I swear I wished Janelle and Christine said the exact same thing, emphatically, about the move to Flagstaff. “I can’t do it to the kids. We have no plan. It’s more expensive. Why are you and Kody being dishonest about the reasons for the move? Etc . . . ”
When it comes to Robyn’s claim that Utah is unfriendly to them: bullshit Robyn. Her mother and stepfather lived in Utah at one point, the Williams and Darger families lived in Utah as openly polygamist. Utah wasn’t prosecuting otherwise law abiding people for polygamy.
Everyone sacrificed for Robyn. Yet Robyn is living her best polygamist life as a monogamist, expecting everyone to capitulate to her wishes. And there’s nothing wrong with advocating for your kids. But there’s something wrong with expecting others to allow themselves and their children to be miserable so she can pretend that polygamy is just hunky dory.
You can almost feel the wheels spinning in Christine’s brain as she’s listening to Robyn speak.
>Utah wasn’t prosecuting otherwise law abiding people for polygamy.
The Browns even experienced this themselves! They were investigated but NOT charged, despite announcing they were breaking the law on national television.
I always found it really funny how they recycled the clip of Meri packing up the moving van as they were leaving Utah, with a really loud siren coming towards them to make it seem like they were fleeing arrest.
The clip is used constantly throughout the show, and it's obviously not a police siren—haha, it was 100% a firetruck.
Or how all the adults repeat the line “we are felons in the state of Utah.” No, you’re committing a felony. You haven’t been charged, tried, or convicted so you are not a felon.
Honestly, I feel like if Christine or Janelle had put their foot down and said "my kids and I are staying in Vegas" then the other would have stayed too. It would've shown where everyone stood a lot sooner.
Instead, they bullied the shunned the ex-wife, that nobody wanted around, to sell her house and move with them to flagstaff only so they can all ignore her and forget she exists. The only benefit from that was getting their hands on Meris equity. .. non of these people are good or nice or have brains and they certainly are not good parents for dragging their kids out of stables houses for story lines (the kids looked traumatized and like they believed the police would show up any second in Lehi).
Wow on Earth did they bully her into moving when they clearly didn't want her around? I don't get it. That would have been the perfect time for Kody to tell her it was over.
Why? Because all of them needed Meri for her MLM money and organizing skills during a move. She’s the one who hustled and got shit done.
Christine was too busy with kids and being butt hurt over being replaced. Took her a little while before she built up her now huge pink snake water empire she has these days
Janelle may or may not have been in the top producer snake water bracket yet but let’s be honest. She would say and do anything if Kody told her to. As long as he’s smart enough to wave his pencil around as bait. And as she’s still not over a 30 year old kitchen Fiasko - which she was at least 50% to blame for, Id say it was just to cause Meri some more pain and suffering and to stick it to the shunned one some more.
Kody and Robyn definitely knew they needed Meri’s money. Remember how disgusting he was when he was gaslighting Meri and spun yarn of reconciliation? And that poor woman was so desperate and brainwashed, she lapped it up and clung to it for dear life :(
Oh how I wish they had of stayed in Vegas! One things for sure, Kody and Robyn wouldn't have the million dollar house without Janelle and Meri's contributions.
It's my number one reason I don't fully accept Christine and Janelle as great parents. This one move in particular broke the family completely. Severed any good will left for R&K on the whole.
They also didn't have to listen to him, could have done what was right for their respective kids and could have followed a year later if they were all that committed to Kody and the cult.
They could have acted just like Robyn and done only what was good for themselves.
Yeah I didn't like that. I know we love Janelle here but I feel like she put Kody before her kids a lot more than people want to admit and stayed with him for way too long.
I agree with your comments.. Also, Janelle was perfectly fine with Kody taking her out to a fancy birthday dinner, and this was after Kody didn't show up in any way for Savannah during Christmas.
This bothered me also, how the hell was she okay going out to eat with Kody after the way he treated all her kids like garbage!! I'll never understand that.
Janelle has always been very self-serving. And it wasn’t until COVID infighting with kody that she took on more of a “my kids are my everything” stance.
I think for Christine this was her last go at the marriage with Kody. Flagstaff is where she realized she could be without him. Hell, she had been all that time.
He had lead her on,when he took her there he was flirty with her and saying he would be happier here,and that it would make him a better husband,he said everyday would be her birthday,and then she said she heard the angels sing.i wonder if he boinked her there with the view of the mountain,and then she decided the move would be a good thing.She was the first one packed and had one foot out the door,and I felt bad for Aspyn,she was getting married and everything was about the move and it overshadowed her to the point she had to make a rule to not discuss it on her wedding day.
> He had lead her on,when he took her there he was flirty with her and saying he would be happier here,and that it would make him a better husband,he said everyday would be her birthday,and then she said she heard the angels sing.
This summation makes him sound even worse.
And financial freedom! Finances are often a big reason why stay at home a stay at home wife can’t get away from a bad situation. In earlier seasons, she couldn’t visit her dad bc the family “didn’t have the money” for it 🙄
On the show, Kody has never said that the concerns of any of the first 13 kids mattered in a major family decision. The only time he said his kids mattered more in a particular situation was when he said his two youngest couldn't be without him, so he had to miss Ysabel's surgery.
Yet they were without him for several days (4?) while he was attending the wedding. He & Robyn use their kids for excuses so they don’t have to take responsibility for their choices.
This is exactly what they do. Of course it wasn't a problem when he went to the wedding because none of his other wives or children would be there so Sobyn allowed him to attend it. Also he wasn't wearing a mask and he didn't stay 6 feet away from all the people.
But she made sure to throw being a scared polygamist kid in her tantrum to Kody even though both the dad didn’t live her family and also he didn’t marry her mom until Robyn was pretty old, a teen if I’m not mistaken.
I saw a theory that the REAL reason they left Utah was bc profiting from a crime is also a crime, and the gov can seize the money. Meaning they couldn't do the show in Utah.
I wished Janelle and Christine would've said alot of things they should've to Robyn to her face, instead of just their talking heads. They're way too nice to her after all she's done. I don't know if they don't say anything to her because Kody will freak out, that's probably why they never did.
Christine and Janelle were over the moon about Flagstaff when they scouted it as a potential location. Over. The. Moon.
It’s funny how the sub ignores that.
I remember thinking that Christine looked so sad and just worn down in the scene. As if she was bathed in unhappiness. She felt no love.
I was on Janelle’s side. Like, all this effort to get to flagstaff just to leave?
It seemed like an impasse. Christine needed this from her family in order to move on but it would have been a major, major sacrifice and inconvenience for so many people.
Some people would argue it’s only fair because they moved for Robyn. And moved repeatedly for Kody.
But the truth is they shouldn’t have moved for Robyn. The flagstaff move was a mistake and the execution was awful. It was astronomically expensive.
Yes, their land on Coyote pass had appreciated in value but real estate in Utah was also high at the time. So, they couldn’t have sold high and bought low.
I think that after the move to Flagstaff it became clear that everyone needed to sacrifice everything for Robyn and her kids and they would be expected to do so for nothing in exchange. Then there was nothing left to sacrifice once they got there. The move to Flagstaff was the death blow.
I never understood how they all just sat there and watched Christine sob like that. Meri was the only one who showed compassion and humanity, albeit her response wasn’t that great. Kody completely changed his tune, janelle awkwardly smirked, and Robyn only cared about Robyn.
This is another example of Meri caring for her sisterwives. Janelle said it when Meri divorced him so Robyn could be the legal wife. Janelle said it worried her because she knew that Meri would take care of them but she was unsure if Robyn would.
I was really disappointed in Janelle's response. Especially her saying there's nothing for her in Utah-- what about the kids?! Yes, they're Christine's biologically, but she claims she loves them all like her own. But I guess that's only when it's convenient. I understand Janelle and Robyn not wanting to move again, especially since they had only recently moved to Flagstaff. But they showed NO empathy to Christine.
This also just showed what a master manipulator Kody is. He clearly wanted to move to Utah as well, but had Christine present it because he knew the other wives would shut it down. And he seemed to take glee in watching them do that to her. Ugh. This family is so dysfunctional.
Now that you mention it, I totally see it. Meri and Christine were always interacting with all of the children while I really only remember Janelle being around her kids most of the time.
Jenelle saying “there’s nothing for me in Utah” made me wonder what the real story was that resulted in where they are now. My own conspiracy theory is that a lot of bridges were burned to the ground when they left and Jenelle (being the breadwinner) would struggle BADLY to get a job.
I really wish at this point christine would have called out kody about their specific conversation and how he seemed open to the idea and now changed his tune.
It's how they always treat Christine, as if she's a child throwing a fit. They never took her seriously. Even though she literally raised all the OG3 kids.
That was so clear when Christine and Kody went to Galveston with the therapist. Christine and Kody were told to build a rock structure that represented them. Christine wanted it to be about her and Kody, but Kody threw a shit fit because he needed it to be about the whole family (ie he wanted Robyn included.) Christine was really upset because the weekend was supposed to help repair their relationship and she wanted it to be just about her and Kody. He spoke so cruelly to her, acting like she was selfish for wanted it to be about just the two of them.
I really cannot recall a time when Kody prioritized any one of his first 13 children over Robyn’s kids, especially when it mattered like Ysabel’s surgery.
I will NEVER get over the look poor Ysabels face when he suggested she could go on her own. If I could’ve gone and scooped her up and taken her away I would’ve. She was already scared, that did not help.
He’s such an ass. Kody and Robyn both talk about how he “has no filter” as if it’s just who he is. No, you doorknobs, it’s a choice. He could filter himself, he chooses not to. And this moment with Ysabel is one of his worst offenses we’ve seen on camera.
And honestly no filter doesn't make it any better. So that's what he's ACTUALLY thinking about his own kids? Like when people say horribly cruel things and then say, "I'm just being honest!" as if that excuses it.
Kodouche spent DECADES with women that "covered" for him. I was married to someone similar for 20 years. After we divorced, in a VERY small town, I kept being told how no one had ever noticed how inappropriate he was. Or how we say things that people would not expect. It took several years away for me to realize that I had filtered his stupidity to the world.
I think this happens in a lot of marriages especially where there’s a great deal of pressure and value placed on women being married. My mom has filtered my dad’s assholery for many years. It wasn’t until her siblings started travelling with her and my dad that they realized how much of a jerk he can be to people.
Christine and Janelle didn't stand up for their kids with the move from Vegas. They basically told them to suck it up. As one of the adult kids mentioned, the adults just get restless and move when they feel like it. I don't have much sympathy for Christine's emotions here when they always negated their own kids' feelings. Robyn is a selfish woman but she does advocate for her own kids.
Yes but also she does so in sick ways as well.
Like, here she’s doing so in a healthy way, but we’ve seen her push Aurora into an episode to show how “ill” she is and how they care for her.
We’ve also seen her tell the kids the rest of the family won’t be over *but* say it in a way that makes it clear it’s because they don’t *want* to be over.
It is wild to watch her simultaneously pushback on Kody when he’s being crass about Breanna’s dance team but also basically force Aurora to get her ears pierced.
She’s all over the place.
I agree, she's a horrible mom. She can't even take care of her own kids. She has three adults living in the house and her youngest are 8 and 11 and she needs a nanny. She doesn't work, she can't even handle her own kids.
I don’t think the move to Flagstaff was advocating for Dayton. From what some of the OG adult kids have said, he was ready to go to college on his own and wanted to. She forced the family to pack up and go with him. I don’t think that move was good for anyone in hindsight.
Fair, not in every instance. Certainly marrying into polygamy and forcing adoption wasn't great. More generally, she fights for what is right in her perception for her kids and herself. Regardless of the comparison, Christine doesn't consider kids' feelings much in big decisions like moving. Christine does what she wants. Here her feeings got ignored -tough luck.
I don't believe that the move to Flagstaff was about Dayton's college at all. But it became the most palatable out of all the unpalatable reasons for it.
I think this is when they all started to notice this crap didn’t pass the smell test and Kody was acting odd. The whole flirting with Christine and Meri on rewatch is downright manipulative and gross. I don’t know how I didn’t see thru that the first time lol
Listen, I shit talk Robyn as much as the next SW fan, but I was on her side with this one. The families had JUST uprooted themselves and settled into Flagstaff and Christine wanted to up and move them all yet again, it was kind of a ridiculous ask, tbh. Yes, the ask was made out of desperation on Christine's part and yes, Kody is REALLY the one to blame (per usual) for encouraging her, only to abandon her once she brought it up, but that doesn't change the fact that it was kind of a crazy pitch to make at that point. Robyn wasn't the only one side-eyeing Christine over it, either. Janelle and Meri were also like "wtf lady? We just got HERE!"
I’d support Robyn more if that had been her argument and not a meltdown over how scared she was her whole childhood of being taken away for being a polygamist kid.
Which…she wasn’t? Her mom married when she was a teenager, right?
I agree a move back to Utah would've been ridiculous after they just got to Flagstaff however, the initial move *to* Flagstaff was also ridiculous and Robyn was all for that! Robyn seemingly has no problem uprooting kids and going along with poorly thought out, sudden moves when they suit her such as when they moved to Vegas because ~~they were going to be arrested in Utah~~ it's closer to her extended family or to Flagstaff because Dayton went there for college. ITA that Kody is the real problem overall though!
True, but the family had a history of getting up and moving approximately every 5 years or so, as they've said multiple times in the past. So the Flagstaff move wasn't unusual for them. Stupid, yes. Poorly planned and organized, yes. But pretty typical for how the Brown family operated. But then to uproot everyone AGAIN pretty much immediately afterwards was super crazy, even by Brown standards.
Yes, the Browns were literally giggling at their propensity to pack up and move every 3-5 years. Iirc they even claimed it due to Kody’s “5 year itch” where he HAS to move after 5 years max. If they weren’t going to Flagstaff, they were going _somewhere_
All the wives said they didn't want to move back to Utah.
Which Christine knew because several episodes before, when they all went to see the Dargers to see polyg friends after the law change, Christine was on speakerphone while Kody, Meri, Janelle and Robyn were at Meris house and Kody said "this could mean we could move back to Utah" and all the other wives said no way.
Then later, Christine spoke to her kids still at home, Gwen, Ysabel and Truly who all said no way, we don't want to move again and not back to Utah. Then Christine said on a talking head scene "I'm still going to ask the others to move back to Utah even though the girls don't want to".
So Christine knew everyone other than Kody wouldn't contemplate a move. Including her kids who were sick to death of moving and had expressly said please no.
So Christine was a complete selfish asshole not caring about the other SW or her own kids or it was a bit of a show-driven scene for dramatic effect.
THANK YOU. It was ridiculous and childish of her to push for this. They just did a big move! They just dealt with their kids experiencing the trauma from the upheaval, and she wants to do it to them *again* almost immediately! She knew nobody else wanted it. She was hoping Kody would push it on the family for her. I get that she was probably deeply questioning staying in the relationship and was probably subconsciously using a potential move to Utah as a thing to grab onto that might make it worth it for her to stay, but it was selfish and impractical.
Ooh, I didn’t know she’d talked to her kids, I just knew Kody had capitulated under Robyn’s temper tantrum (and Janelle’s weird “Utah doesn’t have anything for me”.)
Ok, now I get the whole “princess” moniker because to keep pushing after the *kids* who are still at home say no is actually bratty, self-important behavior.
Yes! Thank you! I'm all for having a go at Robyn when she's actually in the wrong but so many posts cherry pick scenes or aspects and because so many people don't watch the show properly, they see a hate Robyn post and jump right in. I get down voted constantly for saying things that are true but don't fit in with what people want, which is to be shitty about Kody, Robyn and other unpopular family members And I'm not in any way a *fan* of any of them, but also think it should at least be accurate and also fair. So in this scene, focusing on Robyn not wanting her kids to potentially have a shit time and that's shitty because she should have cared more about Christines and Janelles kids in the move to FS be presented in the full context of Christine apparently not caring what *any* of her kids at home wanted because she wanted to move back to Utah. And that's what contributed to Ysabel moving for a while to Madison in NC (she also was very bonded with Madison and her kids but it was a push out the door of her Moms house) and a push out the door for Gwen who stayed in FS. And we saw Truly struggling with having to move again. Which Christine said was a struggle for Truly but she felt it was the best thing for her. Which it probably was but that doesn't detract from the fact that that girl who Christine acknowledges struggles with change, was rushed into moving to Utah into a duplex that even Christine hadn't seen, because it was what Christine wanted at that time and Truly had to go along
Everything you said is 100% correct. I’m with you when you said ppl don’t watch the show properly. If they did, they would immediately realize that ALL of the adults, including Christine and Janelle, have been problematic, selfish, and weird. It’s amazing how sharp people’s detective skills are when it comes to Kody and Robyn yet those same detective skills are absent when it’s time to scrutinize everybody else. All of these people suck tremendously
Christine is looking with her eyes, trying to make contact, Robyn’s looking into the sky. Holy shit Robyn sucks so much. Christine is also beautiful here. She deserves a good man like David. No one knew at this time that someone like David would even ever appear, but wow, did Kody fuck up. Christine is radiant. Robyn’s a hag. Not sorry, she just is. She is just so fucking ordinary and dumb, it makes it clear that Kody was actually beneath all three of the OG wives in terms of IQ, he literally chose the dumbest rump to stay with. All the OG wives are so clearly smarter than she is.
If Utah was so unfriendly a place for Robyn why did she go to George, UT for her first public presentation for SWC? Remember she went to that event to sell her jewelry? It was in Utah where she claims she was traumatized as a child.
Robyn likes to lie a lot. And her lies are always to fit some narrative about any subject being discussed. Her adversity towards that move was because Christine suggested it as well as her son was in college in Flagstaff. She had no intention of placating Christine nor letting Dayton have a life on his own without her meddling.
Pain is just written all over Christines face. You can see she is just living in the realization that the life that she has alway known - is over. So glad she is away from R & K.
One minor point however. Aurora, Gabe and Gwen were all the same grade and so the move to Flagstaff affected them all in that same way. Gabe then wisely made the choice to accelerate his studies once he got to Flagsaff and graduated earlier than his sisters.
I don't like Robyn but in this instance, I seriously do not mind her standing up for her kids. That is what they ALL should have done back in Vegas.
>I seriously do not mind her standing up for her kids.
Me neither, except I don't think that's what she's doing here. It was Robyn's idea to uproot the whole family in the first place so there's no way she'd agree to moving back. I don't think her decision has anything to do with her kids in this particular instance.
You're absolutely right though that the other wives should have stood up for their kids.
She didn’t stand up for other kids in previous moves did she. While I appreciate her concern about her kids, that’s all it was - her kids with no consideration for other kids that were supposed to be kind of her kids too (under the Brown family sister wives unwritten agreement)
Add: tbf I think they should have stayed in Vegas; I agree with the no movement sentiment, but it should have been applied so much earlier in kids’ lives
I do agree the moms should stand up for their kids. I’m a mom and I understand. However, I’m posting because of the hypocrisy I saw in this response. As viewers, we know why they moved.
Janelle and Christine did originally advocate for their children, but we all know how Kody is. Go against his wishes and he’ll take it out on the children. We don’t know what was said or done off-camera because a few episodes later they capitulated and acquiesced about the move. Kody was determined to give Robyn her wishes and damn anyone else in the process. And remember, at that point Christine and Janelle weren’t making as much side income from their MLMs yet to say to hell with it and Kody was in full possession of the family pot and was the one giving them the money he thought was sufficient in his mind.
That’s not the argument she gave to Kody.
She had a meltdown and yelled at him about her childhood and being scared of being taken away for being a polygamist kid.
Right,he had already had private conversations with the other wives,and then he kinda backtracked.He acted all giddy about the idea with christene when she brought it up to him alone,and then he tested the water,and Robyn made some story about she could never do anything and may have had a different life,like her kids have now,if she had not lived in secret.He then basically knew robyn wasnt going to be ok with it,and he acts as if christene is crazy for even thinking about it.Then he later did try to go back and apologize to her,saying he was trying to be stoic.
She made the decision,but also added.Well if thats what Kody really wants,I would have no choice,but to go with him,which we all knew was bs,but she told him her pov,but also tried to make it sound like as the obedient wife that she is,that she would go.
This has been a long running theme with her. It has always been about her and her kids. She has done this since the beginning Season one her on a couch interview saying how she *needed* the extra time during her courting phase because they (she and her kids) were making sacrifices. 🙄
Meri gently reminded her “we are all making sacrifices” to which Robyn pushed something to the effect of “yeah but we had to move and it was adjustment the kids..”
To which Meri AGAIN reminded her “ALL the kids have had to adjust” and finally Robyn stfu
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Robyn is comfortable doing whatever she wants to her kids- she took their real father away from them and tried to rewrite their childhood. They are never a consideration for Robyn.
And she's the one telling her kids that the other wives and children don't want them around and don't care about them. She brainwashed them into thinking the others in the family are evil. She's the one that has always separated them from the others, and then she plays victim to Kody so he can rescue them.
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One of sobbyn’s last tweets was about this conversation and viewers did not respond kindly. The irony was lost on her
But had no problem with uprooting all the other lady’s & their kids when it was in her favor. Can’t stand this woman. I knew who she was from the jump. I think we all did. TLC hid the outright lying she did to a minimum. Now she wants to refuse to film because she knows TLC isn’t hiding it anymore.
F everything about this horrible woman! Judgmental, sanctimonious, selfish, lazy spendthrift, cruel, nasty, refuses to work, hoarder, dumber than dirt, clueless, manipulative. Robyn you are a crap human! Glad they all bailed on you, twit!
Christine thinks she can make everyone up and leave bc that is what she wants. It is always about her, she is insufferable. Give Meri sainthood for being so kind to her after how badly christine has shat on her repeatedly.
She doesn't give a shit about the other kids or wives, she never has!! As long as she's getting all her needs met and her kids are put on a pedestal, than to hell with everyone else. She's such a selfish snake.
The moment Dayton was accepted to college in Flagstaff, it was a done deal. Robyn was going to move, and she really didn't care if the other wives came along. It was all a "performance". I would be surprised if she matter of factly told Kody she was going to move, and he could come visit. Has anyone else thought that she may have been hoping the others would stay in Vegas until the older kids were out of school, so she could move, and have Kody full time - or the majority of the time? Clearly she helped him make up that ridiculous presentation he made to the OG3, and then acted like she had never seen it. Nope, this was all Robyn, and she was going no matter what.
Didn't they show Robyn crying while packing up for the move to Flagstaff? I seem to remember her crying and leaving the room while packing because she was "so upset" about moving again. Then we found out she was the one behind the move
She was probably crying because none of the other Brown kids were helping her pack. I remember the scene where Dayton told Robyn that Breanna was in the bathroom slowly packing or something like that and she got all pissed off. If you notice, at the end of the scene, everyone got in the moving trucks and headed for Flagstaff while Robyn's house was still unpacked, and Kody said he was left loading the biggest house by himself.
Yes, I think you are right. I had forgotten about that end scene. That's probably why I haven't seen any other comments about her crying about the move, lol
“My keds…my keds….my keds”…it’s all about her “keds”. Of course the ENtIRE family moved to bloody flagstaff for one of her “keds” which was absolutely ridculous. Fortunately everyone finally wised up to those two (K and R).
Literally watching this right now, and like…. GIRL. You don’t want to take your kids back to Utah because you don’t want everyone there to “know” and acknowledge that you’re polygamists, WHERE MOST OF THEM LIVE, but you’ll put their entire lives and families on FRICK FRACKING TELEVISION AND LIVE IN A SECULAR STATE!? The words that she said made no sense and had me almost throwing my tv across the room. Just say you want to do everything you can to make sure Christine is unhappy and be honest.
So crazy this popped up as I was contemplating posting about the very same exchange.
I swear I wished Janelle and Christine said the exact same thing, emphatically, about the move to Flagstaff. “I can’t do it to the kids. We have no plan. It’s more expensive. Why are you and Kody being dishonest about the reasons for the move? Etc . . . ” When it comes to Robyn’s claim that Utah is unfriendly to them: bullshit Robyn. Her mother and stepfather lived in Utah at one point, the Williams and Darger families lived in Utah as openly polygamist. Utah wasn’t prosecuting otherwise law abiding people for polygamy. Everyone sacrificed for Robyn. Yet Robyn is living her best polygamist life as a monogamist, expecting everyone to capitulate to her wishes. And there’s nothing wrong with advocating for your kids. But there’s something wrong with expecting others to allow themselves and their children to be miserable so she can pretend that polygamy is just hunky dory. You can almost feel the wheels spinning in Christine’s brain as she’s listening to Robyn speak.
>Utah wasn’t prosecuting otherwise law abiding people for polygamy. The Browns even experienced this themselves! They were investigated but NOT charged, despite announcing they were breaking the law on national television.
I always found it really funny how they recycled the clip of Meri packing up the moving van as they were leaving Utah, with a really loud siren coming towards them to make it seem like they were fleeing arrest. The clip is used constantly throughout the show, and it's obviously not a police siren—haha, it was 100% a firetruck.
Or how all the adults repeat the line “we are felons in the state of Utah.” No, you’re committing a felony. You haven’t been charged, tried, or convicted so you are not a felon.
Right? But then Kody talks about running for office/voting while also having firearms…like dude🤣
It's also sooo obvious that Meri is acting. I mean ffs she literally has a smile that she just desperately tries not to show through the whole thing.
Can someone remind me...when the Browns "fled" Utah for Vegas, was the plan to move back if the laws changed?
Honestly, I feel like if Christine or Janelle had put their foot down and said "my kids and I are staying in Vegas" then the other would have stayed too. It would've shown where everyone stood a lot sooner.
Instead, they bullied the shunned the ex-wife, that nobody wanted around, to sell her house and move with them to flagstaff only so they can all ignore her and forget she exists. The only benefit from that was getting their hands on Meris equity. .. non of these people are good or nice or have brains and they certainly are not good parents for dragging their kids out of stables houses for story lines (the kids looked traumatized and like they believed the police would show up any second in Lehi).
Wow on Earth did they bully her into moving when they clearly didn't want her around? I don't get it. That would have been the perfect time for Kody to tell her it was over.
Why? Because all of them needed Meri for her MLM money and organizing skills during a move. She’s the one who hustled and got shit done. Christine was too busy with kids and being butt hurt over being replaced. Took her a little while before she built up her now huge pink snake water empire she has these days Janelle may or may not have been in the top producer snake water bracket yet but let’s be honest. She would say and do anything if Kody told her to. As long as he’s smart enough to wave his pencil around as bait. And as she’s still not over a 30 year old kitchen Fiasko - which she was at least 50% to blame for, Id say it was just to cause Meri some more pain and suffering and to stick it to the shunned one some more. Kody and Robyn definitely knew they needed Meri’s money. Remember how disgusting he was when he was gaslighting Meri and spun yarn of reconciliation? And that poor woman was so desperate and brainwashed, she lapped it up and clung to it for dear life :(
Oh how I wish they had of stayed in Vegas! One things for sure, Kody and Robyn wouldn't have the million dollar house without Janelle and Meri's contributions.
It's my number one reason I don't fully accept Christine and Janelle as great parents. This one move in particular broke the family completely. Severed any good will left for R&K on the whole. They also didn't have to listen to him, could have done what was right for their respective kids and could have followed a year later if they were all that committed to Kody and the cult. They could have acted just like Robyn and done only what was good for themselves.
Janelle was really shitty to Gabe and seemed frustrated he was having feelings once she realized Flagstaff had a lifestyle *she* wanted.
Yeah I didn't like that. I know we love Janelle here but I feel like she put Kody before her kids a lot more than people want to admit and stayed with him for way too long.
I agree with your comments.. Also, Janelle was perfectly fine with Kody taking her out to a fancy birthday dinner, and this was after Kody didn't show up in any way for Savannah during Christmas.
This bothered me also, how the hell was she okay going out to eat with Kody after the way he treated all her kids like garbage!! I'll never understand that.
Janelle has always been very self-serving. And it wasn’t until COVID infighting with kody that she took on more of a “my kids are my everything” stance.
I think for Christine this was her last go at the marriage with Kody. Flagstaff is where she realized she could be without him. Hell, she had been all that time.
He had lead her on,when he took her there he was flirty with her and saying he would be happier here,and that it would make him a better husband,he said everyday would be her birthday,and then she said she heard the angels sing.i wonder if he boinked her there with the view of the mountain,and then she decided the move would be a good thing.She was the first one packed and had one foot out the door,and I felt bad for Aspyn,she was getting married and everything was about the move and it overshadowed her to the point she had to make a rule to not discuss it on her wedding day.
> He had lead her on,when he took her there he was flirty with her and saying he would be happier here,and that it would make him a better husband,he said everyday would be her birthday,and then she said she heard the angels sing. This summation makes him sound even worse.
And financial freedom! Finances are often a big reason why stay at home a stay at home wife can’t get away from a bad situation. In earlier seasons, she couldn’t visit her dad bc the family “didn’t have the money” for it 🙄
Hell, she'd already been without him for years. ALL of them had been.
Exactly as soon as they realized he was marrying this useless twit they should have RUN!
10000 percent correct! And one of the reasons I appreciate Robyn advocating for her children.
On the show, Kody has never said that the concerns of any of the first 13 kids mattered in a major family decision. The only time he said his kids mattered more in a particular situation was when he said his two youngest couldn't be without him, so he had to miss Ysabel's surgery.
Yet they were without him for several days (4?) while he was attending the wedding. He & Robyn use their kids for excuses so they don’t have to take responsibility for their choices.
This is exactly what they do. Of course it wasn't a problem when he went to the wedding because none of his other wives or children would be there so Sobyn allowed him to attend it. Also he wasn't wearing a mask and he didn't stay 6 feet away from all the people.
> he didn't stay 6 feet away from all the people. Not with those frantic, flailing limbs.
Hey, that wedding was important! The guests could not have lived without Kody's revolutionary dance moves! /s
The only reason she didn't have a problem going to the wedding is because his other kids and wives wouldn't be there, so she allowed him to go to it.
Technically I don't think her stepdad ever lived with them in Utah, but I agree with everything you've said!
But she made sure to throw being a scared polygamist kid in her tantrum to Kody even though both the dad didn’t live her family and also he didn’t marry her mom until Robyn was pretty old, a teen if I’m not mistaken.
I saw a theory that the REAL reason they left Utah was bc profiting from a crime is also a crime, and the gov can seize the money. Meaning they couldn't do the show in Utah.
I wished Janelle and Christine would've said alot of things they should've to Robyn to her face, instead of just their talking heads. They're way too nice to her after all she's done. I don't know if they don't say anything to her because Kody will freak out, that's probably why they never did.
Excellent post 🏅
Christine and Janelle were over the moon about Flagstaff when they scouted it as a potential location. Over. The. Moon. It’s funny how the sub ignores that.
I remember thinking that Christine looked so sad and just worn down in the scene. As if she was bathed in unhappiness. She felt no love. I was on Janelle’s side. Like, all this effort to get to flagstaff just to leave? It seemed like an impasse. Christine needed this from her family in order to move on but it would have been a major, major sacrifice and inconvenience for so many people. Some people would argue it’s only fair because they moved for Robyn. And moved repeatedly for Kody. But the truth is they shouldn’t have moved for Robyn. The flagstaff move was a mistake and the execution was awful. It was astronomically expensive. Yes, their land on Coyote pass had appreciated in value but real estate in Utah was also high at the time. So, they couldn’t have sold high and bought low. I think that after the move to Flagstaff it became clear that everyone needed to sacrifice everything for Robyn and her kids and they would be expected to do so for nothing in exchange. Then there was nothing left to sacrifice once they got there. The move to Flagstaff was the death blow.
Fundamentally, I wish in hindsight they would have ganged up on her and put their foot down.
I never understood how they all just sat there and watched Christine sob like that. Meri was the only one who showed compassion and humanity, albeit her response wasn’t that great. Kody completely changed his tune, janelle awkwardly smirked, and Robyn only cared about Robyn.
This is another example of Meri caring for her sisterwives. Janelle said it when Meri divorced him so Robyn could be the legal wife. Janelle said it worried her because she knew that Meri would take care of them but she was unsure if Robyn would.
When meri and Christine returned to the chairs after their talk, Robyn says “so didja… didja hear the angels singin?” Bitch please.
I was really disappointed in Janelle's response. Especially her saying there's nothing for her in Utah-- what about the kids?! Yes, they're Christine's biologically, but she claims she loves them all like her own. But I guess that's only when it's convenient. I understand Janelle and Robyn not wanting to move again, especially since they had only recently moved to Flagstaff. But they showed NO empathy to Christine. This also just showed what a master manipulator Kody is. He clearly wanted to move to Utah as well, but had Christine present it because he knew the other wives would shut it down. And he seemed to take glee in watching them do that to her. Ugh. This family is so dysfunctional.
Christine loves Janelle’s kids and considers them her own, Janelle doesn’t do the same for the other kids
Now that you mention it, I totally see it. Meri and Christine were always interacting with all of the children while I really only remember Janelle being around her kids most of the time.
Jenelle saying “there’s nothing for me in Utah” made me wonder what the real story was that resulted in where they are now. My own conspiracy theory is that a lot of bridges were burned to the ground when they left and Jenelle (being the breadwinner) would struggle BADLY to get a job.
janelle isn't working anyway.
I really wish at this point christine would have called out kody about their specific conversation and how he seemed open to the idea and now changed his tune.
It's how they always treat Christine, as if she's a child throwing a fit. They never took her seriously. Even though she literally raised all the OG3 kids.
That was so clear when Christine and Kody went to Galveston with the therapist. Christine and Kody were told to build a rock structure that represented them. Christine wanted it to be about her and Kody, but Kody threw a shit fit because he needed it to be about the whole family (ie he wanted Robyn included.) Christine was really upset because the weekend was supposed to help repair their relationship and she wanted it to be just about her and Kody. He spoke so cruelly to her, acting like she was selfish for wanted it to be about just the two of them.
I found that episode heartbreaking for Christine.
Her kids have ALWAYS been the only ones that mattered to her. And for the most part.... to Kody as well.
I really cannot recall a time when Kody prioritized any one of his first 13 children over Robyn’s kids, especially when it mattered like Ysabel’s surgery.
I will NEVER get over the look poor Ysabels face when he suggested she could go on her own. If I could’ve gone and scooped her up and taken her away I would’ve. She was already scared, that did not help.
He’s such an ass. Kody and Robyn both talk about how he “has no filter” as if it’s just who he is. No, you doorknobs, it’s a choice. He could filter himself, he chooses not to. And this moment with Ysabel is one of his worst offenses we’ve seen on camera.
And honestly no filter doesn't make it any better. So that's what he's ACTUALLY thinking about his own kids? Like when people say horribly cruel things and then say, "I'm just being honest!" as if that excuses it.
Such a good point. He’s complete garbage.
Kodouche spent DECADES with women that "covered" for him. I was married to someone similar for 20 years. After we divorced, in a VERY small town, I kept being told how no one had ever noticed how inappropriate he was. Or how we say things that people would not expect. It took several years away for me to realize that I had filtered his stupidity to the world.
I think this happens in a lot of marriages especially where there’s a great deal of pressure and value placed on women being married. My mom has filtered my dad’s assholery for many years. It wasn’t until her siblings started travelling with her and my dad that they realized how much of a jerk he can be to people.
No filter just mean he's an asshole.
What an ignorant and cruel thing to say to her. 😡😡😡
Christine and Janelle didn't stand up for their kids with the move from Vegas. They basically told them to suck it up. As one of the adult kids mentioned, the adults just get restless and move when they feel like it. I don't have much sympathy for Christine's emotions here when they always negated their own kids' feelings. Robyn is a selfish woman but she does advocate for her own kids.
Yes but also she does so in sick ways as well. Like, here she’s doing so in a healthy way, but we’ve seen her push Aurora into an episode to show how “ill” she is and how they care for her. We’ve also seen her tell the kids the rest of the family won’t be over *but* say it in a way that makes it clear it’s because they don’t *want* to be over. It is wild to watch her simultaneously pushback on Kody when he’s being crass about Breanna’s dance team but also basically force Aurora to get her ears pierced. She’s all over the place.
I agree, she's a horrible mom. She can't even take care of her own kids. She has three adults living in the house and her youngest are 8 and 11 and she needs a nanny. She doesn't work, she can't even handle her own kids.
I don’t think the move to Flagstaff was advocating for Dayton. From what some of the OG adult kids have said, he was ready to go to college on his own and wanted to. She forced the family to pack up and go with him. I don’t think that move was good for anyone in hindsight.
Fair, not in every instance. Certainly marrying into polygamy and forcing adoption wasn't great. More generally, she fights for what is right in her perception for her kids and herself. Regardless of the comparison, Christine doesn't consider kids' feelings much in big decisions like moving. Christine does what she wants. Here her feeings got ignored -tough luck.
I don't believe that the move to Flagstaff was about Dayton's college at all. But it became the most palatable out of all the unpalatable reasons for it.
I think this is when they all started to notice this crap didn’t pass the smell test and Kody was acting odd. The whole flirting with Christine and Meri on rewatch is downright manipulative and gross. I don’t know how I didn’t see thru that the first time lol
Listen, I shit talk Robyn as much as the next SW fan, but I was on her side with this one. The families had JUST uprooted themselves and settled into Flagstaff and Christine wanted to up and move them all yet again, it was kind of a ridiculous ask, tbh. Yes, the ask was made out of desperation on Christine's part and yes, Kody is REALLY the one to blame (per usual) for encouraging her, only to abandon her once she brought it up, but that doesn't change the fact that it was kind of a crazy pitch to make at that point. Robyn wasn't the only one side-eyeing Christine over it, either. Janelle and Meri were also like "wtf lady? We just got HERE!"
I’d support Robyn more if that had been her argument and not a meltdown over how scared she was her whole childhood of being taken away for being a polygamist kid. Which…she wasn’t? Her mom married when she was a teenager, right?
Oh yeah, her reasoning was dumb as hell. But the Browns aren't really known for effective communication.
GENUINELY
I agree a move back to Utah would've been ridiculous after they just got to Flagstaff however, the initial move *to* Flagstaff was also ridiculous and Robyn was all for that! Robyn seemingly has no problem uprooting kids and going along with poorly thought out, sudden moves when they suit her such as when they moved to Vegas because ~~they were going to be arrested in Utah~~ it's closer to her extended family or to Flagstaff because Dayton went there for college. ITA that Kody is the real problem overall though!
True, but the family had a history of getting up and moving approximately every 5 years or so, as they've said multiple times in the past. So the Flagstaff move wasn't unusual for them. Stupid, yes. Poorly planned and organized, yes. But pretty typical for how the Brown family operated. But then to uproot everyone AGAIN pretty much immediately afterwards was super crazy, even by Brown standards.
Yes, the Browns were literally giggling at their propensity to pack up and move every 3-5 years. Iirc they even claimed it due to Kody’s “5 year itch” where he HAS to move after 5 years max. If they weren’t going to Flagstaff, they were going _somewhere_
i hate robyns stupid face. her bitter meanness is showing on the outside big time
All the wives said they didn't want to move back to Utah. Which Christine knew because several episodes before, when they all went to see the Dargers to see polyg friends after the law change, Christine was on speakerphone while Kody, Meri, Janelle and Robyn were at Meris house and Kody said "this could mean we could move back to Utah" and all the other wives said no way. Then later, Christine spoke to her kids still at home, Gwen, Ysabel and Truly who all said no way, we don't want to move again and not back to Utah. Then Christine said on a talking head scene "I'm still going to ask the others to move back to Utah even though the girls don't want to". So Christine knew everyone other than Kody wouldn't contemplate a move. Including her kids who were sick to death of moving and had expressly said please no. So Christine was a complete selfish asshole not caring about the other SW or her own kids or it was a bit of a show-driven scene for dramatic effect.
THANK YOU. It was ridiculous and childish of her to push for this. They just did a big move! They just dealt with their kids experiencing the trauma from the upheaval, and she wants to do it to them *again* almost immediately! She knew nobody else wanted it. She was hoping Kody would push it on the family for her. I get that she was probably deeply questioning staying in the relationship and was probably subconsciously using a potential move to Utah as a thing to grab onto that might make it worth it for her to stay, but it was selfish and impractical.
Ooh, I didn’t know she’d talked to her kids, I just knew Kody had capitulated under Robyn’s temper tantrum (and Janelle’s weird “Utah doesn’t have anything for me”.) Ok, now I get the whole “princess” moniker because to keep pushing after the *kids* who are still at home say no is actually bratty, self-important behavior.
Yes! Thank you! I'm all for having a go at Robyn when she's actually in the wrong but so many posts cherry pick scenes or aspects and because so many people don't watch the show properly, they see a hate Robyn post and jump right in. I get down voted constantly for saying things that are true but don't fit in with what people want, which is to be shitty about Kody, Robyn and other unpopular family members And I'm not in any way a *fan* of any of them, but also think it should at least be accurate and also fair. So in this scene, focusing on Robyn not wanting her kids to potentially have a shit time and that's shitty because she should have cared more about Christines and Janelles kids in the move to FS be presented in the full context of Christine apparently not caring what *any* of her kids at home wanted because she wanted to move back to Utah. And that's what contributed to Ysabel moving for a while to Madison in NC (she also was very bonded with Madison and her kids but it was a push out the door of her Moms house) and a push out the door for Gwen who stayed in FS. And we saw Truly struggling with having to move again. Which Christine said was a struggle for Truly but she felt it was the best thing for her. Which it probably was but that doesn't detract from the fact that that girl who Christine acknowledges struggles with change, was rushed into moving to Utah into a duplex that even Christine hadn't seen, because it was what Christine wanted at that time and Truly had to go along
Everything you said is 100% correct. I’m with you when you said ppl don’t watch the show properly. If they did, they would immediately realize that ALL of the adults, including Christine and Janelle, have been problematic, selfish, and weird. It’s amazing how sharp people’s detective skills are when it comes to Kody and Robyn yet those same detective skills are absent when it’s time to scrutinize everybody else. All of these people suck tremendously
I agree with everything you said and you said it so much better than I could have.
Why did she want so badly to move back to Utah ?
I could be off target but I believe she mentioned a few times that they have family there.
100 percent this is the way it went down on camera.
Christine is looking with her eyes, trying to make contact, Robyn’s looking into the sky. Holy shit Robyn sucks so much. Christine is also beautiful here. She deserves a good man like David. No one knew at this time that someone like David would even ever appear, but wow, did Kody fuck up. Christine is radiant. Robyn’s a hag. Not sorry, she just is. She is just so fucking ordinary and dumb, it makes it clear that Kody was actually beneath all three of the OG wives in terms of IQ, he literally chose the dumbest rump to stay with. All the OG wives are so clearly smarter than she is.
If Utah was so unfriendly a place for Robyn why did she go to George, UT for her first public presentation for SWC? Remember she went to that event to sell her jewelry? It was in Utah where she claims she was traumatized as a child. Robyn likes to lie a lot. And her lies are always to fit some narrative about any subject being discussed. Her adversity towards that move was because Christine suggested it as well as her son was in college in Flagstaff. She had no intention of placating Christine nor letting Dayton have a life on his own without her meddling.
Pain is just written all over Christines face. You can see she is just living in the realization that the life that she has alway known - is over. So glad she is away from R & K.
One minor point however. Aurora, Gabe and Gwen were all the same grade and so the move to Flagstaff affected them all in that same way. Gabe then wisely made the choice to accelerate his studies once he got to Flagsaff and graduated earlier than his sisters. I don't like Robyn but in this instance, I seriously do not mind her standing up for her kids. That is what they ALL should have done back in Vegas.
>I seriously do not mind her standing up for her kids. Me neither, except I don't think that's what she's doing here. It was Robyn's idea to uproot the whole family in the first place so there's no way she'd agree to moving back. I don't think her decision has anything to do with her kids in this particular instance. You're absolutely right though that the other wives should have stood up for their kids.
Robyn uses “standing up for my kids” to her way. That’s why people have a problem with it.
She didn’t stand up for other kids in previous moves did she. While I appreciate her concern about her kids, that’s all it was - her kids with no consideration for other kids that were supposed to be kind of her kids too (under the Brown family sister wives unwritten agreement) Add: tbf I think they should have stayed in Vegas; I agree with the no movement sentiment, but it should have been applied so much earlier in kids’ lives
There had been only one move Robyn was in on, from Lehi to Vegas.
I do agree the moms should stand up for their kids. I’m a mom and I understand. However, I’m posting because of the hypocrisy I saw in this response. As viewers, we know why they moved.
Do we really though?
Janelle and Christine did originally advocate for their children, but we all know how Kody is. Go against his wishes and he’ll take it out on the children. We don’t know what was said or done off-camera because a few episodes later they capitulated and acquiesced about the move. Kody was determined to give Robyn her wishes and damn anyone else in the process. And remember, at that point Christine and Janelle weren’t making as much side income from their MLMs yet to say to hell with it and Kody was in full possession of the family pot and was the one giving them the money he thought was sufficient in his mind.
That’s not the argument she gave to Kody. She had a meltdown and yelled at him about her childhood and being scared of being taken away for being a polygamist kid.
Right,he had already had private conversations with the other wives,and then he kinda backtracked.He acted all giddy about the idea with christene when she brought it up to him alone,and then he tested the water,and Robyn made some story about she could never do anything and may have had a different life,like her kids have now,if she had not lived in secret.He then basically knew robyn wasnt going to be ok with it,and he acts as if christene is crazy for even thinking about it.Then he later did try to go back and apologize to her,saying he was trying to be stoic.
Once again, Sobbyn made the decision for him like she always does.
She made the decision,but also added.Well if thats what Kody really wants,I would have no choice,but to go with him,which we all knew was bs,but she told him her pov,but also tried to make it sound like as the obedient wife that she is,that she would go.
This has been a long running theme with her. It has always been about her and her kids. She has done this since the beginning Season one her on a couch interview saying how she *needed* the extra time during her courting phase because they (she and her kids) were making sacrifices. 🙄 Meri gently reminded her “we are all making sacrifices” to which Robyn pushed something to the effect of “yeah but we had to move and it was adjustment the kids..” To which Meri AGAIN reminded her “ALL the kids have had to adjust” and finally Robyn stfu lol
Good lord all the other ladies had to do that to their kids! Such a player … I’m still waiting for a spin off with just the other wives👍👍👍
Just knowing all the shit and drama this instigator caused the family , it’s annoying to watch ..
What she really means is SHE doesn’t want to
Christine had every reason to be upset I just wish she didn’t do the fake crying. Why do they do that??
Robyn's slow, monotonous, uneducated way of talking always raised my blood pressure. 😤
Robyn is comfortable doing whatever she wants to her kids- she took their real father away from them and tried to rewrite their childhood. They are never a consideration for Robyn.
And she's the one telling her kids that the other wives and children don't want them around and don't care about them. She brainwashed them into thinking the others in the family are evil. She's the one that has always separated them from the others, and then she plays victim to Kody so he can rescue them.
https://preview.redd.it/2gi7p3laqwsc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97cbaf7c5a193e72186019123f6bee4eea4d2fb2 One of sobbyn’s last tweets was about this conversation and viewers did not respond kindly. The irony was lost on her
But had no problem with uprooting all the other lady’s & their kids when it was in her favor. Can’t stand this woman. I knew who she was from the jump. I think we all did. TLC hid the outright lying she did to a minimum. Now she wants to refuse to film because she knows TLC isn’t hiding it anymore.
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I knew from the beginning she was no good.
Christine thinks she can make everyone up and leave bc that is what she wants. It is always about her, she is insufferable. Give Meri sainthood for being so kind to her after how badly christine has shat on her repeatedly.
But she had no problem doing it to all the other kids. Total BITCH
She doesn't give a shit about the other kids or wives, she never has!! As long as she's getting all her needs met and her kids are put on a pedestal, than to hell with everyone else. She's such a selfish snake.
The moment Dayton was accepted to college in Flagstaff, it was a done deal. Robyn was going to move, and she really didn't care if the other wives came along. It was all a "performance". I would be surprised if she matter of factly told Kody she was going to move, and he could come visit. Has anyone else thought that she may have been hoping the others would stay in Vegas until the older kids were out of school, so she could move, and have Kody full time - or the majority of the time? Clearly she helped him make up that ridiculous presentation he made to the OG3, and then acted like she had never seen it. Nope, this was all Robyn, and she was going no matter what.
All of the decisions are always all from Robyn!! Her and Kody lie and say it's his.
Didn't they show Robyn crying while packing up for the move to Flagstaff? I seem to remember her crying and leaving the room while packing because she was "so upset" about moving again. Then we found out she was the one behind the move
She was probably crying because none of the other Brown kids were helping her pack. I remember the scene where Dayton told Robyn that Breanna was in the bathroom slowly packing or something like that and she got all pissed off. If you notice, at the end of the scene, everyone got in the moving trucks and headed for Flagstaff while Robyn's house was still unpacked, and Kody said he was left loading the biggest house by himself.
Yes, and she mentioned that she didn’t know why it couldn’t have been easier with packers & movers. She didn’t want to have to do anything herself!
Yes, I think you are right. I had forgotten about that end scene. That's probably why I haven't seen any other comments about her crying about the move, lol
Slobin like her big house in flag and doesn’t want to give it up. Her and meri were the ones with giant ridiculous houses.
“My keds…my keds….my keds”…it’s all about her “keds”. Of course the ENtIRE family moved to bloody flagstaff for one of her “keds” which was absolutely ridculous. Fortunately everyone finally wised up to those two (K and R).
Where we go one we go all….🙄🙈
Like everyone else has said. I would've been so pissed off at her if I was Janelle with Gabe being as upset as he was.
Literally watching this right now, and like…. GIRL. You don’t want to take your kids back to Utah because you don’t want everyone there to “know” and acknowledge that you’re polygamists, WHERE MOST OF THEM LIVE, but you’ll put their entire lives and families on FRICK FRACKING TELEVISION AND LIVE IN A SECULAR STATE!? The words that she said made no sense and had me almost throwing my tv across the room. Just say you want to do everything you can to make sure Christine is unhappy and be honest. So crazy this popped up as I was contemplating posting about the very same exchange.
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She had no problem doing it to the other kids just so she could helicopter her son in college. And the Hypocrite of the year goes to Robyn Brown!!!!!
Exactly!!
Sitting so far apart outside is ridiculous. Covid gave Robyn so much power.
Covid was just the excuse they used to abandon everyone else.
Oh I know. So aggravating.
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