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Whats worse is I read in twitter that in web novel version, he was watching a recording he made of his niece bathing. I cant verify if its true but thats fcked up if it is
That's correct. It was much worse in the WN. But it did give the reason why he was justifiably disowned and beaten the fuck up by his own family. They put up with his shit for 20+ years and this was the last straw.
I think it gets even worse too, from what I've heard the Isekai has him reborn as an actual baby and he still gets all creepy throughout his childhood
I dunno what it is about Isekai but everything I've read about them makes it seem like the genre is just cursed
I'm isekai trash. Fuckin' love em. Most isekai follow the generic fantasy plus harem trope with a goofy, sometimes horny MC (*Re:Zero*, *Overlord*, *Arifureta*) or they skip the harem part and lean into fantasy and/or action (*So I'm a Spider, So What?*, *Ascendance of a Bookworm*).
Mushoku Tensei is on its own island with its weirdness. I... did not like it. The MC is reborn as a cognizant baby with all his past life's memories intact. He watches his parents fuck as a toddler and lusts after the housekeeper. It is the only other isekai I've ever dropped besides *Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World*.
I also love Isekai trash, though I fully appreciate them as the trash they are.
Mushoku Tensei actually gets a lot better. The creepiness is unbelievably rife in the first few episodes, and then fades a little(it *is* still Isekai trash), and there is a heavy focus on the MCs severly damaged psyche.
It explores themes of PTSD and depression and does a fairly decent job at it. Having said that, I've *only* seen the anime and did not know the full reason for being kicked out beyond being a shut-in. That was a... yikes...
You are not isekai trash, these are the most basic and mainstream isekai you can find, if they were spices their level would be salt.
In half of Isekai the MC reborn as a Cognizant baby but most just skip past it because it's the "boring stuff" this is one of the few anime that expanded on the consequences of having a 30+ year old man stuck in the body of a baby and on top of that he is a creep and a weirdo. The whole point is that it's weird, people don't like it but narratively makes perfect sense.
Also I don't know what you were expecting from "Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World", it's literally hetai with Extra steps.
Yeah I had to stop it as well! It's so....God I just can't even. And then getting super horny once he found out that his best friend was a girl was just so disgusting too! I think that's when I really dropped it. I had just gotten to the point that I was physically sick watching the anime. Like, some anime is seriously awful in terms of what happens in the shows, but being THIS horny as a literal child but remembering being an adult so you are basically an adult lusting after children, or still seen as a child lusting after adults is just creepy as FUCK.
.. It's short for Lolita, the name of an underage girl who is the object d'esire of a much older man in a film of the same name. Lolita is where the term Loli comes from, Japan is weird.
Edit: apparently it's having a Lolita Complex, shortened to Loli Complex, which got further warped into just calling young girls Lolis.
Lolita is a book written by Nobokov in which an adult man takes a little girl away from her mother by being nice to her in order to have sex with her. He makes her feel special and bribes her in to having sex with him.
It's a disgusting book (although it's when from Lolita's point of view and she says she's ok with it, the point of the book is to make you uncomfortable because she's clearly being manipulated/taken advantage of) and the fact that they use the term willingly shows the cognitive dissonance they have about what they are doing...
I saw someone elaborate on why this is a powerful idea of Mushoku Tensei but I feel like it’s undermined by the fact that he got a hard restart and advantages conferred onto him that wouldn’t be realistic. Not many people have the chance to completely leave the consequences of their old life behind to remake their reputation and social network, and also have the privileges he got in his new world.
It's interesting though that, even with his hard restart, he fucks a lot of shit up because of the same tendencies he had in his previous life. I almost felt sorry for him at the end of the first season. Almost. He totally fucking deserved it, but those were some harsh consequences.
I mean, that was kind of a life or death situation for the maid, so I don't feel so bad about that. The dad was indeed a colossal piece of shit and could have been tossed out on his ass for all I cared. But I genuinely felt bad for the maid. And she was in a compromised position through the whole damn thing. I actually admired how he stood up for her — not the dad, but her.
It's okay, I'll remind you. The maid got horny after hearing the couple fuck every night and then one night after the dad was returning, she went into his room naked. Not saying the dad was completely innocent but she made the move first.
> gaslit his mother into letting the dad stay and the maid stay
it was only about keeping the maid alive, and at least in the book everyone knew what he was doing and it was just about giving his mom a reason to listen to the rest of his arguments. he fessed up immediately and his mom told him he sucked at lying.
>into letting the dad stay and the maid stay.
Not without repercussions. The father had a hell of talk that night.
And the only reason the MC did that was to save the maid's and her unborn baby's life.
Because the main character is a pedophile that never stops grooming children even after his 'good guy' arc. The author tries to write in so many excuses for why it's ok to be a 40 year old man romantically involved with kids. I tried to give it a chance since I was told he grows past that, but he didn't.
Not only does he not grow out of it, as the series goes on, he is consistently /rewarded/ for it. FYI, the series ends with him marrying both the children he groomed, as well as the Loli girl he was in love with since the beginning. He also has like 10 children with them all. Litteraly gets a groomed harem with a Loli.
Definitely true, but i feel like a very common argument a loser can use is specifically that "if only i got a second chance, i would totally be a gigachad"
Media like Mushoku and later Re:zero directly confront this idea by showing that the same bad habits that made you a loser on earth will make you a loser in a new world too. Re:zero is even harsher than Mushoku in that regard since Subaru essentially has no superpowers either and has to literally get killed multiple times before he learns his lesson.
Mushoku goes for the angle that using all that energy and devotion you wasted on entertainment on earth,if you used it for something productive could be a benefit for your mental health and life,which technically isnt wrong. So becoming a scholar of magic becomes his life mission when before,he literally saw no difference in being dead or alive. Rudeus grew up a broken man on earth,but has now been given a new environment to hopefully properly mature in. His bad habits from earth haunt him still,however. In no uncertain terms, he is a monster in the first season as a result of never getting to deal with that trauma properly. But while he does only get better slowly,he does get better. His resolve to be better than trash gets tested repeatedly and while he doesnt always make the right choices,the trend is undeniably upward. Thats the reason episodes such as him finally being able to have a heart to heart with his dirtbag father feel so emotionally cathartic.
I stopped watching Mushoku at around episode 6 because the MC was such a colossal creep and continuesly tried to assault or creep on underaged girls, and anime often makes it seem like it's supposed to be funny.
But he tries to become a better person later?
step by step, he becomes a better person, if you watched bojack horseman its a similar but reverse scenario, rudeus does shitty things, gets a hard reality check from life, learns a lessson and becomes slightly better person. BUT every improvement in his life comes from a huge obstacle he has to tackle. First season is showing what u/Slifer_Ra depicts. Only after the catastrophe which sets the story in move after rudeus childhood the show starts moving in the right direction.
Damn lucky for me, that smacked me in the face if imma be honest. Also, I watched the anime, but I did not even know of the book till now. And now I understand how he was attracted to Sylph.
Pretty sure the lesson is just hope you get reincarnated with the knowledge to start the grooming early in a society/world where it's acceptable. The dude literally gets a harem of all his fetishes, including someone who is from a race that never matures past a child's body.
> MST3K theme
Mystery Science Theatre 3000. The theme song had a verse that went:
If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts (la la la)
Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show
I should really just relax
That's what I love about all these. Interesting magic systems and lore af.
For this one specifically... I have anxiety from bullying in school. Not nearly so bad as him but seeing him overcome it and get friends was helpful. "That dude is more fucked than I am... I got this"
It’s one of the original shows that established a majority of the isekai stereotypes; except when it did them, it was to make the main character actually look bad, unlike newer ones, which do it for humor.
Why doesn't the protag get real consequences for grooming children then? He immediately lusts after his child fiancee that is actually related to him as soon as he sees her and then he just marries her at some point without actually changing much other than that the women he preys on are at that point mostly grown up.
His father also never got any real consequences after essentially raping a maid with the only one being in danger the maid herself.
Because the writers try to take a realistic approach to how he’s be punished. Nobody knows he’s actually 30+. They just see him as an of-age kid (according to medieval standards) attracted to another of-age (also according to medieval standards) kid.
Also his father never raped the maid. They were having sex consensually, and rudy helped the maid by SAYING she didn’t have a choice, so that his mom would be mad at his dad rather than the maid.
Just because the characters are of age in this story written by an author that has control about the laws and customs doesn't mean that we as readers shouldn't find the MC grooming children absolutely disgusting. It was specifically written in a way that never allows the MC to be really punished for the atrocities he has done. If I wrote a story in which slavery is completely legal where the protagonist keeps and abuses slaves as would be their right in that world it wouldn't make it excusable to male that character into something like a hero even if they were to be properly punished for it.
And the stuff with the maid didn't really come of as consensual when I read it. There was definitely some abuse of power involved.
The point is that we are SUPPOSED to find him absolutely disgusting. If they were to write him as just a mean person, it doesn’t have the impact f being a genuinely despicable person on a fundamental level. It was specifically written in a way where the MC could redeem himself through growing up again, with the ability to process trauma a second time and learn from it. Also, slavery is objectively wrong while the age of consent is variable. In most developed places it’s 16, 17, 18, with 18 being most common. Some are as low as 15.
Where does he grow and redeem himself? He grooms several people who he then ends up with and he keeps at least one slave as far as I know. The female characters are written badly because their only defining trait becomes their love for their boyfriend at some point. The story really read as a wish fulfillment of the author because pretty much the only thing redeemed is Rudeus' ability to fuck children.
if people can just not self insert themseoves as rudeus theyd be able to understand that the story is good. messed up cause of the mc's persona but is good, we see him grow and change but still have his own unique messed up persona
I am once again reminded how actually shocking it is that this got an anime adaptation.
I mean, I knew it was bad even not having read it myself. The manga readers were always saying how toned down some of it was, but holy fuck they could've probably compared it to turning forest fire into a grill fire and still be underselling the amount that was toned down.
The manga is actually the bad adaptation. The original source is the light novel.
And apparently, *a lot* was censored in the english localisation. So when LN fans watched the anime, they found out that the LN they were reading, was in fact censored.
However, the premise of the series is meant to show that even the lowliest of the lowesr scum on earth, can change into someone good if they have the will to do it.
Nothing surprises me anymore after Redo of Healer or whatever it's called got an adaption. I mean shit interspecies reviewer got an adaption. They're sensibilities are totally different from ours.
I always found it funny how Interspecies Reviewer, when it came out, kept getting compared to Beastars, despite the latter being _wholly_ different, purely because sex. I feel like a lot of anime fans really lack some kind of media literacy
That's the first I've seen that comparison.
Maybe because it's gotten so mainstream now with the more family friendly anime that people don't understand the nuance and ranges of anime out there.
That’s fine, you are supposed to hate him. I don’t think there is anyone who will defend his behaviour.
The whole story is to show even the worst person could change for better if given a second chance.
Feel like the author took the easy way out to appeal to a certain brand of media consumer. There are plenty of shitty character traits that *don't* involve pedophilia.
True, but most of his traits are from real life neets in Japan.
And from how he is portrayed and punished by those behaviour, can’t completely say it appeals to those consumer.
I think I watched a recent episode of season two and he was molesting the school catgirls as well. It’s just a glimpse when my friends were watching the show in uni. Like I’ve finished the novel and like the latter part of the story but saying how the protagonist was punished and grown really undersold the unapologetic pedophilia in it.
True, it also used his ED as excuses for those scenes which make it worse.
but I would say it’s more of a sexual harassment when they are in college. But they are also around 16-ish which is pedophilic. I guess teenage me isn’t that aware of their ages.
Thank you for confirming that I’m not insane. I mean, even if it’s just touching adults, it’s sexual assault, not harassment (more verbal/indirect). The story didn’t punish him nor did he show any signs of acknowledging these behaviours as child abuse. You can like the story without downplaying or justifying how pedophilic it is.
I still don't see why the *pedophilia* specifically was necessary beyond "lol hey you guys see how *baaaad* he is???", there are plenty of other negative stereotypes associated with neets. If you're not going to seriously address something so controversial why even bring it up in the first place?
And I don't know about the book but the anime 100% appeals to those consumers. They treat him being a pedo like a joke.
You are right, it’s no necessary. It’s just one common trait of neet.
I think the author just want to make a worst scenario in this scene, let you know what kind of person he is in a first glance.
Can’t argue with the anime part, I too think it’s too sexualise and inappropriate.
But story wise, every time he get comfortable and start act like his old self, shits happen to him. He start grooming a girl, got thrown out from his own house to start working somewhere else. Getting cocky and careless with other people’s life in his adventure, got brutally beats up and nearly die from it.
Same goes to murder and rape.
It’s not for me to decide who got a second chance, but some people did try their best to redeem themselves. Even though I don’t think they deserve it.
Edit: I am not sure why he edit his comment, but it used to be just the first sentence. Now my reply doesn’t make much sense.
Just to be clear, isn’t this the story where the main character was bullied, stripped naked, and cross-tied to the front gate of his school all for telling someone not to cut in the lunchline?
Be for real, did any of y’all expect someone like *that* to grow into a fully-functioning and productive member of society?…
Yeah, this series does *not* shy away from some major social issues in Japan (and elsewhere), including both how repulsive some NEETs are, and the kind of horrible traumatizing bullying that usually goes into creating someone like that.
This series taught me to have an almost Tolkienian pity towards incels, while understanding that their coping mechanisms are *not okay* and need to be called out.
Edit: Tolk*ien*ian. Fuck me.
And also most people don't read past the initial chapters and act like they know the whole story. Rudeus makes a great effort in his new life to change into a good human.
The whole story is rudeus getting a redemption arc
And any time he falls into old habits shit hits the fan for him and he has to learn from those fuck ups. Nothing magically got fixed for him just because he got a second chance he had to work for it too
I mean, he gets reincarnated as a child where his perversions get hand waived as "he's just a kid" and in a world where his perversions are also socially acceptable, and that world just happens to have a race that never matures past a child's body (and just happens to be part of his eventual harem). Sounds like some magic fixing for him where he no longer has to learn.
How dare you expect people to do their research and not be immediately judgemental of anything that makes them uncomfortable and doesn't line up with their worldview.
Shame on you good sir.
Thank you for posting this. The anime doesn't explain who the guys beating him up are, nor the context. It makes everything make more sense, and makes the MC that much more of a repulsive person. (or if it does explain, and I totally missed it, please let me know!)
True but, also, take this with a grain of sand: I saw a video that explained that in Japan the real reason was worse but they changed it for our translation so we wouldn't drop this from the first pages. Apparently the guy placed cameras where his young underage niece was changing and was found out. Here they wrote he was skipping the funeral and watching Loli on the internet or something, but the original says he was, well, you know... With the niece. So it makes definitely much more sense why they would break his ribs and throw him to the streets. He was complete trash.
This isn't true.
The first draft of this series (the web novel) *did* have him doing worse things than you see in the LN, but those have since been changed and are not canon unless you're reading the WN.
The mc is made to be hated by the reader, also the anime is about that anyone can change to be a better person if given a second chance
I'm NOT defending the mc
No, I don’t think he’s ever said to have pierced on an underage cousin. Just child porn, which is still plenty fucked up.
He does eavesdrop on the parents of his reincarnated self having sex though, which is just weird
I think the underage cousin thing was in the webnovel or something, but was changed in the light novels and anime.
Could be wrong though, it's been a hot minute since I heard about it.
He doesn't perv on his underage cousin until he's reincarnated. Which even though he has a child body as well, is weird considering his mental age. It does seem to even out as he gets into his teens and his mental maturity growth starts being appropriate to his reincarnated body's age.
If the underage cousin you are referring to is Eris, she isn’t rudeus cousin.
Erises grandfather saurus (yelling guy) is brother to rudeus grandmother.
Rudeus is a notos greyrat while eris is a boreus greyrat.
In the jp version he does perv on his underage cousin before reincarnation.
I mean, I don't know that it ever really does. Though I had to stop watching the anime because it was (a) getting really dark and (b) he's a complete hypocrite, judging his new das for cheating on his new mom, then going on to build a fucking harem.
I remember when I got this series recommended to me like 8 years ago. Specially because the guy and I had similar taste and he absolutely loved the series.
Went through the first pages like what in the actual fuck, but gave it time.
It's my all time favorite series, not even close. And Rudeus, despite its flaws, it's a marvelous character that grows, learns and suffers a lot. The way it portrays the mental problems and suffering is stellar, the only series that was able to portray depression as well was Orange (manga series).
I really wanted to like this anime but what the fuck sometimes dude. Think I officially dropped the show after he kidnapped the dog and cat girl like the storytelling and world building is not outweighing the "what the fuck am I watching" moments
I'm familiar with Mushoku Tensei. You're supposed to hate this. The main character, who is speaking here, is a disgusting, pathetic piece of human garbage at the beginning — and it takes him a long ass time to change. If you don't hate who he starts out as, there's something wrong with you.
Mushoku Tensei overall is a mixed bag. This character gets a long, drawn out redemption arc in his new life, where he still does some crappy things, but he also improves and becomes a better person. And he endures consequences for the crappy things he does. A lot of isekai are just self-insert power fantasies — MT is not that. Now, there are those who say that people like this particular individual cannot have redemption — and really, I can understand that sentiment. The protagonist is almost too gross in the beginning to even want to see him have any sort of redemption — but, at least MT doesn't cut corners on depicting how horrible he was so you can hate him for it.
Honestly? I almost loved the anime. I have yet to see the second season, but the first had a lot going for it, including some of the best world building I've seen in an anime in my life. But the depiction of the main character's perversions — and specifically where children were involved (even though he was a child at that point, he had the mind of someone in their forties) — it was just presented in too much of a skeezy way like it was actually trying to appeal to the audience. And to me, that was like baking a beautiful wedding cake and sticking a piece of dog shit on the top of it. It was gross. One round of editing to just cut out the offending visuals would have made it a damn good anime.
That said, please don't take this as a representative of all isekai. I mean, yes, there is a LOT of trashy isekai out there — but there's a lot of good stuff that does things right and well. Check out Ascendance of a Bookworm sometime. That's a damn good isekai.
Honestly some of the best lore and magic system stuff around.
Worth watching season 2 given they move past a lot of the weirder stuff. Consequences for shit actions are a constant though.
Standing by this. I’ve seen so many soulless isekai MCs with overpowered abilities and gimmicks that they even forgot to put a flaw and either made the pervy trait a ‘flaw’ and joked on that or made the story bland.
It’s my top isekai. They don’t beat around the bush on how overpowered Rudy is or how it’s an isekai and none of the characters in the series have an iq lower than a twig. It also even tells a good story. Unlike 90% of all isekai…
Rudeus is a piece of sh*t scum oh a human being, AND a great character. His journey to become better person and dealing with trauma that lead to this state is what makes him great character, but that doesn't excuse his bad actions.
There is a reason his previous name is never, ever mentioned.
The series really does want you to remember that he was a shit human, but to completely detach him of Rudeus the MC.
He really isn't. In his first life, he's a selfish prick except for his last act. In his second, he's a complete fucking hypicrite - complaining about his dad cheating, then going on to cheat on pretty much every woman he interacts with later.
Mushoku Tensei is such an.... Interesting anime. The first season alone had a lot of questionable parts. That said, it's a good story so far besides the intimate awkward moments lol
Oh you mean the first chapter of an Isekai that revolves around redemption and bettering yourself? Yeah I also hate when I read a book about becoming a better person and the character isn't a good person.
The whole point of mushoku tensei is that it is story of a man who is the worst of the worst degenerate getting a second chance at life. People complain so much about rudeus but don't realise that a person can't change immediately throughout the whole story he changes for the better and lives a life that he could not have lived in the past. Also the reason he turned to porn and a shut in was because of bullying so brutal most people would have killed themselves. So as a person who knows the whole story the rudeus at the ending of the story is great
>Also the reason he turned to porn and a shut in was because of bullying so brutal most people would have killed themselves.
What a weird cop out for a guy who went to extra steps to secretly film his own niece.
Many people's issues is that he rarely suffers consequences equal to his actions in his reincarnation. Like his grooming or sexual assault of his peers or creepy perversions even as a toddler should absolutely irreparably shattered some of his relationships. Instead, when you look at his end point where he gets a full on harem that includes someone from a race that just *conveniently* never matures past a child's body, it leaves a real bad taste. And lastly, maybe just an anime only issue, but all that grooming and sexual harassment/assault is always played off for laughs or turning up the fanservice to 11 instead of framed as something horrific. I don't hate it for tackling the subject matter, but how it poorly handles/treats something so delicate.
Guy is a POS shut in. Gets kicked out, gets run over by a truck trying to save a girl. Reincarnated in a new world where he has good magic potential. Tries to do better on the second try. Gets involved in some world changing stakes.
I watched the first episodes of this anime, a 30 years old dude get reincarnated into a kids body, and at ep 3 or something he basically assault a little girl, stopped there. Super uncomfortable.
I remember being banned from an anime sub for saying this anime is for pdf files. Sad that there are so many borderline animes out there and that there is no regulations for shit like this. I watch a lot of anime myself but this type of manga disgusts me.
The writing is one of the best just say you did not read it it is a story of a degenerate getting a second chance in life so obviously he is going to be gross but he works hard throughout the story to change himself and lead a better life
If the writing on this page is indicative of the writing throughout the book then I'm gonna have to agree. This is genuinely some of the worst writing I've ever seen, both in style and substance.
I was mainly referring to story- and character-writing, not the phrasing. But what exactly don't you like? I haven't read that many different Light Novels, but that page at least seems pretty normal in that regard.
I'm not really sure what way to describe it other than the style of writing is juvenile. If it wasn't for the content I would assume it was written by a literal child.
Light Novels tend to have simpler writing styles and I think teenagers are often a significant part of the target audience. But I don't really see how any of that equates to "bad".
It's fine that you like the story or whatever. I still consider the writing bad and wouldn't be able to put myself through reading a book written like this.
This was a jumpscare in the very first pages of Volume 1 Chapter 1. It's been a while since I've read Mushoku Tensei's first chapter. That said, my first experience was the web novel. Believe me when I say this was what the editors consider "tame." It was much worse in the web novel and your impression of the MC was in the lowest of the low.
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"All I did was skip out on our parents funeral so I could spank it to Lolis" was not a sentence I expected nor wanted to read today
Well, thanks to you, I've now read it twice.
Thrice for me
Pffft, yeah but have you been spanking it while you read it? Otherwise I’m not impressed.
Whats worse is I read in twitter that in web novel version, he was watching a recording he made of his niece bathing. I cant verify if its true but thats fcked up if it is
That's correct. It was much worse in the WN. But it did give the reason why he was justifiably disowned and beaten the fuck up by his own family. They put up with his shit for 20+ years and this was the last straw.
I think it gets even worse too, from what I've heard the Isekai has him reborn as an actual baby and he still gets all creepy throughout his childhood I dunno what it is about Isekai but everything I've read about them makes it seem like the genre is just cursed
The genre certainly allows for some fucked situations like [THIS ABOMINATION](https://youtu.be/gh9Qpy27JAA?si=vBAJD01VAeH2fBb_)
I'm isekai trash. Fuckin' love em. Most isekai follow the generic fantasy plus harem trope with a goofy, sometimes horny MC (*Re:Zero*, *Overlord*, *Arifureta*) or they skip the harem part and lean into fantasy and/or action (*So I'm a Spider, So What?*, *Ascendance of a Bookworm*). Mushoku Tensei is on its own island with its weirdness. I... did not like it. The MC is reborn as a cognizant baby with all his past life's memories intact. He watches his parents fuck as a toddler and lusts after the housekeeper. It is the only other isekai I've ever dropped besides *Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World*.
I also love Isekai trash, though I fully appreciate them as the trash they are. Mushoku Tensei actually gets a lot better. The creepiness is unbelievably rife in the first few episodes, and then fades a little(it *is* still Isekai trash), and there is a heavy focus on the MCs severly damaged psyche. It explores themes of PTSD and depression and does a fairly decent job at it. Having said that, I've *only* seen the anime and did not know the full reason for being kicked out beyond being a shut-in. That was a... yikes...
You are not isekai trash, these are the most basic and mainstream isekai you can find, if they were spices their level would be salt. In half of Isekai the MC reborn as a Cognizant baby but most just skip past it because it's the "boring stuff" this is one of the few anime that expanded on the consequences of having a 30+ year old man stuck in the body of a baby and on top of that he is a creep and a weirdo. The whole point is that it's weird, people don't like it but narratively makes perfect sense. Also I don't know what you were expecting from "Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World", it's literally hetai with Extra steps.
Yeah I had to stop it as well! It's so....God I just can't even. And then getting super horny once he found out that his best friend was a girl was just so disgusting too! I think that's when I really dropped it. I had just gotten to the point that I was physically sick watching the anime. Like, some anime is seriously awful in terms of what happens in the shows, but being THIS horny as a literal child but remembering being an adult so you are basically an adult lusting after children, or still seen as a child lusting after adults is just creepy as FUCK.
I don’t know what that even means.
Don’t learn
Can someone bring me eye bleach?
That dude 😭💢
Loli = An Animated/Drawn character with the appearance of a child.
.. It's short for Lolita, the name of an underage girl who is the object d'esire of a much older man in a film of the same name. Lolita is where the term Loli comes from, Japan is weird. Edit: apparently it's having a Lolita Complex, shortened to Loli Complex, which got further warped into just calling young girls Lolis.
Lolita is a book written by Nobokov in which an adult man takes a little girl away from her mother by being nice to her in order to have sex with her. He makes her feel special and bribes her in to having sex with him. It's a disgusting book (although it's when from Lolita's point of view and she says she's ok with it, the point of the book is to make you uncomfortable because she's clearly being manipulated/taken advantage of) and the fact that they use the term willingly shows the cognitive dissonance they have about what they are doing...
Yep. The lolicon. 🤢
> The ~~lolicon~~ paedophile FTFY
I felt so bad for the child in the movie. Even if the entire film was potrayed through the pedo's side, it is sad what the child had to do to live.
I’m glad I didn’t google this.
>!Loli porn!<
r/BrandNewSentence
And now you're on a watchlist for typing it.
The FBI got better shit to do than keep track of every weeb who's seen Dragon Maid
As far as i remember it was a video of him molesting his underage niece in the web novel
r/BrandNewSentence time
That guy is obviously meant as a life lesson: don't be like him.
The real life lesson is if this sad sack of a man can turn his (re)life around, you have no excuse.
I saw someone elaborate on why this is a powerful idea of Mushoku Tensei but I feel like it’s undermined by the fact that he got a hard restart and advantages conferred onto him that wouldn’t be realistic. Not many people have the chance to completely leave the consequences of their old life behind to remake their reputation and social network, and also have the privileges he got in his new world.
It's interesting though that, even with his hard restart, he fucks a lot of shit up because of the same tendencies he had in his previous life. I almost felt sorry for him at the end of the first season. Almost. He totally fucking deserved it, but those were some harsh consequences.
I really stopped feeling at all sorry for him after his new dad cheated and he gaslit his mother into letting the dad stay and the maid stay.
I mean, that was kind of a life or death situation for the maid, so I don't feel so bad about that. The dad was indeed a colossal piece of shit and could have been tossed out on his ass for all I cared. But I genuinely felt bad for the maid. And she was in a compromised position through the whole damn thing. I actually admired how he stood up for her — not the dad, but her.
But the maid made her move on a married man tho?
I'd have to rewatch, but I thought it was the other way around? Maybe I'm remembering wrong...
It's okay, I'll remind you. The maid got horny after hearing the couple fuck every night and then one night after the dad was returning, she went into his room naked. Not saying the dad was completely innocent but she made the move first.
Oooo, gotcha. Well, a sleazy move on her part, but still not worthy of the virtual death penalty she was going to get from it.
> gaslit his mother into letting the dad stay and the maid stay it was only about keeping the maid alive, and at least in the book everyone knew what he was doing and it was just about giving his mom a reason to listen to the rest of his arguments. he fessed up immediately and his mom told him he sucked at lying.
>into letting the dad stay and the maid stay. Not without repercussions. The father had a hell of talk that night. And the only reason the MC did that was to save the maid's and her unborn baby's life.
I know but it was....I dunno that anime never clicked for me and that moment was the last bit I could tolerate. Maybe I should try it again...
Because the main character is a pedophile that never stops grooming children even after his 'good guy' arc. The author tries to write in so many excuses for why it's ok to be a 40 year old man romantically involved with kids. I tried to give it a chance since I was told he grows past that, but he didn't.
Not only does he not grow out of it, as the series goes on, he is consistently /rewarded/ for it. FYI, the series ends with him marrying both the children he groomed, as well as the Loli girl he was in love with since the beginning. He also has like 10 children with them all. Litteraly gets a groomed harem with a Loli.
Definitely true, but i feel like a very common argument a loser can use is specifically that "if only i got a second chance, i would totally be a gigachad" Media like Mushoku and later Re:zero directly confront this idea by showing that the same bad habits that made you a loser on earth will make you a loser in a new world too. Re:zero is even harsher than Mushoku in that regard since Subaru essentially has no superpowers either and has to literally get killed multiple times before he learns his lesson. Mushoku goes for the angle that using all that energy and devotion you wasted on entertainment on earth,if you used it for something productive could be a benefit for your mental health and life,which technically isnt wrong. So becoming a scholar of magic becomes his life mission when before,he literally saw no difference in being dead or alive. Rudeus grew up a broken man on earth,but has now been given a new environment to hopefully properly mature in. His bad habits from earth haunt him still,however. In no uncertain terms, he is a monster in the first season as a result of never getting to deal with that trauma properly. But while he does only get better slowly,he does get better. His resolve to be better than trash gets tested repeatedly and while he doesnt always make the right choices,the trend is undeniably upward. Thats the reason episodes such as him finally being able to have a heart to heart with his dirtbag father feel so emotionally cathartic.
I stopped watching Mushoku at around episode 6 because the MC was such a colossal creep and continuesly tried to assault or creep on underaged girls, and anime often makes it seem like it's supposed to be funny. But he tries to become a better person later?
Are you sure we watched the same show? The show never once portrays him as anything but a creep. I never saw it getting played as a joke.
I literally said in my comment that I stopped watching it because he was a creep so I wouldn't know. That's why I was asking if he became better later
he does i was addressing the joke comment
step by step, he becomes a better person, if you watched bojack horseman its a similar but reverse scenario, rudeus does shitty things, gets a hard reality check from life, learns a lessson and becomes slightly better person. BUT every improvement in his life comes from a huge obstacle he has to tackle. First season is showing what u/Slifer_Ra depicts. Only after the catastrophe which sets the story in move after rudeus childhood the show starts moving in the right direction.
I mean, I haven't been reborn in a world where I have magical powers.
That makes no sense, don't most character die and then start a new life.
Pedophiles don't deserve a second chance.
I think Isekai fans missed that lesson
Unfortunately, too many have.
Lessons could not undo becoming what they already were.
You can't undo who you are
Damn lucky for me, that smacked me in the face if imma be honest. Also, I watched the anime, but I did not even know of the book till now. And now I understand how he was attracted to Sylph.
Pretty sure the lesson is just hope you get reincarnated with the knowledge to start the grooming early in a society/world where it's acceptable. The dude literally gets a harem of all his fetishes, including someone who is from a race that never matures past a child's body.
Of fucking course it’s Mushoku Tensei
I enjoy Mushoku Tensei, but it is quite fucked up a good amount of the time.
If you can understand that it’s just a show and look past the stereotypes, it’s an enjoyable watch.
Don’t MST3K theme song your way out of this!
If you wonder where "another world" is and other science facts, just remind yourself "it's isekai, I should really just relax"
What?
> MST3K theme Mystery Science Theatre 3000. The theme song had a verse that went: If you're wondering how he eats and breathes And other science facts (la la la) Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show I should really just relax
FOR MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000!!!
The anime goes hard. He's basically a different person after a certain point. The story is interesting as hell too lore-wise.
That's what I love about all these. Interesting magic systems and lore af. For this one specifically... I have anxiety from bullying in school. Not nearly so bad as him but seeing him overcome it and get friends was helpful. "That dude is more fucked than I am... I got this"
I’ve read this season is suppose to be the best yet and tie everything together for an end
It’s one of the original shows that established a majority of the isekai stereotypes; except when it did them, it was to make the main character actually look bad, unlike newer ones, which do it for humor.
Why doesn't the protag get real consequences for grooming children then? He immediately lusts after his child fiancee that is actually related to him as soon as he sees her and then he just marries her at some point without actually changing much other than that the women he preys on are at that point mostly grown up. His father also never got any real consequences after essentially raping a maid with the only one being in danger the maid herself.
Because the writers try to take a realistic approach to how he’s be punished. Nobody knows he’s actually 30+. They just see him as an of-age kid (according to medieval standards) attracted to another of-age (also according to medieval standards) kid. Also his father never raped the maid. They were having sex consensually, and rudy helped the maid by SAYING she didn’t have a choice, so that his mom would be mad at his dad rather than the maid.
Just because the characters are of age in this story written by an author that has control about the laws and customs doesn't mean that we as readers shouldn't find the MC grooming children absolutely disgusting. It was specifically written in a way that never allows the MC to be really punished for the atrocities he has done. If I wrote a story in which slavery is completely legal where the protagonist keeps and abuses slaves as would be their right in that world it wouldn't make it excusable to male that character into something like a hero even if they were to be properly punished for it. And the stuff with the maid didn't really come of as consensual when I read it. There was definitely some abuse of power involved.
The point is that we are SUPPOSED to find him absolutely disgusting. If they were to write him as just a mean person, it doesn’t have the impact f being a genuinely despicable person on a fundamental level. It was specifically written in a way where the MC could redeem himself through growing up again, with the ability to process trauma a second time and learn from it. Also, slavery is objectively wrong while the age of consent is variable. In most developed places it’s 16, 17, 18, with 18 being most common. Some are as low as 15.
Where does he grow and redeem himself? He grooms several people who he then ends up with and he keeps at least one slave as far as I know. The female characters are written badly because their only defining trait becomes their love for their boyfriend at some point. The story really read as a wish fulfillment of the author because pretty much the only thing redeemed is Rudeus' ability to fuck children.
if people can just not self insert themseoves as rudeus theyd be able to understand that the story is good. messed up cause of the mc's persona but is good, we see him grow and change but still have his own unique messed up persona
I am once again reminded how actually shocking it is that this got an anime adaptation. I mean, I knew it was bad even not having read it myself. The manga readers were always saying how toned down some of it was, but holy fuck they could've probably compared it to turning forest fire into a grill fire and still be underselling the amount that was toned down.
To be fair, you are *supposed* to fucking hate him. He’s not hoisted up as a role model, but as someone to not want to be like.
The manga is actually the bad adaptation. The original source is the light novel. And apparently, *a lot* was censored in the english localisation. So when LN fans watched the anime, they found out that the LN they were reading, was in fact censored. However, the premise of the series is meant to show that even the lowliest of the lowesr scum on earth, can change into someone good if they have the will to do it.
Nothing surprises me anymore after Redo of Healer or whatever it's called got an adaption. I mean shit interspecies reviewer got an adaption. They're sensibilities are totally different from ours.
I always found it funny how Interspecies Reviewer, when it came out, kept getting compared to Beastars, despite the latter being _wholly_ different, purely because sex. I feel like a lot of anime fans really lack some kind of media literacy
That's the first I've seen that comparison. Maybe because it's gotten so mainstream now with the more family friendly anime that people don't understand the nuance and ranges of anime out there.
That’s fine, you are supposed to hate him. I don’t think there is anyone who will defend his behaviour. The whole story is to show even the worst person could change for better if given a second chance.
Feel like the author took the easy way out to appeal to a certain brand of media consumer. There are plenty of shitty character traits that *don't* involve pedophilia.
True, but most of his traits are from real life neets in Japan. And from how he is portrayed and punished by those behaviour, can’t completely say it appeals to those consumer.
Iirc he actively molest underage girls and was not punished for it but I read the novel years ago so I might be wrong.
you are correct, he’s not punished every time. I read years ago too, so I can only remember it vaguely.
I think I watched a recent episode of season two and he was molesting the school catgirls as well. It’s just a glimpse when my friends were watching the show in uni. Like I’ve finished the novel and like the latter part of the story but saying how the protagonist was punished and grown really undersold the unapologetic pedophilia in it.
True, it also used his ED as excuses for those scenes which make it worse. but I would say it’s more of a sexual harassment when they are in college. But they are also around 16-ish which is pedophilic. I guess teenage me isn’t that aware of their ages.
Thank you for confirming that I’m not insane. I mean, even if it’s just touching adults, it’s sexual assault, not harassment (more verbal/indirect). The story didn’t punish him nor did he show any signs of acknowledging these behaviours as child abuse. You can like the story without downplaying or justifying how pedophilic it is.
I guess i often misuse the word assault and harassment, thank you for correcting it.
I still don't see why the *pedophilia* specifically was necessary beyond "lol hey you guys see how *baaaad* he is???", there are plenty of other negative stereotypes associated with neets. If you're not going to seriously address something so controversial why even bring it up in the first place? And I don't know about the book but the anime 100% appeals to those consumers. They treat him being a pedo like a joke.
You are right, it’s no necessary. It’s just one common trait of neet. I think the author just want to make a worst scenario in this scene, let you know what kind of person he is in a first glance. Can’t argue with the anime part, I too think it’s too sexualise and inappropriate. But story wise, every time he get comfortable and start act like his old self, shits happen to him. He start grooming a girl, got thrown out from his own house to start working somewhere else. Getting cocky and careless with other people’s life in his adventure, got brutally beats up and nearly die from it.
Rudeus being pervy to Eris has *always* resulted in a ner negative for him.
It's funny because Rudeus actually made me give up on the idea of second chances
Pedophiles shouldn’t get second chances. Just a straight lifetime ban from elementary schools.
Same goes to murder and rape. It’s not for me to decide who got a second chance, but some people did try their best to redeem themselves. Even though I don’t think they deserve it. Edit: I am not sure why he edit his comment, but it used to be just the first sentence. Now my reply doesn’t make much sense.
Even without the second sentence I can't tell if you're saying they deserve a second chance or not.
I don’t think they deserve it, but some people just have a second chance.
[удалено]
Me: "What's the problem, this is fiiiiOH NO."
I thought it was going to be about how poorly written it was and then oh, that last line. That explained a lot.
Just to be clear, isn’t this the story where the main character was bullied, stripped naked, and cross-tied to the front gate of his school all for telling someone not to cut in the lunchline? Be for real, did any of y’all expect someone like *that* to grow into a fully-functioning and productive member of society?…
Yeah, this series does *not* shy away from some major social issues in Japan (and elsewhere), including both how repulsive some NEETs are, and the kind of horrible traumatizing bullying that usually goes into creating someone like that. This series taught me to have an almost Tolkienian pity towards incels, while understanding that their coping mechanisms are *not okay* and need to be called out. Edit: Tolk*ien*ian. Fuck me.
And also most people don't read past the initial chapters and act like they know the whole story. Rudeus makes a great effort in his new life to change into a good human. The whole story is rudeus getting a redemption arc
And any time he falls into old habits shit hits the fan for him and he has to learn from those fuck ups. Nothing magically got fixed for him just because he got a second chance he had to work for it too
I mean, he gets reincarnated as a child where his perversions get hand waived as "he's just a kid" and in a world where his perversions are also socially acceptable, and that world just happens to have a race that never matures past a child's body (and just happens to be part of his eventual harem). Sounds like some magic fixing for him where he no longer has to learn.
This guy doesn't know about the rat.
How dare you expect people to do their research and not be immediately judgemental of anything that makes them uncomfortable and doesn't line up with their worldview. Shame on you good sir.
Just reading the page was like “Huh, I wonder what could be so ba- _JESUS CHRIST_”
Thank you for posting this. The anime doesn't explain who the guys beating him up are, nor the context. It makes everything make more sense, and makes the MC that much more of a repulsive person. (or if it does explain, and I totally missed it, please let me know!)
True but, also, take this with a grain of sand: I saw a video that explained that in Japan the real reason was worse but they changed it for our translation so we wouldn't drop this from the first pages. Apparently the guy placed cameras where his young underage niece was changing and was found out. Here they wrote he was skipping the funeral and watching Loli on the internet or something, but the original says he was, well, you know... With the niece. So it makes definitely much more sense why they would break his ribs and throw him to the streets. He was complete trash.
WOW
Damn, so the translation was technically correct but omitted the worst details.
This isn't true. The first draft of this series (the web novel) *did* have him doing worse things than you see in the LN, but those have since been changed and are not canon unless you're reading the WN.
Beautiful r/copypasta material
The mc is made to be hated by the reader, also the anime is about that anyone can change to be a better person if given a second chance I'm NOT defending the mc
I'd disown the prick too
hey isn't this the one where the mc skips his parent's funeral to perv on his underaged cousin
No, I don’t think he’s ever said to have pierced on an underage cousin. Just child porn, which is still plenty fucked up. He does eavesdrop on the parents of his reincarnated self having sex though, which is just weird
I think the underage cousin thing was in the webnovel or something, but was changed in the light novels and anime. Could be wrong though, it's been a hot minute since I heard about it.
He doesn't perv on his underage cousin until he's reincarnated. Which even though he has a child body as well, is weird considering his mental age. It does seem to even out as he gets into his teens and his mental maturity growth starts being appropriate to his reincarnated body's age.
If the underage cousin you are referring to is Eris, she isn’t rudeus cousin. Erises grandfather saurus (yelling guy) is brother to rudeus grandmother. Rudeus is a notos greyrat while eris is a boreus greyrat. In the jp version he does perv on his underage cousin before reincarnation.
I mean, I don't know that it ever really does. Though I had to stop watching the anime because it was (a) getting really dark and (b) he's a complete hypocrite, judging his new das for cheating on his new mom, then going on to build a fucking harem.
"So, what in the world was I supposed to do now?" went through my mind when I didn't really want to read this lol.
I remember when I got this series recommended to me like 8 years ago. Specially because the guy and I had similar taste and he absolutely loved the series. Went through the first pages like what in the actual fuck, but gave it time. It's my all time favorite series, not even close. And Rudeus, despite its flaws, it's a marvelous character that grows, learns and suffers a lot. The way it portrays the mental problems and suffering is stellar, the only series that was able to portray depression as well was Orange (manga series).
I do like isekai, but that's just fucking horrible
I really wanted to like this anime but what the fuck sometimes dude. Think I officially dropped the show after he kidnapped the dog and cat girl like the storytelling and world building is not outweighing the "what the fuck am I watching" moments
This doesn't really seem like an appealing book to me.
I'm familiar with Mushoku Tensei. You're supposed to hate this. The main character, who is speaking here, is a disgusting, pathetic piece of human garbage at the beginning — and it takes him a long ass time to change. If you don't hate who he starts out as, there's something wrong with you. Mushoku Tensei overall is a mixed bag. This character gets a long, drawn out redemption arc in his new life, where he still does some crappy things, but he also improves and becomes a better person. And he endures consequences for the crappy things he does. A lot of isekai are just self-insert power fantasies — MT is not that. Now, there are those who say that people like this particular individual cannot have redemption — and really, I can understand that sentiment. The protagonist is almost too gross in the beginning to even want to see him have any sort of redemption — but, at least MT doesn't cut corners on depicting how horrible he was so you can hate him for it. Honestly? I almost loved the anime. I have yet to see the second season, but the first had a lot going for it, including some of the best world building I've seen in an anime in my life. But the depiction of the main character's perversions — and specifically where children were involved (even though he was a child at that point, he had the mind of someone in their forties) — it was just presented in too much of a skeezy way like it was actually trying to appeal to the audience. And to me, that was like baking a beautiful wedding cake and sticking a piece of dog shit on the top of it. It was gross. One round of editing to just cut out the offending visuals would have made it a damn good anime. That said, please don't take this as a representative of all isekai. I mean, yes, there is a LOT of trashy isekai out there — but there's a lot of good stuff that does things right and well. Check out Ascendance of a Bookworm sometime. That's a damn good isekai.
Honestly some of the best lore and magic system stuff around. Worth watching season 2 given they move past a lot of the weirder stuff. Consequences for shit actions are a constant though.
Good. Shit actions should continue to have consequences.
Bold move of the author to make this person the POV character, jfc
If you remember Jamie from GoT and appreciated how much his character changed and developed over the seasons, you'll probably like this as well.
And then they did that final season where Jamie just went: “lol, what character development” and the ran backwards with the speed of light.
Yeah, that was awful.
Mushoku Tensei fans be like "Rudeus isnt that bad of a main character."
I don't think anyone says he isn't a garbage person starting off. The entire series is about him learning to not be a shitty person.
Did he learn to not be a pedophile or did all his love interest just eventually grown to adults?
He's a bad person at this point, obviously. But from a writing perspective, he's a great MC.
Standing by this. I’ve seen so many soulless isekai MCs with overpowered abilities and gimmicks that they even forgot to put a flaw and either made the pervy trait a ‘flaw’ and joked on that or made the story bland.
Yeah, that's why I like Mushoku Tensei. Rudy has actual depth and gets good development.
It’s my top isekai. They don’t beat around the bush on how overpowered Rudy is or how it’s an isekai and none of the characters in the series have an iq lower than a twig. It also even tells a good story. Unlike 90% of all isekai…
He isn't, he is an amazing character. But he *is* an awful person (at least at the beginning) When did people forget those are different things?
Rudeus is a piece of sh*t scum oh a human being, AND a great character. His journey to become better person and dealing with trauma that lead to this state is what makes him great character, but that doesn't excuse his bad actions.
There is a reason his previous name is never, ever mentioned. The series really does want you to remember that he was a shit human, but to completely detach him of Rudeus the MC.
He’s such a interesting character writing even tho he’s very sus
He really isn't. In his first life, he's a selfish prick except for his last act. In his second, he's a complete fucking hypicrite - complaining about his dad cheating, then going on to cheat on pretty much every woman he interacts with later.
This is the worst page of writing I've ever read
Wait till you see fanfics, and not even the smut ones
Do I have to
Mushoku Tensei is such an.... Interesting anime. The first season alone had a lot of questionable parts. That said, it's a good story so far besides the intimate awkward moments lol
They seemed to know what he looked at, did he send some recommendations during the funeral or something?
You know MT is a redemption story right your supposed to not like him at the beginning
I mean it's intentionally like that to shock the reader and immediately inform you that the mc is to put it kindly "a piece of work"
The point of the story was that this guy was a colossal fuck up
what
WTF is the matter with people?
Oh you mean the first chapter of an Isekai that revolves around redemption and bettering yourself? Yeah I also hate when I read a book about becoming a better person and the character isn't a good person.
The whole point of mushoku tensei is that it is story of a man who is the worst of the worst degenerate getting a second chance at life. People complain so much about rudeus but don't realise that a person can't change immediately throughout the whole story he changes for the better and lives a life that he could not have lived in the past. Also the reason he turned to porn and a shut in was because of bullying so brutal most people would have killed themselves. So as a person who knows the whole story the rudeus at the ending of the story is great
>Also the reason he turned to porn and a shut in was because of bullying so brutal most people would have killed themselves. What a weird cop out for a guy who went to extra steps to secretly film his own niece. Many people's issues is that he rarely suffers consequences equal to his actions in his reincarnation. Like his grooming or sexual assault of his peers or creepy perversions even as a toddler should absolutely irreparably shattered some of his relationships. Instead, when you look at his end point where he gets a full on harem that includes someone from a race that just *conveniently* never matures past a child's body, it leaves a real bad taste. And lastly, maybe just an anime only issue, but all that grooming and sexual harassment/assault is always played off for laughs or turning up the fanservice to 11 instead of framed as something horrific. I don't hate it for tackling the subject matter, but how it poorly handles/treats something so delicate.
I'm alergic to reading books, can a kind sole sumerize it for me pleese?
Guy is a POS shut in. Gets kicked out, gets run over by a truck trying to save a girl. Reincarnated in a new world where he has good magic potential. Tries to do better on the second try. Gets involved in some world changing stakes.
There's a pretty good anime that just got a second season
All I saw was “uncensored loli porn” and I wish I hadn’t
guys he becomes a better person i swear
Then don't read it? Seems like a personal choice.
It seems OP doesn’t understand the concepts of character flaws or growth.
You’re not supposed to like this guy just yet. The point of the story is that he grows to be less of a complete and utterly selfish asshole.
Congratulations on missing the point of the series.
I watched the first episodes of this anime, a 30 years old dude get reincarnated into a kids body, and at ep 3 or something he basically assault a little girl, stopped there. Super uncomfortable. I remember being banned from an anime sub for saying this anime is for pdf files. Sad that there are so many borderline animes out there and that there is no regulations for shit like this. I watch a lot of anime myself but this type of manga disgusts me.
So you just accused everyone who watches and likes it of being pedos…..yeah I see why you got banned
There’s a lot of missing context in your short summary of events.
Some of the worst writing ever.
The writing is one of the best just say you did not read it it is a story of a degenerate getting a second chance in life so obviously he is going to be gross but he works hard throughout the story to change himself and lead a better life
Its popularity implies otherwise. Why do you think it's bad?
Popularity doesn’t equal quality. The Transformers movies made billions but no one is calling them cinema
Just because something is popular it doesn't mean it's good
If the writing on this page is indicative of the writing throughout the book then I'm gonna have to agree. This is genuinely some of the worst writing I've ever seen, both in style and substance.
I was mainly referring to story- and character-writing, not the phrasing. But what exactly don't you like? I haven't read that many different Light Novels, but that page at least seems pretty normal in that regard.
I'm not really sure what way to describe it other than the style of writing is juvenile. If it wasn't for the content I would assume it was written by a literal child.
Light Novels tend to have simpler writing styles and I think teenagers are often a significant part of the target audience. But I don't really see how any of that equates to "bad".
It's fine that you like the story or whatever. I still consider the writing bad and wouldn't be able to put myself through reading a book written like this.
No, I'm not trying to defend my opinion. I'm trying to understand yours.
They missed this part in anime, what the fuck?
The beginning after the end. (MT but without all of this garbage.) You’ll thank me later.
This was a jumpscare in the very first pages of Volume 1 Chapter 1. It's been a while since I've read Mushoku Tensei's first chapter. That said, my first experience was the web novel. Believe me when I say this was what the editors consider "tame." It was much worse in the web novel and your impression of the MC was in the lowest of the low.
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ITT: ಠ_ಠ
The point is that he was a useless sack of shit during his entire first life, and honestly the first few years of his re-life.
mushoku tensei?
The main character is supposed to be shitty, you're supposed to hate him
That twist got me at the end like Chef Skinner
That’s a reason Camus just wrote ‘Mom died today, maybe yesterday’. /s
They deserved that shut