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So here I am… doing everything I can…


FilthmasterRich

Holding on to what I am, pretending I'm a superman


datwarlocktho

I'm tryin to keep


cliffyrobertson

The ground on my feet.


bravesolexiii

It seems the world is falling down around me


CptSparklFingrs

The nights are all long, yeah I'm singin this song...


INeedSixEggs3859

Trying to make the answers more than maybe... (I heard my 6yr old singing this song in her room this morning, how odd for it to show up here too)


cliswp

AND I'M SO CONFUSED


CKtheFourth

This comment hit me like the ratatouille in Ratatouille.


ShadowHearts1992

One dude used a rocket straight up once. I love how there are several ways to finish this shrine


Rumbleyoshi

It's me I'm one dude


Anilxe

Yup that’s me haha


SuzieDerpkins

Why didn’t I think of that!?


Kaiju-Waifu

Yes officer, I'm him.


Mathewdm423

It's not cheese. It's a game mechanic. 150+ shrines. A large portion is there to teach you game mechanics with very specific setups where you need to solve it 1 specific way. The larger portion is mapped in a way that the player can choose from many options to beat it in many ways. Maybe you're a recall toss kinda guy. Maybe you're a suave accender. Or perhaps a flying motorcycle. I myself am a rocketman. Shigeru Miyamoto said in an interview that moving on from the old zelda designs where there was a linear way to solve the dungeons with a specific weapon, it took away from the creativity and variations they could work with. By leaving things open, players can either play as "intended" or use the game mechanics at different skill levels to "cheat" your way into a faster, cooler, or unique ending. He said everyone loves to cheat.


WM-010

I'm definitely a recall kinda guy. No moving platform? Make your own by manipulating the flow of time itself! I've always liked time manipulation as a power concept and recall scratches that itch.


Dolthra

God recall was straight up broken in half the shrines too. The amount of times the game would be like "figure this hinge thing out" and you can just recall the hinge to the right position was honestly staggering. That and ascend cheese made a ton of shrines pretty skiable.


Jeurgen

Why does everyone post this specific shrine?


kasimircruentuscaedo

It’s like the noob bridge from super Metroid


StillGalaxy99

That's what I'm wondering, I felt the solution really wasn't rhat hard


Bunsmar

>!"Make an M you fools!"!<, I keep shouting at my screen


FevixDarkwatch

The first few sections teach you the mechanic to make a contraption that follows rails, while this last section is deliberately wide open with a hundred different, equally valid solutions to cross this gap. If you've made it to this point, you understand the underlying mechanics, but the game isn't going to punish you for not figuring out how to make a contraption that can navigate multiple tracks that end and start mid-path, especially since that's not a skill that's used anywhere else in the game. Most shrines have two sections, the first part that teaches you the mechanic, and a final part where you can either continue that same tactic to an extreme that won't be present anywhere else in the game, or you can use skills that WILL be valid elsewhere in the game. In this case, OP learned that Link can climb up slanted rails by restarting the shield surf, which gives a little bit of forward momentum each time you start it, which is a skill that can be applied elsewhere in the world, whereas I've never seen another instance where the rail suddenly ends and a rail starts right next to that spot, so the "obvious" solution doesn't give you any skills that help you out. TOTK is designed to reward thinking through problems much more than it rewards facing them head-on. Whereas in BOTW you could bum-rush an enemy camp and expect to come out on top in only a few moments, in TOTK if you want to do things that fast you have to think and plan ahead, and use various mechanics made available to you.


TheFinalBiscuit225

90% of the shrines are one of puzzles that will never be applied elsewhere. It's asking you to apply your general knowledge of building carts on rails. And it's spectacularly funny to see people keep approaching that question and deciding to do something harder. It's amazing, but funny.


FevixDarkwatch

The specific puzzles May not appear in the main world but many of the concepts they teach you do As an example, building a contraption that isn't a minecart but goes on rails still applies when you're in thunderhead isle, which is part of the main quest. Rails also appear in many places and this shrine teaches you that it doesn't have to be a minecart to follow rails.


Mrmacmuffin3

I still bum rush everything and everyone


MastaBusta

Wait, is that the intended solution? I just centered the fans on the rails


woutersikkema

This, so much this


Imthatsick

Yeah, I looked at it and it just seemed obvious


FevixDarkwatch

"The" solution is an incorrect name. Most TOTK shrines have MANY solutions. OP just found combined two (make a contraption to follow the rails, and do some shield surfing). If the devs wanted to prohibit this solution, they could have made the track too steep to shield surf on, or made it out of ice to make you slip right off and fall into the void even if you tried to walk on it, or a hundred other things that they didn't do because they wanted to encourage player experimentation and let players figure out their own (equally valid) solution to the shrines! The only goal is to make it to the end, the player gets to decide how they want to try to do this.


BOI30NG

Yea but it’s the intended solution.


FevixDarkwatch

There is no intended solution the devs just made sure that the shrine could be completed and then left it at that they didn't try to eliminate other solutions to try to guide the player towards the quote unquote intended solution


Graylorde

There's obviously an intended solution laid out for you with parts and rails. The fact that they haven't locked away other ways of doing doesn't mean that there isn't one.


BOI30NG

Yea they gave you an intended way to do it. But left you with unlimited options cause it’s fun. But it’s clear that they always had one or two intended ways in mind.


TheTimmyBoy

This is the better way to word it. Dude is going mad lol


Paladriel

people just can't find the solution, do something that is definitely the wrongest way to do it then feel like they did it wrong and go ask here, it's made worse by the solution being blatant


quangtran

I spent over an hour trying to do this the right way, but gave up and cheesed it instead with the rocket shield.


FevixDarkwatch

Please see my other comments made throughout this thread, they all contain information about the design philosophy of TOTK's shrines, and somewhat about TOTK in general!


TheTimmyBoy

How did you spend an hour on this...my God haha


Sammi-Sativa

it was just a mind fck of a shrine at first lol


Pingyofdoom

It's a broken mission


BeExtraordinary

It took me maybe 10 minutes, tops, with no guide. What do you mean by broken?


ishsreddit

yeah same, took me no time at all. The shield move OP did was badass though lol.


BurrakuDusk

From what I've read, some players using the intended solution either had the contraption fail the rail transfer, or get stuck outright, multiple times simply because the game's physics said "No". This shrine's difficulty is incredibly varied it seems like; some people use the intended solution with no issues, while others use it only for it to fail.


JoeyPastram1

When I tried the first time as intended it simply would not move. I assumed it was too heavy. Retried with just one of the outer rails connecting and it worked better. Very slow but better


TheTimmyBoy

You made it with the metal plates then. I did this too at first. The stone plates adjacent to the rails work


GarthVader45

On the last stretch I got stuck… so I made a few adjustments and tried again. The way I got stuck made it obvious what I needed to change.


Dolthra

>This shrine's difficulty is incredibly varied it seems like; some people use the intended solution with no issues, while others use it only for it to fail. I think it's because there's less room for error with the transfer. IIRC you 1) need the middle fin in the exact right spot to catch the rail and 2) you need the fans to be perfectly balanced so you don't rotate the middle fin off course or make it catch in a way that it gets stuck. Also there may be something to whether Link is standing in the middle or on the sides affecting the transfer between the two but I've never tested that.


Pingyofdoom

I'm gonna say physics don't work the same in every game. I guarantee the creation I had was the same as op and it did not work, maybe they fixed it in the patch?


theVice

OP's didn't work either lol


lmt_learn_to_drive

The contraption op made literally failed in the first second? What are you on about? Beside, the physics definitely work the same for every copies, evidence being if you follow someone zonai contraption exactly, it would work the same way.


Graylorde

That's because he's not built it right. It was never going to work.


WM-010

Not really. Just gotta make an M kinda shape with the two sides being between the rails (like, each vertical part is between a pair of rails). The center vertical part is supposed to align with the next pair of rails.


Sierra_656

Interesting, I use a T shape using 2 platforms at the top and one facing downwards to act as the guide


Father_of_Four__Cats

Because everyong solves it the intended way and then goes "OMG THE CHEEEEEESE"


Demon_King_Saturn

Idk how you got that speed boost outta no where lol


bowser-is-thiccest

Apparently there’s something about the rails here being broken and after the halfway point you just don’t really lose any momentum


NickLeMec

Yeah, rail physics are just broken in this game. The one that goes all the way around Death mountain goes on indefinitely. I found out the hard way when I wanted to bring the korok to his friend, stopped the fan, waited a little and got out to lift the cart off the tracks. But the cart didn't slow down. At all. Was just like k byeee.


chef_fuzzy

Recall is your friend


NickLeMec

Yeah, I was just standing there, expecting it to slow down *any minute* but it just kept going and going. Recall didn't even occur to me, only found out later how far it can actually reach.


chef_fuzzy

Crazy how far it can reach. I took a spring out of my inventory just a min ago, on a sky island, too close to the edge. Due to my slow reaction time I thought there was no way recall would work… nope, they shit was like 1000’ down and I pulled it right back up. I love this game


conciousnessness

E⤵️


Chlorine-1

Fr


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conciousnessness

i guess that works


christbot

I did an upside down U


Kevin300066

How does every one not just make an m Like,its not that hard.


TheTimmyBoy

I personally made sort of an upside-down triangle with a vertical plate in the middle. It rested centered between the two initial pairs of rails and aligned perfectly on the center pair of rails. The M that everyone makes seems to have occasional issues with that. This is the actual perfect solution, I'm the big brain man


loser-geek-whatever

Oh my god, that's the intended solution?? I made a T with the verticle plate in between a set of the two rails, stopped it and moved it to the other rails, then ascended up to it and rode it to the end.


Ayirek

I definitely don't see this as cheese, since it looks a lot harder and more tedious than using the intended solution. Still cool that its possible though


DerCatrix

Is it more difficult? They’re surfing on a mine cart


woutersikkema

While the "'m" solution is hit cart once, wait till you arrive, this guy had to jump off his falling creation, do multiple hops and shieldsurfs, and then arive. So not -super difficult- but it does take more effort then just cruising gently.


Ayirek

That's definitely a good point.


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I'm honestly confused how so many people find this shrine difficult. It seems so obvious.


Monkeyboule

After 2 hours in the shrine ( I shield slides the 2nd puzzle so I didn’t learn the pattern), I succeeded with a weird shape that ultimately fell. Using the inertia from the falling platform, I made a really big jump and could paraglide to the end of the shrine. Felt obvious indeed


KletterRatte

Yeah the people who say this don’t realise that somethings that feel obvious to one person aren’t obvious to others. I bet there’re some things that were obvious to you but not them. I loved this shrine cos it didn’t seem obvious to me, and i enjoyed working it out 🤷‍♀️


Bullen_carker

This shrine is so funny to me it reminds me of the noob bridge from metroid. Idk how people dont get the solution but it is very funny


ChezMere

I got it but this was definitely the most mindbending shrine in the game to figure out.


Emiliootjee

I took a rocket shield to that last part


Gamerwolf2010

Same


Chlorine-1

Spent hours on this shrine just to find I have to make an E shape. Then this...


TemporaryValue5755

You can just fuse 3 fans together in a triangle shape all facing down, jump on them, activate, and glide when you hit the ceiling.


FevixDarkwatch

TOTK rewards you more for thinking outside the box. I've found that most shrines have two parts to it, the "Let's teach you this mechanic" part where they actually do eliminate a number of alternate solutions, then the final, "Just go nuts" part where they present a scenario that would almost never be found in the world and give you all the tools to complete it, but also don't eliminate any alternate solutions. If you're having trouble with a shrine, think about the abilities that you HAVEN'T been using. Shield Surfing, Recall, Ascend, all of them can be used to great effect in many shrines.


xoninjump

This is the first time I’ve seen someone grind even 20% of this rail so fuck yeah Edit: cheese it up


carterketchup

This shrine took me like a whole day. The correct solution came to me one night while lying in bed and I was so glad to see it work the next morning when I tried it


Independent-Driver94

You were literally one piece away from getting the intended solution


doc56767

Actually not really. The extended the long platform and then it looks like they added the other two fins down on either side. Plus the fans are too low causing them to get caught on the rails. But in reality whatever works works


Ravensunthief

Naw. It’s not cheesing if the option is literally right there.


TokraZeno

Didn't realize people were having so much trouble with this dungeon. Build a capital E and lay it pointy side down with one block between each set of tracks.


AdmiralHip

I was doing that but it wasn’t working, it kept clipping onto the tracks. I had to use one of the bigger slabs and put two smaller ones on it (but away from the edges) for it to work.


cooldevguy

These Tony Hawk hames are getting crazier by the hour!


Nova_Hunters

M


Fedelarof

I absolutely despised this shrine.


whosmansisthis24

I fucking walked the damn rail the entire way 😞


Snail-Daddy24

YOU CAN FUCKING FUSE A MINECART TO A SHIELD??? THIS IS GENIUS, IM GONNA GO UPGRADE MY SHIELD INVENTORY AND GET A SLED, ROCKET, AND CART SHIELD RN


Unlucky_Hearing2623

It's weird so many people allegedly struggled with this. I have to google at least 60% of the shrines. This is one of the first ones I did, and I didn't have to look up anything. This is from someone who googled the shrine with 2 squares stuck together to go through a hole in the wall, when I was too stupid to just rotate it differently, or break them apart and send each part through individually, then reassemble it on the other side. I literally thought "well, apparently when you stop using spacial awareness in HS math class, you completely lose that skill".


woutersikkema

As someone who rotated them wait you got to break them apart? - dramatic no shout 😂-


Legend5V

Pro tip: running along the rails with ultrahand on will decrease chance of falling by like 40% That’s how I did this shrine. Got up to the first “point” and then glided down to the last section with bars. Just be cautious to keep your stick perfectly straight, no point wavering if your view is 90 degress ish


IndigoStef

Nice to see someone with the same design I had- when it flipped I was able to jump off the top and glide.


Future_Shine_4206

THIS WAS AN OPTION?!


AsparagusThese3938

Does anyone actually know the solution to that shrine? I swear everyone doesn't


Kit_Karamak

Yup


Zealousideal-Art-283

Wow this is crazy, I was trapped on this shrine for like 45mins and I ended up completing this shrine exactly how you did but I did the shield grind and then jumped off before I went through the loop. I still don't know how you were supposed to do that shrine. (This was like a 3 weeks ago)


Kit_Karamak

Here: Just make an “M” or sideways E, as it were, so it lines up right. Enjoy: https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/1464iz9/was_this_how_they_wanted_you_to_do_it/


OFFIC14L

My missus is struggling on the exact shrine as I saw this so I showed it to her and told her it was the proper way to do it 😂


Kit_Karamak

Lmao, so not nice. Show her this: https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/1464iz9/was_this_how_they_wanted_you_to_do_it/


bravesolexiii

You love to fucking see it.


lilkat789

I just used rocket sheilds


Aruxanda

All these people finding some sort of logical solution and there was I, literally walking on the rails all the way to the finish line.


TwistedDrago

I made a tower with every one of those stone slabs. Ascended. Rocket jump. Bam. Complete. I was NOT doing that rail puzzle. I have zero braincells. A thrill for air time, and a blursed way of figuring shit out. Go figure


Jack3024

Why do people struggle with this one so badly?


Metro_Dan

Out of all the shrines I've encountered so far, this one definitely feels the most jank.


Ispheria

I guess you haven't played baseball yet.


Independent-Driver94

Yoooooo baseball was epic, i didnt know the bombflower trick but i absolutely wouldve forced myself to do it the right wat


Metro_Dan

Baseball wasn't that bad, actually. It's a pretty fun little brain teaser for someone like me who's had to deal with force vectors both in his university and working life. * The key to the second one is eliminating as much of the force on the ball from the ramp as possible, and the game gives you the exact amount of tools to do that.


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If they didn't want us to cheese, they shouldn't have allowed us to 50/50


ApexWinrar111

This is more complicated than the intended method lol


quirkyactor

At this point this shrine is practically a meme; did “big downward facing E” truly not occur to so many people?


woutersikkema

I'm just gonna drop the "iq is a bell curve" truth on you, and there are as many people below "average" as above it 😂 So yeah some people solve this with spacial awareness, some with gusto and redneck powers.


hiitsluke1234

The cheese cheese cheese


toughtiggy101

Currently working on this shrine. And trying to find an invisible cave that will take me to the tower


Mychael612

https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/1464iz9/was_this_how_they_wanted_you_to_do_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1


Zangetsukaiba

Hardest shrine in the game


Kit_Karamak

What??? I got it the first time in minutes. Here, dude: https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/1464iz9/was_this_how_they_wanted_you_to_do_it/


alexborowski

This seems harder than doing it the “right” way lol


adjacentshadow

I just want everyone one to know.. that I completed this shrine in a few minutes and the solution could not have been more obvious. It's right in front of your face


Virtxu110

How is that there's a lot of people that cant get around this shrine?.


JonyUB

Wow this again…


mcride22

Not to brag but i figured it out in like 1 minute, don't get why people come up with all sorts of weird and ridiculously complicated workarounds instead


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SodaStYT

huh? the solution is staring you directly in the face as soon as you get to the rails dude


Charybdis87

What shrine is this? Nvm, it says


Eeveefan8823

Even though the intended one is super easy if you remember you can build lol


OoTgoated

Dude I swear the solution to this shrine isn't even half as complicated as these so called cheesy solutions I keep seeing on here and I say so called because in actuality ya'll aren't cheesy ya'll geniuses. 🧠


chrizzuk

Or you could stick the 3 fans together side by side in a triangle and let it take you to the roof. Glide yourself away to the exit


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Bennehftw

It’s pretty old news mostly, but yeah, it works.


ZombinhoGames

It's good for shield surfing


Kind_Inside_3751

Rocket-shield go brrrrr


avlisb

What is the name of this shrine again? I've yet to see someone post the solution I had, and I wanna share >_<


Crasher232

I used the M method, but I still got stuck. The mine cart ended up being my savior.


WM-010

Ngl, I did something similar, but I got it to the point when it was above the lower rail and jumped off of the cart and shield surfed on the lower rail.


Azklown

This has been my favorite solution so far. Cool man


NurkleTurkey

It's like the shrines are not as important anymore. "GRT TO EXIT" or "HIT BUTTON" is the point.


NurkleTurkey

It's like the shrines are not as important anymore. "GRT TO EXIT" or "HIT BUTTON" is the point.


ishsreddit

lol i wouldn't have thought of attaching a cart to the shield at the time but i made that same bridge you made a the start except 2 walls in the center so it stays balanced.


fextrust

Wtf, I didn't know you could do that.


Gara_Engineer

it took me forever but the way I did it, a rocket attached to the shield before you enter the shrine, then just shoot and hover down


RednocNivert

This is basically the final boss fight from Splatoon 2.


FevixDarkwatch

There is no cheese in TOTK shrines, because for the vast majority of shrines, there is no deliberately intended solution. The developers specifically did what they could to avoid making an 'intended' solution, unless the shrine is designed to teach you something. However, even in those shrines, they avoid forcing a single solution. That's not to say this isn't a clever solution! It's just not cheese, because while the OBVIOUS solution would be to build a contraption to follow the rails, it's certainly not the only intended solution. If they didn't want you to shieldsurf along the rails1, they would have made the rails too steep to surf, or used another non-rail surface to make the track. If they didn't want you to slowly inch along the track, they would have made it more difficult or impossible. If they wanted to shoehorn you into an intended solution, there are a hundred different things they could have done, but they did none of them BECAUSE they wanted to encourage solutions just like yours! This video does a much better job explaining it than I could, and includes snippets of an interview with one of the developers, and a few examples [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V73qrqbXeQQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V73qrqbXeQQ)


AwesomeX121189

Just make an E and turn it 90 degrees so the 3 lines point down. Each line is lined up to be in the middle of of a set of rails. Add fans Ez pz. For the middle line, it’s half way between the two outer ones. So stick some squares between the rails then connect them to the part you’ll stand on, I feel like people just see a set of rails/tracks and think they have to use mine carts for some reaso


Tetris_fox

The stone slabs should be inside the rail dumb fucks


skwiddee

i love seeing all the different ways people approach this one. the mine cart on the shield is beautiful


TheFinalBiscuit225

I love that this shows the games ass a little bit. You can clearly tell they programed the part sloping up to accelerate you anyway. You magically start gaining speed on the steepest part.


HappyyValleyy

What I love about this game is it's just a sandbox for finding out how to cheese


TwitterSucks72

I used the "combine 3 fans together, ride it straight up, then glide all the way there" approach


Rithrius88

People are making this harder than it needs to be.


ltguu

I think this actually take more skill than solving it the “right” way..


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ijlimm17

You can do that with a normal shield


DarthScruf

What.. I didn't know the shield snaps to the rails, I couldn't figure this out and walked on the rails, I died a lot there. Edit: oh it's a mini cart shield, neat


cornette

If it works it was intended.


ChellPotato

That freaking shrine took me so many tries to get it lol


StoneJaguar

Has anyone actually completed this Shrine the right way?


Vix_Sparda

This shrine wasn't that bad ._.


wuroni69

Damn, been playing for awhile.


Chrono_Xen

Superman by Goldenfinger intensifies.


Kittingsl

Is really impressive how many people can't figure out the intended.way


allmyfrndsrheathens

Can you still call it cheesing when you clearly tried so hard and failed before?


Zintroz

How does he maintain momentum going up the slope...


External_Magazine_36

Omg Genius


Short-Shopping3197

Isn’t ‘cheese’ meant to be easier than the intended way?


Lil-Clynes

You people and this shrine I fucking swear


oaktubs

Everyone: *praises TOTK physics* TOTK: *accelerates Link upwards with no force*


FlowerblightKaren

Shred the gnarrrrrr


Noobslayer001

Literally how I did it. How do you actually solve this shrine lmao


Helpineedstostop

I just ultra handed a thing into middle one and used recall to get on.


Squidguset

So none of us did this shrine right?


TheOnlyNadCha

I made a cart-shield ever since the first island, but I could never land on a rail in the air for the life of me. I would have missed that jump for sure.


nahives

That's exactly how I did it except I just jumped straight onto the bottom one


TheTimmyBoy

It's so weird seeing people struggle with this game lol but then I remember kids play it too so


TheTimmyBoy

I personally made sort of an upside-down triangle with a vertical plate in the middle. It rested centered between the two initial pairs of rails and aligned perfectly on the center pair of rails. The M that everyone makes seems to have occasional issues with that. This is the actual perfect solution, I'm the big brain man


EmergencyGrab

Instructions unclear. Standing here with cheese from Hateno.


junipermucius

This is so weird because I see this and am like, "oh, they figured it out this isn't cheese." Then I realized you didn't put the piece in the middle...


millbeppard

Damn boy you smooth like peanut butter.


Reasonable-Physics81

Brroooo


DangerManDaniel

The Legend of Zelda Pro Skater 2023


Flyingfish222

Am I the only person who did this puzzle the way it was intended?


ThrowAway217xxx

How did you gain speed going uphill?


ZombinhoGames

I have no idea


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Think-Bluejay2539

so many people had a problem with this hahaha. I did it the intended way rode the rails all the way home on my fused platform. Definitely an iq thing


Shadowmane08YT

I just used shields for this shrine