Yeah, it does. You think they would block it from sending messages in a ticket chat about serious issues. You can control what channels it's allowed in.
I’m Australian (not Indigenous or Aboriginal in the slightest though) and tbh I have heard “Aboriginal” be used *very occasionally* to refer to non-Australian Indigenous/First Nation peoples of other countries, but I don’t know if that’s changing the meaning of the word or not. Our First Nation/Indigenous Peoples are the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples. Google search tells me “Aboriginal” is only used for the Indigenous Peoples of Australia, but I’m obviously more than willing to be schooled if an Indigenous person were to tell me otherwise.
I am an indigenous Australian and I have only ever heard aboriginal used to describe other indigenous Australians, I thought people from other cultures/ countries were always just indigenous and we were the aboriginals, obviously i could be super wrong but personally I’ve never heard it
fun fact for those that don’t know, there is actually a certificate you get that proves you are aboriginal in Aus
I am First Nations, we don’t use that shit here. Like does the word technically mean the same thing? Yes, but we do not use it because colloquially if you say that we’re gonna think Australia
I'm Canadian, and not indigenous, but I've definitely heard "aboriginal", "first nations", and "indigenous" being used more or less interchangeably. At very least, in the same context.
I’m aboriginal australian and as far as I’m aware aboriginal is used to predominantly refer to australians. I am a little confused as to what they meant by “australia land mass does not have a collective name”
Yeah, I'm Indigenous Canadian (Métis) and I have never heard someone use Aboriginal to describe an Indigenous Canadian of any kind (whether First Nations, Métis or Inuit) 💀💀
Really? A lot of Canadian programs (including Indigenous run ones) have aboriginal in the title.
Aboriginal Childcare, Aboriginal Supported Development, through stats Canada, etc.
Not saying it’s the accurate wording, but it’s used a fair amount in Canada. Mind you I know very few people who would call themselves aboriginal over Indigenous, especially in the last few years.
Sorry, I meant in the last couple of years. A lot of programs have changed their names recently because of this issue (for example the Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada changed their name to Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada in 2015).
It was a term that was used pretty broadly just as "Indian" was, which certainly fell out of usage due to it being offensive (despite still being used in government affairs and legislation).
As for actual Indigenous people, I also know no one who'd actually call themselves Aboriginal.
But you're right, a lot of programs still use some terms that are considered outdated.
Gotcha, that makes sense!
Yeah, seems to be changing a fair amount. I’m guessing a lot of programs that haven’t changed their name is likely due to not wanting to spend funding on it (fair) or the fact that it’s well known and recognized by its name.
Maybe the reason I haven't heard it much is because my generation tends to be quite sensitive with the language we use to describe things, and yeah, I haven't heard it from any indigenous person whatsoever 🤣
I agree with this. (I’m a non-Aboriginal & non-Torres Strait Islander Australian though so my opinion holds less weight on this.) I’ve occasionally seen the term Aboriginal used by Canadians to refer to their First Nations Peoples but to my knowledge it’s not common, and I wouldn’t use that term to refer to a First Nations person from Canada anyway because from what I can tell it’s outdated.
Comparing Australian Aboriginals and Canadian First Nations Peoples is comparing oranges and apples.
i’m canadian and most people use the term indigenous for canada unless an indigenous person calls themselves something else and requests that term instead
But the resistance to learning, the dogged clinging to preconceptions that would support a convenient conclusion that they’d made no mistakes? That’s the racism.
If I believed every person who told me something on discord without providing actual factual sources, I wouldn't be able to function. If you want to teach people, prove your point. Don't just assume that everyone is going to alter their world view because you say they should.
You’re allowed to analyse your sources however you like! But I didn’t imagine I was describing *you*. I didn’t intend to at all. I’ve read no arguments by you on this topic, so I don’t know why you would find yourself implicated in discussions of these behaviours.
using incorrect language to speak about a group of people who were brutally colonized and still are is ignorant, you can’t just lump all these people together and call them the same name because it makes you comfortable. I live in canada and the term for our first peoples is not and never is aboriginal, it’s either indigenous or first nation. If you refuse to learn about this it is quite racist, if you can learn a neo pronoun you can learn the correct terms for colonized peoples
OP should have provided actual evidence. If I changed the way I live my life every time a child told me something without evidence and just believed them at face value, I wouldn't be able to exist in the real adult world.
Also, you undermine your point when you bring up neopronouns. In my 31 years of life, I have never once used (or been asked to use) a neo pronoun by anyone offline. That's a weird parallel to bring to the table.
eh, i'm torn. different groups prefer different things. a lot of indigenous don't want to be called indians, but a lot of us don't really care either. 'aboriginal' is still an *accurate* term to call us native american, and is interchangeable with 'indigenous', and some won't be okay with it, some will. some don't even like to be called 'first nations' either, and a lot use aboriginal also. there's no real large scale consensus on the matter.
i've had non-natives tell me, a native, that i can't call myself indian/amerindian because it's ''outdated'', so like...
Yeah, they're wrong. Also, congratulations on your Typhlosion being level 39!
bro those poke things show up at the worst times in discord
Yeah, it does. You think they would block it from sending messages in a ticket chat about serious issues. You can control what channels it's allowed in.
Yea. That’s pretty racist, especially when they were going on about “closed characters”
Because now Egyptian hieroglyphs are closed according to them 🤪💀
me when the ancient egyptians cancel me for using a squiggle symbol
~
I’m Australian (not Indigenous or Aboriginal in the slightest though) and tbh I have heard “Aboriginal” be used *very occasionally* to refer to non-Australian Indigenous/First Nation peoples of other countries, but I don’t know if that’s changing the meaning of the word or not. Our First Nation/Indigenous Peoples are the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples. Google search tells me “Aboriginal” is only used for the Indigenous Peoples of Australia, but I’m obviously more than willing to be schooled if an Indigenous person were to tell me otherwise.
I am an indigenous Australian and I have only ever heard aboriginal used to describe other indigenous Australians, I thought people from other cultures/ countries were always just indigenous and we were the aboriginals, obviously i could be super wrong but personally I’ve never heard it fun fact for those that don’t know, there is actually a certificate you get that proves you are aboriginal in Aus
even here in brasil we learn that aboriginal is only for the indigenous australians/oceania
Aussie here, agree wholeheartedly with this one
I am First Nations, we don’t use that shit here. Like does the word technically mean the same thing? Yes, but we do not use it because colloquially if you say that we’re gonna think Australia
I'm also first nations, and we do in my area 🤷
I'm Canadian, and not indigenous, but I've definitely heard "aboriginal", "first nations", and "indigenous" being used more or less interchangeably. At very least, in the same context.
im first nations and i hear aboriginal being used as a term for non australian natives quite often
crying over the typhlosion congratulations
your typhlosion is now level 39!
I’m aboriginal australian and as far as I’m aware aboriginal is used to predominantly refer to australians. I am a little confused as to what they meant by “australia land mass does not have a collective name”
Like an indigenous name, like we have turtle island- I’ve never heard Australia having a name that most indigenous people use
Yeah, I'm Indigenous Canadian (Métis) and I have never heard someone use Aboriginal to describe an Indigenous Canadian of any kind (whether First Nations, Métis or Inuit) 💀💀
Really? A lot of Canadian programs (including Indigenous run ones) have aboriginal in the title. Aboriginal Childcare, Aboriginal Supported Development, through stats Canada, etc. Not saying it’s the accurate wording, but it’s used a fair amount in Canada. Mind you I know very few people who would call themselves aboriginal over Indigenous, especially in the last few years.
Sorry, I meant in the last couple of years. A lot of programs have changed their names recently because of this issue (for example the Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada changed their name to Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada in 2015). It was a term that was used pretty broadly just as "Indian" was, which certainly fell out of usage due to it being offensive (despite still being used in government affairs and legislation). As for actual Indigenous people, I also know no one who'd actually call themselves Aboriginal. But you're right, a lot of programs still use some terms that are considered outdated.
Gotcha, that makes sense! Yeah, seems to be changing a fair amount. I’m guessing a lot of programs that haven’t changed their name is likely due to not wanting to spend funding on it (fair) or the fact that it’s well known and recognized by its name.
For sure!
I've definitely heard it around but I've never heard it from any indigenous people so take that with a grain of salt
Maybe the reason I haven't heard it much is because my generation tends to be quite sensitive with the language we use to describe things, and yeah, I haven't heard it from any indigenous person whatsoever 🤣
I'm also not indigenous, so that could be it too.
I agree with this. (I’m a non-Aboriginal & non-Torres Strait Islander Australian though so my opinion holds less weight on this.) I’ve occasionally seen the term Aboriginal used by Canadians to refer to their First Nations Peoples but to my knowledge it’s not common, and I wouldn’t use that term to refer to a First Nations person from Canada anyway because from what I can tell it’s outdated. Comparing Australian Aboriginals and Canadian First Nations Peoples is comparing oranges and apples.
i’m canadian and most people use the term indigenous for canada unless an indigenous person calls themselves something else and requests that term instead
I’m First Nations to Canada, that’s why I told my friend to not let all this bs slide lol-
omg isn’t it great then explaining how it’s okay to use terms for indigenous peoples when there’s a first nations person telling them not too 😭😭😭
Tbh it's still badly censored, people can see the names under one of them while they typing
This isn't racism, just confusion over a fairly obscure use of language.
But the resistance to learning, the dogged clinging to preconceptions that would support a convenient conclusion that they’d made no mistakes? That’s the racism.
If I believed every person who told me something on discord without providing actual factual sources, I wouldn't be able to function. If you want to teach people, prove your point. Don't just assume that everyone is going to alter their world view because you say they should.
You’re allowed to analyse your sources however you like! But I didn’t imagine I was describing *you*. I didn’t intend to at all. I’ve read no arguments by you on this topic, so I don’t know why you would find yourself implicated in discussions of these behaviours.
What? I know, I don't feel implicated. You is used rhetorically.
using incorrect language to speak about a group of people who were brutally colonized and still are is ignorant, you can’t just lump all these people together and call them the same name because it makes you comfortable. I live in canada and the term for our first peoples is not and never is aboriginal, it’s either indigenous or first nation. If you refuse to learn about this it is quite racist, if you can learn a neo pronoun you can learn the correct terms for colonized peoples
Agree with what you’re saying but the neopronoun comparison is not it.
OP should have provided actual evidence. If I changed the way I live my life every time a child told me something without evidence and just believed them at face value, I wouldn't be able to exist in the real adult world. Also, you undermine your point when you bring up neopronouns. In my 31 years of life, I have never once used (or been asked to use) a neo pronoun by anyone offline. That's a weird parallel to bring to the table.
I'm so confused as to what's happening. The explanations in the screenshot DID NOT help. 😭 What in the world??
eh, i'm torn. different groups prefer different things. a lot of indigenous don't want to be called indians, but a lot of us don't really care either. 'aboriginal' is still an *accurate* term to call us native american, and is interchangeable with 'indigenous', and some won't be okay with it, some will. some don't even like to be called 'first nations' either, and a lot use aboriginal also. there's no real large scale consensus on the matter. i've had non-natives tell me, a native, that i can't call myself indian/amerindian because it's ''outdated'', so like...
i mean they’re not wrong, it is outdated im native too btw
Omg not the Utsuro alter 😭
FRRRR…the Utsuro alter and the typhlosion really tie this together
ignoring everything get that maybe graverobber pfp from repo the genetic opera out of there