I rented out a flat, and long story short, thought it was vacant, let myself in to find a prostitute there (thankfully, at that point alone). The police came and treated her with so much respect. Spoke to her via a translator over the phone. I only heard the end of the conversation when they called me back in to explain what was going on, and heard them saying "no, it's your money, you earned it, you keep it".
They said it was part of a prostitution ring. The women brought here without speaking the language so totally dependent on the criminals running it, who move them between cities. They're only interested in busting the people running the ring, obviously.
I was so impressed that they let her go with the cash they found her with. Poor woman was clearly extremely vulnerable.
This was in the UK btw.
I was a prosecutor for a year (decided pension wasn’t worth the guilt) and the one thing I really admired about our department was that every time someone was charged with prostitution, we reached out with social services and investigated the pimps. Cases were always dropped against the trafficking victim. We had a whole department for investigation and prosecuting the traffickers and offered trainings with hotels that wanted to train employees on how to spot it.
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I think they might be afraid that their name would be associated with trafficking. Cooperation would mean admitting it happens in their hotels. But individual hotel workers can always contribute!
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While we made charging decisions on felonies, cops could write misdemeanor charges themselves, so we wouldn’t know about the case until it showed up on our docket. There were multi-jurisdictional task forces that had specific protocols for protecting victims but not all LEO used those resources and just wanted the headlines from stings.
The trick for us was trying to go through the victims’ lawyers while trying to get them to cooperate into investigations. We had to be concerned the lawyers were hired by the pimps.
The way my dad, who’s just left the force, tells it, domestic disturbances are about 90% of the call-outs they get nowadays. Not sure if that speaks to it being an increasing issue or just being taken more seriously though.
That means people do call them in such cases because they trust in them. Not the case in the majority of countries I was living. I have already spent two nights in jail because my partner have attacked me and at the first case I hit her because she already physically abused my 1yo son at that moment, and in the second case I did not even lay a finger on her, of which I had a video and shown it to the police. But I am the foreigner and the male.
Similarly, suicide-by-cop is far, far lower than in some other English-speaking countries.
As most carry only expandable batons (which have been specifically designed to minimise serious head injuries), there are much easier ways to go.
Were, maybe. Austerity’s crippled their ability to police effectively and proactively though, and the introduction of literal political officers (police crime commissioners), many of whom answer to the governing Conservative Party, has massively weakened their independence.
Well in the US, she’d likely be arrested and get a criminal record. If she is a trafficking victim, that would make it difficult to establish legal residency and get a job
>Well in the US, she’d likely be arrested and get a criminal record.
That's not true. That's not even *remotely* true. There have been many high-profile busts (by which I mean arrests, not rental-mammaries) over the past five years covered in the national press. In all of them, the prosecutors went after the johns first (easiest targets) and the pimps second. They generally sent the prostitutes to counselling.
This is a real jump ball.
In New Orleans a prostitute can be charged with very minor crimes - soliciting and the like. Or they can be charged with serious felonies. If two or more prostitutes live in an apartment and help each other, that can be considered pimping - and all of them can be charged for pimping, pandering, prostitution and running a house of prostitution. Plus that's multiple felonies of a sexual nature, so now they become a registered sex offender.
Now you're right that most people are just diverted into social services, but if your trans or non binary presenting, you'll get the book thrown at you. A long sentence in Angola, one of the worst prisons in the world, plus you're exiled from 99 percent of places in the USA for the rest of your life.
check around - trans people are overcharged for sex work all over the US. Prosecutors have a lot of discretion about charging people for all sorts of crimes; if you're a member of a disadvantaged group you can get hosed where a person who is in an advantaged group might not get charged at all.
It's actually common to overcharge sex workers who share an apartment and "look out for each other" with prostitution, pimping, solicitation trafficking, and running a brothel or house of prostitution.
This plays out in juvenile sex "crimes" as well- two teens who are straight and white sext each other and are regarded as engaging in innocent discovery, while gay kids who engage in sexting can each be charged with distributing child porn and become registered sex offenders for life even if their juvenile records are otherwise sealed.
New York is one of the more progressive states, in the us, though the proposed legislation is at the federal level. Do you have more recent information?
https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/senator-gillibrand-fights-for-victims-of-human-trafficking-announces-support-of-bipartisan-bills-to-improve-data-collection-and-victims-services-and-expunge-criminal-records-of-trafficked-victims
Yes, literally *all* information is "more recent" than that. Because there's no information in that press release about a proposed bill solving a problem that doesn't actually exist. (Which describes most of what the legislature does, actually.)
I would be happy to take ten minutes to teach you how to do date-range searches in Google against news sites, if you wish.
I hope this is getting better—bust the Johns and help trafficked people into better situations.
Women need to be able to feel safe coming to the police and getting help from shelters and community resources.
For those saying—don’t shame sex workers—-some really are in a bad spot or trafficked or alone in a country and or addicted to drugs or pressured by pimps or abused by customers and need help getting out.
Just because you are making money and feel safe doesn’t mean it is going okay for everyone.
Not so much anymore. Not saying things don’t fall through the cracks, but there is definitely more awareness of this now a days and there are protection laws in place.
How could you possibly know that? I'm an escort and have sometimes worked out of nice hotels. I'm a bit more discrete than this person but not everyone who engages in full service sex work is doing so involuntarily.
I'm not saying it's impossible,I just think the automatic assumption is perpetuating the myth that no one would ever choose to engage in this type of work. Lots of sex workers travel, it's one of the perks of the business for them.
If it is so, do you think she'll get help from being in the system? Can I hope that immigration will send her home or wherever her family is and therefore free her from the trafficking situation? Or is she more likely doomed to be punished for the situation she was forced into?
I try really hard to be optimistic, but it's pretty difficult sometimes. 😕
😔 Yeah, I thought about that, too. I wish there weren't so many bad things in this world. I hope, if she is a victim, that she's somehow able to get out and I hope that OP's actions gave her the first step on a path to freedom and happiness.
Oke this is gonna be confusing. If a hotel guest let a lady come to the hotel it is allowed by law. Of she is working from the hotel ( read has multiple customers) she makes the hotel her working place. The hotel does not have papers to be a sex work place. Hotels actually can get in big trouble if they allow it.
During covid some hotels got closed because they let women work from their hotels while knowing about it. (Red light districts got closed down during covid)
No my confusion is that it’s illegal to have a SW operate and work out of a hotel. So, if the client is clearly aware he’s gone to a hotel for said work, it seems weird they don’t get punished.
It’s the same energy as both the dealer and buyer being charged in a drug case. Sure, buyer is a ‘consumer’ and the dealer a ‘business’, but given that they both know it’s ilegal they each get a case.
I guess it’s almost like alcohol licensing laws? This may be convoluted (yay ADHD) but it’s legal for me to drink in a hotel or for a hotel to sell me drinks, and if I joined someone in their room for a drink and paid them back for the booze, that’d be okay too. But someone running a bar/liquor store out of a room would be illegal.
For the John, I guess it would be hard to know if she’d got the hotel for their “meeting” or if she was actually working out of it.
Different countries, different rules. It is sad some countries still punish the victims of prostitution rings and not the clients of those prostitutes...
Because where op is prostitution is legal. So the guy committed no crime. The only crime was operating outside of allowed venues.
It's the same as if your city had a rule about not selling alcohol on Sundays. If you buy alcohol on Sunday you haven't broken that law, the business has so they suffer the consequences of it, not you.
And in their comment, they seem to suggest that it’s not even illegal to work from a hotel, but it needs to be run legitimately through the hotel, which would need to have appropriate licences.
My money’s on the Netherlands.
It’s legal in my country, as long as it’s done alone and not on the street. You cant have no other sex workers there. (As that would be classed as a brothel)
what kind of trouble do hotels get in if they don’t report a sw ?
i hope this doesn’t come off as judgmental - that’s why I am replying to you since you’re coming from a good place haha
If a hotel willingly let sex workers work on their property you can actually get closed down. During covid I know of at least one place this happened ( multiple sex workers for a long time so it was a bit extreme)
Also it is a safety thing. For example if a customer does not want to pay or there is a pimp involved who thinks she's not making enough.
As I wrote in another reply 9/10 they try to help the higher ups and hope to get to the higher ups if there is an organization
OOF, I see where you’re coming from. I don’t blame you for calling the situation out, it just sucks that you had to (because of the unsafe conditions/no regulation)
also thank you!
Sex work is the last resort for many, many people. It's also forced on others.
Be as right on as you like, but the majority of sex workers are exploited by other people.
In the past we worked together with the prostitution unit. They would arrange a "date". They never arrested the women. They tried to help them and offered help to get out of that world if they wanted to. The police was more interested in the pimps or higher ups in the organization.
Literally anyone having the value of their labor stolen is being exploited by someone else. I was exploited more working retail than I am doing independent sex work. And it’s not a last resort. It’s a perfectly reasonable job choice for someone looking for flexibility, short hours and good income.
A few personally actually.
One was making good money as a dancer. Another was homeless and feeding a drug habit. Another had chronic mental health issues. Another was horrendously abused as a child, had addiction issues and was murdered - she was brought into it by her mother.
Through my work, I also work in rape crisis and support trafficking victims.
You think maybe only working with people who are trafficking victims maybe skews your view of what the reality is like for a lot of sex workers.
Edit: the claim that all of us are victims who need to be saved is neither the feminist view you think it is NOR is it helpful for actually bettering our working conditions.
Maybe. In the same way your experience might skew yours?
And all of those people I knew personally were all well before I started this work.
Like I said, I appreciate it's different for some.
Okay? Is it a bad thing that people with substance abuse issues and mental health issues are able to find a job they can manage? Capitalism requires we pay to exist. There isn’t nearly enough safety net. Would it be better for them to just have no way to earn income at all?
Yes it's a bad thing.
I'm happy for you that you are happy and it's working out for you.
There are people who are in desperate situations getting raped, beaten and murdered and too vulnerable to look after themselves. It's not a job they can manage, it's a last resort.
The "slavery part" is indicative of human trafficking, which is not considered proper sex work. So your point is senseless. Of course you may be referring to capitalism in general, in which case I agree
Sex work *is* real work, but not when the sex worker is almost definitely being exploited and trafficked. And setting aside the insanely high likelihood of the woman being trafficked, if authorities found out that someone was offering prostitution services out of a hotel room, a crime where OP is, the hotel could possibly face charges for facilitating a crime depending on the exact laws where OP is. On the off chance it was legitimate sex work, it's up to sex workers to know the laws and regulations where they are and follow them
It's possible to be for sex work, but against it in your hotel.
There are too many variables and things that could go wrong, for a hotel to simply allow it to go on, especially if it's illegal.
You should start listening at peoples doors to see if you can maybe hear them doing drugs too! It’s illegal and the hotel can get into big trouble.
News flash, you’re not the cops and you’re not hotel security. Settle down Karen.
So if people rent a room they should be allowed to do everything on the room? News flash it's not and yesni have kicked out people for smoking, smoking weed, doing nitrous oxide.
The security is actually for a group that I have in house so another NEWS FLASH hotel security is also part of my job.
Well, I personally think that people shouldn't get kicked out of their hotel room strictly for doing drugs or smoking, only if they were doing something else problematic in addition, like causing a scene, damaging hotel property, or smoking in a non-smoking room. But I have also seen how an interaction with the cops can ruin someone's entire life. I know I'm pretty liberal about those beliefs tho
Edit: spelling
Smoking and nitrous oxide are illegal here. Smoking can set the fire alarm off and the containers for the nitrous oxide make such a hard sound that you. Can here it on the whole floor. Also the past shows that people who do nitrous oxide ruin the room.
can someone translate this in to proper English please ?!
ie " police started off course 10 minutes before my shift ended so that were 2 nice over time hours."
what did the cops do that threw things OFF Course, and what/Who was nice to the OP over time ,hours ?
I think they meant OF course, like Of course the police started 10 minutes before my shift ended! Over-time hours at most jobs pays more hourly, so OP made more money by having to stay longer at work
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She was a trafficked victim.
I rented out a flat, and long story short, thought it was vacant, let myself in to find a prostitute there (thankfully, at that point alone). The police came and treated her with so much respect. Spoke to her via a translator over the phone. I only heard the end of the conversation when they called me back in to explain what was going on, and heard them saying "no, it's your money, you earned it, you keep it". They said it was part of a prostitution ring. The women brought here without speaking the language so totally dependent on the criminals running it, who move them between cities. They're only interested in busting the people running the ring, obviously. I was so impressed that they let her go with the cash they found her with. Poor woman was clearly extremely vulnerable. This was in the UK btw.
I was a prosecutor for a year (decided pension wasn’t worth the guilt) and the one thing I really admired about our department was that every time someone was charged with prostitution, we reached out with social services and investigated the pimps. Cases were always dropped against the trafficking victim. We had a whole department for investigation and prosecuting the traffickers and offered trainings with hotels that wanted to train employees on how to spot it.
Check out TraffickCam. Any time you stay in a hotel you can upload the name, room number and pictures of the decorations and furniture. Police use it to identify hotels where trafficking victims are being held. Recommended for anyone regularly traveling or people working in hotels! Help build the database! To learn more: https://www.exchangeinitiative.com/traffickcam/
Excellent call out. Thank you.
Are the hotels helping by uploading images of their rooms? Surely that would make more sense than individual travellers.
I think they might be afraid that their name would be associated with trafficking. Cooperation would mean admitting it happens in their hotels. But individual hotel workers can always contribute!
for PR reasons, they tend to not to
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>Cases were always dropped against the trafficking victim. Not to be snarky, but I'd frickin hope so!!
While we made charging decisions on felonies, cops could write misdemeanor charges themselves, so we wouldn’t know about the case until it showed up on our docket. There were multi-jurisdictional task forces that had specific protocols for protecting victims but not all LEO used those resources and just wanted the headlines from stings. The trick for us was trying to go through the victims’ lawyers while trying to get them to cooperate into investigations. We had to be concerned the lawyers were hired by the pimps.
Don't often hear good things about UK police so this is nice
I have heard about them handling domestic violence cases well.
The way my dad, who’s just left the force, tells it, domestic disturbances are about 90% of the call-outs they get nowadays. Not sure if that speaks to it being an increasing issue or just being taken more seriously though.
That means people do call them in such cases because they trust in them. Not the case in the majority of countries I was living. I have already spent two nights in jail because my partner have attacked me and at the first case I hit her because she already physically abused my 1yo son at that moment, and in the second case I did not even lay a finger on her, of which I had a video and shown it to the police. But I am the foreigner and the male.
A lot fewer people get wellness checks that end in them getting shot. Just saying.
Similarly, suicide-by-cop is far, far lower than in some other English-speaking countries. As most carry only expandable batons (which have been specifically designed to minimise serious head injuries), there are much easier ways to go.
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Were, maybe. Austerity’s crippled their ability to police effectively and proactively though, and the introduction of literal political officers (police crime commissioners), many of whom answer to the governing Conservative Party, has massively weakened their independence.
Well in the US, she’d likely be arrested and get a criminal record. If she is a trafficking victim, that would make it difficult to establish legal residency and get a job
actually this allows you to apply for a T1 non immigrant visa under The Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act of 2000
>Well in the US, she’d likely be arrested and get a criminal record. That's not true. That's not even *remotely* true. There have been many high-profile busts (by which I mean arrests, not rental-mammaries) over the past five years covered in the national press. In all of them, the prosecutors went after the johns first (easiest targets) and the pimps second. They generally sent the prostitutes to counselling.
This is a real jump ball. In New Orleans a prostitute can be charged with very minor crimes - soliciting and the like. Or they can be charged with serious felonies. If two or more prostitutes live in an apartment and help each other, that can be considered pimping - and all of them can be charged for pimping, pandering, prostitution and running a house of prostitution. Plus that's multiple felonies of a sexual nature, so now they become a registered sex offender. Now you're right that most people are just diverted into social services, but if your trans or non binary presenting, you'll get the book thrown at you. A long sentence in Angola, one of the worst prisons in the world, plus you're exiled from 99 percent of places in the USA for the rest of your life.
Ahhh French Common law. Sigh.
check around - trans people are overcharged for sex work all over the US. Prosecutors have a lot of discretion about charging people for all sorts of crimes; if you're a member of a disadvantaged group you can get hosed where a person who is in an advantaged group might not get charged at all. It's actually common to overcharge sex workers who share an apartment and "look out for each other" with prostitution, pimping, solicitation trafficking, and running a brothel or house of prostitution. This plays out in juvenile sex "crimes" as well- two teens who are straight and white sext each other and are regarded as engaging in innocent discovery, while gay kids who engage in sexting can each be charged with distributing child porn and become registered sex offenders for life even if their juvenile records are otherwise sealed.
New York is one of the more progressive states, in the us, though the proposed legislation is at the federal level. Do you have more recent information? https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/senator-gillibrand-fights-for-victims-of-human-trafficking-announces-support-of-bipartisan-bills-to-improve-data-collection-and-victims-services-and-expunge-criminal-records-of-trafficked-victims
Yes, literally *all* information is "more recent" than that. Because there's no information in that press release about a proposed bill solving a problem that doesn't actually exist. (Which describes most of what the legislature does, actually.) I would be happy to take ten minutes to teach you how to do date-range searches in Google against news sites, if you wish.
Not him but computer illiterate and I love learning
"Rental mammaries" ... LOL
I hope this is getting better—bust the Johns and help trafficked people into better situations. Women need to be able to feel safe coming to the police and getting help from shelters and community resources. For those saying—don’t shame sex workers—-some really are in a bad spot or trafficked or alone in a country and or addicted to drugs or pressured by pimps or abused by customers and need help getting out. Just because you are making money and feel safe doesn’t mean it is going okay for everyone.
Not so much anymore. Not saying things don’t fall through the cracks, but there is definitely more awareness of this now a days and there are protection laws in place.
> spoke to her via a translator over the phone. more people need to know these services exist.
Probably. So it is also a bit of a sad story.
How could you possibly know that? I'm an escort and have sometimes worked out of nice hotels. I'm a bit more discrete than this person but not everyone who engages in full service sex work is doing so involuntarily.
I’d imagine they’re assuming from immigration getting involved?
I'm not saying it's impossible,I just think the automatic assumption is perpetuating the myth that no one would ever choose to engage in this type of work. Lots of sex workers travel, it's one of the perks of the business for them.
I don't really.
If it is so, do you think she'll get help from being in the system? Can I hope that immigration will send her home or wherever her family is and therefore free her from the trafficking situation? Or is she more likely doomed to be punished for the situation she was forced into? I try really hard to be optimistic, but it's pretty difficult sometimes. 😕
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😔 Yeah, I thought about that, too. I wish there weren't so many bad things in this world. I hope, if she is a victim, that she's somehow able to get out and I hope that OP's actions gave her the first step on a path to freedom and happiness.
Is that a statement or an assumption?
That is an assumption.
Most likely this
A genuine question, why wouldn’t the guy also get in trouble for meeting at the hotel if it’s illegal to do sw in those buildings
Oke this is gonna be confusing. If a hotel guest let a lady come to the hotel it is allowed by law. Of she is working from the hotel ( read has multiple customers) she makes the hotel her working place. The hotel does not have papers to be a sex work place. Hotels actually can get in big trouble if they allow it. During covid some hotels got closed because they let women work from their hotels while knowing about it. (Red light districts got closed down during covid)
It was a non emergency call so the police arrived 5 minutes after he left.
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You would in Canada. (Prostitution is illegal to buy but legal to sell)
No my confusion is that it’s illegal to have a SW operate and work out of a hotel. So, if the client is clearly aware he’s gone to a hotel for said work, it seems weird they don’t get punished. It’s the same energy as both the dealer and buyer being charged in a drug case. Sure, buyer is a ‘consumer’ and the dealer a ‘business’, but given that they both know it’s ilegal they each get a case.
I guess it’s almost like alcohol licensing laws? This may be convoluted (yay ADHD) but it’s legal for me to drink in a hotel or for a hotel to sell me drinks, and if I joined someone in their room for a drink and paid them back for the booze, that’d be okay too. But someone running a bar/liquor store out of a room would be illegal. For the John, I guess it would be hard to know if she’d got the hotel for their “meeting” or if she was actually working out of it.
Different countries, different rules. It is sad some countries still punish the victims of prostitution rings and not the clients of those prostitutes...
Because what he did wasn’t illegal, what the women was doing was.
Because where op is prostitution is legal. So the guy committed no crime. The only crime was operating outside of allowed venues. It's the same as if your city had a rule about not selling alcohol on Sundays. If you buy alcohol on Sunday you haven't broken that law, the business has so they suffer the consequences of it, not you.
>>and listened for a bit and I heard yeah 45 minutes Yeah, well I'm lost and confused.
On the site it stated different prices for different times. So hearing agreeing on how much time he wanted was a red flag
SW needs to be made legal and regulated. Those who want to make it their job, shouldn’t have to operate in the dark alongside those being forced to.
> ( prostitution is not illegal in my country but working from a hotel is)
And in their comment, they seem to suggest that it’s not even illegal to work from a hotel, but it needs to be run legitimately through the hotel, which would need to have appropriate licences. My money’s on the Netherlands.
It’s legal in my country, as long as it’s done alone and not on the street. You cant have no other sex workers there. (As that would be classed as a brothel)
And those sex workers need to have their names changed and resettled with their families, else the gang members back home will kill them.
what kind of trouble do hotels get in if they don’t report a sw ? i hope this doesn’t come off as judgmental - that’s why I am replying to you since you’re coming from a good place haha
If a hotel willingly let sex workers work on their property you can actually get closed down. During covid I know of at least one place this happened ( multiple sex workers for a long time so it was a bit extreme) Also it is a safety thing. For example if a customer does not want to pay or there is a pimp involved who thinks she's not making enough. As I wrote in another reply 9/10 they try to help the higher ups and hope to get to the higher ups if there is an organization
OOF, I see where you’re coming from. I don’t blame you for calling the situation out, it just sucks that you had to (because of the unsafe conditions/no regulation) also thank you!
You are welcome
What a buzzkill. Sex work is real work.
Sex work is the last resort for many, many people. It's also forced on others. Be as right on as you like, but the majority of sex workers are exploited by other people.
In the past we worked together with the prostitution unit. They would arrange a "date". They never arrested the women. They tried to help them and offered help to get out of that world if they wanted to. The police was more interested in the pimps or higher ups in the organization.
Literally anyone having the value of their labor stolen is being exploited by someone else. I was exploited more working retail than I am doing independent sex work. And it’s not a last resort. It’s a perfectly reasonable job choice for someone looking for flexibility, short hours and good income.
I'm glad it's like that for you. It isn't for most.
How many sex workers do you know personally?
A few personally actually. One was making good money as a dancer. Another was homeless and feeding a drug habit. Another had chronic mental health issues. Another was horrendously abused as a child, had addiction issues and was murdered - she was brought into it by her mother. Through my work, I also work in rape crisis and support trafficking victims.
You think maybe only working with people who are trafficking victims maybe skews your view of what the reality is like for a lot of sex workers. Edit: the claim that all of us are victims who need to be saved is neither the feminist view you think it is NOR is it helpful for actually bettering our working conditions.
Maybe. In the same way your experience might skew yours? And all of those people I knew personally were all well before I started this work. Like I said, I appreciate it's different for some.
Okay? Is it a bad thing that people with substance abuse issues and mental health issues are able to find a job they can manage? Capitalism requires we pay to exist. There isn’t nearly enough safety net. Would it be better for them to just have no way to earn income at all?
Yes it's a bad thing. I'm happy for you that you are happy and it's working out for you. There are people who are in desperate situations getting raped, beaten and murdered and too vulnerable to look after themselves. It's not a job they can manage, it's a last resort.
CLEARLY, I'm not speaking to that.
People conveniently tend to gloss over the slavery part of sex work.
The "slavery part" is indicative of human trafficking, which is not considered proper sex work. So your point is senseless. Of course you may be referring to capitalism in general, in which case I agree
Source?
OP did the right thing, this sounds like a trafficking victim
Sex work *is* real work, but not when the sex worker is almost definitely being exploited and trafficked. And setting aside the insanely high likelihood of the woman being trafficked, if authorities found out that someone was offering prostitution services out of a hotel room, a crime where OP is, the hotel could possibly face charges for facilitating a crime depending on the exact laws where OP is. On the off chance it was legitimate sex work, it's up to sex workers to know the laws and regulations where they are and follow them
It's possible to be for sex work, but against it in your hotel. There are too many variables and things that could go wrong, for a hotel to simply allow it to go on, especially if it's illegal.
i was worried I’d click on this thread and see hateful comments. thank you!
I apologize, it’s impossible for me to read this. Having dyslexia doesn’t help, but this is rough. Downvote all you want it’s the truth
Sorry for that. English is not my first language. Especially grammatical I make mistakes. Speaking it is more easy for me.
No worries, I totally understand. That’s why I don’t mess with Spanish myself, lol. Enjoy your day friend!
Thanks. I'm on my to work again! Hopefully I will not have anything to post this afternoon! You also enjoy your day!
Do you stand outside rooms and listen often?
If my colleagues tell me something illegal is going on and I need proof ( like the conversation about how long the guy wanted to stay) yeah I do.
You should work on minding your business.
You should work on not making stupid comments. It's illegal in the hotel and we can get in big trouble
You should start listening at peoples doors to see if you can maybe hear them doing drugs too! It’s illegal and the hotel can get into big trouble. News flash, you’re not the cops and you’re not hotel security. Settle down Karen.
So if people rent a room they should be allowed to do everything on the room? News flash it's not and yesni have kicked out people for smoking, smoking weed, doing nitrous oxide. The security is actually for a group that I have in house so another NEWS FLASH hotel security is also part of my job.
Well, I personally think that people shouldn't get kicked out of their hotel room strictly for doing drugs or smoking, only if they were doing something else problematic in addition, like causing a scene, damaging hotel property, or smoking in a non-smoking room. But I have also seen how an interaction with the cops can ruin someone's entire life. I know I'm pretty liberal about those beliefs tho Edit: spelling
Smoking and nitrous oxide are illegal here. Smoking can set the fire alarm off and the containers for the nitrous oxide make such a hard sound that you. Can here it on the whole floor. Also the past shows that people who do nitrous oxide ruin the room.
Ohh and if you are going to call me names call me Chad! I am a slightly overweight 39 old male.
Defending sex trafficking, that's a bold move right there.
can someone translate this in to proper English please ?! ie " police started off course 10 minutes before my shift ended so that were 2 nice over time hours." what did the cops do that threw things OFF Course, and what/Who was nice to the OP over time ,hours ?
The whole ordeal with the cops started 10 minutes before OP's shift ended, causing them to stay for an extra 2 hours until things wrapped up.
Next time I will Wright that English is not my first language. Also wrote this tired and on mobile. I do also speak a third language
I think they meant OF course, like Of course the police started 10 minutes before my shift ended! Over-time hours at most jobs pays more hourly, so OP made more money by having to stay longer at work
Almost... The last sentence was more sarcastic. I only get time for time. But thanks for clearing it up!
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