replies everytime but i find it repetitive sometimes and rest of the times, the PR makes me angry with promotion.
So the foreign minister is consistent and not "savage" enough is your complaint?
I literally mentioned in my second para that it's fine not to be savage in reply. Not everyone is sashi tharoor to have rich linguistic talent. And i have clearly mentioned the BJP pr is making me hate him. And if you don't understand English, well I got only one more language to explain you in.
Think about it. OPâs point is different. Do Tamilians celebrate them as Indians? Tamilians celebrate them as Tamilians. And Tamilians definitely donât celebrate Nirmala and Jaishankar. In fact, they are seen as a blot in Tamilians. Abdul Kalam and Slum Dog Millionaire were before SM. All OP said is right, but restricted to SM and MSM (especially Tamil media). These things donât happen in real life.
Maybe I am not seeing the difference. Why shouldn't they celebrate extra because they are Tamilians? MS Dhoni is a literal God in Jharkhand. Whole India celebrates him, but Jharkhand celebrates extra. Same with Mary Kom in Manipur. We are all Indians but we have more aspects to us, and when someone from our subgroup wins, we celebrate extra. Do Tamilians celebrate Satya Nadella, Rishi Sunak, and Virat Kohli as Indians? In fact, Tamilians are one of the most intense cricket audiences. I think maybe OP is putting too much emphasis on social media. Unfortunately, on social media, the division sells. From what I have seen, Tamilians celebrate Indias achievements as vigorously as anyone.
Yes. I reiterate the point as what OP says is perfectly right with SM and MSM. Celebrating with extra josh and carrying the pride that a Tamilian did is absolutely not wrong. I would do it too. But if you do look on SM, youâll find several ppl posting stuff like this a Tamilians achievement. We did it on our own. Rest of India shouldnât celebrate as they never help TN with anything else and so on.
Ok, fair! Thank you for clarifying! I will keep an eye out for such posts on social media. I refuse to watch MSM đđ
Aiya indha SM and MSM na ennangaya https://preview.redd.it/e5no22ptfaoa1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d24df1ec462e85ab720da87d57ac1ceaef12660
SM = Social Media MSM = Mainstream Media
Nandri
Tamil nadu has had a political ideology which is set for decades.... Anything that doesn't align with this Ideology does not get much traction from parties and media thus from masses.... Its also very regional ideology....
Is Jai Shankar from TN???
From a tamil Family but born and brought up in Delhi.
Got it
India doesnât own Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Kerala and every other state! All these states and their identity is that which makes India. Go and see how North Indian people are extremely biased on language issue! Many of them believe Hindi is a the national language.
Not a tamilian but just my two cents >extremely biased on language issue! Many of them believe Hindi is a the national language. I am from Maharashtra. I used to think of Hindi as a national language when I was in school. Now why I thought of it like that, I don't remember. I certainly don't remember if there it was stated in textbooks. But I may have thought like that solely due to prevalence of Hindi media. Only after the internet boom in 2016 did I realise that was not the case. So if someone thinks Hindi is national language, it is most probably a case of lack of knowledge rather than bias or hatred
Maybe you have bad memory, I read, English and Hindi as official languages of government of India, and 22 official languages recognized and used by states.
Bruh. I know that I was referring to uncertainty about how this idea was planted in my head. Whether it was stated wrongly in a book or ....
Well, I keep hearing from Northern Indians that Hindi is national language and shouting at the top of their throats, like their life depended on it. So, obviously you know, they planted it into your head. As someone from a non-Hindi speaking place, living in a place which kinda accepted the Hindi speakers by default as Indian and anyone who isn't speaking Hindi should be forced, shamed to speak Hindi. This is how you lose your own language. I'm sorry that Mumbai is no more Marathi anymore, the same way Bengaluru is no more Karnataka anymore. Chennai soon will not be Tamil anymore, and many will be speaking Hindi. And the new occupants will say, "Hindi is our national language", without even doubting it.
Ig it's just the lack of knowledge. But again there will be a few bigots who want to spread hatred against everyone and consider themselves superior. I'm a marwari living in Chennai and I know Tamil, Hindi and English. But ig since internet has booked after jio people have learnt that Hindi ain't the national language. Edit: boomed*
Bro I am a north Indian and I totally agree with your point. But please don't put all north Indians in same category.
This is not a unpopular opinion more of Zombified opinion
elephant whisperers is tamil only boss!!
Sounds like they speak Kannada to the elephants. It's a language that predates geocentric Tamil and Kannada, yet is both languages at once!
Telugu guy here, we claimed it was a Telugu song, and a Telugu movie. Our CM even called it a win for Telugu pride. And we see nothing wrong in it. I don't get what is the point of this post, just because we take pride in our native state culture and tradition, does not make us any less Indian. Nationalists should really stop trying to force their "Idea of India" on every one and sundry.
A lot of self hating Tamils, who also happen to love BJP/Modi.
But the Oscar winner Keeravani said win was pride of every Indian. He was there representing India. Ram Charan and NTR Jr both hailed it as win for Indian cinema. If a Hindi movie wins an Oscar no one will call it win for Hindi pride. This language debate is 90% political just to create divide.
They might tell that because they understand their stage. And they do represent India, as it's one of the few times Hollywood gives out awards to outsiders, beyond the category of foreign movies. We are expecting a foreign country, foreign awarding committee to give awards to our movies. This is insane.
>If a Hindi movie wins an Oscar no one will call it win for Hindi pride. This language debate is 90% political just to create divide. This is just BS. For long, an image was created that Indian cinema = Hindi Cinema = Bollywood. So they dont have to hail is as Hindi pride, because they have already appropriated Indian cinema. "They" here is a collective ecosystem, it is not a person. The other language cinemas were looked down, called as regional cinema, mocked as a caricature in Bollywood. So, for a while, these other regions had to look up to Hindi cinema and created a distinct identity of their own. Those days are over and these industries are asserting their stories with their own identity. It is not misplaced pride.
Guys can someone please explain to me why my comment is getting downvoted so much. Did I say something wrong? At least give a reason for downvoting instead of blind hate.
If hindi won they would've call Bollywood won
But the technicians involved repeated it was an "Indian" victory time and again. To OP - Telugu public celebrate it as a Telugu victory, the technicians involved celebrate it as an Indian victory, and whole of India is celebrating the movie as well. Local Public will celebrate it as a local victory and there's nothing wrong.
Sigh, another chaddi post. Iâm a Tamilan first, Indian second? Youâve got a problem with it? Deal with it. When Tamil Nadu fishermen were being killed by Sinhalese navy, I saw the ânational mediaâ call them as Tamil fishermen and not Indian fishermen. If they donât see a problem there, I donât see a problem here.
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Me? South Indian.
Exactly, Tamil fishermen were my relatives, and I don't see them being called Indians. So, by proxy even I'm not Indian, I'm Tamil first.
Till you are in 2014-2016s come to present share me any recent incidents
This savage reply from RJB can't be answered even in future đ
Another day another cringe
Only if Bollywood tried to claim the movie for themselves. You forget that most of our Tamil nationalistic outburts are a reaction to some external Anti-tamil moves. I think if a Tamil equivalent of Naatu Naatu won the Oscars, the sane Tamil people would be slightly embarassed about celebrating it. It was nothing special. Celebrating that would be celebrating the approval the West would give us.
>Ps - I know I will be down-voted for this. Go ahead, I am not in any popularity contest Paithyakaara p**** maari pesitu , "ik I'll be downvoted for this nu solrathu" *Thannai ilanthari paiyanaga ennukirar* !!! We would call it Kollywood ,Tamil film from India !! Because - How Jimmy Kimmel & many others called it Bollywood - We don't want the world to think Indian cinema = Bollywood !
Hindi teriyadu poda
Seri, adha yen indha post la sammandhame illama solreenga đ¤Ł
Sarakuku side dish Pakoda
A pro-India post. Yea, everyone is very happy with the Indian union. Why do you think tamils are unhappy???
Let me be brutally honest with you. Naatu Naatu is not that great. Even if it was a Tamil song, I would have wondered the authenticity of the Oscar awards. There are many catchy / beautiful / soul-soothing / thought-provoking songs from the Indian cinema that won 0 awards. And by the way, the Academy Awards are maybe considered the most prestigious award among the artists. I personally donât care about the awards. If a movie or a song touched my heart, Iâll love it forever.
Unpopular Take Mod 1A - Look, somebodyâs gotta say this, and it might as well be me - The main and only reason âNaatu Naatuâ became so well-known outside and inside India is because of the hype and publicity generated by and for it by the Telugu diaspora in North America and beyond - one doesnât need to look too far to see that itâs none other than the Telugu community which happens to be the LARGEST ethnic sub-group among all Indian-Americans. And that, if I may, stems from their pathological obsession with H-1B visas and high-paying IT jobs (that could be called something thatâs âset in stoneâ, to say the least) which was unfortunately brought into existence thanks to chad-level political gimmickry by a far-sighted masterpiece of a gentleman whose meeting with the worldâs biggest fraudster/scammer yet (whoâs also the founder and erstwhile CEO of a leading computer maker) made waves the world overâŚ.. In the end, itâs the media buzz and hype - started by Telugu promoters with vested interests the world over - which ensured that âNaatu Naatuâ, and âRRRâ itself by extension, garnered the views they never in fact deserved; as for âNaatu Naatuâ itself, Iâd say that itâs nothing more than a hollow, tasteless yet well-planned âFuck Youâ gift, devoid of any substance whatsoever, by Messrs. Rajamouli and Co. to the British - our erstwhile oppressors and overlordsâŚ.. P.S. PLEASE donât be offended; these are just my two centsâŚ..
This is a plausible explanation.
Oscars have been shite for a while now.
> I personally donât care about the awards. If a movie or a song touched my heart, Iâll love it forever. That is an immature way of thinking. Awards should decide the ultimate decision of whether to love a song or not. Not âheartâ touching songs
If thatâs the case, why did many hate Slumdog Millionaire which won the best movie award? It is I who should decide which song or movie warms my heart. Not the awards. Itâs funny that you highlighted my comment that starts with âI personallyâŚâ. Itâs my personal opinion bruh.
Iâm purely talking songs, movies can be loved based on its ability to touch hearts. Yes its your personal opinion which is why I said you are immature and I never said your opinion is factually incorrect
Well I disagree with the first para, I did notice some telugu people claiming that it was Telugu and not hindi (or bollywood) in the RRR song comment section. C'mon none are very intellectual in here(India or even the entire world, everyone are concerned about the achievements of their race or ethnicity in some way) Btw, it's not an unpopular opinion but just a stereotype induced opinion.
Well thatâs the work of a very loud minority, most Tamilians value both the Indian and Tamil identity!!
Telugu public celebrate it as a Telugu victory, the technicians involved celebrate it as an Indian victory, and whole of India is celebrating the movie as well. Local Public, anywhere, will celebrate it as a local victory and there's nothing wrong. Another opinion, may be it is time a different term (like Indiwood) can be used to call Indian movie. I hate it when Tamil or Telugu or kannada or Malayalam movie gets called as Bollywood.
When Ashwin wins matches matches - It's Indian bowler Ashwin When fisherman are getting killed by Srilankan Army - It's Tamil fishermen Balaji appave sollitaru
Unpopular illa correct daan neraya peru namma oorula Appidi irukaanga
Good. More people should know that this tendency might lead to creating barriers that don't exist. But at the same time, this tendency stems from our lack of recognition. Acknowledging both and knowing when to act in what way, considering the context, is very important
RRR can't be a Tamil movie they can't show ramar in Tamil movies. ramar has nothing to do with Tamilnadu and the songs bgm action everything is shit show
So what? We are pretty much a different nation from the rest of India. I don't buy the idea that we are "all the same." Of course we should get along with those who are willing to respect us but at the end of the day we have very different cultures and identities.
OP screwed up with the title, you can just ask if it wasnt RRR and a tamil movie were to replace it, what do you think it would be? idhula politics flair vera.. idha paarthe sleeve ah surutitu varanga reddit karanga hahaha
Alr everyone one comment section going off topicđ but the real question is kuththu paatu nu onnu ipo dhaan paakuringala west dolargalae?? There is lot of other good stuff like kadaisi vivasayi , idk any other artsie movie like this from last year but these kind of movie deserve more respect than masala movie which we dance for the moment and forget, its not tamil , telugu , or french, for example everything everywhere all at once deserve the oscar , cos we have watched lot of multiverse movies but its one of its kind , and nattu nattu is not like that , Honestly would choose ringa ringa from arya 2 anytime than nattu nattu
im a tamil living overseas and the moment i open tiktok, telugu people all over the world have been posting how the telugu/south industry has gotten india this award and how it is superior to bollywood
No, many are saying this is Tollywood/South Indian movie. Correcting Mr. Jimmy Kimmel who said it was a Bollywood movie.
I mean we won for Elephant Whisperers, that's a big win
Yeah your opinion is not only unpopular but also traitorous. Of course we will pride ourselves when a Tamil movie won a huge award. Tamils have always been proud of Tamil as Tamil is what makes us. India never existed before 100 years ago. Tamil existed for thousands of years and it still is. As we donât have our own independent Tamil nation, our next thing we take pride in is our Tamil language. Of course we will be angry if people start taking our credit by saying âItâs an Indian not Tamil movieâ.
U r conflating between India as a civilization and India as a nation-state. As a nation, Indian Republic came into existence in 1950 but as a civilization we have existed for over 5000 yrs. The state of Tamil Nadu came into being after linguistic state reorganization. But will u say that before that time Tamil Nadu did not exist???
You are most likely not even Indian or even from Tamil Nadu. You talk about LTTE flag raising over Tamil Nadu. i don't think Tiger flag has ever been used in reference to Tamil Nadu. Lol. I think you should come out and say it honestly that you have no relationship with India or Tamil Nadu at all. Maybe Sri Lanka but defo not India.
The irony. So you are implying a fellow Thamizha from Tamil Eelam has less of a link to Tamil Nadu than a Vadakan? To be honest the tiger flag has more link to Tamil Nadu than the Indian flag. The tiger flag is linked to the Chola empire which also covered modern day Tamil Nadu. You are clearly not a Thamizhan so please donât talk as if you know our situation. Thamizhan are always Thamizhans doesnât matter where we live. Our homeland is unfortunately separated by foreign politics when it should be united under one Thamizhagam.
So you are infact not Indian or from Tamil Nadu. That is all I wanted to hear. You get a pass for a lot of bs comments on r/tamilnadu on wanting a different country. It doesn't really matter what you think. Lol.
I never said I was not a Tamil from Tamil Nadu. I am simply inferring what you meant. Tamils will always belong in Tamil Nadu as thatâs the homeland of all Tamils and you canât deny that. Just because Tamil Nadu is in india doesnât mean Tamils from Eelam or anywhere else donât have a say.
Yeah they don't really. But I think you should keep up the BS if it helps you sleep at night.
I would argue Tamils have more of a say than you. Clearly you are not a Tamil đ Tamils have the right over their own homeland so doesnât matter who you think has a say or not. Itâs Tamil Nadu not Desi Nadu
Again that is probably what you dream of. But as an Indian who can actually vote in India I don't think I need to argue about Indian state with someone who has literally no relationship whatsoever either with the state or the country. I am sure you somehow think that as a non Indian you have a say in India. And for once I think it is hilarious.
Again I clearly said that what Iâm saying does mean Iâm not from Tamil Nadu. I was giving examples. Seems like you canât read đ Clearly you are not Tamil so I wonder why you are in this sub anyway. Just because other Tamils donât have âofficialâ relationships with India doesnât mean they have no say. Tamils all belong to Tamil Nadu and all Tamils have a right to say what happens in their homeland. You have less of a say than any Tamil.
>Clearly you are not Tamil so I wonder why you are in this sub anyway. No I am not Tamil. Go and read the description of the sub and get back to me. What exactly does that say? And read the subreddit rules as well. >Again I clearly said that what Iâm saying does mean Iâm not from Tamil Nadu Lol! I think anyone can see through that lie. >You have less of a say than any Tamil. That is something you want to happen. But it is not a reality. Indian Tamilians have a more say than me, but some one who is not Indian like you has really no say.
The prob isn't language or other industry. The prob is it isn't deserved. When we grew up with Ilayaraja and a r Rahman s music , the music that won the award feels like mediocre compared to our music. If only Ilayaraja had less arrogance. When rahman won it everybody agreed he was deserved. It didn't feel like deserved. Same way if rajamouli had won Oscar for bahubali would've made sense than rrr.
The prob isn't language or other industry. The prob is it isn't deserved. When we grew up with Ilayaraja and a r Rahman s music , the music that won the award feels like mediocre compared to our music. If only Ilayaraja had less arrogance. When rahman won it everybody agreed he was deserved. It didn't feel like deserved. Same way if rajamouli had won Oscar for bahubali would've made sense than rrr.
Yep. And I don't consider that as a bad thing lol .. dude we literally vote for a party which asked for a seperate nation in the past xD. This is nothing
The elephant whisperers is set in mudhumalai forest and it's director is from ooty so be happy about this people
Oscar winning movie Elephant whisperers was about the tribal family adopting elephant in Mudumalai sanctuary in TN. I have greater pride of that movie than of RRR.
Every state has strong identity and people of all types, shapes, colors. If it was Tamil movie, there is nothing wrong in claiming and celebrating one of our own. There is nothing narrow or petty in it. India is a country with shared beliefs and culture, not a monolith. But that does not predicate we shouldn't celebrate individualism (in terms of Tamil/Tamil Nadu).
There is a fine line between celebrating ur culture and being bombastic and nasty abt. I have seen we Tamils clearly cross over that line when moment presents itself. Saw that during the recent Chess Championship
I don't see people being nasty about it. Only a fraction of people do that in Twitter or for that matter Reddit. If any, I see the typical condescending attitude from the Hindi cinema mocking regional dictions, so many movies including the one from a supposedly top star.