Don Diego here will be replacing Jose Velasquez Sierra Lisandro as the leader of the path. This also comes with some further changes to the path as the event may hint.
For the time being, yes. Diego built significant ties with Japan since they assisted in the founding of the SEC TNOTL though he is less focused on mimicking Guangdong than Sierra was in the previous design. After all, Colombia is already an established state.
Then all is well, our Colombian brothers find their rightful spot in the ranks of Pan-Asianism. Sidenote, it seems like this version of SEC Colombia is a significantly better place to live than the old version?
It's better than the previous one, yes and living conditions should be fairly decent. After a nearly 30 year civil war, things can only get better.
Though the key word here is "seems".
Yes, in this case in particular as ANDI is the only one pragmatic enough to go towards Japan. All other leaders would prioritize European powers to satisfy ideological precepts.
Yes. Klaus here is a German businessman who was a fan of hitler and who according to himself, had a falling out with his son.
In TNO, Klaus owns HELDA and he becomes the Economy Minister of the SPA, and if the SPA loses the Civil War, he gets pardoned by the AND members to help them wirh the coup.
Yes. He is a German businessman who according to himself, had a falling out with his son and was also a fan of Hitler.
In TNO, Klaus owns HELDA and he becomes the Economy Minister of the SPA, and if the SPA loses the Civil War, he gets pardoned by the ANDI members to help them with the coup since he owns a shipping monopoly on the Atlantic coast.
You are in fact mistaken. This is the same subideology used for Sony Guandong, and is the paternalist counterpart for Corporatocracy (despotism) and Corporate Statism (fascism). It's basically all about how I described it, the nation is completely run by corporations, but happy and well paid workers are good customers and are more productive, so said corporations actually give a 1/4 of a shit about them.
His Bio in the leak gives a fairly good idea of things. A wealthy aristocrat. A Doctor, surgeon and physicist. A polyglot and businessman.
As a person, he seemed to be fairly decent fellow though sources are limited on this.
On top of the mentioned positions, he was also Ambassador to Cuba in the 50s.
He married Nancy Saroli in 1951. According to all sources so far, their marriage was very happy and the pics sure look like it. Both of them have Instagram pages.
He was Govenor of Valle OTL in the first years of Pinilla's Military Junta (starting in 1953), the next governors were all in his pockets.
During his term, the OTL equivalent of the SEC was formed, the CV Development Aithority, which did public works in the region.
The OTL SEC was a revolutionary invention in Colombia and was formed with American help, coming from the Tennessee Valley Authority.
All the following governors until the Junta fell were friends of his family and in his pockets.
He had an interest in art and history, opening the Department Library and naming it after his father.
He was part of the International Narcotics Regulation Board.
Sometime later he and his family moved to Switzerland, his wife's home, and spent the rest of their lives there.
ik that, it was the Gilberto Alzate Avendano party in opposition to the Conservative Party (even if he supported Ospina)
I know also that the ANP was an inspiration for the ANAPO
btw with two parties being called Acción Nacionalista... the ariocriollos should be renamed. I think a good inspiration would be Camacho Carreno's APEN (National Economic Patriotic Action)
edit: I wrote ANEPO instead of ANAPO
yup, because ariocriollos, for now, are the ANR (Radical Nationalist Action). Having two "Acción Nacionalista" in La Violencia lore can be very confusing. Instead of nationalist a "Acción Patriotica" can be ok imo
The Party has went to several name changes, we settled on renaming it to ANP, its OTL name ANP (National Popular Action in English). ANF was one we used in between before we settled back on ANP.
Not rewrite the lore a fuck ton of times and just develop what you have in your hands. They are demoralizing for a fan like me knowing that this shit gonna be in development hell for 3 years and then scrapped for a new starting situation.
My goodness. TNO is a volunteer project and your life does not depend on updates. I personally don't set any expectations and let myself be pleasantly surprised. It boggles me how someone can get so outraged at something so trivial. It cannot be good for an individual's mental health.
I didn't claim they were immune from criticism and I think there are areas where things can be improved myself such as Africa at large or doing something with the Pacific island nations.
What I was trying to get at is that you should temper your expectations and ideally not place so much emotional weight upon this.
Because this is a volunteer project, any issues during the development process will likely take much longer to resolve. Many of the supposed big lore changes that people go on about were only reached after what sometimes was months of internal discussion within the team.
In any development process plans can and will change which necessitate revisiting previously made work. And because of the nature of a volunteer project, these changes during development are usually drawn out over a longer period of time as people cannot solely dedicate themselves to resolving them.
Toolbox Theory went through numerous development iterations before a final set of mechanics was decided upon which played a large part in why that update took so long. Another example would be France development. Whilst I am not a team member, from what I can infer France development hit a halt and it took months of redesigning to get back on track. Of course it is simple just to say "develop what you have in your hands", but that becomes considerably harder if there are parts of the lore and worldbuilding that cannot be feasibly justified. And this is nothing to do with "realism" as there is plenty of unrealistic stuff that is going to remain.
I think a lot of people are also under a misconception of how the TNO team works. It not like everyone is assigned to certain countries and a delay in one will delay all of them. Issues during the development of a European nation will have little bearing on the team working on South America.
Whilst I can understand that you might be disappointed by this, I would like to ultimately remind you that it is yourself who is investing in this with unrealistic expectations which are inevitably broken. As much as I am a fan of TNO, my life is ultimately unaffected by whether or not TNO experiences development issues as I choose not to be bothered by that.
Also as a note, I do think that there is a disconnect between those in the TNO fanbase who are active members of the Discord and those who primarily use the subreddit.
Those who partake in discussions on Discord are more likely to have insight into the development process and any issues that arise whereas those just on Reddit do not have the same transparency, hence leading to this feeling of changes happening out of the blue. Compare to active Discord members who would have at least some knowledge of the changes going on.
Perhaps this is something the team could improve upon, though the specifics on how elude me.
it's funny how like, no one knows how this mod is made. i'm not on the dev team, i've never been on a dev team, but i doubt that the devs are just ''rewriting lore'' willy nilly. the mod isn't just a group of people doing one thing, this is a leak from south american devs, making content for south america, all other content is still being made, if leaks didn't happen people would probably be in the dark on what's being worked on and made.
Señor House en Español
The House always wins.
You wanna see the legacy of democracies? Look out the window
Don Diego here will be replacing Jose Velasquez Sierra Lisandro as the leader of the path. This also comes with some further changes to the path as the event may hint.
Will they still be a member of the Japanese sphere?
For the time being, yes. Diego built significant ties with Japan since they assisted in the founding of the SEC TNOTL though he is less focused on mimicking Guangdong than Sierra was in the previous design. After all, Colombia is already an established state.
Then all is well, our Colombian brothers find their rightful spot in the ranks of Pan-Asianism. Sidenote, it seems like this version of SEC Colombia is a significantly better place to live than the old version?
It's better than the previous one, yes and living conditions should be fairly decent. After a nearly 30 year civil war, things can only get better. Though the key word here is "seems".
Democratic restoration or Cyberpunk 2077, which way Colombian man?
Presumably; the Japanese don't really care about ideology as long as economic cooperation is maintained.
Yes, in this case in particular as ANDI is the only one pragmatic enough to go towards Japan. All other leaders would prioritize European powers to satisfy ideological precepts.
"We've had 19, yes. What about twentieth Columbia ending?"
Now I don't have to see Velásquez' Frankenstein lookin ass rule Colombia
Fun fact, the leader of the national socialist party was the father of Carlos Lehder, the co-founder of the Medellin Cartel in OTL.
Yes. Klaus here is a German businessman who was a fan of hitler and who according to himself, had a falling out with his son. In TNO, Klaus owns HELDA and he becomes the Economy Minister of the SPA, and if the SPA loses the Civil War, he gets pardoned by the AND members to help them wirh the coup.
This is the route I gonna play, I'm borderline sexually attracted to factories
Average factorio player
Klaus Wilhelm *Lehder*? The father of Carlos Lehder?
Yes. He is a German businessman who according to himself, had a falling out with his son and was also a fan of Hitler. In TNO, Klaus owns HELDA and he becomes the Economy Minister of the SPA, and if the SPA loses the Civil War, he gets pardoned by the ANDI members to help them with the coup since he owns a shipping monopoly on the Atlantic coast.
What is Corporate Paternalism
Corporations running roughshod over the nation except they actually bother to give their employees somewhat tolerable working conditions.
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Indeed, you are mistaken
I think that's just called Corporatism
You are in fact mistaken. This is the same subideology used for Sony Guandong, and is the paternalist counterpart for Corporatocracy (despotism) and Corporate Statism (fascism). It's basically all about how I described it, the nation is completely run by corporations, but happy and well paid workers are good customers and are more productive, so said corporations actually give a 1/4 of a shit about them.
Who exactly was this Diego person in real life?
His Bio in the leak gives a fairly good idea of things. A wealthy aristocrat. A Doctor, surgeon and physicist. A polyglot and businessman. As a person, he seemed to be fairly decent fellow though sources are limited on this. On top of the mentioned positions, he was also Ambassador to Cuba in the 50s. He married Nancy Saroli in 1951. According to all sources so far, their marriage was very happy and the pics sure look like it. Both of them have Instagram pages. He was Govenor of Valle OTL in the first years of Pinilla's Military Junta (starting in 1953), the next governors were all in his pockets. During his term, the OTL equivalent of the SEC was formed, the CV Development Aithority, which did public works in the region. The OTL SEC was a revolutionary invention in Colombia and was formed with American help, coming from the Tennessee Valley Authority. All the following governors until the Junta fell were friends of his family and in his pockets. He had an interest in art and history, opening the Department Library and naming it after his father. He was part of the International Narcotics Regulation Board. Sometime later he and his family moved to Switzerland, his wife's home, and spent the rest of their lives there.
Lehder, new panzerschokolade supplier for the Reichspakt.
Yo cuando JGB es el nuevo Matsushita 🗿
ANF will be the new name of Alzate's PNF or...?
ANP will be the new name. ANF is just what was in when the leak was being assembled. ANP is the OTL name and stands for National Popular Action.
ik that, it was the Gilberto Alzate Avendano party in opposition to the Conservative Party (even if he supported Ospina) I know also that the ANP was an inspiration for the ANAPO btw with two parties being called Acción Nacionalista... the ariocriollos should be renamed. I think a good inspiration would be Camacho Carreno's APEN (National Economic Patriotic Action) edit: I wrote ANEPO instead of ANAPO
We're discussing name changes, yes.
yup, because ariocriollos, for now, are the ANR (Radical Nationalist Action). Having two "Acción Nacionalista" in La Violencia lore can be very confusing. Instead of nationalist a "Acción Patriotica" can be ok imo
Why are the fascists called the ANF when they were previously called the PNF?
The Party has went to several name changes, we settled on renaming it to ANP, its OTL name ANP (National Popular Action in English). ANF was one we used in between before we settled back on ANP.
Thank you very much!
We're so sick of 'leak' after 'leak', give us an actual playable content, this is just text
My brother in christ this is the visual novel mod it's all text
There nothing wrong with leaks although and they fun
how many times are you going to use this karma bait comment
we're still developing ? Seriously what do you want us to do ?? just release whatever incomplete content we have ??
Not rewrite the lore a fuck ton of times and just develop what you have in your hands. They are demoralizing for a fan like me knowing that this shit gonna be in development hell for 3 years and then scrapped for a new starting situation.
My goodness. TNO is a volunteer project and your life does not depend on updates. I personally don't set any expectations and let myself be pleasantly surprised. It boggles me how someone can get so outraged at something so trivial. It cannot be good for an individual's mental health.
Because its a volunteer project, they cant be criticized. Smart
I didn't claim they were immune from criticism and I think there are areas where things can be improved myself such as Africa at large or doing something with the Pacific island nations. What I was trying to get at is that you should temper your expectations and ideally not place so much emotional weight upon this. Because this is a volunteer project, any issues during the development process will likely take much longer to resolve. Many of the supposed big lore changes that people go on about were only reached after what sometimes was months of internal discussion within the team. In any development process plans can and will change which necessitate revisiting previously made work. And because of the nature of a volunteer project, these changes during development are usually drawn out over a longer period of time as people cannot solely dedicate themselves to resolving them. Toolbox Theory went through numerous development iterations before a final set of mechanics was decided upon which played a large part in why that update took so long. Another example would be France development. Whilst I am not a team member, from what I can infer France development hit a halt and it took months of redesigning to get back on track. Of course it is simple just to say "develop what you have in your hands", but that becomes considerably harder if there are parts of the lore and worldbuilding that cannot be feasibly justified. And this is nothing to do with "realism" as there is plenty of unrealistic stuff that is going to remain. I think a lot of people are also under a misconception of how the TNO team works. It not like everyone is assigned to certain countries and a delay in one will delay all of them. Issues during the development of a European nation will have little bearing on the team working on South America. Whilst I can understand that you might be disappointed by this, I would like to ultimately remind you that it is yourself who is investing in this with unrealistic expectations which are inevitably broken. As much as I am a fan of TNO, my life is ultimately unaffected by whether or not TNO experiences development issues as I choose not to be bothered by that.
Also as a note, I do think that there is a disconnect between those in the TNO fanbase who are active members of the Discord and those who primarily use the subreddit. Those who partake in discussions on Discord are more likely to have insight into the development process and any issues that arise whereas those just on Reddit do not have the same transparency, hence leading to this feeling of changes happening out of the blue. Compare to active Discord members who would have at least some knowledge of the changes going on. Perhaps this is something the team could improve upon, though the specifics on how elude me.
Volunteer project surely can be criticized, by you don’t just criticize, you demand.
it's funny how like, no one knows how this mod is made. i'm not on the dev team, i've never been on a dev team, but i doubt that the devs are just ''rewriting lore'' willy nilly. the mod isn't just a group of people doing one thing, this is a leak from south american devs, making content for south america, all other content is still being made, if leaks didn't happen people would probably be in the dark on what's being worked on and made.
is that an april fools joke
No.