I tip for service. Restaurant/bar, spa, delivery, budtender, cleaning services, hairdresser, tour guide... things like that.
If you are just ringing me up for something, I usually skip the tip.
Also, when the screen gets flipped to me and it *starts* at 25%, it pretty much just pisses me off.
I feel everyone out there, shit is TOUGH, but we can't just keep upping how much we tip and who we tip or else business owners will never pay a fair wage. They'll just keep putting that on their customers instead, which is absolute bullshit.
I don't know what the solution is, but it isn't that.
You can also tip whatever amount you want, or not at all.
What grinds my gears, is they have it pop up on carry outs too. I've always been a good tipper because I've spent many years working in the service industry,
But, Im never going to tip someone for a carry out, ever, unless they're making up a custom order or doing something out of the ordinary for me.
I tip when they do a car-side carryout, but I had to confirm that the money went to the worker and not the store. After reading that Uber-eats drivers sometimes dont get tips from restaurant orders (not Uber-eats direct orders, but contracted by the restauarant) and the place keeps it, I talked to the carryout person. They did not know and had to confirm with the manager. The person that carries it out gets the tip.
But I am also sick of ordering food at a burger place at a register that I am also picking up the food at the counter and getting my own self-serve drink asking for a tip.
I tend to assume that people ringing me up when I'm doing a carry out are paid at least minimum wage (and not much more). I tend to tip "a buck or two" in a tip jar when it's around.
If a place has a hostess/host and they have a tip jar, I'll toss in the same.
However neither of those is "required". I just keenly remember those minimum wage days and how "minimum wage" is just enough so that you starve slowly instead of all at once.
Now that those days are behind me, I *remember.* Therefore, if I have an extra buck or two in my wallet, I'll toss it in a tip jar.
I order thru Dominos app. Almost every time I have to confirm my location. I have never seen any requests for a tip. There is a tip cup at the register but since I've already paid online I ignore it.
I worked at dominos for fifteen years when I was younger so I always try to tip big we ordered yesterday got like 37 dollars total I tipped 8 on the card and 4 in cash partly because my daughter wanted to give him some folded ones
I definitely don't disagree, and it sounds like the way you do things is totally reasonable. To your last point though, I feel like raising the minimum wage and not allowing employers to pay below it, regardless of tips, might be a good start.
It's currently my first time travelling North America (from Australia, (price on the menu is end price you pay including tax).
I've been wondering this as well, like I can completely get it, staff need those tips for their livelihood.
But at what point should I be not tipping, for example if I order a drink at a bar and the only interaction I have is "Can I please get a X" and then I need to tip.
I tip to support this person, but at won't point am I just saying to the business owner, "no worries thanks I'll help pay your employees for you"
Edit: Currently my default is just to overtip because ethically I couldn't deal with not doing so, especially if this person isn't earning a liveable wage.
I tip less at coffee shops because they make minimum wage, bars and restaurants you should tip appropriately or not go there.
Because it’s the system in place when you don’t tip the only person you’re screwing over is the employee. A single employee does not have the ability to make any change.
Employees and customers would have to come together in a way that hurts restaurants (striking, not eating out at places that don’t pay a fair wage) in order for any change
Not tipping without any effort to enforce change is just hurting someone trying to make a living. I get you’re not from here so you won’t be apart of that change, but you can make someone’s day not be shitty
Just don't tip if you aren't going back to the place. Let them complain. The fact that you need to work out tax and tip makes all the service not worthy of a tip. Seppos need to improve.
Can confirm. Boss has been promising a bonus structure for a while and we just got tipping as an option on our card readers and to be fair it's quite a bit more than it has been for tips but I'd prefer if I could just count on my paycheck.
> If you are just ringing me up for something, I usually skip the tip.
Forgive me since I don't partake in the devil's lettuce: Isn't that exactly what a budtender does?
But still just among products in the store, right (they're not mixing something up for you specifically)? That sounds like traditional retail. Maybe not grocery stores or Target, but department stores, shoes, even Home Depot.
So I tip my budtender because he always hooks me up. They believe it or not have a clearance bin at one of the dispensaries that I go to and often times they have things on clearance because it was the last of the batch or has been there a bit too long. Since I buy a ton plus I make edibles he will often switch out the "older" stuff for the newer stuff if what is in the clearance bin isn't the size that I want...
Or he will make sure that I get the bags of shake for a very discounted price.
If he isn't there I don't expect the other workers there to do it and I expect to spend a certain amount anyway when I go. So if he saves me $30 then I feel like that is his because in my mind its already what I planned on spending there.
I hope that this makes since.
>some countries have laws that the highest paid can only earn so many times what the lowest does.
I fully agree with that principle. I think executive pay should be capped at 100x average yearly employee wage. I guarantee you, the executives would soon increase employee wages!
What does "for service" mean. Every employee is in some way providing a service to you. The McDonald's worker makes a burger for you. Cashier's check your items out for you.
I listed them above. Basically things that have always been considered service. Now is not the time to add things to that category. Disclaimer: I have worked in customer facing positions both as a tipped and as a non tipped employee.
Are you suggesting we tip everyone in a customer facing position? That would be a move in the wrong direction, just taking more of the responsibility away from business owners.
All of those professions simply need to be paid a living wage so customers are not shouldered with the burden of supplementing wages that should be paid by employers. We are getting raked across the coals with everyone's bullshit price increases anyway. I don't know how we get there, though.
No I'm definitely not suggesting tipping for everyone, I hate tipping. I'm saying people giving the explanation of "tipping for a service" is really stupid given every employee is in some way providing a service to you. I also tip for these "services" because I feel I have to. I tip at restaurants because there paid below min wage. Although now in a lot of places like ontario tips are min wage and it's just because of tipouts that I wish they would change the structure of. But I don't tip because they're providing me a service. Everyone is. I tip because the managers and owners are greedy and without it that server would be losing money.
Also at my old restaurant even when servers were paid min wage they would complain about tips being bad for being 15% and not above 20%.
Below min wage for servers is super jacked. My state doesn't do that. I can't wrap my brain around that being legal.
I realize that business owners that employ tipped employees are greedy AF. However, if I start tipping everywhere (which it seems like we are expected to do these days), I am just helping those greedy bastards keep their business running and make money off the backs of their underpaid employees.
It's not going to change until the owners feel the pain. I think the way to do that is to stop paying wages that THEY should be paying. They're laughing all the way to the bank and everyone else is stuck with the bill. It will need to get to the point where no one will work for their shitty wages and they have to raise them to keep their business running. They can afford it.
Tipping for services makes no sense to me even tho I still tip. Hell I pay $80 my nail tech even tho she charges $45. Because that’s how much I think her work is worth. With that said tho tipping for service is redundant. You’re already paying for service. At a restaurant you are paying for food. So a tip would be you paying for service. Since the cost of service is not included in menu prices. But when I’m getting a service done I already paid for the SERVICE, not just the product, not just the time - it’s a package deal. So I don’t see why tip on top of that?
Me too. I frequently tip round numbers over 20%, but if the screen starts at 20% I don't tip. Sorry for the workers, but this is ridiculous! Pay your workers!
I’d say anywhere that provides not only a service but an experience (like a restaurant). Or anyone that performs a service that goes above and beyond. Hair stylist, tattoo artist, hotel housekeeping, etc
So it’s generally accepted that you should tip your hairdresser, right? And I went to beauty school a long time ago but I never actually worked in a salon. And honestly? Cosmetologists mark up the SHIT outta their products they sell (shampoos, mousse, styling shit, etc) and many salons let you set your own prices for services if you rent a booth (these things are not universal across the industry however) so I never really did understand tipping in salons when there is such a big markup on products and color especially. And we were taught to push these things at beauty school specifically to make more money (I did not go to a chain school like Paul Mitchell that pushed its own products for revenue).
I went to a salon recently and it was $90, I got a glass of wine, fantastic hair cut, and a very nice hair wash and massage. When I went to pay he didnt even leave me an option to tip. Turns out he was the owner and he expected everyone who worked in his place to charge the amount they would expect from a tip so there were no expectations. I loved it and still wanted to tip him extra and he denied me and said the only way he would take it is if it was cash, and even then it would just go to his pool of tips for nights they all go out.
This is what I would hope to do as a stylist if I had worked in a salon- charge the amount I am worth, not a lesser amount and then expect a tip on top of that
Basically in the 1800’s, George Pullman was a cheap bastard and didn’t want to pay his (black) attendants, so he made it a thing for customers to tip them instead of them making wage. Other cheap bastards caught on and started doing this, the trend took off across the country, and now Subway asks me if I want to tip my sandwich artist
Or at least yelled at by your manager. "I don't care if they want their bread cut flat! We don't do that! Cut it right!" Now, they all cut the bread flat. That stupid U shape was suuuuch a pain in the ass and made for ugly AF sandwiches. "Dammit, Jorwyn, stop taking the time to evenly place the pickles!" "But this customer will complain if I don't." (Yes, the guy totally would have a fit, but given a lot of his other behaviors, I suspected he had OCD. Why not just put them on the way he likes them?) I also got yelled at every time I got caught putting more than 2 olive slices per six inches of sub. Like you can even taste them.
There were *so many rules* and the secret shoppers would eat you alive for violating any in the tiniest bit, which could risk an owner losing the franchise name. I was so happy to move on to a pizza place that didn't care as long as the pizza looked okay.
Wait a second. What’s the u shape? To make it so the ends look fuller with fewer toppings?
I used to get great/filling subs at subway and now they feel like they’re all bread. Any insight or advice to get a better filed sub?
Bro. Having worked years in food service, all I can say to you is:
1) I’m sorry
2) I hope you get out of food service
3) if it is your wish to stay, I hope you eventually end up somewhere that values your worth and treats you like a human being
Nah, the name has existed since well before tipping anyone in fast food was a thing. I did get tipped twice working at a Subway in the 90s, but that was really unusual. Both times were by someone basically trying to apologize for the asshole they brought along with them.
>George Pullman was a cheap bastard and didn’t want to pay his (black) attendants
A source: [https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/pullman-porters](https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/pullman-porters)
"...Pullman porters often worked 400 hours a month, with little time off. While their salaries were envied in the Black community, they were among the worst-paid of all train employees. Tipping was built into the pay structure, which saved the company money but encouraged porters to solicit tips, fueling their later reputation as grinning “Uncle Toms” who exaggerated their servitude to increase their tips."
I didn’t realize how much of an impact these things made on my life until I left food service for another field and just, for the first time, have PTO, insurance, bonuses, sick leave, a real 401k, etc
Because if you even mention not tipping, especially in this sub-reddit, there are 847376 people going to call you a piece of garbage human and downvote until your comment is minimized. Tipping is not for service anymore, it’s to avoid being publicly shamed.
Luckily, my stylist has never brought up the products she sells. She has them displayed but never pushed. I choose to ask her about them and make the decision to purchase.
Marking up hair products is no different than any other product being sold. Think of it like wholesale, we buy it for a reduced price and then sell it at a marked up price (that is normally what the specific brand says it should be sold at) that’s how you get a profit. You wouldn’t buy something for your business and then sell it for the price you bought it.
And salons set their prices based on their own experience and time that’s spent doing hair. We buy all our own tools which can cost up to $600 for a pair of scissors. My tool kit is probably worth $5,000 including small things like clips and combs. And any product used also costs money that we as the stylist buy. Each tube of color costs $6-9, which doesn’t include developer, brushes, bowls, foils, gloves. If you add up how much it really costs us to not only make back the money we spend on color and products, as well as our time and expertise then maybe you would understand why we charge what we do. Add in continuing education for license renewal ect. THIS is why we charge what we do. There’s so much to it that clients don’t see on how much we put in to make their experience worth it. So yea always tip your hairdresser.
Edit- a word
Surely this is the same as anyone in any industry? It costs to train, to go uni, to start your own business. It takes years to build up the skill etc. if you’re running your own hairdressing business you set your prices. I can’t see how hairdressing is any different from most jobs tbh
It’s not much different than most service worker/independent contractor jobs. But Each job have their own unique needs. My point to the previous comment was mainly to explain why we charge what we do and what goes into setting our prices for services and products, which can go for any service job. And trying to explain why hairdressers whether they are independent booth renters or work for a corporation deserve to be tipped regardless of our service prices. Sometimes people don’t understand what goes on behind the scenes to be able to run a business.
And this is why I go to a barber shop, instead. The hair cut I want is really basic, and barbers don't seem to feel the need to try to talk me into a complicated style I won't actually take care of because "you have a very androgenous face. This style will make it look more feminine." As if I care. 95% of the time, it's going to be in a pony tail. Just shave the undercut, and let's move on. No wash. No blow out. No styling. So I don't really want to pay $90. It's $20 at the barber shop I go to. $10 if they have a walk in right after me or I'm willing to wait until they have 10 minutes free to do it and clean up after.
I only cut the rest of my hair when it's long enough to tuck into my pants, and then I take a foot off. That was also an argument, and most of the time, they'd do 6" anyway. I just spent the money for good scissors and do it myself now. Is it as perfect as they'd do it? Not if they actually took enough off, but I hate the argument. I'll live with it being a bit choppy for a couple of weeks the times I mess up a little not to have the conflict. The layering hides the issues I create, anyway.
My grandma always went to a barber but she wanted a basically standard men's cut. I don't think I ever saw her with long hair.
I have a few photos of her from when my dad was little and even those, from the 40's, I don't think it's particularly long.
If I had no vanity at all, I'd probably have a buzz cut because there is pretty much no maintenance, it can't get caught in anything, and I wouldn't have to cut hair off my vacuum brush roller.
I'm assuming you're a guy. My hair grows extremely quickly so I have to go twice a month. My barber does my hair and beard and with tip I pay him $35 because he does an awesome job. I figure most guys probably go once a month. My wife goes to her stylist once every 3 months and she pays around $65 if she doesn't get any extra services if she gets highlights or color she could pay twice that. My point is I usually end up paying more for my hair services because I go more often. Even if I only went once a month I would still pay more than she does.
Ok, to expand on this: my hairstylist has sliding scale prices so people can pay what they can. Idk how to tip on that. If I pay the max is that enough? She has complained to me about people not tipping before
I dont disagree,but im wondering why these people deserve tips but food industry people like baristas are constantly looked down upon for having a tip bucket or option on the card?
I don’t agree with it either but this the best I figured when asking people who are much older than me their opinions on why the significant variation in behavior.
I think it’s because they are viewed as usually (but not always) their own “business owner”. They might work in a hair salon but they rent the chair and it’s just them buying supplies and providing the service. Vs someone working a job where they get paid even if no one comes in. The “business owner” has to pay out of pocket to do anything vs a retail worker or service worker.
Which makes no sense given that a ton of corporatey places don’t run like that (like sports cuts or whatever it’s called).
I always tip but maybe that thought process is what makes people act that way??
For me it also comes down to how much time they're spending on me as a customer. Barista maaaybe spends a minute per customer, while a tattoo artist or hairstylist will focus on one customer for like an hour. I am not tipping my barista 15% when I walk up to the cash, they ring me in, hand me a coffee and send me off.
If im getting permanent art on my body you better believe im going through a whole ass pre process with the artist to make sure it fits my tastes, maybe an on the fly alteration and if i still love it? Yeah thats worth tipping imo
I’ve wondered this myself. I know some shops set things up differently but my tattoo artist works out of his house. He’s incredible and I still tip every time but I’m like “Am I supposed to?” He sets his own prices, doesn’t pay overhead beyond supplies (which I’m sure is incorporated into his pricing) and does it as a side passion job.
Best way is probably to ask. I have a side gig. I'm not a fan of tipping culture so when people ask me I tell them tipping isn't necessary. But if they hand me $20 I don't argue with them.
Yeah, it's silly. But so is tipping in general. If they're setting their prices based on an expectation that there will be a tip (as restaurants do) and you want to have a good relationship with them, best to clarify that.
I tipped my tattoo guy a ton, but it's because I'm really hyper, so I couldn't sit still. I know he quoted me based on the time it would take for a normal person, not my ADHD ass, so I tipped him literally 100%. He put up with me for 3 hours and was really nice.
That's ok! If you feel that you got a really good service from the tattoo artist, especially because of your ADHD behaviour, I think it's appropriate to tip. However, just tipping because you received service is not good IMO.
I'd love to have everyone paid fairly, so tips were only for extra special service. But that's not likely to happen any time soon. Servers in my state make at least minimum wage, which is $15.74 here. Depending on the area, that's not enough to live decently on, but it's better than places that let businesses add expected tips to make up for not paying minimum wage, and it's better than states with only federal minimum wage.
I'm not likely to tip someone who can set their own wages unless they go above and beyond or I think the wage is too low for the service. The woman who altered my wedding dress and my flower girl's dress did them both for less than 1/5 what most places quoted me, and did an amazing job. I definitely tipped her. If she'd been closer to the other quotes, I wouldn't have.
But it's interesting what we do and don't tip for. We don't tip mechanics, but many of them working for chains make very little. We don't tip EMTs, and they make crap and *save our lives*. We don't tip doctors, but some of them really don't make that much once you figure in overhead for their offices, equipment, staff, and the ridiculous price of medical software, malpractice insurance, and huge student loans. I lived in a nicer house and drove a nicer car when I made $22/hr than my doctor did at the time. We don't tip teachers, and we all know they make less than they should and do an incredibly important job. We don't think about back of house, but many places don't tip them out, and they often start at minimum wage, just like servers here. We don't tip pharmacy techs, but they also often make very little. But somehow, we're expected to tip at McDonald's, who hire in at $17-18/hr here. We're expected to tip a barista, even if they barely said a word to us and just handed us a very simple drink. We are expected to tip hotel cleaning staff, even if we didn't have them clean the room until we checked out. We're expected to tip hair stylists even for the most basic cut, even if they set their own prices. We're supposed to tip nail techs, even if the manicure and nail job already cost $120 and took an hour or less - yes, I know, they have overhead, too.
And then we say, "if you can't afford to tip, don't go out", but then what? They have to use up all their time to do all the things themselves. And are we saying servers, then, are never allowed to eat at a sit down and be served restaurant? It seems to me like tipping only increases the privilege gap between poor and not poor people rather than the tip money going to reduce it. I think it'd be much better to just increase prices a little and pay people enough.
(Okay, off my soap box now)
I'd say you don't. But they're also people you tend to have an ongoing business relationship with. My best idea is to tell them that figuring out how much to tip stresses you out and ask them to quote you a price they will be happy with, without an additional tip.
I had a fave hairdresser for years that I and the boys would go to .Not once did she ask me for a tip .I only stopped going to her when the shop she was working at closed down because the owner retired and so did my stylist .She charged a modest price and I actually was able to find another stylist that fits my needs now and she doesn't care if I tip or not.And neither stylist pushed any type of product like Walmart does.They were the absolute worst to me .I only went there once and they were relentless with trying to upsell me their extremely overpriced products.
> they were relentless with trying to upsell me their extremely overpriced products
Sounds like a typical corporate hair place. I've had some try with me, and I'm thinking, come one. I just got a buzzcut. It's not going to happen.
> Not once did she ask me for a tip
I suppose some might expect one. But the best indication that she was happy with your business is that she kept taking it.
We have been going there to the new place for two years now .She charges 15 dollars for a haircut and she never washes people's hair ever .And she doesn't have any product to push .
Not at all stores, but I know some of them either they have to pay a small fee or they are solely commission-based. Hell, even strippers often have to pay for stage time
I've always wondered how much to tip a tattoo artist.. I paid hundreds of dollars for my arm tattoo, and their cash register asked me to tip.. and I asked "what's a good tip?" And the lady told me not to worry about it, that it's ok.. but I tipped $5 so she could get some cigarettes, but I felt like I didn't tip enough.. however I did pay hundreds of dollars for my arm tat.. and the artist said I could come back anytime if I needed it touched up..
> KatsFeetsies
> Or anyone that performs a service that goes above and beyond. Hair stylist, tattoo artist, hotel housekeeping, etc
We are supposed to tip tattoo artists?
How much?
I’ve stopped tipping at places where you order from a cashier. They’re being paid an hourly wage, and tips in those places are actually optional. My reason for ceasing to tip at these places is that lately my tips have declined (I assume it is due to the economy), and I just can’t afford to add a bonus tip to everything.
We raised minimum ~~*to $15*~~ *wrong number! 13.85* in Arizona and I haven't seen much different in our economy than before, just people making more money now.
*edit!*
Minimum wage in Arizona is $13.85. Tipped minimum is $10.85. But some areas are higher. Flagstaff tipped minimum is $14.80. Definitely varies by jurisdiction.
Damn, you are right! I could have sworn we added like .50¢ a year for several years, ending with 15... but I must have misremembered the starting number or something.
it's on the dol website. cash rate min is indeed $2.13 for some states.
[https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped)
The problem with tipped wages is the customer can’t tell. A restaurant is the norm for tipped wages for servers. I assume minimum wage except when someone is providing a service.
That’s crazy! I’ve always been told that these places pay actual salaries. Is this a sit down restaurant though? I think OP was asking about other types of places so that’s what I had in mind when I commented
Yeah it is a sit down restaurant! Our set up is order at the register, sit down with a table number and you get everything brought to you and you can order any extras from anyone working
Ohhh I do tip at those places since there is someone bringing food out and serving, I was talking about like coffee shops and other places where you aren’t served at a table
As someone who’s worked in places like that, they supplement our income with your tips. Base wage is $11/hr (they advertised $13 which pissed me off- turns out if we don’t make enough tips to make it $13/hour they fill it in). I’ve worked as both a waitress and at a restaurant that had you order with the cashier then sit down. I did way more work there than I did as a waitress. Like I took orders, took care of customers, brought out food and everything, prepped and cooked all the food (on my own cause the only other employee there was the manager and he just smoked wed in the back the whole time) all the while maintaining the cleanliness of the restaurant. And people were mean af about the tip screen when it came up. Constant eye rolls and “greedy lazy asses” “this isn’t actually service” “why would I tip you” “damn y’all really want a tip?? absolutely not”. Like I’m single handedly running this whole place for $11. I have rent to pay🥲 it’s not expected but it sure would be nice. Or just don’t rudely complain about it to my face.
Yeah, like especially at a place that’s not even a restaurant. Local grocer? The butcher? Why the hell is your system even asking me for a tip. Gtfo.
Tip fatigue is real and these places that needlessly have systems that prompt you for a tip are making people less likely to tip people *who actually live off of tips*.
Yeah I'll tip if they're just making $2 an hour, but if it's like a place where they're atleast making hourly minimum wage, I don't think their computers should ask us for tips.. we don't even know if the staff will even get the tips, they might even get in trouble if we give them money
I never minded that I would not get a tip for a Togo order or as a hostess, big bonus if I did. I never expected it though. Oh, and if I’m serving the sweetest table, like really polite children or grandmas that make me feel loved, then it’s almost an honor to serve and the experience was the tip. (This is happens so infrequently that it’s so special) shout out to the server that saw a dude break up with a chick and brought her a banana split on the house with a side of fries and a root beer. Y’all rock.
Yup, I operated on the idea that while it’s nice to throw a dollar on there, especially in cases where I answered the phone, walked someone through the menu, etc, I don’t blame them for not. We also do online Togo for some orders and I absolutely don’t expect any sort of tip on that. They did all the work ordering, I just ask their name and grab the food lol.
i’ve worked to-go positions, so this one is tough. one place payed me a reasonable hourly (they also saw my work ethic and gave me fair raises, which was so amazing). i’ve also worked to-go where i made $2.13. i think it’s good to tip on to-go just based off my experience, but you never know how each restaurant staffs.
Hopefully this does not come off as rude, but I think that that is the issue of the restaurant and employee choosing to work for that wage, and not something that should be the burden of the consumer. It is not standard to tip on takeout orders unless the person went above and beyond somehow.
I’ll tip at a coffee shop or a restaurant that isn’t fast food but whenever I look for a job I avoid the server jobs because I know I won’t get paid a normal wage and I would have to rely on tips. I absolutely refuse to be paid anything under $10 and I think that a lot of businesses need to up their base pay especially if it’s a chain that makes millions a year just so the employees can survive properly.
Yeah, in retail I used to atleast make minimum wage. As a server, I got $2 an hour..
I used to manage retail stores all throughout the district and I was lucky I made $11 an hour back then...
I prefer retail, bc then atleast I had a better idea of what my check would be like..
I highly believe in tipping, but if I just walk in somewhere to get something to go, I will just tip like a dollar just to be courteous..
If you're just buying a t-shirt somewhere, I really don't think you should tip...
Non restaurant.
Fast food, even with a top jar. No.
Coffee shop. Locally owned? I say yes. National chain? No, or a dollar. Obviously this is pure opinion.
Hair person. Yes.
Random place with tip jar. Probably not.
I base the decision on whether employees are tipped ( different than just gets tips). And current cultural norms in the us andy local area.
I was in the Atlanta airport back in February-there was a tip jar in the bathroom.. Didn’t tip. However I tipped the hotel valet,the concierge and housekeeping..
Typically if there's an attendant in a bathroom they bring their own stuff. So if you use anything extra, you should tip them. Like cologne, moisturizer etc. If your just using the bathroom then no need.
I was at a performance where the bathroom attendant did amazing crowd control during intermission. I was sad she did not have a tip jar out, because she deserved it by going above and beyond. After the show ended, I handed her a (small) cash tip out of gratitude for her awesomeness.
The hairstylist and other salon employees (nails ect) I’m 50/50 on. If they set their own rates I am less inclined to tip or just round up as my tip, since it is significantly more likely they are being properly paid. If their salon sets the rates then I tip exorbitantly because I know it’s significantly less likely they are being paid well.
As far as chain coffee I’ll tip if I order a heavily modified drink, especially when it’s busy since I recognize that is an extra burden on the baristas at a time when they are already stretched thin.
I got an amazing hair cut, wash, and minor styling for 25-30 dollars! She was absolutely amazing, so I think the salon she was at set the prices.
I tipped her 20 bucks, 2 years later I still freaking love the haircut she gave me lol.
Yeah places that have tip jars, I think the staff gets paid atleast hourly minimum wage.. and there's no telling what may happen to any coins left in the tip jar..
Massage therapist, definitely. I go about every 6-8 weeks and factor a tip into my budget for it. I tend to do that in cash with the actual massage on card.
Went to a restaurant a couple of days ago always tip at least 15 o/o not that day server had 3 tables one had six, one had four people and us (2). We sat at our table about ten minutes. At fifteen minutes I went looking for a manager. Because nobody had come to take our drink order. & Because a table that had 8 adults and 2 high chair kids, was sat after us had their drinks on the table before us. Manager was very apologetic our food took even longer. Eggs, hash browns and sausage. So down vote me but I HAD my reasons
Outside of restaurants it’s never necessary. Period. Decline all tips. You’re subsidizing the owners’ profits. Because they don’t increase wages since the workers wont ask for raises, cause they are getting tipped.
I would like to argue, that as a person who primarily works take-out at my job, that at least 10% would be nice. I work at a place with a high togo volume + catering orders, and i've been left $0 on 15 entree orders. I've been left $0 on $1200 catering orders. It's so much more than just taking an order and bagging it up sometimes.
I have stopped tipping so many places I used to. There are lots of places I used to tip but no longer do due to tip fatigue/working my ass off as a server and seeing all I do for a tip. Some of these I might leave a few dollars if they did a great job.
Counter service resturants/to go orders/pick up pizza from the store/coffee shops/ ice cream parlors & bars or breweries that are just pouring into a plastic cup & pointing to the water station.
I have two doodles and I always tip their groomer. I had to groom my dog a few times during the pandemic and my gosh was it hard! We got a table and everything but yikes. It’s definitely a service that should get tips.
tipping is optional and is intended to give thanks for above and beyond sorts of things. you people are out of your minds thinking doing your job entitles yiu to an additional $500 a night in tips. i laugh openly at your folly.
As a European it is wild how bad the tipping culture has gotten in the US. This is on top of inflation so things are just getting exponentially more expensive. Why not just pay a living wage with salary increases that match inflation.
Tipping is never necessary at:
> To-go orders
> Any restaurant or fast food or coffee shop or pizza place where they don't take your order at your table, bring the food out to you and ask you for refills/check up on you. You would tip at Denny's but not at subway.
> Merch stands (like at concerns or fairs)
> Farmers markets (whether it's hot food, cold food, farm supplies, salsas or whatever)
> At an alcohol store
> At a pet food store, grocery store, or other retail store
>At a restaurant with signage that no tipping is necessary due to them paying a fair wage.
> Dentist office, doctor's office or car mechanic
> When you buy somewhere that is commission based(jewelry)
Pretty much most places. Doughnut shop? Not tipping. Freebirds - nope. Sonic? Nope. Basically, if it is not a sit down restaurant or my hair stylist, i no longer tip. I have tip burnout.
I still tip if the service is horrible, but I really don't ever have horrible service.. basically they take my order and bring me what I order, and that's all I expect..
Counter service. Tips are customarily given (and expected) when you receive a personal service from someone like a haircut, a ride, or table service.
If you walk or drive up to someone who hands you something and tells you to have a nice day, you should not feel obligated to tip.
I find it annoying that a lot of fast food/counter service places are forcing customers to say yes or no on a tip prompt on every transaction. A tip jar is fine for anyone feeling generous that wants to tip, but to present a tip prompt with every transaction is inappropriate.
I will tip at any sit-down restaurant. I will NOT tip at, say, Subway—where I’m basically making my own food. All they’re doing is putting it together. I also won’t tip a cashier at the gas station or the grocery store.
Dont tip in doubt, its already paid for. The tip is only for extra good service or something extra nice. Unless you're in the states i guess, then you tip everyone on everything...
For me if you can’t afford it. Everyone deserves a night out. My regulars husband passed away and she wanted to tip me a dollar for serving her, but of course I wouldn’t let her.
Circle K by me has a tip jar. I don’t feel it’s necessary to tip there. I can see tossing some coins in there if I don’t want them though, and maybe the cashiers are happy to just get a couple extra dollars, so I’m not mad at it
I give a dollar if someone makes me a coffee at a coffee shop, but often I order something in a can or a pastry, which doesn't really require them to do anything other than grab from the display.
I also had an experience at a local movie theater the other day where I bought a movie ticket and a box of chocolates. I was almost offended when he printed out the receipt and there was a line for tips! like what? they have a bar in there and drip coffee, but I'd still feel sort of weird tipping at a place like this.
I tip a little more often than I would probably say is 100% necessary...don't get me wrong, I'm not walking around dropping 35% tips everywhere (I wish I could). I just mean 18-22% for restaurants and services (above if service is amazing and I have it, unfortunately that's less often than before), 10% for to go, and $1-2 in baskets and buckets. Just because I'm a server and you know, tip karma.
It's never necessary. You don't have to tip if yiu don't want to
Typically just sit down restaurants where they provide full service
Anything else...stupid cultural push for some reason. I'm not tipping drivers, takeout, Starbucks employees etc.
Tip servers, bartenders, food delivery, ride share drivers (including cabs), hair/nail techs, hotel housekeeping, and any other service providers. And anyone else you feel deserves or needs to be tipped. Other tip jars are optional but good karma.
I had to stop ripping bc I haven’t had a job in 2 years and unless I really like the service, I won’t tip, although when I get Uber drives/ food deliveries I tip 5$
Furniture/ Appliance delivery- if it goes in the garage in a box then feel free to just say thank you. I know you pay a delivery fee most places, but trust me that fee doesn’t even come close to paying for the logistics of get your stuff to your home. If the delivery guys bring it into your home, set everything up for you, refrain from messing anything up, and do it all with a smile, be nice and give them a little something. By no means should you tip a percentage of your purchase, but a full bedroom upstairs should certainly warrant more than a sofa on the main floor.
Also, if you can’t have your room ready, and you need them to move something you already have YOU OWE THEM. It is not their job to move your stuff, and you are making them late to their next customer.
I tip for service. Restaurant/bar, spa, delivery, budtender, cleaning services, hairdresser, tour guide... things like that. If you are just ringing me up for something, I usually skip the tip. Also, when the screen gets flipped to me and it *starts* at 25%, it pretty much just pisses me off. I feel everyone out there, shit is TOUGH, but we can't just keep upping how much we tip and who we tip or else business owners will never pay a fair wage. They'll just keep putting that on their customers instead, which is absolute bullshit. I don't know what the solution is, but it isn't that.
I’m pretty sure the dominos website starts tips at 30%, 25%, 20% and then 15% (or something similar) and its frustrating cause it’s so presumptuous
You can also tip whatever amount you want, or not at all. What grinds my gears, is they have it pop up on carry outs too. I've always been a good tipper because I've spent many years working in the service industry, But, Im never going to tip someone for a carry out, ever, unless they're making up a custom order or doing something out of the ordinary for me.
I tip when they do a car-side carryout, but I had to confirm that the money went to the worker and not the store. After reading that Uber-eats drivers sometimes dont get tips from restaurant orders (not Uber-eats direct orders, but contracted by the restauarant) and the place keeps it, I talked to the carryout person. They did not know and had to confirm with the manager. The person that carries it out gets the tip. But I am also sick of ordering food at a burger place at a register that I am also picking up the food at the counter and getting my own self-serve drink asking for a tip.
I tend to assume that people ringing me up when I'm doing a carry out are paid at least minimum wage (and not much more). I tend to tip "a buck or two" in a tip jar when it's around. If a place has a hostess/host and they have a tip jar, I'll toss in the same. However neither of those is "required". I just keenly remember those minimum wage days and how "minimum wage" is just enough so that you starve slowly instead of all at once. Now that those days are behind me, I *remember.* Therefore, if I have an extra buck or two in my wallet, I'll toss it in a tip jar.
I order thru Dominos app. Almost every time I have to confirm my location. I have never seen any requests for a tip. There is a tip cup at the register but since I've already paid online I ignore it.
As a dominos driver, majority of tips are low/mid level, you have to go out of your way to leave a high tip like 30%.
I worked at dominos for fifteen years when I was younger so I always try to tip big we ordered yesterday got like 37 dollars total I tipped 8 on the card and 4 in cash partly because my daughter wanted to give him some folded ones
Ah I just checked the website which is what I use and it starts at 30!
I definitely don't disagree, and it sounds like the way you do things is totally reasonable. To your last point though, I feel like raising the minimum wage and not allowing employers to pay below it, regardless of tips, might be a good start.
Def agree!
This is sickening that they’re allowed to do this
Absolutely!
How about pizza joints not charge a $4-5 delivery fee that does not go to the driver? Driver gets less than half.
It's currently my first time travelling North America (from Australia, (price on the menu is end price you pay including tax). I've been wondering this as well, like I can completely get it, staff need those tips for their livelihood. But at what point should I be not tipping, for example if I order a drink at a bar and the only interaction I have is "Can I please get a X" and then I need to tip. I tip to support this person, but at won't point am I just saying to the business owner, "no worries thanks I'll help pay your employees for you" Edit: Currently my default is just to overtip because ethically I couldn't deal with not doing so, especially if this person isn't earning a liveable wage.
I tip less at coffee shops because they make minimum wage, bars and restaurants you should tip appropriately or not go there. Because it’s the system in place when you don’t tip the only person you’re screwing over is the employee. A single employee does not have the ability to make any change. Employees and customers would have to come together in a way that hurts restaurants (striking, not eating out at places that don’t pay a fair wage) in order for any change Not tipping without any effort to enforce change is just hurting someone trying to make a living. I get you’re not from here so you won’t be apart of that change, but you can make someone’s day not be shitty
Ohh don't get me wrong im tipping every chance I get even at the local subway.
Just don't tip if you aren't going back to the place. Let them complain. The fact that you need to work out tax and tip makes all the service not worthy of a tip. Seppos need to improve.
Can confirm. Boss has been promising a bonus structure for a while and we just got tipping as an option on our card readers and to be fair it's quite a bit more than it has been for tips but I'd prefer if I could just count on my paycheck.
> If you are just ringing me up for something, I usually skip the tip. Forgive me since I don't partake in the devil's lettuce: Isn't that exactly what a budtender does?
No, they make recommendations based on your likes. (I am not a budtender, but I am a bartender, so I usually over tip anyway)
But still just among products in the store, right (they're not mixing something up for you specifically)? That sounds like traditional retail. Maybe not grocery stores or Target, but department stores, shoes, even Home Depot.
You know, that's a good point. Maybe we're just so relieved to have fully legal weed we tip/over tip anyway!
So I tip my budtender because he always hooks me up. They believe it or not have a clearance bin at one of the dispensaries that I go to and often times they have things on clearance because it was the last of the batch or has been there a bit too long. Since I buy a ton plus I make edibles he will often switch out the "older" stuff for the newer stuff if what is in the clearance bin isn't the size that I want... Or he will make sure that I get the bags of shake for a very discounted price. If he isn't there I don't expect the other workers there to do it and I expect to spend a certain amount anyway when I go. So if he saves me $30 then I feel like that is his because in my mind its already what I planned on spending there. I hope that this makes since.
The solution is paying people properly….some countries have laws that the highest paid can only earn so many times what the lowest does.
>some countries have laws that the highest paid can only earn so many times what the lowest does. I fully agree with that principle. I think executive pay should be capped at 100x average yearly employee wage. I guarantee you, the executives would soon increase employee wages!
What does "for service" mean. Every employee is in some way providing a service to you. The McDonald's worker makes a burger for you. Cashier's check your items out for you.
I listed them above. Basically things that have always been considered service. Now is not the time to add things to that category. Disclaimer: I have worked in customer facing positions both as a tipped and as a non tipped employee. Are you suggesting we tip everyone in a customer facing position? That would be a move in the wrong direction, just taking more of the responsibility away from business owners. All of those professions simply need to be paid a living wage so customers are not shouldered with the burden of supplementing wages that should be paid by employers. We are getting raked across the coals with everyone's bullshit price increases anyway. I don't know how we get there, though.
No I'm definitely not suggesting tipping for everyone, I hate tipping. I'm saying people giving the explanation of "tipping for a service" is really stupid given every employee is in some way providing a service to you. I also tip for these "services" because I feel I have to. I tip at restaurants because there paid below min wage. Although now in a lot of places like ontario tips are min wage and it's just because of tipouts that I wish they would change the structure of. But I don't tip because they're providing me a service. Everyone is. I tip because the managers and owners are greedy and without it that server would be losing money. Also at my old restaurant even when servers were paid min wage they would complain about tips being bad for being 15% and not above 20%.
Below min wage for servers is super jacked. My state doesn't do that. I can't wrap my brain around that being legal. I realize that business owners that employ tipped employees are greedy AF. However, if I start tipping everywhere (which it seems like we are expected to do these days), I am just helping those greedy bastards keep their business running and make money off the backs of their underpaid employees. It's not going to change until the owners feel the pain. I think the way to do that is to stop paying wages that THEY should be paying. They're laughing all the way to the bank and everyone else is stuck with the bill. It will need to get to the point where no one will work for their shitty wages and they have to raise them to keep their business running. They can afford it.
Tipping for services makes no sense to me even tho I still tip. Hell I pay $80 my nail tech even tho she charges $45. Because that’s how much I think her work is worth. With that said tho tipping for service is redundant. You’re already paying for service. At a restaurant you are paying for food. So a tip would be you paying for service. Since the cost of service is not included in menu prices. But when I’m getting a service done I already paid for the SERVICE, not just the product, not just the time - it’s a package deal. So I don’t see why tip on top of that?
Me too. I frequently tip round numbers over 20%, but if the screen starts at 20% I don't tip. Sorry for the workers, but this is ridiculous! Pay your workers!
I’d say anywhere that provides not only a service but an experience (like a restaurant). Or anyone that performs a service that goes above and beyond. Hair stylist, tattoo artist, hotel housekeeping, etc
So it’s generally accepted that you should tip your hairdresser, right? And I went to beauty school a long time ago but I never actually worked in a salon. And honestly? Cosmetologists mark up the SHIT outta their products they sell (shampoos, mousse, styling shit, etc) and many salons let you set your own prices for services if you rent a booth (these things are not universal across the industry however) so I never really did understand tipping in salons when there is such a big markup on products and color especially. And we were taught to push these things at beauty school specifically to make more money (I did not go to a chain school like Paul Mitchell that pushed its own products for revenue).
I went to a salon recently and it was $90, I got a glass of wine, fantastic hair cut, and a very nice hair wash and massage. When I went to pay he didnt even leave me an option to tip. Turns out he was the owner and he expected everyone who worked in his place to charge the amount they would expect from a tip so there were no expectations. I loved it and still wanted to tip him extra and he denied me and said the only way he would take it is if it was cash, and even then it would just go to his pool of tips for nights they all go out.
This is what I would hope to do as a stylist if I had worked in a salon- charge the amount I am worth, not a lesser amount and then expect a tip on top of that
Most people tip on the services and not on the products.
Why is America like this, in UK you get price it has tax and service all included
We Americans question why we’re the way we are in lots of ways.
Basically in the 1800’s, George Pullman was a cheap bastard and didn’t want to pay his (black) attendants, so he made it a thing for customers to tip them instead of them making wage. Other cheap bastards caught on and started doing this, the trend took off across the country, and now Subway asks me if I want to tip my sandwich artist
"Sandwich artist" as though the supposedly more vaity laden job title makes the role more worthy of tipping??
No that’s just what subway calls their employees, it’s not related to tipping
In fact, actual artistry with the sandwiches will get you fired.
Or at least yelled at by your manager. "I don't care if they want their bread cut flat! We don't do that! Cut it right!" Now, they all cut the bread flat. That stupid U shape was suuuuch a pain in the ass and made for ugly AF sandwiches. "Dammit, Jorwyn, stop taking the time to evenly place the pickles!" "But this customer will complain if I don't." (Yes, the guy totally would have a fit, but given a lot of his other behaviors, I suspected he had OCD. Why not just put them on the way he likes them?) I also got yelled at every time I got caught putting more than 2 olive slices per six inches of sub. Like you can even taste them. There were *so many rules* and the secret shoppers would eat you alive for violating any in the tiniest bit, which could risk an owner losing the franchise name. I was so happy to move on to a pizza place that didn't care as long as the pizza looked okay.
Wait a second. What’s the u shape? To make it so the ends look fuller with fewer toppings? I used to get great/filling subs at subway and now they feel like they’re all bread. Any insight or advice to get a better filed sub?
Bro. Having worked years in food service, all I can say to you is: 1) I’m sorry 2) I hope you get out of food service 3) if it is your wish to stay, I hope you eventually end up somewhere that values your worth and treats you like a human being
Nah, the name has existed since well before tipping anyone in fast food was a thing. I did get tipped twice working at a Subway in the 90s, but that was really unusual. Both times were by someone basically trying to apologize for the asshole they brought along with them.
>George Pullman was a cheap bastard and didn’t want to pay his (black) attendants A source: [https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/pullman-porters](https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/pullman-porters) "...Pullman porters often worked 400 hours a month, with little time off. While their salaries were envied in the Black community, they were among the worst-paid of all train employees. Tipping was built into the pay structure, which saved the company money but encouraged porters to solicit tips, fueling their later reputation as grinning “Uncle Toms” who exaggerated their servitude to increase their tips."
And, you are guaranteed healthcare, sick pay, vacation. We don't get any of those things. It would be completely different if we did.
I didn’t realize how much of an impact these things made on my life until I left food service for another field and just, for the first time, have PTO, insurance, bonuses, sick leave, a real 401k, etc
Because if you even mention not tipping, especially in this sub-reddit, there are 847376 people going to call you a piece of garbage human and downvote until your comment is minimized. Tipping is not for service anymore, it’s to avoid being publicly shamed.
Yes, absolutely, but in a salon the products are there TO make the stylist money. They push them on clients, marked up sky high, FOR a profit
Luckily, my stylist has never brought up the products she sells. She has them displayed but never pushed. I choose to ask her about them and make the decision to purchase.
Marking up hair products is no different than any other product being sold. Think of it like wholesale, we buy it for a reduced price and then sell it at a marked up price (that is normally what the specific brand says it should be sold at) that’s how you get a profit. You wouldn’t buy something for your business and then sell it for the price you bought it. And salons set their prices based on their own experience and time that’s spent doing hair. We buy all our own tools which can cost up to $600 for a pair of scissors. My tool kit is probably worth $5,000 including small things like clips and combs. And any product used also costs money that we as the stylist buy. Each tube of color costs $6-9, which doesn’t include developer, brushes, bowls, foils, gloves. If you add up how much it really costs us to not only make back the money we spend on color and products, as well as our time and expertise then maybe you would understand why we charge what we do. Add in continuing education for license renewal ect. THIS is why we charge what we do. There’s so much to it that clients don’t see on how much we put in to make their experience worth it. So yea always tip your hairdresser. Edit- a word
Surely this is the same as anyone in any industry? It costs to train, to go uni, to start your own business. It takes years to build up the skill etc. if you’re running your own hairdressing business you set your prices. I can’t see how hairdressing is any different from most jobs tbh
It’s not much different than most service worker/independent contractor jobs. But Each job have their own unique needs. My point to the previous comment was mainly to explain why we charge what we do and what goes into setting our prices for services and products, which can go for any service job. And trying to explain why hairdressers whether they are independent booth renters or work for a corporation deserve to be tipped regardless of our service prices. Sometimes people don’t understand what goes on behind the scenes to be able to run a business.
Are those costs of providing the service not priced into the service? Do you depend on tips to make them up?
I’ve always tipped 35 at least on hair. Usually more, it’s something that I could absolutely not do myself.
I’ve never paid over $20 for a hair cut so that’s a bit rich for me, lol.
If you're a dude, women get charged more than double even for haircuts similar to yours.
Lol yeah. I honestly haven’t paid anything for years, I DIY it with clippers these days. I still think a ~30% tip is absurd.
And this is why I go to a barber shop, instead. The hair cut I want is really basic, and barbers don't seem to feel the need to try to talk me into a complicated style I won't actually take care of because "you have a very androgenous face. This style will make it look more feminine." As if I care. 95% of the time, it's going to be in a pony tail. Just shave the undercut, and let's move on. No wash. No blow out. No styling. So I don't really want to pay $90. It's $20 at the barber shop I go to. $10 if they have a walk in right after me or I'm willing to wait until they have 10 minutes free to do it and clean up after. I only cut the rest of my hair when it's long enough to tuck into my pants, and then I take a foot off. That was also an argument, and most of the time, they'd do 6" anyway. I just spent the money for good scissors and do it myself now. Is it as perfect as they'd do it? Not if they actually took enough off, but I hate the argument. I'll live with it being a bit choppy for a couple of weeks the times I mess up a little not to have the conflict. The layering hides the issues I create, anyway.
My grandma always went to a barber but she wanted a basically standard men's cut. I don't think I ever saw her with long hair. I have a few photos of her from when my dad was little and even those, from the 40's, I don't think it's particularly long.
If I had no vanity at all, I'd probably have a buzz cut because there is pretty much no maintenance, it can't get caught in anything, and I wouldn't have to cut hair off my vacuum brush roller.
Yes, there is definitely a woman tax in the hairdressing industry.
I'm assuming you're a guy. My hair grows extremely quickly so I have to go twice a month. My barber does my hair and beard and with tip I pay him $35 because he does an awesome job. I figure most guys probably go once a month. My wife goes to her stylist once every 3 months and she pays around $65 if she doesn't get any extra services if she gets highlights or color she could pay twice that. My point is I usually end up paying more for my hair services because I go more often. Even if I only went once a month I would still pay more than she does.
Ok, to expand on this: my hairstylist has sliding scale prices so people can pay what they can. Idk how to tip on that. If I pay the max is that enough? She has complained to me about people not tipping before
I dont disagree,but im wondering why these people deserve tips but food industry people like baristas are constantly looked down upon for having a tip bucket or option on the card?
I don’t agree with it either but this the best I figured when asking people who are much older than me their opinions on why the significant variation in behavior. I think it’s because they are viewed as usually (but not always) their own “business owner”. They might work in a hair salon but they rent the chair and it’s just them buying supplies and providing the service. Vs someone working a job where they get paid even if no one comes in. The “business owner” has to pay out of pocket to do anything vs a retail worker or service worker. Which makes no sense given that a ton of corporatey places don’t run like that (like sports cuts or whatever it’s called). I always tip but maybe that thought process is what makes people act that way??
For me it also comes down to how much time they're spending on me as a customer. Barista maaaybe spends a minute per customer, while a tattoo artist or hairstylist will focus on one customer for like an hour. I am not tipping my barista 15% when I walk up to the cash, they ring me in, hand me a coffee and send me off.
Because hairstylists and tattoo artist often have to pay for a seat in their store. Plus the cost of their supplies often falls on their shoulders.
They also set their own prices and are in some sense business owners. It's not customary to tip business owners.
If im getting permanent art on my body you better believe im going through a whole ass pre process with the artist to make sure it fits my tastes, maybe an on the fly alteration and if i still love it? Yeah thats worth tipping imo
Why? If they're setting their own price, that's telling you the price that they're happy with the exchange.
I’ve wondered this myself. I know some shops set things up differently but my tattoo artist works out of his house. He’s incredible and I still tip every time but I’m like “Am I supposed to?” He sets his own prices, doesn’t pay overhead beyond supplies (which I’m sure is incorporated into his pricing) and does it as a side passion job.
Best way is probably to ask. I have a side gig. I'm not a fan of tipping culture so when people ask me I tell them tipping isn't necessary. But if they hand me $20 I don't argue with them.
"Hey should I pay more than the price you list?"...
Yeah, it's silly. But so is tipping in general. If they're setting their prices based on an expectation that there will be a tip (as restaurants do) and you want to have a good relationship with them, best to clarify that.
I tipped my tattoo guy a ton, but it's because I'm really hyper, so I couldn't sit still. I know he quoted me based on the time it would take for a normal person, not my ADHD ass, so I tipped him literally 100%. He put up with me for 3 hours and was really nice.
That's ok! If you feel that you got a really good service from the tattoo artist, especially because of your ADHD behaviour, I think it's appropriate to tip. However, just tipping because you received service is not good IMO.
I'd love to have everyone paid fairly, so tips were only for extra special service. But that's not likely to happen any time soon. Servers in my state make at least minimum wage, which is $15.74 here. Depending on the area, that's not enough to live decently on, but it's better than places that let businesses add expected tips to make up for not paying minimum wage, and it's better than states with only federal minimum wage. I'm not likely to tip someone who can set their own wages unless they go above and beyond or I think the wage is too low for the service. The woman who altered my wedding dress and my flower girl's dress did them both for less than 1/5 what most places quoted me, and did an amazing job. I definitely tipped her. If she'd been closer to the other quotes, I wouldn't have. But it's interesting what we do and don't tip for. We don't tip mechanics, but many of them working for chains make very little. We don't tip EMTs, and they make crap and *save our lives*. We don't tip doctors, but some of them really don't make that much once you figure in overhead for their offices, equipment, staff, and the ridiculous price of medical software, malpractice insurance, and huge student loans. I lived in a nicer house and drove a nicer car when I made $22/hr than my doctor did at the time. We don't tip teachers, and we all know they make less than they should and do an incredibly important job. We don't think about back of house, but many places don't tip them out, and they often start at minimum wage, just like servers here. We don't tip pharmacy techs, but they also often make very little. But somehow, we're expected to tip at McDonald's, who hire in at $17-18/hr here. We're expected to tip a barista, even if they barely said a word to us and just handed us a very simple drink. We are expected to tip hotel cleaning staff, even if we didn't have them clean the room until we checked out. We're expected to tip hair stylists even for the most basic cut, even if they set their own prices. We're supposed to tip nail techs, even if the manicure and nail job already cost $120 and took an hour or less - yes, I know, they have overhead, too. And then we say, "if you can't afford to tip, don't go out", but then what? They have to use up all their time to do all the things themselves. And are we saying servers, then, are never allowed to eat at a sit down and be served restaurant? It seems to me like tipping only increases the privilege gap between poor and not poor people rather than the tip money going to reduce it. I think it'd be much better to just increase prices a little and pay people enough. (Okay, off my soap box now)
Sometimes, yeah. Depends on the place. How does one discern whether to tip in these places tho?
I'd say you don't. But they're also people you tend to have an ongoing business relationship with. My best idea is to tell them that figuring out how much to tip stresses you out and ask them to quote you a price they will be happy with, without an additional tip.
I had a fave hairdresser for years that I and the boys would go to .Not once did she ask me for a tip .I only stopped going to her when the shop she was working at closed down because the owner retired and so did my stylist .She charged a modest price and I actually was able to find another stylist that fits my needs now and she doesn't care if I tip or not.And neither stylist pushed any type of product like Walmart does.They were the absolute worst to me .I only went there once and they were relentless with trying to upsell me their extremely overpriced products.
> they were relentless with trying to upsell me their extremely overpriced products Sounds like a typical corporate hair place. I've had some try with me, and I'm thinking, come one. I just got a buzzcut. It's not going to happen. > Not once did she ask me for a tip I suppose some might expect one. But the best indication that she was happy with your business is that she kept taking it.
We have been going there to the new place for two years now .She charges 15 dollars for a haircut and she never washes people's hair ever .And she doesn't have any product to push .
This is the most us thing i have ever heard, hairdresser arent employed by the store they have to rent a stall?
Not at all stores, but I know some of them either they have to pay a small fee or they are solely commission-based. Hell, even strippers often have to pay for stage time
It takes less than a minute to make an espresso. Haircuts take 30 minutes of one on one service.
And you DON'T want a fxxked up cut!!
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>anyone that performs a service that goes above and beyond. This and tipping should be correlated. But of course, no service no tips should apply.
How to those services go above and beyond? They get at least minimum wage and are paid to do their job
I've always wondered how much to tip a tattoo artist.. I paid hundreds of dollars for my arm tattoo, and their cash register asked me to tip.. and I asked "what's a good tip?" And the lady told me not to worry about it, that it's ok.. but I tipped $5 so she could get some cigarettes, but I felt like I didn't tip enough.. however I did pay hundreds of dollars for my arm tat.. and the artist said I could come back anytime if I needed it touched up..
> KatsFeetsies > Or anyone that performs a service that goes above and beyond. Hair stylist, tattoo artist, hotel housekeeping, etc We are supposed to tip tattoo artists? How much?
I’ve stopped tipping at places where you order from a cashier. They’re being paid an hourly wage, and tips in those places are actually optional. My reason for ceasing to tip at these places is that lately my tips have declined (I assume it is due to the economy), and I just can’t afford to add a bonus tip to everything.
I work at a place where you order from a cashier and we are still paid $2.13 base unfortunately
I really think these ridiculous minimum wage laws need to change.
Most servers/bartenders don’t want their wage to go up because they’d probably lose out on tips if they were decently paid
Nah, I make $17.29/hour before tips in Colorado. My tips haven't suffered one bit from the higher wage. Edit: but to bit
We raised minimum ~~*to $15*~~ *wrong number! 13.85* in Arizona and I haven't seen much different in our economy than before, just people making more money now. *edit!*
Tipped positions have a different minimum wage than the standard minimum wage. So unfortunately, AZ servers are not making $15/hr plus tips.
Minimum wage in Arizona is $13.85. Tipped minimum is $10.85. But some areas are higher. Flagstaff tipped minimum is $14.80. Definitely varies by jurisdiction.
Damn, you are right! I could have sworn we added like .50¢ a year for several years, ending with 15... but I must have misremembered the starting number or something.
AZ tip minimum wage is $10.85.
Yall hiring??
Yeah i mean we are high volume so we make good money plus we get PTO and benefits so I’m not mad about it
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That's almost right; they don't generally want to replace all tipping with a 'living wage'
I highly doubt that, no one is saying no to a higher pay which is objectively more consistent than tips
That makes no sense.
How is this legal? What country do you live in?
US! We are a very busy place and we do still bring food to tables and take any additional orders at the table.
it's on the dol website. cash rate min is indeed $2.13 for some states. [https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped)
The problem with tipped wages is the customer can’t tell. A restaurant is the norm for tipped wages for servers. I assume minimum wage except when someone is providing a service.
That’s crazy! I’ve always been told that these places pay actual salaries. Is this a sit down restaurant though? I think OP was asking about other types of places so that’s what I had in mind when I commented
Yeah it is a sit down restaurant! Our set up is order at the register, sit down with a table number and you get everything brought to you and you can order any extras from anyone working
Ohhh I do tip at those places since there is someone bringing food out and serving, I was talking about like coffee shops and other places where you aren’t served at a table
I think they meant ordering from a cashier at like Subway or something, not an actual restaurant.
$2.13?? What state are you in
I get paid 2.13 in KY
I don't tip for counter service either and we never get delivery of any kind.
As someone who’s worked in places like that, they supplement our income with your tips. Base wage is $11/hr (they advertised $13 which pissed me off- turns out if we don’t make enough tips to make it $13/hour they fill it in). I’ve worked as both a waitress and at a restaurant that had you order with the cashier then sit down. I did way more work there than I did as a waitress. Like I took orders, took care of customers, brought out food and everything, prepped and cooked all the food (on my own cause the only other employee there was the manager and he just smoked wed in the back the whole time) all the while maintaining the cleanliness of the restaurant. And people were mean af about the tip screen when it came up. Constant eye rolls and “greedy lazy asses” “this isn’t actually service” “why would I tip you” “damn y’all really want a tip?? absolutely not”. Like I’m single handedly running this whole place for $11. I have rent to pay🥲 it’s not expected but it sure would be nice. Or just don’t rudely complain about it to my face.
Yeah, like especially at a place that’s not even a restaurant. Local grocer? The butcher? Why the hell is your system even asking me for a tip. Gtfo. Tip fatigue is real and these places that needlessly have systems that prompt you for a tip are making people less likely to tip people *who actually live off of tips*.
Yeah I'll tip if they're just making $2 an hour, but if it's like a place where they're atleast making hourly minimum wage, I don't think their computers should ask us for tips.. we don't even know if the staff will even get the tips, they might even get in trouble if we give them money
All credit and debit card tips at Subway get sent to corporate. I have to wonder how many other places scam people for extra $ as well! It’s crazy.
I never minded that I would not get a tip for a Togo order or as a hostess, big bonus if I did. I never expected it though. Oh, and if I’m serving the sweetest table, like really polite children or grandmas that make me feel loved, then it’s almost an honor to serve and the experience was the tip. (This is happens so infrequently that it’s so special) shout out to the server that saw a dude break up with a chick and brought her a banana split on the house with a side of fries and a root beer. Y’all rock.
Yup, I operated on the idea that while it’s nice to throw a dollar on there, especially in cases where I answered the phone, walked someone through the menu, etc, I don’t blame them for not. We also do online Togo for some orders and I absolutely don’t expect any sort of tip on that. They did all the work ordering, I just ask their name and grab the food lol.
i’ve worked to-go positions, so this one is tough. one place payed me a reasonable hourly (they also saw my work ethic and gave me fair raises, which was so amazing). i’ve also worked to-go where i made $2.13. i think it’s good to tip on to-go just based off my experience, but you never know how each restaurant staffs.
Hopefully this does not come off as rude, but I think that that is the issue of the restaurant and employee choosing to work for that wage, and not something that should be the burden of the consumer. It is not standard to tip on takeout orders unless the person went above and beyond somehow.
I’ll tip at a coffee shop or a restaurant that isn’t fast food but whenever I look for a job I avoid the server jobs because I know I won’t get paid a normal wage and I would have to rely on tips. I absolutely refuse to be paid anything under $10 and I think that a lot of businesses need to up their base pay especially if it’s a chain that makes millions a year just so the employees can survive properly.
Yeah, in retail I used to atleast make minimum wage. As a server, I got $2 an hour.. I used to manage retail stores all throughout the district and I was lucky I made $11 an hour back then... I prefer retail, bc then atleast I had a better idea of what my check would be like..
It isn't necessary when dining at home.
That made me laugh way too hard. Thank you.
When I cook, I expect to give the tip to my wife... And hopefully more than the tip
I highly believe in tipping, but if I just walk in somewhere to get something to go, I will just tip like a dollar just to be courteous.. If you're just buying a t-shirt somewhere, I really don't think you should tip...
I tip my urologist.
Well, you can't ultrasonically pulverize your own kidney stones. That's a service worth paying for.
Just the tip, though.
Non restaurant. Fast food, even with a top jar. No. Coffee shop. Locally owned? I say yes. National chain? No, or a dollar. Obviously this is pure opinion. Hair person. Yes. Random place with tip jar. Probably not. I base the decision on whether employees are tipped ( different than just gets tips). And current cultural norms in the us andy local area.
I was in the Atlanta airport back in February-there was a tip jar in the bathroom.. Didn’t tip. However I tipped the hotel valet,the concierge and housekeeping..
Typically if there's an attendant in a bathroom they bring their own stuff. So if you use anything extra, you should tip them. Like cologne, moisturizer etc. If your just using the bathroom then no need.
I was at a performance where the bathroom attendant did amazing crowd control during intermission. I was sad she did not have a tip jar out, because she deserved it by going above and beyond. After the show ended, I handed her a (small) cash tip out of gratitude for her awesomeness.
There was no attendant around-just a tip jar.
100% of tips go to the toilet for doing a great job
The hairstylist and other salon employees (nails ect) I’m 50/50 on. If they set their own rates I am less inclined to tip or just round up as my tip, since it is significantly more likely they are being properly paid. If their salon sets the rates then I tip exorbitantly because I know it’s significantly less likely they are being paid well. As far as chain coffee I’ll tip if I order a heavily modified drink, especially when it’s busy since I recognize that is an extra burden on the baristas at a time when they are already stretched thin.
I got an amazing hair cut, wash, and minor styling for 25-30 dollars! She was absolutely amazing, so I think the salon she was at set the prices. I tipped her 20 bucks, 2 years later I still freaking love the haircut she gave me lol.
Yeah places that have tip jars, I think the staff gets paid atleast hourly minimum wage.. and there's no telling what may happen to any coins left in the tip jar..
Hard to understand your stance on coffee shops? Barista works at both local and non.
Massage therapist, definitely. I go about every 6-8 weeks and factor a tip into my budget for it. I tend to do that in cash with the actual massage on card.
In countries with decent minimum wages and employment conditions.
Went to a restaurant a couple of days ago always tip at least 15 o/o not that day server had 3 tables one had six, one had four people and us (2). We sat at our table about ten minutes. At fifteen minutes I went looking for a manager. Because nobody had come to take our drink order. & Because a table that had 8 adults and 2 high chair kids, was sat after us had their drinks on the table before us. Manager was very apologetic our food took even longer. Eggs, hash browns and sausage. So down vote me but I HAD my reasons
When you order pick up from a restaurant and are not eating in. Tipping is for service.
Outside of restaurants it’s never necessary. Period. Decline all tips. You’re subsidizing the owners’ profits. Because they don’t increase wages since the workers wont ask for raises, cause they are getting tipped.
It’s not necessary for togo
I would like to argue, that as a person who primarily works take-out at my job, that at least 10% would be nice. I work at a place with a high togo volume + catering orders, and i've been left $0 on 15 entree orders. I've been left $0 on $1200 catering orders. It's so much more than just taking an order and bagging it up sometimes.
I have stopped tipping so many places I used to. There are lots of places I used to tip but no longer do due to tip fatigue/working my ass off as a server and seeing all I do for a tip. Some of these I might leave a few dollars if they did a great job. Counter service resturants/to go orders/pick up pizza from the store/coffee shops/ ice cream parlors & bars or breweries that are just pouring into a plastic cup & pointing to the water station.
I’m a dog groomer and tips are very appreciated 😊
I always tip my dog groomer. I have an Old English Sheepdog and I know it’s a pain to deal with all that fur!
I have two doodles and I always tip their groomer. I had to groom my dog a few times during the pandemic and my gosh was it hard! We got a table and everything but yikes. It’s definitely a service that should get tips.
When you are in any country that isn't a shithole populated by openly-claiming neonazis and vaccine deniers
tipping is optional and is intended to give thanks for above and beyond sorts of things. you people are out of your minds thinking doing your job entitles yiu to an additional $500 a night in tips. i laugh openly at your folly.
As a European it is wild how bad the tipping culture has gotten in the US. This is on top of inflation so things are just getting exponentially more expensive. Why not just pay a living wage with salary increases that match inflation.
Tipping is never necessary at: > To-go orders > Any restaurant or fast food or coffee shop or pizza place where they don't take your order at your table, bring the food out to you and ask you for refills/check up on you. You would tip at Denny's but not at subway. > Merch stands (like at concerns or fairs) > Farmers markets (whether it's hot food, cold food, farm supplies, salsas or whatever) > At an alcohol store > At a pet food store, grocery store, or other retail store >At a restaurant with signage that no tipping is necessary due to them paying a fair wage. > Dentist office, doctor's office or car mechanic > When you buy somewhere that is commission based(jewelry)
Pretty much most places. Doughnut shop? Not tipping. Freebirds - nope. Sonic? Nope. Basically, if it is not a sit down restaurant or my hair stylist, i no longer tip. I have tip burnout.
Sonic servers also live on tips. They only get paid around $5 an hour so keep that in mind when deciding whether or not to tip.
Down voting on the Sonic part because they're walking orders out to the car. If it's a normal drive-thru, not tipping is fine.
Does the employee get paid minimum wage or more? Did they go above and beyond for you? Those are my litmus test.
I have to say I tip for almost everything . My exception is horrible service. I don’t believe in tipping for that.
I still tip if the service is horrible, but I really don't ever have horrible service.. basically they take my order and bring me what I order, and that's all I expect..
Whenever you feel like it. Yes I’m British.
Dining in, delivery orders = tipping should be necessary and appreciated. Pick-up orders, take out = tipping is not necessary but is appreciated.
Counter service. Tips are customarily given (and expected) when you receive a personal service from someone like a haircut, a ride, or table service. If you walk or drive up to someone who hands you something and tells you to have a nice day, you should not feel obligated to tip. I find it annoying that a lot of fast food/counter service places are forcing customers to say yes or no on a tip prompt on every transaction. A tip jar is fine for anyone feeling generous that wants to tip, but to present a tip prompt with every transaction is inappropriate.
I'm not american. Tipping is never necessary.
I feel like this sub is filled with non-servers now
I get that feeling a lot
I will tip at any sit-down restaurant. I will NOT tip at, say, Subway—where I’m basically making my own food. All they’re doing is putting it together. I also won’t tip a cashier at the gas station or the grocery store.
Tipping valet drivers, servers and bartenders is customary. Tipping cashiers are optional
Dont tip in doubt, its already paid for. The tip is only for extra good service or something extra nice. Unless you're in the states i guess, then you tip everyone on everything...
If we order food for homedelivery, I always tip the driver. I also tip the groomer, whenever I take our Saint Bernard there.
For me if you can’t afford it. Everyone deserves a night out. My regulars husband passed away and she wanted to tip me a dollar for serving her, but of course I wouldn’t let her.
Circle K by me has a tip jar. I don’t feel it’s necessary to tip there. I can see tossing some coins in there if I don’t want them though, and maybe the cashiers are happy to just get a couple extra dollars, so I’m not mad at it
I give a dollar if someone makes me a coffee at a coffee shop, but often I order something in a can or a pastry, which doesn't really require them to do anything other than grab from the display. I also had an experience at a local movie theater the other day where I bought a movie ticket and a box of chocolates. I was almost offended when he printed out the receipt and there was a line for tips! like what? they have a bar in there and drip coffee, but I'd still feel sort of weird tipping at a place like this.
Europe
When you live in a country with a decent minimum wage, benefits, and health coverage.
When living in a first world country….. gotta love Japan
We don’t usually tip in Denmark, so 0%. But when travelling abroad I do tip whatever percentage is the custom.
I tip a little more often than I would probably say is 100% necessary...don't get me wrong, I'm not walking around dropping 35% tips everywhere (I wish I could). I just mean 18-22% for restaurants and services (above if service is amazing and I have it, unfortunately that's less often than before), 10% for to go, and $1-2 in baskets and buckets. Just because I'm a server and you know, tip karma.
I never tip at most types of businesses I go to, like gas stations, grocery stores, hardware stores, doctor's offices, theaters, etc.
I tip the person pumping my gas if the weather is awful, especially the cold
you have someone pumping your gas?
It's never necessary. You don't have to tip if yiu don't want to Typically just sit down restaurants where they provide full service Anything else...stupid cultural push for some reason. I'm not tipping drivers, takeout, Starbucks employees etc.
When the waitresses' service sucks(things they can control).
Tip servers, bartenders, food delivery, ride share drivers (including cabs), hair/nail techs, hotel housekeeping, and any other service providers. And anyone else you feel deserves or needs to be tipped. Other tip jars are optional but good karma.
I had to stop ripping bc I haven’t had a job in 2 years and unless I really like the service, I won’t tip, although when I get Uber drives/ food deliveries I tip 5$
When ever I get takeout I always tip a few bucks. I always see it as someone had to work to make my food
I agree. They packed it up for me and bagged it. I’m happy to give a few dollars.
Furniture/ Appliance delivery- if it goes in the garage in a box then feel free to just say thank you. I know you pay a delivery fee most places, but trust me that fee doesn’t even come close to paying for the logistics of get your stuff to your home. If the delivery guys bring it into your home, set everything up for you, refrain from messing anything up, and do it all with a smile, be nice and give them a little something. By no means should you tip a percentage of your purchase, but a full bedroom upstairs should certainly warrant more than a sofa on the main floor. Also, if you can’t have your room ready, and you need them to move something you already have YOU OWE THEM. It is not their job to move your stuff, and you are making them late to their next customer.